What is more common: Swedes who look Spanish or Syrians who look Yemeni?

[Tooting Carmen]

Imo the overlap (or lack thereof) is comparable in both pairings. What do you think?

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[crazyladybutterfly]

if you said saudi i would have said the second... but yemeni people show too much influence from horn of africa

[Dandelion]

Odd poll. I'd say the first. Swedes who look Spanish. A minority of ethnic Swedes can be fairly darkish despite being Northern European.

[Tooting Carmen]

Odd poll. I'd say the first. Swedes who look Spanish. A minority of ethnic Swedes can be fairly darkish despite being Northern European.

Any examples?

[Tooting Carmen]

if you said saudi i would have said the second...

Too obvious (except for some OWDers).

[Dandelion]

Any examples?

Don't have any. I know that dark-haired, brown-eyed Swedes exist as do blue-eyed Spaniards. Yemenis I imagine to be more different from Syrians, who look more Levantine-like.

[Tooting Carmen]

Don't have any. I know that dark-haired, brown-eyed Swedes exist as do blue-eyed Spaniards. Yemenis I imagine to be more different from Syrians, who look more Levantine-like.

Yes, Syrians and Yemenis usually look very different indeed. However, re Swedes and Spaniards, they mainly differ not just in pigmentation but in features too. Blondish Spaniards still usually look like depigmented Meds, while brunette Swedes usually pass no further south than Austria. Here are some Spanish footballers to demonstrate what I mean:

Ignacio Camacho
http://www.sefutbol.com/sites/default/files/f/g/camacho-l276_063_0.jpg

Iker Muniain
http://www.miathletic.com/media/wiki/6/4/9/3/3/b_20120124222818_iker_muniain_iker_muniain.jpg

Adrian San Miguel del Castillo
http://www.bdfutbol.com/i/j/400141.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Yes, Syrians and Yemenis usually look very different indeed. However, re Swedes and Spaniards, they mainly differ not just in pigmentation but in features too. Blondish Spaniards still usually look like depigmented Meds, while brunette Swedes usually pass no further south than Austria. Here are some Spanish footballers to demonstrate what I mean:

Ignacio Camacho
http://www.sefutbol.com/sites/default/files/f/g/camacho-l276_063_0.jpg

Iker Muniain
http://www.miathletic.com/media/wiki/6/4/9/3/3/b_20120124222818_iker_muniain_iker_muniain.jpg

Adrian San Miguel del Castillo
http://www.bdfutbol.com/i/j/400141.jpg



They look more British than Swedish.

[Tooting Carmen]

They look more British than Swedish.

They don't really look Northern European (British or otherwise) at all, that's the point. The eyes and facial shape scream Spanish.

[bozkur]

Syrians who look Yemeni.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[alnortedelsur]

Odd poll. I'd say the first. Swedes who look Spanish. A minority of ethnic Swedes can be fairly darkish despite being Northern European.

And many Swedes with fair complexion (fair but not too pale skin, dark blonde hair, and brown OR light eyes) could pass at least like light Spaniards, as long as they have soft features (not too much square like features), not necessarily only the darkest Swedes would pass in Spain.

[alnortedelsur]

Regarding the thread question, there is a considerable difference in average pigmentation and features between Swedes and Spaniards, but Yemenis are much more different from Syrians that Spaniards from Swedes. Hellooo!!... :picard1:

[Tooting Carmen]

Regarding the thread question, there is a considerable difference in average pigmentation and features between Swedes and Spaniards, but Yemenis are much more different from Syrians that Spaniards from Swedes. Hellooo!!... :picard1:

Syrians are mostly rather different from Yemenis, but quite a few Levantines do look like Gulf Arabs, contrary to what some argue here. As I said in the OP, the overlap (or lack, thereof) is probably comparable in both pairings.

[alnortedelsur]

Syrians are mostly rather different from Yemenis, but quite a few Levantines do look like Gulf Arabs, contrary to what some argue here. As I said in the OP, the overlap (or lack, thereof) is probably comparable in both pairings.

I still think there are way more Swedes who could pass in Spain (regardless of pigmentation, except for the most extremely Nordic ones) as long as they have soft features, than Levantines with Gulf Arab looks.

[LP0956]

Swedishes who look Spanish

http://data.whicdn.com/images/124436437/large.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

I still think there are way more Swedes who could pass in Spain (regardless of pigmentation, except for the most extremely Nordic ones) as long as they have soft features, than Levantines with Gulf Arab looks.

There is probably more of a difference between average Syrians and Yemenis than between average Swedes and Spaniards, but at the same time there are almost certainly more Syrians who look wholesale Gulf Arab than there are Swedes who look wholesale Euro-Mediterranean, so therefore it is all cancelled out. (Remember that passing and looking typical are not the same).

[Tooting Carmen]

Swedishes who look Spanish

http://data.whicdn.com/images/124436437/large.jpg

No trolling and silliness please.

[alnortedelsur]

No trolling and silliness please.

nahh... nobody takes his trolling seriously. He is very bad trolling.

[alnortedelsur]

There is probably more of a difference between average Syrians and Yemenis than between average Swedes and Spaniards, but at the same time there are almost certainly more Syrians who look wholesale Gulf Arab than there are Swedes who look wholesale Euro-Mediterranean, so therefore it is all cancelled out. (Remember that passing and looking typical are not the same).

Could you provide examples (if possible with pictures) of Swedish who could look "wholesale Spanish" to know better what you talk about??

Even extremely Nordic Swedes could pass as extremely atypical Nordic Spaniards.

When I talk about "passing", I don't include "passing as extremely atypical" but passing as reasonably common (even if not exactly as very average), and many Swedes with fair complexion (not necessarily the darkest ones) could pass in Spain as reasonably common in there (as I said, as long as they are not extremely pale, and have relatively soft features).

[Tooting Carmen]

Could you provide examples (if possible with pictures) of Swedish who could look "wholesale Spanish" to know better what you talk about??

Even extremely Nordic Swedes could pass as extremely atypical Nordic Spaniards.

When I talk about "passing", I don't include "passing as extremely atypical" but passing as reasonably common (even if not exactly as very average), and many Swedes with fair complexion (not necessarily the darkest ones) could pass in Spain as reasonably common in there (as I said, as long as they are not extremely pale, and have relatively soft features).

The difference in facial features is arguably even stronger and more important than the difference in pigmentation: blondish Spaniards, such as the footballers I posted near the beginning of this thread, usually look like depigmented Mediterraneans rather than genuinely Germanic/Nordic; conversely, brunette Swedes at most blend in well in France and Central Europe. Anyway, here is the Swedish Parliament. http://www.riksdagen.se/en/members-and-parties/
Out of the native Swedish MPs, only these would be reasonably common for Spain imo:
https://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/45445eb9-01dc-4786-990e-c1864d4f7c50_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7e408079-a5cd-432a-a30e-fd61fd15c65a_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/ecbe80be-fc66-48ce-81fd-14d6fa38aa4c_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/66c0dc01-c64a-4d95-8d22-41dffc64795c_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/d7c31fc6-83e4-11d4-ae60-0050040c9b55_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/d7c32504-83e4-11d4-ae60-0050040c9b55_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/45bd9e8b-22f0-4cb7-9cfe-b40847e9715f_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/9ba9d931-c9c0-4052-8c1b-9765f09cad69_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/26eb9dcc-8638-445e-8356-ba8fdeb6d742_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/6cca7c48-b127-4d65-8052-ac3588a50dbd_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7826c819-d0da-4e4a-a16b-ffa3d8e9b155_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7365e865-e602-44fb-adf2-e58cf9c0a6f9_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/db2ca6ff-5620-4ece-8d31-97777f2efb48_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/acbfe365-7ddb-44db-b076-105b2b9b689a_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/df8c5ae3-43e8-4d8a-bf64-67b9a78fef66_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/ee32e119-fdfe-4e00-b136-b2102d79b2a6_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/aa3965b9-7a33-4cb0-bee2-998e2b6a30bb_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/63b23510-15af-4cc9-b54a-3d8b01c212d0_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/b58dac92-0bb0-4fe3-a052-9049b9a99959_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/3139e412-6409-4376-9e02-674a4e4a2de9_160.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

The difference in facial features is arguably even stronger and more important than the difference in pigmentation: blondish Spaniards, such as the footballers I posted near the beginning of this thread, usually look like depigmented Mediterraneans rather than genuinely Germanic/Nordic; conversely, brunette Swedes at most blend in well in France and Central Europe. Anyway, here is the Swedish Parliament. http://www.riksdagen.se/en/members-and-parties/
Out of the native Swedish MPs, only these would be reasonably common for Spain imo:
https://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/45445eb9-01dc-4786-990e-c1864d4f7c50_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7e408079-a5cd-432a-a30e-fd61fd15c65a_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/ecbe80be-fc66-48ce-81fd-14d6fa38aa4c_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/66c0dc01-c64a-4d95-8d22-41dffc64795c_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/d7c31fc6-83e4-11d4-ae60-0050040c9b55_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/d7c32504-83e4-11d4-ae60-0050040c9b55_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/45bd9e8b-22f0-4cb7-9cfe-b40847e9715f_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/9ba9d931-c9c0-4052-8c1b-9765f09cad69_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/26eb9dcc-8638-445e-8356-ba8fdeb6d742_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/6cca7c48-b127-4d65-8052-ac3588a50dbd_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7826c819-d0da-4e4a-a16b-ffa3d8e9b155_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/7365e865-e602-44fb-adf2-e58cf9c0a6f9_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/db2ca6ff-5620-4ece-8d31-97777f2efb48_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/acbfe365-7ddb-44db-b076-105b2b9b689a_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/df8c5ae3-43e8-4d8a-bf64-67b9a78fef66_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/ee32e119-fdfe-4e00-b136-b2102d79b2a6_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/aa3965b9-7a33-4cb0-bee2-998e2b6a30bb_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/63b23510-15af-4cc9-b54a-3d8b01c212d0_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/b58dac92-0bb0-4fe3-a052-9049b9a99959_160.jpghttps://data.riksdagen.se/filarkiv/bilder/ledamot/3139e412-6409-4376-9e02-674a4e4a2de9_160.jpg

Well, that's precisely what I talk about. People like that.

Many of them have a fair complexion (not too dark but not too pale either) and could reasonably pass in Spain. So, no only the darkest Swedes could pass, but also people like them. That's what I mean.

PS: I don't know if I am wrong, or if it is an effect of bad lighting, or what, but I think the woman with the red shirt, and the glasses, in the very left of the fourth row, doesn't look full European but mixed with something (could be even mixed with black?) and doesn't look fully ethnic Swedish, and I don't think she could pass as fully ethnic Spaniard either. She doesn't even look full European, lol.

[Hadouken]

how are people of TA supposed to know the variation of yemeni people ? most of us can just assume things

besides of this I somehow doubt that you are genuinely interested in this . very odd questions imo lol

[Leopard]

Swedes who look like cucks are the most common.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well, that's precisely what I talk about. People like that.

Many of them have a fair complexion (not too dark but not too pale either) and could reasonably pass in Spain. So, no only the darkest Swedes could pass, but also people like them. That's what I mean.

PS: I don't know if I am wrong, or if it is an effect of bad lighting, or what, but I think the woman with the red shirt, and the glasses, in the very left of the fourth row, doesn't look full European but mixed with something (could be even mixed with black?) and doesn't look fully ethnic Swedish, and I don't think she could pass as fully ethnic Spaniard either. She doesn't even look full European, lol.

Yes OK, but while I don't deny that some Swedes can pass in Spain to varying degrees, I doubt most would, either because they have a type of platinum blonde hair that is really rare in Spain (although some isolated examples exist, such as Kiko Vega) or more crucially because the facial features are very different (regardless of colouring).

[Profileid]

Wow.
I am not sure how to even answer this.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes OK, but while I don't deny that some Swedes can pass in Spain to varying degrees, I doubt most would, either because they have a type of platinum blonde hair that is really rare in Spain (although some isolated examples exist, such as Kiko Vega) or more crucially because the facial features are very different (regardless of colouring).

I never implied that the majority of Swedes would pass in Spain (JESUS CHRIST!!), but a significant number of them would reasonably pass. And I don't think most Swedes are extremely pale, and extremely Nordic platinum blondes.

The thread question is about more Swedes passing as Spaniards or more Lebanese passing as Yemenis, and that's the only thing that I am comparing, so please stop raving and putting on my mouth things that I never said.

I don't know if you realize that I am not only talking about pigmentation, but also about features. And even if their features are different, generally speaking, from Spaniards, those Swedes with relatively soft features could reasonably pass in Spain, regardless of their pigmentation (unless that they are extremely pale and platinum blonde).

[Tooting Carmen]

I never implied that the majority of Swedes would pass in Spain (JESUS CHRIST!!), but a significant number of them would reasonably pass. And I don't think most Swedes are extremely pale, and extremely Nordic platinum blondes.

The thread question is about more Swedes passing as Spaniards or more Lebanese passing as Yemenis, and that's the only thing that I am comparing, so please stop raving and putting on my mouth things that I never said.

I don't know if you realize that I am not only talking about pigmentation, but also about features. And even if their features are different, generally speaking, from Spaniards, those Swedes with relatively soft features could reasonably pass in Spain, regardless of their pigmentation (unless that they are extremely pale and platinum blonde).

OK I agree with the above. However, what I will say is this: the blondest 25% or so of Swedes have very few counterparts in Spain, and the darkest 25% or so of Spaniards have even fewer counterparts in Sweden, and this is before facial features are taken into account. And btw, I said Syrians and not Lebanese - the two groups are generally very similar, although there are some pure Bedouins in the far south of Syria which I am not aware of in Lebanon.

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[Odin]

Syrians who look Yemeni.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Tooting Carmen]

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[brennus dux gallorum]

Syrians who look Yemeni

[Acubens]

Syrians who look Yemeni. Dumb thread overall.

[Tooting Carmen]

Syrians who look Yemeni. Dumb thread overall.

I'd still argue that the difference between the Levant and Southern Arabia is as dramatic as that between Scandinavia and Mediterranean Europe.

[Acubens]

I'd still argue that the difference between the Levant and Southern Arabia is as dramatic as that between Scandinavia and Mediterranean Europe.

Nah, MENAs have more internal overlap than they would like to admit. Virtually all Yemenis can fit as atypical Syrians and vice versa. The same isn't true for Spain and Sweden.
Less than 10% of Swedes would pass in Spain and less than 5% of Spaniards would pass in Sweden.

[brennus dux gallorum]

I'd still argue that the difference between the Levant and Southern Arabia is as dramatic as that between Scandinavia and Mediterranean Europe.

I don't think so

Many people mistakenly think this way because of the SSA slave originated Saudis, but original Saudis are not that different from the Levant, maybe except of skin color, which makes sense, as they live in different parallels

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[CommonSense]

Syrians have many Orientalid types which could pass in Yemen. Scandinavian Meds are very few in number.