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Sikeliot
11-17-2016, 11:55 PM
Despite Cretans being lightest of the three, they have the least North Euro affinity, along with some (but not all) Sicilians.

I put together a lot of results to showcase this. Genetics in this case do not match phenotype. Cyclades and other Aegean (Euboea, Samos, etc) and even Chios and Dodecanese have more North Euro than Crete or Sicily.

Chios:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.29
2 Atlantic_Med 23.67
3 North_European 16.55
4 Southwest_Asian 12.12
5 Gedrosia 7.77
6 Northwest_African 1.45
7 Siberian 0.87
8 Sub_Saharan 0.29


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.72
2 Atlantic_Med 23.7
3 North_European 13.8
4 Southwest_Asian 11.69
5 Gedrosia 9.55
6 Northwest_African 2.87
7 East_African 0.43
8 Southeast_Asian 0.23


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.27
2 Atlantic_Med 23.34
3 North_European 13.97
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Gedrosia 7.04
6 Northwest_African 1.36


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38
2 Atlantic_Med 26.19
3 North_European 12.67
4 Southwest_Asian 12.25
5 Gedrosia 7.24
6 Northwest_African 2.89
7 Southeast_Asian 0.75


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.57
2 Atlantic_Med 27.05
3 North_European 15.17
4 Southwest_Asian 10.13
5 Gedrosia 5.86
6 Northwest_African 2.25
7 Siberian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.43


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.37
2 Atlantic_Med 24.15
3 North_European 13.92
4 Southwest_Asian 11.33
5 Gedrosia 9.24
6 Northwest_African 2.15
7 Siberian 0.88
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 East_African 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.03


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.33
2 Atlantic_Med 25.45
3 Southwest_Asian 13.5
4 North_European 12.77
5 Gedrosia 9.15
6 Northwest_African 2.79
7 Siberian 0.71
8 Sub_Saharan 0.14
9 East_Asian 0.1
10 East_African 0.07


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.32
2 Atlantic_Med 24.67
3 Southwest_Asian 13.39
4 North_European 11.86
5 Gedrosia 8.58
6 Northwest_African 3.84
7 Siberian 0.34



Dodecanese:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.31
2 Atlantic_Med 24.82
3 North_European 17.86
4 Southwest_Asian 11.21
5 Gedrosia 5.87
6 Northwest_African 1.42
7 South_Asian 1.19
8 East_Asian 0.32


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.25
2 Atlantic_Med 23.73
3 Southwest_Asian 15.06
4 North_European 12.68
5 Gedrosia 7.62
6 Northwest_African 2.3
7 South_Asian 1.01
8 East_Asian 0.34


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.37
2 Atlantic_Med 24.15
3 North_European 13.92
4 Southwest_Asian 11.33
5 Gedrosia 9.24
6 Northwest_African 2.15
7 Siberian 0.88
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 East_African 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.03


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.46
2 Atlantic_Med 23.13
3 Southwest_Asian 12.71
4 North_European 11.56
5 Gedrosia 6.8
6 Northwest_African 3.57
7 South_Asian 1.64
8 Southeast_Asian 0.14


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.47
2 Atlantic_Med 24.84
3 Southwest_Asian 12.31
4 North_European 9.45
5 Gedrosia 8.86
6 Northwest_African 3.08


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.37
2 Atlantic_Med 24.5
3 North_European 15.07
4 Southwest_Asian 13.18
5 Gedrosia 6.71
6 Southeast_Asian 1.04
7 Northwest_African 0.8
8 South_Asian 0.25
9 East_African 0.08



Cyclades:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.03
2 Atlantic_Med 25.27
3 North_European 17.3
4 Southwest_Asian 11.82
5 Gedrosia 7.83
6 Northwest_African 2.34
7 Sub_Saharan 0.28
8 Southeast_Asian 0.14



# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.11
2 Atlantic_Med 22.73
3 North_European 21.54
4 Southwest_Asian 11.22
5 Gedrosia 7.62
6 Northwest_African 1.79
7 South_Asian 0.58
8 East_Asian 0.41


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.29
2 Atlantic_Med 22.28
3 North_European 16.33
4 Southwest_Asian 11.94
5 Gedrosia 7.44
6 Northwest_African 2.35
7 Southeast_Asian 1.12
8 South_Asian 0.17
9 East_African 0.07


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.64
2 Atlantic_Med 22.29
3 North_European 16.32
4 Southwest_Asian 12.1
5 Gedrosia 7.34
6 Northwest_African 2.08
7 Southeast_Asian 1.01
8 South_Asian 0.15
9 East_African 0.07


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.27
2 Atlantic_Med 23.06
3 North_European 20.1
4 Southwest_Asian 11.15
5 Gedrosia 8.44
6 Northwest_African 0.41
7 East_African 0.25
8 Southeast_Asian 0.19
9 South_Asian 0.1
10 East_Asian 0.04



Other Aegean:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.99
2 Atlantic_Med 30.33
3 North_European 16.5
4 Southwest_Asian 10.09
5 Gedrosia 4.6
6 Northwest_African 2.27
7 South_Asian 0.39
8 Southeast_Asian 0.33
9 Siberian 0.28
10 East_African 0.22


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.89
2 Atlantic_Med 29.08
3 North_European 22.56
4 Southwest_Asian 9.58
5 Gedrosia 3.7
6 South_Asian 1.02
7 Northwest_African 0.79
8 Siberian 0.24
9 East_African 0.14
10 Sub_Saharan 0.01


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.65
2 Atlantic_Med 28.33
3 North_European 22.25
4 Southwest_Asian 10.1
5 Gedrosia 4.76
6 Northwest_African 2.34
7 East_Asian 0.51
8 Siberian 0.05
9 South_Asian 0.01


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.56
2 Atlantic_Med 25.69
3 North_European 13.76
4 Southwest_Asian 12.76
5 Gedrosia 8.25
6 Northwest_African 1.49
7 Siberian 0.38
8 Southeast_Asian 0.09
9 East_African 0.02



Cretans:


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.65
2 Atlantic_Med 23.07
3 North_European 13.9
4 Southwest_Asian 12.3
5 Gedrosia 9.32
6 Northwest_African 2.67
7 East_African 0.09


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.01
2 Atlantic_Med 23.78
3 Southwest_Asian 12.53
4 North_European 12.38
5 Gedrosia 10.21
6 Northwest_African 1.76
7 East_Asian 0.9
8 East_African 0.43


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.56
2 Atlantic_Med 23.31
3 Southwest_Asian 13.61
4 North_European 10.34
5 Gedrosia 9.33
6 Northwest_African 2.82
7 Siberian 0.03



# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39
2 Atlantic_Med 21.93
3 Southwest_Asian 16.02
4 North_European 12.93
5 Gedrosia 6.19
6 Northwest_African 2.96
7 East_African 0.38
8 Siberian 0.18
9 Sub_Saharan 0.15
10 South_Asian 0.13
11 East_Asian 0.12


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.31
2 Atlantic_Med 23.58
3 North_European 14.06
4 Southwest_Asian 12.08
5 Gedrosia 8.21
6 Northwest_African 2.63
7 Siberian 0.64
8 South_Asian 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.12
10 East_Asian 0.01



Sicilians:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.23
2 Atlantic_Med 26.13
3 Southwest_Asian 12.13
4 North_European 9.76
5 Northwest_African 6.07
6 Gedrosia 5.13
7 East_African 1.37
8 East_Asian 0.16
9 Sub_Saharan 0.02


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.8
2 Atlantic_Med 25.7
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 North_European 12.29
5 Gedrosia 8.21
6 Northwest_African 5.2
7 Sub_Saharan 1.36
8 East_African 0.45


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.75
2 Atlantic_Med 28.19
3 North_European 12.38
4 Southwest_Asian 11.82
5 Northwest_African 4.52
6 Gedrosia 2.58
7 Sub_Saharan 0.56
8 Southeast_Asian 0.1
9 East_Asian 0.07
10 South_Asian 0.03



# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.87
2 Atlantic_Med 27.26
3 Southwest_Asian 13.83
4 North_European 11.06
5 Gedrosia 4.17
6 Northwest_African 4.08
7 Sub_Saharan 1.34
8 East_Asian 0.38


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.06
2 Atlantic_Med 26.32
3 Southwest_Asian 12.36
4 North_European 10.89
5 Gedrosia 8.48
6 Northwest_African 4.55
7 East_African 0.95
8 East_Asian 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.02


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.3
2 Atlantic_Med 30.38
3 Southwest_Asian 10.91
4 North_European 7.59
5 Gedrosia 5.5
6 Northwest_African 4.03
7 East_African 0.97
8 Siberian 0.95
9 Sub_Saharan 0.35


Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.61
2 Atlantic_Med 25.72
3 Southwest_Asian 14.32
4 North_European 11.78
5 Gedrosia 5.41
6 Northwest_African 2.99
7 South_Asian 0.78
8 East_African 0.69
9 Sub_Saharan 0.37
10 Southeast_Asian 0.33


Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.2
2 Atlantic_Med 24.77
3 Southwest_Asian 16.27
4 North_European 12.69
5 Gedrosia 7.12
6 Northwest_African 4.16
7 South_Asian 1.05
8 East_African 0.62
9 Sub_Saharan 0.12


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.02
2 Atlantic_Med 28.62
3 Southwest_Asian 12.72
4 North_European 10.89
5 Gedrosia 6.84
6 Northwest_African 4.52
7 East_African 0.81
8 Sub_Saharan 0.75
9 East_Asian 0.55
10 South_Asian 0.18
11 Siberian 0.09


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.27
2 Atlantic_Med 26.54
3 North_European 12.8
4 Southwest_Asian 12.5
5 Gedrosia 6.73
6 Northwest_African 5.36
7 East_African 1.41
8 Sub_Saharan 0.66
9 Southeast_Asian 0.62
10 East_Asian 0.11


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.56
2 Atlantic_Med 27.1
3 Southwest_Asian 12.88
4 North_European 12.52
5 Gedrosia 6.82
6 Northwest_African 4.68
7 East_African 1.82
8 East_Asian 0.36
9 Siberian 0.2
10 Sub_Saharan 0.08


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 29.05
3 North_European 13.1
4 Southwest_Asian 12.63
5 Gedrosia 6.3
6 Northwest_African 4.6
7 Sub_Saharan 0.81
8 East_Asian 0.36
9 East_African 0.21


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.46
2 Atlantic_Med 27.42
3 North_European 15.52
4 Southwest_Asian 11.87
5 Gedrosia 6.6
6 Northwest_African 5.85
7 East_African 1.59
8 Sub_Saharan 0.55
9 East_Asian 0.12


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.01
2 Atlantic_Med 26.07
3 Southwest_Asian 11.69
4 North_European 10.92
5 Northwest_African 4.76
6 Gedrosia 4.56
7 Sub_Saharan 0.64
8 East_Asian 0.49
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_African 0.36
11 South_Asian 0.09



AVERAGES:

Chios --
N. Euro: 13.83
SW Asian: 12.17

Dodecanese --
N. Euro: 13.42
SW Asian: 12.63

Cyclades --
N. Euro: 18.31
SW Asian: 11.64

Other Aegean --
N. Euro: 18.76
SW Asian: 10.63


Crete --
N. Euro: 12.72
SW Asian: 13.30

Sicily --
N. Euro: 11.96
SW Asian: 12.61

Voskos
11-18-2016, 09:35 PM
...

where's your first cretan from?

Sikeliot
11-18-2016, 09:35 PM
where's your first cretan from?

Chania.

Sikeliot
11-18-2016, 09:47 PM
...


My impression is OVERALL, Cretans have less North Euro affinity than the other islands, and Sicilians even less than Crete. In terms of SW Asian, Sicily - Crete - Dodecanese are equal and the other islands lower.

Voskos
11-18-2016, 09:50 PM
North Aegean also has very high Atlantomed affinity.

Sikeliot
11-18-2016, 09:51 PM
North Aegean also has very high Atlantomed affinity.

None of the islands are exactly like Sicily. They have lower North Euro than anyone, North Aegean levels of Atlanto-Med, and Cretan/Dodecanese levels of SW Asian plus a North African element, and in some, a small reduction in Caucasus affinity.

Ylla
11-18-2016, 09:56 PM
Can I pass?

(sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.23
2 Atlantic_Med 29.31
3 North_European 23.69
4 Southwest_Asian 8.64
5 Gedrosia 3.45
6 Northwest_African 1.33
7 East_Asian 0.18
8 Southeast_Asian 0.09
9 Siberian 0.08

Sikeliot
11-18-2016, 09:56 PM
To me it is clear that Cyclades and some North Aegean people should be closer to the Greek mainland and Balkans genetically, and even some Dodecanese are shifted that way.