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Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 05:05 PM
What the Hell is SUCCESS???


Think about it, WTF is it. I hear them talk, "oh we need to go to school in order to be successful" when in reality even if u do go to school u won't really make that much money, since money is what they think of success, here's another one "have money work for you, don't work for money" or "you have to sacrifice a big start up money in order to be successful" << very unrealistic. How bout "WE NEED TO WORK WORK WORK AND SELL SELL SELL IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFULL, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE" << how bout you go shove it, cause i don't think any of that will make me happy, people have the biggest misconception that being rich makes you successful when i swear to god having been to more than 35 countries around the world the happiest people are the poorest people. Rich motherfuckers suffer to the bone. So that means that rich ppl or so-called successful people have to rely on money in order to be happy, so that means that they in no way can handle being poor or middle class.

I SWEAR PEOPLE JUDGE YOU ON THE STUPIDEST UNREALISTIC SHIT

ID SAY, DO WHATEVER THE FUCK MAKES YOU HAPPY, THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE WHO FISH FOR A LIVING WILL GET JUDGED BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO STAY FISHING INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE CITY AS AN EXAMPLE OR FARMERS, PEOPLE WHO ALSO LOVE TO DO MOONSHINE, YET ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE DISAPPEARING WITH THE HELP OF FUCKED UP TECHNOLOGY AND LAWS OR RULES. WHY AM I GONNA LET GO OF THE THINGS THAT I LOVE DOING JUST MAKE TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY AND BE MISERABLE????

Sekkmer
11-23-2016, 05:13 PM
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Jackson
11-23-2016, 05:17 PM
Well it depends if you are going on your personal definition of success (which can be whatever you want it to be), or what is considered success more broadly in your society or across societies/cultures in general. For the latter it's pretty much about acquiring higher status, wealth and family. I think those things are pretty universal norms (ie we tend to strive for those things because the people that had those things in previous generations left a greater social, cultural and genetic impact on the coming population). I think they are good general goals, but if you want to be happy you should make your own smaller goals as well.

GoneWithTheWind
11-23-2016, 05:18 PM
Being happy with what you do and who you are.

Being at peace with oneself.

Newman
11-23-2016, 05:19 PM
When, I'd have grown up, I'd be entreprenuer

Linebacker
11-23-2016, 05:20 PM
To society generally it means having lots of money.

When you see people in suits pulling up to expensive places in exotic cars you assume they are sucessful people.You don`t care how they made it.

crazyladybutterfly
11-23-2016, 05:21 PM
well i guess career success is cleary overrated. But i feel like it has most to do with self-esteem rather than actual desire of money , we live in a narcissistic and classist society anyway .. . more and more people will need to feel the "envy" and the "respect" of others

when I say that it isn't really about money I mean that you can clearly enjoy life even if your salary is a bit below average travels, videogames, cinema, library, gym etc are pretty much cheap in these days .. even if the prices are lowering it's almost impossible not to have the chance of buying some recreational good you desire. even a poor person get afford plastic surgery in countries where the price is the highest after few months of low paid jobs .

obviously you need to act wisely (meaning mostly not having more than affordable children for a decent living) .

I only see "school" as good when you're physically weak or going to achieve something that isn't really about money or for receiving respect from others, but it's only for you, for you thirst of knowledge or desire to help others (ex. doctors, researchers etc) .. if it's all about money you will most likely not be incentivated enough to make such sacrifice.


But I disagree with one thing : "
i swear to god having been to more than 35 countries around the world the happiest people are the poorest people

As I said before , you can obviously enjoy your life while living in a mild form of poverty but when it's extreme .. so extreme that:
- you are forced to prostitute yourself
- you can't buy the medicines for your beloved one (in more developed world this usually applies only to pets)
- you are forced to turn into a criminal because that's the only job you have found otherwise you're homeless
- you and your beloved ones are starving
- you take a lot of extremely underpaid jobs which aren't "verified by the state" .. i mean "lavori in nero" or "clandestine jobs" so that you have to spend most of your days working like a slave
- humiliating yourself
- begging
- etc.
you can't really say these people are the happiest.

these are the poorest people :

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a3/4f/b9/a34fb94556501f68856467a332510023.jpg

Profileid
11-23-2016, 05:24 PM
I don't know. Would like the answer myself.

Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 05:26 PM
me being 23 years of age, iv seen already too much and with the help of traveling for free and technology i been able to see the world for what it is moreso than most ppl who get caught up in materialism (nice cars, hot fake women, clubbing, 5-star hotels in Las Vegas etc...) i don't wanna have a fancy car, im happy with my 2010 toyota corolla, im happy with not having a good body, im happy with living simple, im happy getting drunk on cruises and in foreighn countries lol, im happy going to the wilderness and tribes in other countries instead of going to the same ol beach, hotels, and clubs when i can just do that here where i live (no need for traveling if thats what ur gonna do). Im happy going 60 mph on a 30 mph speed limit road listening to 70s & 80s music with my windows down with a cap and sunglasses ignoring everything around me (especially people). Im happy to say "FUCK YOU" to society or urban life. Im happy to say "FUCK YOU" to women who have high standards and break their ego and making them feel like shit 9cause they'r ego's too high). Im happy to help out those who need when and if i can with a lot of effort. When i worked in stores i would give discounts to good ppl who did not have enough (with much observation if theyr liers or not) and even then they'd still tip me despite me just being a cashier in my previous jobs. I feel miserable having to listen to fake music of today, i feel miserable having to feel alone most of the time because everyone has the same desires from copying eachother despite them not being themselves. I love being an outspoken person and i say "FUCK YOU" to success if it means to be rich and having ppl in that level judge then "FUCK YOU" too you nasty inbred pieces of shit, thinking they'r all high when they are nothing more than a bag of blood just like everyone else, and i will so happily watch them suffer if we were to ever get a solar flare as i know how to survive that better than most ppl

Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 05:33 PM
well i guess career success is cleary overrated. But i feel like it has most to do with self-esteem rather than actual desire of money , we live in a narcissistic and classist society anyway .. . more and more people will need to feel the "envy" and the "respect" of others

when I say that it isn't really about money I mean that you can clearly enjoy life even if your salary is a bit below average travels, videogames, cinema, library, gym etc are pretty much cheap in these days .. even if the prices are lowering it's almost impossible not to have the chance of buying some recreational good you desire. even a poor person get afford plastic surgery in countries where the price is the highest after few months of low paid jobs .

obviously you need to act wisely (meaning mostly not having more than affordable children for a decent living) .

I only see "school" as good when you're physically weak or going to achieve something that isn't really about money or for receiving respect from others, but it's only for you, for you thirst of knowledge or desire to help others (ex. doctors, researchers etc) .. if it's all about money you will most likely not be incentivated enough to make such sacrifice.


But I disagree with one thing : "

As I said before , you can obviously enjoy your life while living in a mild form of poverty but when it's extreme .. so extreme that:
- you are forced to prostitute yourself
- you can't buy the medicines for your beloved one (in more developed world this usually applies only to pets)
- you are forced to turn into a criminal because that's the only job you have found otherwise you're homeless
- you and your beloved ones are starving
- you take a lot of extremely underpaid jobs which aren't "verified by the state" .. i mean "lavori in nero" or "clandestine jobs" so that you have to spend most of your days working like a slave
- humiliating yourself
- begging
- etc.
you can't really say these people are the happiest.

these are the poorest people :

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a3/4f/b9/a34fb94556501f68856467a332510023.jpg

iv seen those types of ppl in the extremes, i didnt mean that extreme though, but poverty in latin america which is not like that of Africa. Those countries have always been that way and theyr gonna stay that way, just being realistic

i have to disagree about the physically weak going to school, cause now endays everyone is going to school in order to get money because of how hard things are these days and im def not physically weak and i go to school, only because i didnt think i had the ability to learn things quickly so i got myself in it just to have backup opportunities incase of an emergancy and also cause i want to move to Canada, in order for a US citizen (i became a US citizen recently) to move to canada he needs to have at least an Associates in something or bachelors or whatever

crazyladybutterfly
11-23-2016, 05:40 PM
iv seen those types of ppl in the extremes, i didnt mean that extreme though, but poverty in latin america which is not like that of Africa. Those countries have always been that way and theyr gonna stay that way, just being realistic

i have to disagree about the physically weak going to school, cause now endays everyone is going to school in order to get money because of how hard things are these days and im def not physically weak and i go to school, only because i didnt think i had the ability to learn things quickly so i got myself in it just to have backup opportunities incase of an emergancy and also cause i want to move to Canada, in order for a US citizen (i became a US citizen recently) to move to canada he needs to have at least an Associates in something or bachelors or whatever

if having a stable job with a much lower education was possible then the number of university students, especially in economics etc, wouldnt have been so high.
the problem indeed isn't even being rich but avoiding being homeless. that's what most people I know are worried about

Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 05:42 PM
if having a stable job with a much lower education was possible then the number of university students, especially in economics etc, wouldnt have been so high.
the problem indeed isn't even being rich but avoiding being homeless. that's what most people I know are worried about

basically yeah

i think now its gotten to the point where ppl don't even desire to be rich but rather staying above water

GoneWithTheWind
11-23-2016, 05:49 PM
I just wanna make enough money so I can get the fuck outta here. I feel i'm not happy here. It's like my soul/life force is getting drained everyday.

Essentially move back to my home country.

Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 07:54 PM
I just wanna make enough money so I can get the fuck outta here. I feel i'm not happy here. It's like my soul/life force is getting drained everyday.

Essentially move back to my home country.

i feel u on that

i see money as freedom, the only thing i see money as, same as u


Money is freedom

GoneWithTheWind
11-23-2016, 07:58 PM
i feel u on that

i see money as freedom, the only thing i see money as, same as u


Money is freedom

Money is power. Money is freedom. Since the world is basically run by it

Dominicanese
11-23-2016, 07:59 PM
Money is power

yupp, unfortunately

power is relied on a piece of paper, a piece of paper that now become invisible (electronically)

Ülev
11-23-2016, 08:00 PM
success is to convince sir R1ethel about E1 domination

Ziveth
06-27-2017, 12:55 AM
Doing good at the things you love and follow your dreams, in my opinion, is the key to success, and it makes you happy to reach your goals.

Sekarotuinen
06-27-2017, 12:56 AM
Living a life that betters those around you while staying pure from the influences of hell.

Dominicanese
06-27-2017, 07:10 PM
success is to convince sir R1ethel about E1 domination

hahahahaa, lmao

Dominicanese
06-27-2017, 07:12 PM
well ill tell you what

i think we'er back in the stone age because of money and technology, technology is good but if used the rght way, but when u see this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOM-aREAEKo
and its 2017

makes you wonder why did we go back in time? now its harder to be successful than our parents or their parents, we'er back to the stone age but at least in the stone age you had more freedom, we dont have freedom today

Isleño
06-27-2017, 07:47 PM
You can have all the education in the world, but without the will and drive, it's worthless. I went to college, got a degree that I used for a few years in corporate America, went back to school to work on an advanced degree. I founded a business in process that I did on the side. It started to turn hefty profit after a bit, I wound up saying the hell with a career and went all in on my own business. Fast forward to today and I've found success in something that I didn't even use or need my degree for that has brought me success that I would have not found in corporate America for many, many years. It wasn't the education, but the will and drive that was the catalyst in my success. If you get an idea and work at it with all the energy you have, you can make a success of yourself, no degree required. It's nice to be educated, and I recommend an education. But if it is pure success you are looking for, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Dominicanese
06-28-2017, 12:01 AM
You can have all the education in the world, but without the will and drive, it's worthless. I went to college, got a degree that I used for a few years in corporate America, went back to school to work on an advanced degree. I founded a business in process that I did on the side. It started to turn hefty profit after a bit, I wound up saying the hell with a career and went all in on my own business. Fast forward to today and I've found success in something that I didn't even use or need my degree for that has brought me success that I would have not found in corporate America for many, many years. It wasn't the education, but the will and drive that was the catalyst in my success. If you get an idea and work at it with all the energy you have, you can make a success of yourself, no degree required. It's nice to be educated, and I recommend an education. But if it is pure success you are looking for, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

nice job

i say the samething, right now im stuyding something im not sure about but i fly for free working in AA but im broke because AA doesnt pay well and the only reason ppl work for AA is due to the flight benefits, iv been around planes my whole life and have piloted myself a couple of times cause i also wanted to be a pilot but the life of a pilot is basically a bus driver, you have no life i talk to em all the time and i see em and they sleep in airports and ae miserable and dont see their families.

The one thing that i love besides traveling is powerlifting, for some reason im liking the feeling and the pain of it, i find pleasure in it and wish to keep doing it for the rest of my life eveb if i die young, but my problem is, wheres the money in that? we live in a day in age where u literally have to pay to do physical labor (powerlifting) which is stupid since men throughout history did labor, so that means that the poor ppl cannot get strong but rich ppl can? man we really live in a very unrealistic messed up world, iv seen so many poor ppl in third world nations that if could get em here to get stronger and compete they will dominate the sport and not the europeans like today and this is all due to money and technology. Everything is too techo for me, it really sucks to live in a time like this where you can only make money via a computer if your lucky.

lot a ppl think what im doing is not hard work but it is i get joint pains, pain in the knees, my lowerback fucking hurts like mathaf^& lol and im forced to take a week off sometimes because of it, also my hands leave blood on bars because im too broke to buy some strapps/gloves, or a belt (has been working without em though so no biggie) and yet i have ppl in the gym critize what what im doing or other ppl into powerlifting and im talking mostly women that are into men with abbs that break bones so easy its not even funny lol (i seen it happen 9x already) and also by guys with amazing phyisque (the critizm). It almost seems to me that we are in a time where we'er only gonna be left making money one way not two or three but one and i believe thats the problem more than anything

too many ppl i see struggling and possobly about the hardest working ppl iv seenin my life (more than u and me and all of us here combined) and they dont make it anywhere and they die hungry and poor and im like "WTF" they literally struggled all their lives for nothing, why should i?

the only struggle i enjoy and anyone is the one you enjoy the most, if you like the struggle of something your doing imo then thats your porpose, me i have an idea of what i would like to be doing which is traveling and powerlifting but theres no money in that, too futuristic for it now endays

Bari
06-28-2017, 12:35 AM
http://www.movebeyond.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fisherman.jpg
There was once a businessman who was sitting by the beach in a small Brazilian village.
As he sat, he saw a Brazilian fisherman rowing a small boat towards the shore having caught quite few big fish.
The businessman was impressed and asked the fisherman, “How long does it take you to catch so many fish?”
The fisherman replied, “Oh, just a short while.”
“Then why don’t you stay longer at sea and catch even more?” The businessman was astonished.
“This is enough to feed my whole family,” the fisherman said.
The businessman then asked, “So, what do you do for the rest of the day?”
The fisherman replied, “Well, I usually wake up early in the morning, go out to sea and catch a few fish, then go back and play with my kids. In the afternoon, I take a nap with my wife, and evening comes, I join my buddies in the village for a drink — we play guitar, sing and dance throughout the night.”

The businessman offered a suggestion to the fisherman.
“I am a PhD in business management. I could help you to become a more successful person. From now on, you should spend more time at sea and try to catch as many fish as possible. When you have saved enough money, you could buy a bigger boat and catch even more fish. Soon you will be able to afford to buy more boats, set up your own company, your own production plant for canned food and distribution network. By then, you will have moved out of this village and to Sao Paulo, where you can set up HQ to manage your other branches.”

The fisherman continues, “And after that?”
The businessman laughs heartily, “After that, you can live like a king in your own house, and when the time is right, you can go public and float your shares in the Stock Exchange, and you will be rich.”
The fisherman asks, “And after that?”
The businessman says, “After that, you can finally retire, you can move to a house by the fishing village, wake up early in the morning, catch a few fish, then return home to play with kids, have a nice afternoon nap with your wife, and when evening comes, you can join your buddies for a drink, play the guitar, sing and dance throughout the night!”
The fisherman was puzzled, “Isn’t that what I am doing now?”

EL_BARBARO
06-28-2017, 01:12 AM
Fulfilment.

Dominicanese
06-28-2017, 01:47 AM
http://www.movebeyond.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fisherman.jpg
There was once a businessman who was sitting by the beach in a small Brazilian village.
As he sat, he saw a Brazilian fisherman rowing a small boat towards the shore having caught quite few big fish.
The businessman was impressed and asked the fisherman, “How long does it take you to catch so many fish?”
The fisherman replied, “Oh, just a short while.”
“Then why don’t you stay longer at sea and catch even more?” The businessman was astonished.
“This is enough to feed my whole family,” the fisherman said.
The businessman then asked, “So, what do you do for the rest of the day?”
The fisherman replied, “Well, I usually wake up early in the morning, go out to sea and catch a few fish, then go back and play with my kids. In the afternoon, I take a nap with my wife, and evening comes, I join my buddies in the village for a drink — we play guitar, sing and dance throughout the night.”

The businessman offered a suggestion to the fisherman.
“I am a PhD in business management. I could help you to become a more successful person. From now on, you should spend more time at sea and try to catch as many fish as possible. When you have saved enough money, you could buy a bigger boat and catch even more fish. Soon you will be able to afford to buy more boats, set up your own company, your own production plant for canned food and distribution network. By then, you will have moved out of this village and to Sao Paulo, where you can set up HQ to manage your other branches.”

The fisherman continues, “And after that?”
The businessman laughs heartily, “After that, you can live like a king in your own house, and when the time is right, you can go public and float your shares in the Stock Exchange, and you will be rich.”
The fisherman asks, “And after that?”
The businessman says, “After that, you can finally retire, you can move to a house by the fishing village, wake up early in the morning, catch a few fish, then return home to play with kids, have a nice afternoon nap with your wife, and when evening comes, you can join your buddies for a drink, play the guitar, sing and dance throughout the night!”
The fisherman was puzzled, “Isn’t that what I am doing now?”

thats what im saying lol

no point

that fisherman was way ahead of the business man and thats how i feel honestly

Colonel Frank Grimes
06-28-2017, 01:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9buo9Mtos

Autrigón
06-28-2017, 02:04 AM
Success is just the feeling of happiness with your life...when you accept your circumstances and you adapt well to them. That's all.

Isleño
06-28-2017, 08:56 AM
Success is just the feeling of happiness with your life...when you accept your circumstances and you adapt well to them. That's all.
Well said. Many people equate success with finances. But success in life can be when you have total happiness in life. For some, that happiness comes from having lots of money. But for others, success is something money can't always buy.

Dominicanese
06-28-2017, 06:52 PM
Success is just the feeling of happiness with your life...when you accept your circumstances and you adapt well to them. That's all.

i wish my parents would have told me that ealier

Dominicanese
06-28-2017, 06:55 PM
Well said. Many people equate success with finances. But success in life can be when you have total happiness in life. For some, that happiness comes from having lots of money. But for others, success is something money can't always buy.

i think if our parents would have told us that when we were younger we'ed all be even more successful than we are today

funny, when u dont think about success or the reward and just dont give three shits about anything u actually have more money coming to u than when u work hard

LouisFerdinand
02-20-2018, 02:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8b4mZvrui4

Colonel Frank Grimes
02-20-2018, 03:54 AM
Achieving the goals you have set for yourself.

Lek
06-29-2018, 05:21 PM
I think it is achieving goals one has set for themselves. And be happy. It could be anything. Doesn't matter what others think.

Larali
07-06-2018, 10:40 AM
A couch, a hot cuppa coffee, and kittens.

Catarinense1998
07-06-2018, 10:42 AM
Personal sucess: when I get what you want to youself.
Social sucess: when you get what the people think be correct and better.

gıulıoımpa
07-06-2018, 10:47 AM
being in a happy respectful and mutual relationship with the person you love i'd classify as succes.

if you also do what you love in life then i really envy you

mitalit
08-15-2020, 08:08 PM
Doing good at the things you love

calxpal
08-16-2020, 01:45 AM
Finding something you love to do with a passion, sticking with it, and making the most out of every part of your life. Also having a work-life balance.

de Burgh II
03-28-2023, 01:05 AM
Living a life that betters those around you while staying pure from the influences of hell.


Statement seems to be a misnomer in itself. Just look at all the Hollywood scandals that goes own behind the scenes that acts as its own self-perpetual Pandora's box at the cost of one's personal "success." One you make a Faustian bargain, there is no going back; it is all downhill from its intrinsic inception the moment you consciously underwent such unsavory dealings.

Hexachordia
03-28-2023, 05:59 AM
I think it is about to go even with what you owe or might owe to people and society and humanity and the general backgrounds which have sustained ones existence and consumptions. It is better to owe less to anyone, your parents from the start, and friends, and society, world, gods. There are many ways to achieve this, the foremost is by religious asceticism and services, vegetarianism, non-commercialism, devotion, like buddhist monks almost consume no extra sustenances than what they need for sacred services on the minimum life energy; there is also another contrary way of non-owingness that is creativity, just create for everyone else and receive no rewards, like many great authors or philosophers which have influenced the world but have lived very ascetically and frugally. Capitalists are not successful to me since they are tended to get themselves into some complicated ties, but then they will have their own standard of success that is to out perform their peers in influence and wealth, this is what being imposed on the society as the social ladder value. The non-owingness and altruistic creativity are rooted in spiritual awareness, as the social ladder the foundation of all materialistic successes.