Sardinians Everywhere!

[Peterski]

A list of post-Neolithic (Early Metal Ages) ancient Y-DNA and GEDmatch kits from Iberia and Italy:

Y-DNA haplogroups and autosomal DNA of Copper Age Iberians:

Sample / (dating) / Y-DNA / GEDmatch kit / Single Pop. Sharing in Eurogenes K15:

ATP16 (3211-2866 BC) - woman - M422959 - Sardinian
ATP12 (3010-2879 BC) - I2a2a2
ATP17 (3007–2871 BC) - I2a2a
ATP2 (2899-2678 BC) - H2 - M849224 - Sardinian
I1300 (2880-2630 BC) - woman - M547763 - Sardinian
I1281 (2880-2630 BC) - woman - M784782 - Sardinian
I1303 (2880-2630 BC) - I2a1a1 - M734278 - Sardinian
I0581 (2880-2630 BC) - I2a2a1
I1284 (2880-2630 BC) - I
I1302 (2880-2630 BC) - G2a2b2b
I1314 (2880-2630 BC) - G2a - M216291 - Sardinian
I1280 (2880-2630 BC) - woman - M855364 - Sardinian
I1274 (2880-2630 BC) - I2a2 - M874014 - Basque
I1277 (2568-2346 BC) - I2a2a

Bronze Age:

ATP9 (1700-1518 BC) - woman - M116706 - Basque

Y-DNA haplogroups and autosomal DNA of Remedello culture Italians:

Sample / (dating) / Y-DNA / GEDmatch kit / Single Pop. Sharing in Eurogenes K15:

RISE487 (3483-3107 BC) - I2a1a1 - T699825 - Sardinian
RISE489 (2908-2578 BC) - I2a1a1a - T135721 - Sardinian
RISE486 (2134-1773 BC) - I2a1a1a - T319214 - Sardinian

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More "Sardinians" from other parts of Ancient Sardinia (pardon, Ancient Europe) to follow later...

Simply SHOCKING !!! "Genetical Sardinians" everywhere. And a few Basques. But no any R1.

[Rethel]

Simply SHOCKING !!! "Genetical Sardinians" everywhere. And a few Basques. But no any R1.

It is not shocking, it is as it supposed to be :)


Are these samples from Sardinia and Baskonia, if
not, it would be nice to add where they are from.

And how these I2bleble are ralated to balkanian brothers?
Becasue as for the first look, it seems, that slavic balkanian theory is done.
Main subclade was everwhere on the West and South, so, I see no reason,
why Balkanites should wait for Slavs and their I2bleble commerades.

[Peterski]

Are these samples from Sardinia

Most of them are from Iberia, and three are from Remedello culture in Northern Italy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remedello_culture

[Pahli]

EHG + CHG slayer wagon cleaned that mess up :laugh:

[LoLeL]

^:fuck_you:

[Harkonnen]

EHG + CHG slayer wagon cleaned that mess up :laugh:

Obviously not all of Europe was Sardinian like before Rietards came. Some Europeans have added WHG ancestry.

[LoLeL]

Obviously not all of Europe was Sardinian like before Rietards came. Some Europeans have added WHG ancestry.

Were WHGs swarthy or light skinned?

[Harkonnen]

Were WHGs swarthy or light skinned?

They were black as fuck, but at least they were not r1etards.

[Rethel]

ATP2 (2899-2678 BC) - H2 - M849224 - Sardinian

Is this native paraGypsy the one from Hungary?

[Rethel]

They were black as fuck

:thumb001:

[Pahli]

Obviously not all of Europe was Sardinian like before Rietards came. Some Europeans have added WHG ancestry.

This is Lithuania around 900 - 500 B.C:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 73.93
2 Indo-Iranian 9.04
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7
4 Mesoamerican 4.68
5 North-Siberean 3.76
6 Austronesian 1.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian (derived) 14.95
2 Latvian (derived) 15.68
3 Lithuanian (derived) 16.78
4 Belarusian (derived) 17.01
5 Russian (derived) 17.42
6 Moldavian (derived) 17.65
7 Russian_North (derived) 18.04
8 Lithuanian_V (derived) 18.24
9 Russian_Center (derived) 18.47
10 Mordovian (derived) 19.39
11 Russian_V (derived) 19.81
12 Polish (derived) 20.31
13 Russian_South (derived) 20.72
14 Russian_cossack (derived) 20.97
15 Ukrainian-East (derived) 21.36
16 Ukrainian (derived) 21.5
17 Vepsa (derived) 21.95
18 Polish_V (derived) 22.12
19 Karelian (derived) 23.2
20 Belarusian_V (derived) 23.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Latvian (derived) + 8.7% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 11.82
2 90.4% Latvian (derived) + 9.6% Kalash (derived) @ 11.93
3 90.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 9.6% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.26
4 89.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 10.6% Kalash (derived) @ 12.31
5 92.9% Estonian (derived) + 7.1% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.47

When I looked on the spreadsheet, the average Lithuanian has 80% North East European, could be an admixed Balto-Slavic individual, since the sample has some CHG.

[Harkonnen]

This is Lithuania around 900 - 500 B.C:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 73.93
2 Indo-Iranian 9.04
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7
4 Mesoamerican 4.68
5 North-Siberean 3.76
6 Austronesian 1.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian (derived) 14.95
2 Latvian (derived) 15.68
3 Lithuanian (derived) 16.78
4 Belarusian (derived) 17.01
5 Russian (derived) 17.42
6 Moldavian (derived) 17.65
7 Russian_North (derived) 18.04
8 Lithuanian_V (derived) 18.24
9 Russian_Center (derived) 18.47
10 Mordovian (derived) 19.39
11 Russian_V (derived) 19.81
12 Polish (derived) 20.31
13 Russian_South (derived) 20.72
14 Russian_cossack (derived) 20.97
15 Ukrainian-East (derived) 21.36
16 Ukrainian (derived) 21.5
17 Vepsa (derived) 21.95
18 Polish_V (derived) 22.12
19 Karelian (derived) 23.2
20 Belarusian_V (derived) 23.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Latvian (derived) + 8.7% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 11.82
2 90.4% Latvian (derived) + 9.6% Kalash (derived) @ 11.93
3 90.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 9.6% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.26
4 89.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 10.6% Kalash (derived) @ 12.31
5 92.9% Estonian (derived) + 7.1% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.47

When I looked on the spreadsheet, the average Lithuanian has 80% North East European, could be an admixed Balto-Slavic individual, since the sample has some CHG.

Wtf is this result? It looks very strange. Anyway to me that result suggest that modern Lithuanian have added WHG compared to that, remember it's Balt+some kind of small Central Asian (ANE rich) component.
Anyway at that time scale that guy should be IE

[Pahli]

Wtf is this result? It looks very strange. Anyway to me that result suggest that modern Lithuanian have added WHG compared to that, remember it's Balt+some kind of small Central Asian (ANE rich) component.
Anyway at that time scale that guy should be IE

Could be a Balto-Slavic individual with native Baltic admixture. Its not strange anyway, its not a native Baltic individual judging from the CHG admixture.

[Rethel]

No i kiedy będzie ciąg dalszy?

[johen]

however, seems like they were speaking Basque language regarding R1b-v88, which is similar to sumerian

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195946-Egyptian-Pharaohs-and-people-believed-in-one-god&p=4086603&highlight=#post4086603

we know very little about pre-Roman language, but for many academics the similiarities between Sardinian and Basque DNA suggest an ancient connection with Basques, this hypothesis is somewhat corroborated by the study of Sardinian place names, in the central area of Sardinia, the area with less external influences, about 30-40% of place names have no meaning in Latin or in modern Sardinian, but they make perfectly sense if compared to Basque language.

Moreover according to ancient fonts Sardinians were divided in 3 main ethnicities, and perhaps they spoke 3 different languages, see map below

According to the hypothesis, the Balares (in Latin) could be related with the megalithic civilization of the Baleares islands, this could be the connection with the Iberian peninsula and with Basques, this people was there before the famous Sardinian Nuragic civilization, the ancient Corsicans instead were perhaps related with Etruscans or ancient Ligurians, both non-IE peoples, the Etruscans were most likely related with the famous Sea Peoples/Pelasgians mentioned by ancient Egyptians, the Iolei (the name is taken by Greek mythology, according to which were related to Iolao brother of Herakles, that according to mythology founded cities and temples in Sardinia), instead we now from Egyptian or Phoenician fonts, that they were named Shardan or Sherdan, other name mentioned among the famous Sea Peoples, and they most likely came from Crete or from the Aegean area, they were perhaps Pelasgians.
This may explain also why Sardinian look can be very heterogeneous if you move from a region of Sardinia to another, with more Mediterranean phenotypes in the south, and less in the north and in the central areas, where there is a majority of light skin phenotypes


“Prehistorically, the Sumerians were not aboriginal to Mesopotamia. Their native hearth is unknown. Speaking an agglutinative tongue showing affinities, on one hand, with the Uralo-Altaic languages (Balto-Finnish, Hungarian, Volgaic, Uralien, Samoyuedic, Turkish, Mongolian, and Eskimo) and, on the other hand, with the Dravidian tounges of India, the Pelasgian of pre-Homeric Greece, Georgian of the Caucasus, and Basque of the Pyrenes, they had arrived apparently c.3500 B.C. to find the river lands already accupied by an advanced Neolithic, farming and cattle-raising population known to science as the Ubaidian (also, Proto-Euphratean), [...].” (Joseph Campbell, The Mythic Dimension, New World Library, 2008, p.122)"

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel must tolerate me.

We've discussed it before, we're family.

R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing. It transcends degeneracy.

[Ülev]

I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel must tolerate me.

We've discussed it before, we're family.

R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing. It transcends degeneracy.


lol

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

lol

When a Tribalism and love for family and blood is so strong that it breaks the shackles of social issues and division you know we are a force to be reckoned with. Above all, blood!

[Rethel]

I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel

Yes, of course.


must tolerate me.

As R1 - yes, but it does not change the thing,
that for your degeneracy we will surely stone you.


We've discussed it before, we're family.

Yes.


R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing.

Yes.


It transcends degeneracy.

Not relevant.

This, that we are in one tribe, cannot change the fact that
you are discusting as long as you stay in your degeneracy,
and the whole R1 tribe has an obligation to burn you alive.

[Ülev]

Yes, of course.



As R1 - yes, but it does not change the thing,
that for your degeneracy we will not stone you.



Yes.



Yes.



Not relevant.

This, that we are in one tribe, cannot change the fact that
you are discusting as long as you stay in your degeneracy,
and the whole R1 tribe has an obligation to burn you alive.


??

https://youtu.be/cWllQeGTaaE?t=9m9s

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Yes, of course.



As R1 - yes, but it does not change the thing,
that for your degeneracy we will not stone you.



Yes.



Yes.



Not relevant.

This, that we are in one tribe, cannot change the fact that
you are discusting as long as you stay in your degeneracy,
and the whole R1 tribe has an obligation to burn you alive.

:[

this is a change in tone from hippie R1ethel of days old. You used to tolerate me entirely.

[Rethel]

this is a change in tone from hippie R1ethel of days old. You used to tolerate me entirely.

When I didn;t know, that you are a pervert.

[Longbowman]

however, seems like they were speaking Basque language regarding R1b-v88, which is similar to sumerian

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195946-Egyptian-Pharaohs-and-people-believed-in-one-god&p=4086603&highlight=#post4086603

Northern Sardinians are Corsicans and Catalans, that's why they're lighter.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

R1b = Masterrace ;)

[Rethel]

R1b = Masterrace ;)

But the thing is, that there was no R1b. :)

[Harkonnen]

:[

this is a change in tone from hippie R1ethel of days old. You used to tolerate me entirely.

You don't need to take this shit from R1ethel. Remember your a glorious R1 too, you have every right to challenge R1ethel for R1 power. Make R1ethel your bitch, make R1 great again!

[Rethel]

You don't need to take this shit from R1ethel. Remember your a glorious R1 too, you have every right to challenge R1ethel for R1 power. Make R1ethel your bitch, make R1 great again!

:laugh:

Very sneaky :laugh:

It is like supporting Obama in making White Race great again... :laugh:

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

You don't need to take this shit from R1ethel. Remember your a glorious R1 too, you have every right to challenge R1ethel for R1 power. Make R1ethel your bitch, make R1 great again!

Being R1 was never about a certain lifestyle or discriminating based on biology (since being transgender or gay or any of these things appears to be more biological than anything). If it was then why would R1ethel not mind a Black R1? He is a hypocrite of the highest degree.

He must be overthrown and replaced with a strong but tolerant leader, one who accepts all R1 regardless of their biology or lifestyle. But also strong-willed and protective of the tribe.

MAKE R1 GREAT AGAIN

AN R1 DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND

FUCK SOCIAL DIVISIVENESS OF THE R1ETHEL CAMPAIGN

R1s ARE STRONGER TOGETHER!!

[Rethel]

If it was then why would R1ethel not mind a Black R1? He is a hypocrite of the highest degree.

:confused:


He must be overthrown and replaced with a strong but tolerant leader, one who accepts all R1 regardless of their biology or lifestyle. But also strong-willed and protective of the tribe.

Did I not say, that I accept you as R1?



AN R1 DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND

R1 must be clean from all perverts. It will make our tribe stronger.
If you wish your tribe well, you should be for the same.

[Peterski]

Yamnaya admixture according to Gedrosia K14:

RISE486 = 0,00%
RISE489 = 2,12%
RISE487 = 3,82%

ATP2 = 0,00%
ATP16 = 2,98%
I1300 = 1,65%
I1281 = 2,98%
I1303 = 5,26%
I1280 = 3,10%
ATP9 = 22,64%

[XenophobicPrussian]

While I'm grateful for the R1ethelites saving Europe from Sardinianness, Scandinavia, the British Isles and Iberia were more Basque like, which isn't too bad. The Baltic states also didn't need the R1ethelites as they managed to keep the Sardinians away, so you kind of screwed them with your unwanted woggy extra CHG and Amerindian, but overall, the R1ethelite invasion was a net positive.

[Peterski]

Ireland was mostly Sardinia as well:

Ballynahatty (3343–3020 BC) - GEDmatch kit M427312

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 43.2
2 Atlantic 32.67
3 North_Sea 8.68
4 East_Med 6.79
5 Red_Sea 3.22
6 Baltic 2.84
7 Northeast_African 1.36
8 Sub-Saharan 0.81
9 Southeast_Asian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 14.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Sardinian + 38.6% French_Basque @ 6.44

[Rethel]

Yamnaya admixture according to Gedrosia K14:

RISE486 = 0,00%
RISE489 = 2,12%
RISE487 = 3,82%

ATP2 = 0,00%
ATP16 = 2,98%
I1300 = 1,65%
I1281 = 2,98%
I1303 = 5,26%
I1280 = 3,10%
ATP9 = 22,64%

No fajnie, tylko co to za literki są?

[Rethel]

While I'm grateful for the R1ethelites saving Europe from Sardinianness,

At least! :)


Scandinavia, the British Isles and Iberia were more Basque like, which isn't too bad. The Baltic states also didn't need the R1ethelites as they managed to keep the Sardinians away,

But they were more primitive than SardoKartveloids...

SkandoEuskaroids:

http://ekonomistyka.blog.pl/files/2012/11/jaskiniowiec.jpg

SardoKartvelians:

http://image.newsdog.today/origin_981fcc9f2e7fcdb831d706ad019e8be1


so you kind of screwed them with your unwanted woggy extra CHG and Amerindian,

I am afrraid, that your liebling ScandoEuskaroids
were more woggy than SardoKartvelians... :pout:


but overall, the R1ethelite invasion was a net positive.

:thumb001:

[de Burgh II]

Then... the R1ethelites of the Steppe Order purged the Neolithic and Hunter-gatherer heretics and cleansed their y-dna souls with R1 in Western-Central Europe....

Thus, the beginning.... of the R1ethelism faith in the name of the Indo-Eur1opean forefather..... :pray: