Mountain ethnicities in the world

[Root]

http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/physical_world_map_1600px.jpg



mountain ethnic groups that I know



North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish
Kurds



if you know more you can expand this list

[brennus dux gallorum]

http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/physical_world_map_1600px.jpg



mountain ethnic groups that I know



North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish



if you know more you can expand this list

the highest mountain in scotland is lower than an average near athens.

[MellowD]

And where are the swamp germans aka dutch people?

[Root]

And where are the swamp germans aka dutch people?



Dutch people are not mountaineers, so why should we include them in here?

[MellowD]

Dutch people are not mountaineers, so why should we include them in here?

lol, I misunderstood your thread, i thought you are talking about tall ethnicities... my bad.

[Root]

the highest mountain in scotland is lower than an average near athens.




hills? :lol:

[Root]

lol, I misunderstood your thread, i thought you are talking about tall ethnicities... my bad.




it's okay

[brennus dux gallorum]

hills? :lol:

the famous scottish hills:p

[Root]

Scotland


http://www.educatouring.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/o-SCOTLAND-facebook1.jpg



is there any member from Scotland in the forums?

[Dandelion]

lol, I misunderstood your thread, i thought you are talking about tall ethnicities... my bad.

Haha. Good you clarified it. The highest 'mountain' (hill) in the Netherlands is the Vaalserberg (322 m).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Ac_vaalserberg.JPG

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Coyas
http://diariomovil.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ritual-Pachamama.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee176/normayedu/2229255828_a922fec3b6.jpg
http://photos.travellerspoint.com/173796/large_Viaducto_l..res__3_.jpg

Aymaras
http://nuevomundo.revues.org/optika/11/img/imgaymaras/aymara05.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5264/5731718933_9cbefd2cdd_z.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ed/eb/46/edeb460c5c7306d5f6664311436fb65c.jpg

Tarahumaras
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oPcNo91-pLY/TxYxQOmxBQI/AAAAAAAABEU/YZlI5q8OYiA/s1600/tarahumaras.jpg
http://www.ehui.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tarahumaras-colecta001.jpg?v=1337288872869
http://www.edgeimaging.org/hostalestarahumaras.com/imagenes-tarahumaras/tarahumaras3.jpg

[GoneWithTheWind]

Gheg Highlanders/North Albanian Malsors

[GoneWithTheWind]

Those Montenigrin mountain tribes were originally either Vlach or Albanian speakers

[Newman]

There are also the ghaygs

[Newman]

Haha. Good you clarified it. The highest 'mountain' (hill) in the Netherlands is the Vaalserberg (322 m).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Ac_vaalserberg.JPG

Woow, that's more than twice higher than where I'm from, it's god damn high! Don't you lack oxygen up there?

[Styrian Mujo]

Haha. Good you clarified it. The highest 'mountain' (hill) in the Netherlands is the Vaalserberg (322 m).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Ac_vaalserberg.JPG
I was in netherlands this spetember. I literally got deppresed due to how flat and 'artifical' the country is.

[Danaan]

I'm 50% highlander, 50% sea pirate.

[Newman]

I'm 50% highlander, 50% sea pirate.

You should find some place next to a lake, in the mountains, and turn into a highlander pirate.

[Profileid]

My dad's side of the family comes from West Virginia. Can confirm they definitely have their own culture.

[Ülev]

Aromanians? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/South-Balkan-Romance-languages.png


https://youtu.be/ZYODJLc76bM

[cosmoo]

Highlander pride world wide.
http://cdn.tf.rs/2015/05/08/Kralj-Nikola-2.jpg

[cosmoo]

Those Montenigrin mountain tribes were originally either Vlach or Albanian speakers

Lies, lies and more lies.

[brennus dux gallorum]

My dad's side of the family comes from West Virginia. Can confirm they definitely have their own culture.

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/villagestreetwear/confederate-the-south-will-rise-again-flag-3-x-5-ft-4.jpg

[Profileid]

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/villagestreetwear/confederate-the-south-will-rise-again-flag-3-x-5-ft-4.jpg

West Virginia fought for the Union.

[Dandelion]

Woow, that's more than twice higher than where I'm from, it's god damn high! Don't you lack oxygen up there?

It's in Limburg. Hadn't General Dibbets annexed it during the Belgian Revolution, the highest point of the Netherlands would be far lower (Signaal Imbosch, 110 m in Gelderland).

Not saying the Belgian Revolution was a good thing for us Dutch-speakers, but it's known Limburgers generally were more pro-Belgian over us Antwerpians. Limburgians also sided with the Spaniards during the Eighty Years' War centuries earlier, together with Walloons after all, and memories of William the Silent and his Dutch rebel army are far less positive in Limburgian lands because of the mass plundering that took place due to shortage of food and supplies.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree allegiance-wise. ;)

[brennus dux gallorum]

West Virginia fought for the Union.

sorry, i missed the west

[Newman]

It's in Limburg. Hadn't General Dibbets annex it during the Belgian Revolution, the highest point of the Netherlands would be far lower (Signaal Imbosch, 110 m in Gelderland).

Not saying the Belgian Revolution was a good thing for us Dutch-speakers, but it's known Limburgers generally were more pro-Belgian over as Antwerpians. Limburgians also sided with the Spaniards during the Eighty Years' War centuries earlier, together with Walloons after all, and memories of William the Silent and his Dutch rebel army are far less positive in Limburgian lands because of his scorched earth tactics. :p

After all, the belgian revolution hasn't been a good thing for anyone, except maybe for the royal family, the catholic clergy and some random industrialists who used to need free trade with France.

[Linebacker]

Tallest peaks in the Balkan are in Bulgaria.Unlike the western Balkans who are predominantly mountainous we have a great perfect 50/50 split between mountain and flatland geography.

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-bulgaria-shaded-relief-map-with-major-urban-areas-surrounding-territory-greyed-out-colored-16999762.jpg

[Marusya]

My dad's side of the family comes from West Virginia. Can confirm they definitely have their own culture.

I can relate. My mother's family comes from Arkansas. I've visited the Ozark Mountains. My Ukie father says the regional music reminds him slightly of Ukrainian folk music because of the use of the mandolin. My dad plays mandolin, in fact. Here is some folk music from Arkansas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACrwwCKVXxo

[GoneWithTheWind]

Lies, lies and more lies.

Vasojevici and Kuci were both Albanian speakers. Piperi most likely were latin.

There are some more.

[GoneWithTheWind]

Albania, Malsia

http://images.yudu.com/item_files/118780/7db848423/3783411.jpg

[cosmoo]

Vasojevici and Kuci were both Albanian speakers. Piperi most likely were latin.
Vasojevici were not. Kuci are one and only clan with story of Albanian origin (allegedly from Skanderbeg). And we have more than 30 clans...
Whole western and central Montenegro is dominated by clans carrying I2a1b, I1-P109 and N1a, which are definitely not of native Balkan origin. Only easternmost parts of country (they didn't even consider themselves Montenegrin until recently) are native Balkanites patrilineary. That doesn't necessarily mean they are Albanian- Vasojevic haplotype is extremely distant from Albos.
"Everyone is Albo" story is getting quite boring... you are not very different from Serbs in that regard. xD

[GoneWithTheWind]

Vasojevici were not. Kuci are one and only clan with story of Albanian origin (allegedly from Skanderbeg). And we have more than 30 clans...
Whole western and central Montenegro is dominated by clans carrying I2a1b, I1-P109 and N1a, which are definitely not of native Balkan origin. Only easternmost parts of country (they didn't even consider themselves Montenegrin until recently) are native Balkanites patrilineary. That doesn't necessarily mean they are Albanian- Vasojevic haplotype is extremely distant from Albos.
"Everyone is Albo" story is getting quite boring... you are not very different from Serbs in that regard. xD

Im not saying everyone is albo. Youre just putting those words in my mouth.

And you are also denying many things. Of course Kuci were Albanians, they are widespread in Kosovo, Albania etc. And even a minority still speaks Albanian in Montenegro surrounded by Slavic speakers. Kuci tested EV13

Vasojevici some of them also tested Ev13. That doesnt make them automatically Albanian in origin of course

[catgeorge]

During Ottoman occupation half of todays Greek descendants lived in the mountains .. offspring of Klepths, some Vlachs and Sarakatsanoi (the main revolutionary footsoldiers in the 19th century descended from the mountains)

I know for a fact my great grand father descended from these mountains and probably lived something like this.

https://www.ramblersholidays.co.uk/Images/Media/9179.jpg

http://www.saveur.com/sites/saveur.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/import/2010/images/2010-07/131-far-side-of-the-mountain400.jpg

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B454F4/men-wearing-traditional-costume-near-metsovo-pindos-mountains-epirus-B454F4.jpg

[Antimage]

What do you mean by rusyns? Westernmost branch of ukrainian people?
http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/physical_world_map_1600px.jpg



mountain ethnic groups that I know



North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish



if you know more you can expand this list

[user_]

Igorot people, from Luzon Island of Philippine. They also called as Cordillerans.

Actually this were only people in Philippines who don't smile. Everywhere you go in Philippines, on every island, muslims or christians, they are all smiling, they accept you to take picture, talk with them and everything. But Igorot from North Luzon were so much unfriendly, nobody smiling, women started to throw stones at me, when i was trying to picture them. Such a big difference from other Filipinos.
Anyway this rice terraces are amazing, breathtaking.

http://b.pix.ge/b/bmxcv.jpg (http://pix.ge/)
http://b.pix.ge/x/flebv.jpg (http://pix.ge/)
http://a.pix.ge/x/4rg14.jpg (http://pix.ge/)
http://a.pix.ge/j/i330w.jpg (http://pix.ge/)
This is a public transport, that took us to mountain village. Very refreshing :D
http://a.pix.ge/d/2jj47.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

[Nurzat]

you cannot call mountains if you don't have fir/spruce/pine/larch forests.

I come from one of the most forested regions in Europe, at altitude in the middle of the Waldkarpaten, where Rusnaks live :D an exclusively mountain population

[Graham]

the highest mountain in scotland is lower than an average near athens.
Most scots live at the bottom of the valleys or nearer the coasts. Yeah we are very hilly, with small mountains. Not really mountainous like some of the other listed. Not much flat land though.

Lots of hills, lakes, rivers and coast lines. A lack of flat land like England.

[Root]

What do you mean by rusyns? Westernmost branch of ukrainian people?





If I'm not mistaken their other name should be Gutsuls (Гуцулы) or something like that

[Antimage]

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[Root]

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Probably Slovaks who live in Carpathian mountain range but I don't know exactly, maybe it's the Transylvanian population in Romania?

[user_]

you cannot call mountains if you don't have fir/spruce/pine/larch forests.

I come from one of the most forested regions in Europe, at altitude in the middle of the Waldkarpaten, where Rusnaks live :D an exclusively mountain population
Are u from Romania or Ukraine? Both countries have quite low percent of forest covered areas. But Carpathian mountains itself have very beautiful forests.

[Root]

Are u from Romania or Ukraine? Both countries have quite low percent of forest covered areas. But Carpathian mountains itself have very beautiful forests.






green places on the map, Caucasus and Carpathians


http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1479760950/929f1d94/15049158.png



*Took a screen shot of Google Maps

[user_]

green places on the map, Caucasus and Carpathians
Yes and + Alps and Scandinavia, this regions have them most spectacular landscape.

[Laberia]

Yes and + Alps and Scandinavia, this regions have them most spectacular landscape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lur%C3%AB_National_Park
Lurë National Park, also Lura National Park (Albanian: Parku Kombetar i Lurës), is a national park located in the municipality of Dibër in northeastern Albania declared in 1966. The park encompasses 1,280 hectares on the eastern side of the Kunora e Lurës, the highest summit in the Lurë Mountains, which reaches a height of 2,119 m (6,952 ft) above sea level.[1] The park is renowned for its 12 lakes and wildlife that attract visitors year-round.
Lake of the flowers.
http://kma-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/liqeni-luleve.jpg
http://kma-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lura1.jpg

[katniss]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lur%C3%AB_National_Park
Lurë National Park, also Lura National Park (Albanian: Parku Kombetar i Lurës), is a national park located in the municipality of Dibër in northeastern Albania declared in 1966. The park
http://kma-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lura1.jpg

It is a photo of Mount Rainer, USA.
http://www.boomsbeat.com/articles/1584/20140324/mount-rainier-national-park-the-most-glaciated-peak-in-the-contiguous-us.htm

[GoneWithTheWind]

It is a photo of Mount Rainer, USA.
http://www.boomsbeat.com/articles/1584/20140324/mount-rainier-national-park-the-most-glaciated-peak-in-the-contiguous-us.htm

Its not even the same photo

[user_]

Its not even the same photo

Anyway there are no mountains with glacier in Albania, so this picture must be wrong.

[GoneWithTheWind]

Anyway there are no mountains with glacier in Albania, so this picture must be wrong.

It doesnt look like Albania. Too much lowland

Albania basically means mountainous land. Montenegro means black mountain.

Malsia, a historical north Albanian region which means mountain, stretches into Montenegro. Its habitants are called Malsor which means mountain people

[Laberia]

Anyway there are no mountains with glacier in Albania, so this picture must be wrong.

The second photo is wrong. Unfortunately i didn`t verified before posting. Meanwhile the lakes of Lura are glacier.

[katniss]

Its not even the same photo

There are over 20 photos of the Mount Rainer. One of the photos is the same as the photo that laberia posted.
http://www.boomsbeat.com/articles/1584/20140324/mount-rainier-national-park-the-most-glaciated-peak-in-the-contiguous-us.htm

The same photo on other websites:
http://wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/nature/hidden-lake-in-mount-rainier-national-park-washington_21412.htm
http://grandcanyon.free.fr/images/mountains/original/Hidden%20Lake%20in%20Mount%20Rainier%20National%20 Park,%20Washington.html
http://wallpapers-diq.com/wp/42__Hidden_Lake_in_Mount_Rainier_National_Park,_Wa shington.html

It is lake in Mount Rainier National Park, Washington, USA.

[GoneWithTheWind]

There are over 20 photos of the Mount Rainer. One of the photos is the same as the photo that laberia posted.
http://www.boomsbeat.com/articles/1584/20140324/mount-rainier-national-park-the-most-glaciated-peak-in-the-contiguous-us.htm

The same photo on other websites:
http://wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/nature/hidden-lake-in-mount-rainier-national-park-washington_21412.htm
http://grandcanyon.free.fr/images/mountains/original/Hidden%20Lake%20in%20Mount%20Rainier%20National%20 Park,%20Washington.html
http://wallpapers-diq.com/wp/42__Hidden_Lake_in_Mount_Rainier_National_Park,_Wa shington.html

It is lake in Mount Rainier National Park, Washington, USA.

Who cares

[Laberia]

The mountains of South Albania.
Mount Tomor.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Berta,_Berat2.jpg/300px-Berta,_Berat2.jpg
And this is the Peak of Kulmak in Mount Tomor.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/8/88/Tyrbja_e_Kulmakut.jpg
Laberia Region, The Mount of Griba.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/ea/b9/e1eab9e47f7d33602383dca8e38ae12b.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/127634330.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/127634286.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/127634287.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/127634281.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/11/d3/a1/11d3a17035be0aece581bf19cff777fc.jpg

[Arcadefire]

lol at Nepalese not being there even though we live in the highest altitude (or atleast one of them)

[user_]

Mt. Ushba Georgian Matterhorn ))
http://a.pix.ge/c/8bua8.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

Ushguli highest village in Europe.
http://a.pix.ge/a/2k2ly.jpg (http://pix.ge/)

[Sebastianus Rex]

Complete wannabeism on this thread, the most populated areas at high altitudes are located in South and Central America and in Europe by far the country with more cities at a higher elevation is Spain (wich is the 2nd most mountainous country in Europe after Switzerland):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_large_cities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_by_elevation

[GoneWithTheWind]

Complete wannabeism on this thread, the most populated areas at high altitudes are located in South and Central America and in Europe by far the country with more cities at a higher elevation is Spain (wich is the 2nd most mountainous country in Europe after Switzerland):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_large_cities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_by_elevation

But do many people actually live there? I dont see why people would choose to live in mountainous areas unless they were isolated

[Danaan]

Complete wannabeism on this thread, the most populated areas at high altitudes are located in South and Central America and in Europe by far the country with more cities at a higher elevation is Spain (wich is the 2nd most mountainous country in Europe after Switzerland):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_large_cities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_by_elevation

How did you measure that?

[nightrider+]

Complete wannabeism on this thread, the most populated areas at high altitudes are located in South and Central America and in Europe by far the country with more cities at a higher elevation is Spain (wich is the 2nd most mountainous country in Europe after Switzerland):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_large_cities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_by_elevation
Second list is incomplete crap and Spain is not the second most mountainous country, however you judged that.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Tyroleses:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/185/5863/640/Jodler%20Tirol%2011.jpg

[Sebastianus Rex]

But do many people actually live there? I dont see why people would choose to live in mountainous areas unless they were isolated

Read the links. Many of the largest cities in south and central America are at high altitude (La Paz, Quito, Bogota, Mexico City etc), something you don't see in any other part of the World.



How did you measure that?

It is indicated by many sources, most of the Spanish territory (the Meseta central) is an inner plateau at a reasonably high altitude (between 600 and 800mts) comprising some significant mountain ranges.

Second list is incomplete crap and Spain is not the second most mountainous country, however you judged that.

Then provide a better one. The list says clearly - list of European cities over 10,000 inhabitants by elevation:

Over 1,000m
Davos 1,560 m (5,120 ft)
Briancon 1,326 m (4,350 ft)
Ávila 1,132 m (3,714 ft)
Soria 1,063 m (3,488 ft)
Guarda 1,056 m (3,465 ft)
Smoljan 1,050 m (3,440 ft)
Andorra la Vella 1,023 m (3,356 ft)
Sjenica 1,010 m (3,310 ft)
Segovia 1,002 m (3,287 ft)
La Chaux-de-Fonds 1,001 m (3,284 ft)

Above 1000 mts, 3 of the cities are in Spain (Andorra la Vella is bordering Spain and also Guarda in Portugal is close to the Spanish border)

900 to 1,000m
Cuenca 999 m (3,278 ft)
Béjar 953 m (3,127 ft)
Samokov 950 m (3,120 ft)
Burgos 929 m (3,048 ft)
Le Locle 920 m (3,020 ft)
Collado Villalba 917 m (3,009 ft)
Teruel 912 m (2,992 ft)
Guadix 910 m (2,990 ft)
Meßstetten 907 m (2,976 ft)

On this tier 7 out of 9 cities are in Spain.

800 to 900 mts
900m

Korca 890 m (2,920 ft)
Resen 885 m (2,904 ft)
Astorga 868 m (2,848 ft)
Zakopane 838 m (2,749 ft)
Leon 837 m (2,746 ft)
Bruneck 836 m (2,743 ft)
Jaca 820 m (2,690 ft)
Pale 820 m (2,690 ft)
Pontarlier 820 m (2,690 ft)
Gheorgheni 816 m (2,677 ft)
Kislowodsk 810 m (2,660 ft)
Salamanca 802 m (2,631 ft)
Vatra Dornei 800 m (2,600 ft)

On this tier more 4 are in Spain and the list continues being Spain almot always the most represented country by each tier, and most are not small cities but rather important ones (povincial capitals) with relatively high populations, not some touristy ski resorts with no stable population.

And more, apart from Andorra-la-Vella in Andorra (wich is not a real country), the highest capital and major city in Europe is Madrid at 667m.

Now prove you are not just another shitposter. :thumb001:

[GoneWithTheWind]

You can see villages in Albania in the mountains. Ive been there. And also Albanians basically call themselves highlanders (Malsor). Most likely pushed there from Roman occupation and Slavic. Although some have settled in the lowlands since then. Kinda pointless to argue who lives in the highest altitude but I can tell you the Avars of Dagestan live very high. And in Dagestan you can see villages on top of the mountains

Even the Chechens today live in lowland Grozny as they moved there I believe. Originally they were highlanders.

[nightrider+]

Now prove you are not just another shitposter. :thumb001:
I'm afraid the shitposter here is you. I don't need to provide a better list in order to prove this one is incomplete. I just noticed there are no Greek cities in there, cities like for example Kastoria, Kozani, Tripoli that should have been included if the list wasn't incomplete. You can google (and wiki) them and see that I'm right. Who knows how many more are missing from all countries.

[Danaan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_elevation

Switzerland 1,350 m (4,429 ft)
[Turkey 1,132 m (3,714 ft)]
Montenegro 1,086 m (3,563 ft)
Austria 910 m (2,986 ft)
Albania 708 m (2,323 ft)
Spain 660 m (2,165 ft)
[Russia 600 m (1,969 ft)]
Iceland 557 m (1,827 ft)
Italy 538 m (1,765 ft)
Bosnia and Herzegovina 500 m (1,640 ft)
Greece 498 m (1,634 ft)
Slovenia 492 m (1,614 ft)
Bulgaria 472 m (1,549 ft)
Norway 460 m (1,509 ft)
Slovakia 458 m (1,503 ft)
Serbia 442 m (1,450 ft)
Czech Republic 433 m (1,421 ft)
Romania 414 m (1,358 ft)
France 375 m (1,230 ft)
Portugal 372 m (1,220 ft)
Croatia 331 m (1,086 ft)
Sweden 320 m (1,050 ft)
Germany 263 m (863 ft)
Belgium 181 m (594 ft)
Ukraine 175 m (574 ft)
Poland 173 m (568 ft)
Finland 164 m (538 ft)
United Kingdom 162 m (531 ft)
Belarus 160 m (525 ft)
Hungary 143 m (469 ft)
Moldova 139 m (456 ft)
Ireland 118 m (387 ft)
Lithuania 110 m (361 ft)
Cyprus 91 m (299 ft)
Latvia 87 m (285 ft)
Estonia 61 m (200 ft)
Denmark 34 m (112 ft)
Netherlands 30 m (98 ft)

[Dick]

MOUNTAIN ETHNICITIES ARE USUALLY INBREDS LIKE THE APPALACHIANS

[GoneWithTheWind]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_elevation

Switzerland 1,350 m (4,429 ft)
[Turkey 1,132 m (3,714 ft)]
Montenegro 1,086 m (3,563 ft)
Austria 910 m (2,986 ft)
Albania 708 m (2,323 ft)
Spain 660 m (2,165 ft)
[Russia 600 m (1,969 ft)]
Iceland 557 m (1,827 ft)
Italy 538 m (1,765 ft)
Bosnia and Herzegovina 500 m (1,640 ft)
Greece 498 m (1,634 ft)
Slovenia 492 m (1,614 ft)
Bulgaria 472 m (1,549 ft)
Norway 460 m (1,509 ft)
Slovakia 458 m (1,503 ft)
Serbia 442 m (1,450 ft)
Czech Republic 433 m (1,421 ft)
Romania 414 m (1,358 ft)
France 375 m (1,230 ft)
Portugal 372 m (1,220 ft)
Croatia 331 m (1,086 ft)
Sweden 320 m (1,050 ft)
Germany 263 m (863 ft)
Belgium 181 m (594 ft)
Ukraine 175 m (574 ft)
Poland 173 m (568 ft)
Finland 164 m (538 ft)
United Kingdom 162 m (531 ft)
Belarus 160 m (525 ft)
Hungary 143 m (469 ft)
Moldova 139 m (456 ft)
Ireland 118 m (387 ft)
Lithuania 110 m (361 ft)
Cyprus 91 m (299 ft)
Latvia 87 m (285 ft)
Estonia 61 m (200 ft)
Denmark 34 m (112 ft)
Netherlands 30 m (98 ft)

Stretches from north albania and into southern Montenegro

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%C3%ABsia

But isnt basically mount elbrus the highest in Europe?

Anyway, I always thought Austria and Switzerland had a similar nature to Balkans

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

San Antonio de los Cobres

San Antonio de los Cobres is a small town of population 5,482 (per the 2001 INDEC census) in northwestern Argentina. It is the capital of the Los Andes Department of the Salta Province.

Geography

he town is known for its high elevation of approximately 3,775 meters (12,385 feet) above sea level, being one of the highest elevations of any city or town in Argentina. It is located approximately 160 kilometers (99 mi) from the city of Salta and 2,000 kilometers (1,200 mi) from the capital, Buenos Aires. It is part of the Andes desert and described to be an arid region with little trees and scarce drinking water.

http://www.turismotastil.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/san-antonio-de-los-cobres01.jpg
http://www.tripincdn.com.ar/img/salta/san-antonio-de-los-cobres/Celine-Frers-San-Antonio-de-los-Cobres-10.jpg
http://www.tripincdn.com.ar/img/salta/san-antonio-de-los-cobres/Celine-Frers-San-Antonio-de-los-Cobres-2.jpg

Las Cuevas

Las Cuevas es una localidad del Departamento Las Heras, Mendoza, situada en la Cordillera de los Andes, próxima al límite internacional con la República de Chile.

Es la más elevada de la provincia (altitud 3.557 msnm) y la situada más hacia el oeste.

Dista 210 km de la capital provincial y 88 km de Uspallata, el centro de servicios más cercano, vinculada por la Ruta Nacional 7.

Tiene importancia por ser la última población de esa ruta, que constituye el principal Corredor del Mercosur que comunica Brasil, Argentina y Chile, a través del Túnel del Cristo Redentor (altitud 3.185 msnm).

A 9 km de la población, subiendo por un camino estrecho y sinuoso que era parte de la antigua ruta hacia Chile (actual ruta nacional A006), se encuentra el monumento al Cristo Redentor, símbolo de la confraternidad entre Argentina y Chile.

El clima de la región es frío y seco, de alta montaña. En invierno son frecuentes las nevadas, que bloquean el paso a Chile. En invierno las temperaturas pueden bajar a -20 °C e incluso menos, y en verano llegan a 25 °C durante los días más cálidos. El promedio de julio es de -2 °C y el de enero de 11 °C aproximadamente.

Existen oficinas donde se realiza el control aduanero y migratorio y un destacamento de Gendarmería.

Contaba solamente con 7 habitantes (INDEC, 2001) en el Censo efectuado en 2001.

Entre 1910 y 1984 funcionó una estación del Ferrocarril Trasandino. Desde esta estación hacia la ciudad chilena de Los Andes la tracción era eléctrica.

http://elportaldemendoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Arco-de-Las-Cuevas.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/81198668.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/25496269.jpg
http://elportaldemendoza.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Vista-panor%C3%A1mica-de-Las-Cuevas.jpg

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Iruya

Iruya is a small town of population 1,070 in northwestern Argentina. It is located in the Salta Province of northwestern Argentina, and is the capital of the Iruya Department.

Overview

Located in the altiplano region along the Iruya River, Iruya sits nestled against the mountainside at an elevation of 2,780 meters (9,120 feet). It is located over 300 kilometers (190 mi) from the province capital of Salta. There is no direct road connection to the rest of the Salta province and access is through a road to the adjacent Jujuy province, a 50 km (31 mi) portion of which is unpaved.[1] Nonetheless, the town is popular with tourists for its scenic location and townscape and friendly locals.[2] 8 km north of Iruya there is the village of San Isidro, 7 km north there is the village of San Juan, 6 km south there is the village of Pueblo Viejo.

Iruya's name is derived from the Quechua language, meaning "abundance of straw".

http://d3bgb83gsu3958.cloudfront.net/fotos/iruya-2006/iruya-2006.jpg
http://www.sauval.com/fotos/humahuaca2012/iruya24.jpg
http://argentinatravelonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/iruya-12.jpg
http://d3bgb83gsu3958.cloudfront.net/imagenes/fotos085.jpg

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Mina Pirquitas

Mina Pirquitas is a town and municipality in Jujuy Province in Argentina[1] in the Rinconada Department, in Coyaguaima district, 355 km from the capital of Jujuy, accessed from the town of Abra Pampa by provincial routes 7 and RP 70 (138 km).

Geography
With residences at 4,340 metres (14,240 ft) above sea level, it is the highest Argentinian year-round settlement. The localities of Olaroz Chico, at 4,100 metres (13,500 ft), and Chico Pairique at 4,340 metres (14,240 ft) meters, (both located in the Province of Jujuy), are at higher elevations, but were considered by the National Census 1991 as dispersed rural communities with little or no year-round residences at those altitudes. The population of the settlement at the mine ranges up to 673 inhabitants, though during initial construction, the region housed about 2000 inhabitants. There are two centers: one administrative (offices, laboratories, hospital, house and chapel) and another to the west about 7 miles where "The streak" and where most of the mines are located.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rYrEl5W7PxY/UZuAL7wE-1I/AAAAAAAADlE/YyWV2NjKCGs/s1600/yira+1.JPG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7uvCtgaUVWw/UZuHRkGeklI/AAAAAAAADlk/kDxzAxr8E0s/s1600/pirquitas.JPG
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/25317058.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/9404215201_7482b8b3e3_o.jpg

Pairique Chico
Pairique Chico es una pequeña localidad rural del departamento Susques, en la Provincia de Jujuy, Argentina. Se encuentra en la puna jujeña, a una altura de 4340 msnm.

https://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/104435772.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/49146913.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/33979392.jpg

Santa Catalina (Jujuy)

Santa Catalina (Jujuy) is a town and municipality in Jujuy Province in Argentina. It is the northernmost permanently inhabited town in Argentina, and is a high altitude mining town (3770 m) where inhabitants also raise llamas and other animals, and cultivate fruit.

http://www.turismoruta40.com.ar/siteImages/norte/santa-catalina.jpg
http://www.eltribuno.info/adjuntos/171/imagenes/000/886/0000886733.jpg
http://visitejujuy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IMG_20160206_1842581.jpg
http://visitejujuy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IMG_20160206_1843351.jpg

[f0rgiven]

Surprised no one mentioned China, Nepal and Bhutan yet. Han Chinese and almost every ethnic minority there are people of the mountains and mountains are revered in Chinese culture.

China is also one of the highest countries in the world (http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-average-elevations.html)(some really beautiful photos)

From the link above, the top 10 highest countries are:
1. Bhutan (10,760 ft)
2. Nepal (10,715 ft)
3. Tajikistan (10,455 ft)
4. Kyrgyztan (9,805 ft)
5. Antarctica (7,454 ft)
6. Lesotho (7,090 ft)
7. Andorra (6,550 ft)
8. Afghanistan (6,180 ft)
9. Chile (6,140 ft)
10.China (6,035 ft)

[Laberia]

Vasojevici were not. Kuci are one and only clan with story of Albanian origin (allegedly from Skanderbeg). And we have more than 30 clans...
Whole western and central Montenegro is dominated by clans carrying I2a1b, I1-P109 and N1a, which are definitely not of native Balkan origin. Only easternmost parts of country (they didn't even consider themselves Montenegrin until recently) are native Balkanites patrilineary. That doesn't necessarily mean they are Albanian- Vasojevic haplotype is extremely distant from Albos.
"Everyone is Albo" story is getting quite boring... you are not very different from Serbs in that regard. xD

Do you know that there are Vasoieviç tribe in Italy? They migrated when Shkodra and the region around was invaded by Ottomans. They speak an idioma called by them НАШКИ И АРБАНАШКИ, Nashki Arbanacki.
You don't know for example that Biellopavliç tribe in middle ages were called Palbardhaj. Both, Biellopavliç in serv and Palbardhaj in Alb can be translated in English White Paul.
About Kuçi or Kuci they are mentioned in medieval documents as Kuci Albanese, Albanian Kuci.
Kuçi or Kuç is one of the most used names or toponyms in Albanian. It is from Albanian Kuq, mean Red. You can find Kuçi from South servia, Albania, until Greece and Italy.
BTW, the heart of my region, Labëria, is Kurvelesh and the heart of Kurvelesh are three villages, Kuç, Kallararat and Bolena, but Kuç is considered the most important.
You know very well your origin, is documented.

[Mingle]

http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/physical_world_map_1600px.jpg



mountain ethnic groups that I know



North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish
Kurds



if you know more you can expand this list

Bavarians
Albanians
Croats
Bosniaks
Tajiks
Some Sub-Saharan ethnicities
Azerbaijanis

[Wild North]

Tallest peaks in the Balkan are in Bulgaria.Unlike the western Balkans who are predominantly mountainous we have a great perfect 50/50 split between mountain and flatland geography.

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-bulgaria-shaded-relief-map-with-major-urban-areas-surrounding-territory-greyed-out-colored-16999762.jpg


Are there any specific "mountain ethnicities" in Bulgaria ?

[Jana]

Slovenians are called Alpine Slavs for a reason :)
Most of their country is completely mountanious/hilly.

I wouldn't put Scots in this category, higlanders aren minority there and most their population reside in the lowlands.

[Arjana]

Anyway there are no mountains with glacier in Albania, so this picture must be wrong.

Georgian why dont you go and post some gypsy weeding music from Balkans to prove to people that Georgians are not as much middle eastern as they seem to cure your OWD.

Of course there are a lot of glacier albanian highlands.

[Arjana]

North Albanian Highlanders ( North Albania, Southern Montenegro, Western Kosovo)

http://i64.tinypic.com/16ive51.jpg
http://www.zemrashqiptare.net/images/article/2013_04/31623/u1_DedeGjoLuli3.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/c0ldfir3/18e_thomson_albania.jpg
http://www.malsia.eu/historia_Preng_Cali.jpg
http://www.albaniapress.com/fotot/lajme_foto/jul_09/948QtaA.Bjts.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f9/f2/e5/f9f2e5fd708ef20ce8c15b32058826f9.jpg
http://www.albdreams.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jehona2.jpg
http://previews.123rf.com/images/ollirg/ollirg1309/ollirg130900135/22201713-Lepushe-Albania-August-11-2012-parade-of-some-competitors-to-Miss-Mountain-2012-Albanian-Miss-Bjeshk-Stock-Photo.jpg

[Root]

Mountain ranges


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Mountain_Range_Banner.jpg/2560px-Mountain_Range_Banner.jpg


By length


Mid-ocean ridge – 40,389 km (25,097 mi)
Andes – 7,000 km (4,300 mi)
Rocky Mountains – 4,830 km (3,000 mi)
Great Dividing Range – 3,700 km (2,300 mi)
Transantarctic Mountains – 3,500 km (2,200 mi)
Kunlun Mountains – 3,000 km (1,900 mi)
Ural Mountains – 2,500 km (1,600 mi)
Atlas Mountains – 2,500 km (1,600 mi)
Appalachian Mountains – 2,414 km (1,500 mi)
Himalayas – 2,400 km (1,500 mi)
Altai Mountains – 2,000 km (1,200 mi)
Kjølen – c. 1,700 km (1,100 mi)
Carpathian Mountains – 1,700 km (1,100 mi)
Barisan Mountains – c. 1,700 km (1,100 mi)
Coast Mountains – 1,600 km (990 mi)
Qin Mountains – 1,600 km (990 mi)
Western Ghats – 1,600 km (990 mi)
Serra do Mar – 1,500 km (930 mi)
Taurus Mountains – 1,500 km (930 mi)
Zagros Mountains – 1,500 km (930 mi)
Sierra Madre Occidental – 1,500 km (930 mi)
Mantiqueira Mountains/Espinhaço Mountains – 1,320 km (820 mi)
Caucasus Mountains – 1,200 km (750 mi)
Vindhya Range – 1,200 km (750 mi)
Alps – 1,200 km (750 mi)
Apennines – 1,200 km (750 mi)
Drakensberg – 1,125 km (700 mi)
Cascade Mountains – 1,100 km (680 mi)
Annamite Range – 1,100 km (680 mi)
Brooks Range – 1,100 km (680 mi)
U.S. Interior Highlands
Aravalli Range – 692 km (430 mi)
Dinaric Mountains – 645 km (401 mi)
Balkan Mountains – 530 km (330 mi)
Southern Alps – 500 km (310 mi)

[Peterski]

Polish Gorals too. They are not Rusyns. Only South-Eastern Poland has Lemko Rusins, but Gorals in South-Central Poland are another group and they speak a dialect of Polish (unlike Rusins who speak a dialect of Ukrainian, East Slavic).

[Pribislav]

Monrenegrins are highlanders of the Balkans.
http://www.mappedplanet.com/karten/c250/image2.png

[Peterski]

Slovak highlanders as well. They are kind of a continuum with Polish Gorals.

[Root]

Polish Gorals too. They are not Rusyns. Only South-Eastern Poland has Lemko Rusins, but Gorals in South-Central Poland are another group and they speak a dialect of Polish (unlike Rusins who speak a dialect of Ukrainian, East Slavic).




I took these pictures in Sudetes, mountains I fell in love with... about five years ago




https://i.ibb.co/tM9yhYN/DSC-0656.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XpsqPNm/DSC-0607.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LYN8W49/DSC-0587.jpg



super beautiful places there

[Peterski]

I took these pictures in Sudetes

Sudetes don't have any Gorals and never had them (although there is a legend about Gorals in Karkonosze - one part of Sudetes - but it is just a myth).

Only Carpathian Mountains have Gorals in Poland. Subdivisions of Polish Carpathian Gorals according to Janusz Kamocki:

https://i.imgur.com/csQCNCU.png

Two photos of Kliszczaki (or Kliszczacy) Gorals (number 9 in the map above) from Pcim:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcim

https://i.imgur.com/t8tT4o3.png

https://i.imgur.com/WmJYyfT.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/779/30949572663_37d588c515_o.jpg

[Peterski]

Essential to Gorals is their pastoralist culture, which means they live from resources of the mountains. This was brought from the Balkans by Vlach migration, although actual genetic contribution of Vlachs to Polish Gorals is low (based on GEDmatch kits I saw). It was mostly adoption of Vlach culture by local groups.

Such pastoralist culture never existed in Sudetes, because Vlach migration never reached that area, and it never developed locally.

In Czech Republic, only Moravia has Vlachs (I have few Moravian Vlach GEDmatch kits, they are more eastern than regular Czechs):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravian_Wallachia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlach_uprisings_in_Moravia

[Pribislav]

The highest town in the Balkans is Žabljak in Montenegro on 1456 m altitude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Žabljak

The highest settlement in the Balkans is village Mala Crna Gora near Žabljak with 1800 m altitude
http://www.mojacrnagora.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mcg-slika-dana-2014-05-07-selo-malacrnagora-ilija-sipcic.jpg

Average elevation of Montenegro is 1050 m.

[Peterski]

Alpine Slavs developed some kind of truly mountain lifestyle / culture, similar to Gorals and Vlachs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_settlement_of_the_Eastern_Alps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carantania

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Western/northern Slovenia is very mountanious, eastern and southern parts less so.

http://www.vidiani.com/maps/maps_of_europe/maps_of_slovenia/large_relief_map_of_slovenia.jpg

[Peterski]

Western Slovenia is very mountanious, eastern part less so.

California is also very mountanious. Does it make them highlanders as a population?

I think it requires a certain lifestyle, economy and culture connected to the mountains.

Building towns and farms in mountain valleys doesn't make them true highlanders.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

California is also very mountanious. Does it make them highlanders as a population?

I think it requires a certain lifestyle, economy and culture connected to the mountains.

Building towns and farms in mountain valleys doesn't make them true highlanders.

Slovenes do have highlander culture. Hiking and alpine skiing is very popular, very Slovene child knows these things. Outdoor culture like spending time in Alpine holiday houses is very popular.

I topped all important Alpine peaks of Slovenia with my father, he used to be passionate hiker/climber. Also a few in Austria.

[Voskos]

West Balkanites, Austrians, Swiss, Atlas Berbers, Native Americans, Pontic Greeks.

[Pribislav]

Western Slovenia is very mountanious, eastern part less so.

Slovenians are known as Alpine Slavs.

According to El Moldovano Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, because according to him for Slavs is forbidden to live in mountain areas. :picard1:

Slovenians live in Alps and they are most Slavic South Slavs. In Slovenia in higher elevation R1a is stronger than in plains. Stereotype that Slavs are only lowlanders is bullshit.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Slovenians are known as Alpine Slavs.

According to El Moldovano Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, because according to him for Slavs is forbidden to live in mountain areas. :picard1:

Slovenians live in Alps and they are most Slavic South Slavs. In Slovenia in higher elevation R1a is stronger than in plains. Stereotype that Slavs are only lowlanders is bullshit.

Vlach contribution is irrelevant in Slovenia. But I wouldn't say they are most Slavic - Croats and Bosnians are more. Like half of Slovene gene pool is south German.

[Blondie]

Slovenians are known as Alpine Slavs.

According to El Moldovano Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, because according to him for Slavs is forbidden to live in mountain areas. :picard1:

Slovenians live in Alps and they are most Slavic South Slavs. In Slovenia in higher elevation R1a is stronger than in plains. Stereotype that Slavs are only lowlanders is bullshit.

And don't forget the highlander slovaks, bosnians, macedonians etc... :D

[Peterski]

Slovenes do have highlander culture. Hiking and alpine skiing is very popular, very Slovene child knows these things. Outdoor culture like spending time in Alpine holiday houses is very popular. I topped all important Alpine peaks of Slovenia with my father, he used to be passionate hiker/climber. Also a few in Austria.

I'm talking rather about things like this:

https://historum.com/threads/what-happend-to-the-celts-in-southern-germany-switzerland-etc.124921/page-3#post-2682178

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walser

"The Walser are highly interesting and despite their 'walh' prefix, as you say, they were germanic. The reason is, is that they are named after the Valais region, Wallis in german. They were alemannic farmers who had developed a technique of over wintering cattle above 600m and they were invited into, what is now Valais, to exploit the upper mountain pastures. The success in the resultant increase in food production became well known and neighbouring groups to the east invited them to come and do the same. There are 'pockets' of these settlements as far as the Grosser and Kleine Walsertal in Austria and it is known as the Walser route."

^^^ Now this is a mountain ethnicity (due to the highlighted statement).

https://i.imgur.com/vWI2z3n.jpg

[Pribislav]

1/2 Germanic dna is to much for Slovenians.

Slovenians are around 1/4 Germanic by y dna (R1b-U106, I1 and I2-M223).

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'm talking rather about things like this:

https://historum.com/threads/what-happend-to-the-celts-in-southern-germany-switzerland-etc.124921/page-3#post-2682178

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walser

"The Walser are highly interesting and despite their 'walh' prefix, as you say, they were germanic. The reason is, is that they are named after the Valais region, Wallis in german. They were alemannic farmers who had developed a technique of over wintering cattle above 600m and they were invited into, what is now Valais, to exploit the upper mountain pastures. The success in the resultant increase in food production became well known and neighbouring groups to the east invited them to come and do the same. There are 'pockets' of these settlements as far as the Grosser and Kleine Walsertal in Austria and it is known as the Walser route."

^^^ Now this is a mountain ethnicity (due to the highlighted statement).

https://i.imgur.com/vWI2z3n.jpg

Are they germanized Vlahs ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaeto-Romance_languages

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

1/2 is to much.

Slovenians are around 1/4 Germanic by y dna (R1b_U106, I1 and I2-M223).

Maybe, but I speak about autosomal. I'm around quater Germanic and only half Slovene. Doubtful that 1/8 Czech ancestry would increase my Germanic score, it's too small amount.

[Peterski]

Are they germanized Vlahs ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaeto-Romance_languages

I don't know, I don't have any GEDmatch kits of these people. But user Authun wrote:

https://historum.com/threads/what-happend-to-the-celts-in-southern-germany-switzerland-etc.124921/page-3#post-2682176

"The germanic speakers still referred to former celtic speaking tribes but who now spoke vulgar latin as 'welsh' or 'walhs', even though the language disappeared. The best examples are french speaking Switzerland, the 'Suisse Romande' known in Germay as 'Das Welschland' or the swiss canton of Valais, or Wallis in german and of course Wallonie in Belgium. But, as far as I know, they are always within the Roman Limes."

[Pribislav]

And don't forget the highlander slovaks, bosnians, macedonians etc... :D

In Bosnia Serbs and Croatians are located more in mountain areas than Muslims/Bosniaks. That was before war in 1990s, and after war partly changed. This was even more in Ottoman time. When Ottomans came convertits on Islam took plains/river valleys, and those who stayed Christians escaped to mountains.

[Kaspias]

Pomaks.

[Pribislav]

Pomaks.

Why Pomaks live in Rhodopes?

In Bosnia islamized population in Ottoman time took lower and more fertile lands. Mountains were mostly for Christians.

[black hole]

I took these pictures in Sudetes, mountains I fell in love with... about five years ago

[img]

super beautiful places there




I like your Slav squat. :)

[Peterski]

Root,

Have you been to Góry Świętokrzyskie?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Awi%C4%99tokrzyskie_Mountains

This is also roughly in the same region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w-Cz%C4%99stochowa_Upland

http://www.beataprzyroda.cba.pl/Krajobrazy%20Polski/rysunek_gory.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6w38dWeX4Y

^^^
Everyone knows that Poland has Carpathians and Sudetes. But Holy Cross Mountains? Our 3rd mountains are less well-known!

http://www.national-geographic.pl/media/cache/gallery_view/uploads/media/default/0012/80/zamek-w-checinach_4.jpeg

And here is the Cracow-Częstochowa Upland:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Tatry-ze-skalki-502.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQDx7yvI0IY

[Root]

I like your Slav squat. :)



when you don't have a chair, it's the best choice... :D





Root,

Have you been to Góry Świętokrzyskie?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Awi%C4%99tokrzyskie_Mountains

http://www.beataprzyroda.cba.pl/Krajobrazy%20Polski/rysunek_gory.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6w38dWeX4Y



only here..


https://i.postimg.cc/Dz1GrPnJ/12122.gif

[Kaspias]

Why Pomaks live in Rhodopes?

In Bosnia islamized population in Ottoman time took lower and more fertile lands. Mountains were mostly for Christians.

I don't know the exact answer. But Pomaks don't live anywhere but Mountains. They live isolated, even still. I have a few thoughts but not much likely. May be about Bogomilism, for example.

[Peterski]

You should visit the Holy Cross Mountains and Jura Upland.

Jura Upland also has a "shit tone" of Medieval stone castles:

https://zamki.res.pl/jura.php

https://zamki.res.pl/jura3.gif

[Aspirin]

According to El Moldovano Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, because according to him for Slavs is forbidden to live in mountain areas. :picard1:


I never claimed what Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, Bosnians yes, have some influence from them, especially culturally, genetically not so much, depends of region. And yes, Slavs originally are not mountain people, Carpathian Slavs are the best example.

[Pribislav]

I never claimed what Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, Bosnians yes, have some influence, especially culturally, genetically not so much, depends of region. And yes, Slavs originally are not mountain people, Carpathian Slavs are the best example.

Yes, you never said that. But you said that Slavs are explusively lowlanders and Vlachs highlanders. My post is based on that.

Slovenians in the past were more mountain people than today. Austrian Carinthia was Slovenian ethnic region in the middle age. Slovenians there were germanized, vast majority of them.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Anything below 1000 meters isn't mountain, but hill.


Austrian Carinthia was Slovenian ethnic region in the middle age. Slovenians there were germanized, vast majority of them.

That's correct.

[Peterski]

Anything below 1000 meters isn't mountain, but hill.

Says who? So Scotland doesn't have mountains? :picard1:

[Kouros]

Aromanians, North Albanians, Cretans

[Dick]

Slovenians are known as Alpine Slavs.

According to El Moldovano Slovenians are slavized Vlachs, because according to him for Slavs is forbidden to live in mountain areas. :picard1:

Slovenians live in Alps and they are most Slavic South Slavs. In Slovenia in higher elevation R1a is stronger than in plains. Stereotype that Slavs are only lowlanders is bullshit.

Why do some people call them Alpine Serbs as a joke? I never understood that.

[Aspirin]

Yes, you never said that. But you said that Slavs are explusively lowlanders and Vlachs highlanders. My post is based on that.


Yes, originally Slavs are lowlanders and farmers. Even in your Serbian medieval documents from 12-14th centuries is very well specified, pastoralic Vlach communities lives in mountain area, the rest in the lowlands.


Slovenians in the past were more mountain people than today. Austrian Carinthia was Slovenian ethnic region in the middle age. Slovenians there were germanized, vast majority of them.

Slovenians lives near Alps, can be other ethnicities who influenced them, for example some local population of Celtic origin. Mountain culture of Alps is totally different from Balkanic and Carpathian one.

[Peterski]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/779/30949572663_37d588c515_o.jpg

I can't believe it - Poland has 20-40% mountain area but Germany less than 20% ??? I expected less than 20% for Poland.

And South Germany is pretty mountainous AFAIK (more than South Poland): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Plain

[Pribislav]

Katuns in Montenegro.
http://www.putokaz.me/images/REPORTAZE/PRIRODA/26_Planina_Komovi/komoi3.jpg

http://www.mojacrnagora.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/mcg-slika-dana-2014-03-28-pesica-katun-bjelasica-marija-soskic.jpg

Officially Katun is vlach form of organization. Anyway vlachs were originaly Slavic social class of sheperds.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Scottish Highlanders, Welsh people living around Snowdonia, Basques, Swiss, Austrians, Alpine people, etc, etc. There's too much to list as there's mountains in the Scandinavian nations, and mountainous regions in other parts of Europe too.

[Dacul]

People from Muntenia, Romania are also a Mountains ethnicity.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Says who? So Scotland doesn't have mountains? :picard1:

That's definition laid down in geographic textbooks I read. Hill (500-1000 m), mountain (1000m +)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Why do some people call them Alpine Serbs as a joke? I never understood that.

Yes. There were ethnic Slovenian chetniks in ww2. So called Blue Guard opposed to White Guard which was Axis allied.

https://slobodnadalmacija.hr/bbimagehandler.ashx?file=/Archive/images/2014/02/10/Panorama/cetnici00.jpg&width=780

[Pribislav]

Why do some people call them Alpine Serbs as a joke? I never understood that.

Slovenians = Alpine Serbs
Croatian = Catholic Serbs
Bosniaks = Muslims Serbs
Northern Macedonians = Serbs with huge speech disorder
Montenegrins =successful Serbs

:)

[Voskos]

Officially Katun is vlach form of organization. Anyway vlachs were originaly Slavic social class of sheperds.

katun is an albanian word though, katund. unless it also exists in romanian which i doubt.

[Pribislav]

katun is an albanian word though, katund. unless it also exists in romanian which i doubt.

Maybe.

Both Albanians and Vlachs in the past lived on Katuns deep in mountains.

[ixulescu]

katun is an albanian word though, katund. unless it also exists in romanian which i doubt.

Of course it exists, in Romanian is called "cătun".
It has the same origin with the word "canton" (like the Swiss cantons).

It's derived from the Latin word "cantus", meaning "slope", and it referred to the land division of the mountain slopes.

[RenaRyuguu]

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[Arsen_]

mountain ethnic groups that I know

North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish
Kurds

if you know more you can expand this list

Armenian Highlanders. Agile strong and hardy people perfectly adapted to life in the Highlands.

In ancient Armenia there was a saying: Where the snow leopard will pass, there Armenian will pass too!

[Wild North]

http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/physical_world_map_1600px.jpg



mountain ethnic groups that I know



North Caucasians
Georgians
Tibetans
Pushtuns
Burushaski
Pamirians
Khmer
Certain ethnicities of Native americans
Appalachians
Swiss
Montenegrins
Rusins
Scottish
Kurds



if you know more you can expand this list


Romanian and Bulgarian Highlanders ?

The Samis ? Maybe a part of them. They live in North-western Scandinavia, and these regions are pretty mountainious.

[Samnium]

Savoy Mountainers

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6f/21/72/6f2172b93f8f0eee46444d32a370595c--rhone-folk-costume.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/34/ae/bb34aee0e6cac6aa164d4b2334d9f98d.jpg
https://static.apidae-tourisme.com/filestore/objets-touristiques/images/79/69/2245967.jpg
https://www.aravis-haute-savoie.fr/page-evenement-fete/fete-reblochon-2013/012-paysan-savoyard.jpg
http://www.lesamisduterroir-sevrier.com/image_3382.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compfr/cn892t/d-abord-publie-1915-bovins-savoyard-boeufs-paysan-francais-lac-de-geneve-cn892t.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compfr/b9mh3c/france-savoie-peisey-nancroix-costume-et-mountain-festival-femmes-en-costume-et-l-homme-b9mh3c.jpg
http://a52.idata.over-blog.com/406x600/4/20/45/76/CULTURE-SAVOYARDE/COSTUME-SAVOYARD.jpg

My two sides are from mountainous areas :cool:

[PAGANE]

Ancient Bulgarian katoon - "tent, camp" (Manasiev Chronicle). The word is of unclear origin - it is spread in all Balkan languages: The ending -un is Slavic. North Caucasian Forms: Abkhaz. a-қыҭа [a-kǝta], abaz. kǝt "village", adig., cabard. чэт [tʃat] "a barn, a stable" (PAA * kátǝ "village"), sturgeon. dig. kæt [kæt] "stable".

[Ford]

Andean highlanders and Tibetans. Everyone else is a bitch ass.

[Dick]

Andean highlanders and Tibetans. Everyone else is a bitch ass.

You forgot the Nepalese clans

[War Chef]

You forgot the Nepalese clans

You forgot Armenians.

[dududud]

Sardinians or sardinians from Barbagia.

[Ford]

You forgot the Nepalese clans

Indeed. Everyone is a badass until a Gorkha separates their head from their body.

[War Chef]

Indeed. Everyone is a badass until a Gorkha separates their head from their body.

They look like chinamen to me.

Not intimidating at all

[Root]

the highest mountain village in Europe



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dT58dAeGAI

[pelikarski]

Romanian and Bulgarian Highlanders ?

The Samis ? Maybe a part of them. They live in North-western Scandinavia, and these regions are pretty mountainious.

Prior the industrialization and during Ottoman times Bulgarians used to live in the mountains. The area around my hometown is pretty mountainous
https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75550365_240464826920594_9120351465234235392_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=kcUt6PhVjCkAQlNeW-KOC3hqSWzWXWLh2dWtfwqxbT702N66rUWhOePqw&_nc_ht=scontent-sof1-1.xx&oh=49f9216fd640b82c623d113d094b0d44&oe=5E819731
https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75540158_10217351152324884_3150806206122033152_o.j pg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=qn8v15ZjjloAQlfEXuOE-Ep1S-HGA6aTiJPq_kMNNMiyfVIKIqkT4TpIw&_nc_ht=scontent-sof1-1.xx&oh=d0b4713b495ba0da3872cf0be1bed864&oe=5E3E9113

[lameduck]

Northern Pakistan is home to some of the highest mountains on this planet , ethnicities there are kho, burushu, shina, wakhi etc , but frankly speaking most populaous areas are reletively in lower alititude region , Skardu is last major human settlement before wilderness of karakoram, even it is over 100 km away from baltoro glacier , 15 day trekking on which brings you to first sight of K2(8611m).

but nonthless some pictures

Kho

https://www.groundreport.com/wp-content/uploads/archived/01210345780_ARTICLE_IMAGE_cjl3257jpg.jpg

Burushu/Shina/Gilgitis

https://i2.wp.com/pamirtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Futsal-De-Ghulkin-3.jpg
https://c.tribune.com.pk/2012/01/316784-ProtestersPHOTOMUHAMMADJAVAID-1325704228-975-640x480.jpg

[FinalFlash]

Northern Pakistan is home to some of the highest mountains on this planet , ethnicities there are kho, burushu, shina, wakhi etc , but frankly speaking most populaous areas are reletively in lower alititude region , Skardu is last major human settlement before wilderness of karakoram, even it is ovee 100 km away from baltori glacier along 15 day trekking on which brings you to first sight of K2(8611m).

but nonthless some pictures

Kho

https://www.groundreport.com/wp-content/uploads/archived/01210345780_ARTICLE_IMAGE_cjl3257jpg.jpg

Burushu/Shina/Gilgitis

https://i2.wp.com/pamirtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Futsal-De-Ghulkin-3.jpg
https://c.tribune.com.pk/2012/01/316784-ProtestersPHOTOMUHAMMADJAVAID-1325704228-975-640x480.jpg

Many of them look Pashtun to me.

[lameduck]

Many of them look Pashtun to me.

yeah similar just more occurance of lighter types

[FinalFlash]

yeah similar just more occurance of lighter types

Pashtuns wish they were as light as Pakis.

[Bakha]

Bakha wishes he was as light as Pakis.

[FinalFlash]

I once mistook a Paki chick for a Parsik, true story.

[lameduck]

Pashtuns wish they were as light as Pakis.

most Pashtuns are pakis though , most Pashtuns live in either Pakistan or Afghanistan.

according to latest census there are rougly 38 million Pashto speakers in Pakistan and consitutute 16-20% of country's population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtuns

[FinalFlash]

most Pashtuns are pakis though , most Pashtuns live in either Pakistan or Afghanistan.

according to latest census there are rougly 38 million Pashto speakers in Pakistan and consitutute 16-20% of countries population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtuns

Are there interethnic rivalries between Pashtuns from Pakistan and Afghanistan?

[lameduck]

Are there interethnic rivalries between Pashtuns from Pakistan and Afghanistan?

no, many Pashtuns from border region dont consider border between Pakistan and Afghanistan as something official and consider all their own land. Border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is very porous , one of the reason US troops met tough resistance in east Afghanistan was because talibans used to disappear across border in Pakistan.

[FinalFlash]

no, many Pashtuns from border region dont consider border between Pakistan and Afghanistan as something official and consider all their own land. Border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is very porous , one of the reason US troops met tough resistance in east Afghanistan was because talibans used to disappear across border in Pakistan.

Are you for or against Pashtuns creating an independent nation?

[Maguzanci]

Andids, Pueblids and some Margids

Horn African/Ethiopian Highland groups like Oromo, Amhara

Papuan Highland tribes

Hill tribes in Northern Thailand, Burma and Southwest China

[lameduck]

Are you for or against Pashtuns creating an independent nation?

well I support Pakistan , I think Pakistan as a whole provide most oppurtunities to its native to land ethnicites to reach full potential of living standard possible , every state's goal in modern time is to provide high living standard + liberal environment to its populace. Punjabis and Pashtuns are two most populace ethnicites in the country but their land is land locked and dependent on port that is in Sindh, similarly Balochistan is resource rich but heavily dependend on Punjab for its bread basket. But I will not mind if Afghanistan form a sort of loose condedration with Pakistan such they they get free excess to sea and bread basket in indus valley.

[El_Abominacion]

Pahari Speakers are also a mountain people

[Vožd]

North Macedonia also.

[Vojnik]

Macedonians are a mountainous ethnicity. 80% of the territory of the Republic consists of hills and mountains. Literally everywhere you turn you are looking at mountain. And this is leaving out the rest of geographical Macedonia which is also very mountainous as a whole.

Typical terrain:
https://macedonia.for91days.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2017/04/Galicnik-Wedding-Festival-Fail-01-20140712-www.for91days.com-DSC00823.jpg

The mountain ethnic subgroup of Macedonians. The Mijaks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j9hGmPMDzg

[Pribislav]

Macedonians are a mountainous ethnicity. 80% of the territory of the Republic consists of hills and mountains. Literally everywhere you turn you are looking at mountain. And this is leaving out the rest of geographical Macedonia which is also very mountainous as a whole.

Typical terrain:
https://macedonia.for91days.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2017/04/Galicnik-Wedding-Festival-Fail-01-20140712-www.for91days.com-DSC00823.jpg

The mountain ethnic subgroup of Macedonians. The Mijaks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j9hGmPMDzg

Before communism Mijaks and Brsjaks had surnames which ended on IĆ like Serbs. In communism their surnames are macedonized, they were forced to took SKI.

[Pribislav]

..

[Impaler]

Romania too:

http://i.imgur.com/UGhJdE3.jpg (https://imgur.com/UGhJdE3)

[andre]

The romanian sub-culture of “Mocani”. They are mountain vlachs from Transylvania. I’ve some “Mocan” ancestry from 1700/1800 (paternal side)

[Adamm]

I guess Berbers could also be considered Mountain people, this is my area:

Cave were Iberomaurisians were found:

https://i.imgur.com/YRTJV4X.png

Typical villages:

https://i.imgur.com/zqnlXYY.png

https://i.imgur.com/G29g5Ud.png

https://i.imgur.com/5TDuvRs.png

https://i.imgur.com/rV2Lt1X.png

https://i.imgur.com/og7omZG.png

https://i.imgur.com/lhuGpA4.png

https://i.imgur.com/I8JxwZf.png

https://i.imgur.com/5FHu6FB.png

[Glauk]

Of course it exists, in Romanian is called "cătun".
It has the same origin with the word "canton" (like the Swiss cantons).

It's derived from the Latin word "cantus", meaning "slope", and it referred to the land division of the mountain slopes.

Borrowed from Byzantine Greek κατοῦνα (katoûna, “soldier's tent, tent camp”), borrowed from Italian cantone (“region”).Orel derives it as compound of ka (“out, from”) and tund (“to shake, dangle”), a calque of Proto-Slavic *kolyba (“hut”), folk-etymologized from *kolybati (“to shake”).

[Glauk]

Gheghs are tho OG highlanders :thumb001:

[Rocinante]

People from the Cantabrian mountains and the Pyrenees in Spain are mountain people. There's more mountain systems in Spain but i'm more familiarized with the cantabrian one. Hard working and honest people.