Taxonomy of Mexico/Mexican Actor/Actresses

[Curtis24]

I have always been interested in the taxonomy of Mexico.

To try to understand Mexico better, I'm going to be uploading pics of nominees for the Ariel Premios, Mexico's version of the Academy Awards. Obviously, this can't be representative of the whole country, but I think it would be interesting to see at least what phenotypes Mexicans like to see in their movies.

Here are the three actresses nominated for best actress in the 2010 awards(I'll upload more later). What phenotypes do you think they have?


Paulina Gaitan:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2eb62ia.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2dabscm.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2je9zbp.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2hcq3cn.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2mzl534.jpg




Teresa Ruiz:
http://i56.tinypic.com/1q1fv4.jpg

(on the left)
http://i52.tinypic.com/28ioupv.png
http://i52.tinypic.com/sphy5g.jpg


Asur Zagada
http://i55.tinypic.com/igjk0p.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/k2cqa8.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/33erlsh.jpg

[Lábaru]

For my eyes look like a typical mix of Amerindian and Ibero-European, Amerindian trait being dominant clearly.

[Curtis24]

Here are the three Mexican actors who were nominated for the Ariel Award for best actor:


Silverio Palacios:
http://i53.tinypic.com/dzury9.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2cxhx6p.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2rfpz7a.jpg


Harold Torres:

(in the blue shirt)
http://i56.tinypic.com/jb7ihc.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/hueybk.jpg


Fernando
http://i51.tinypic.com/b64ok3.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/axzcxk.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2wnb8sm.jpg

[Curtis24]

even though I'm probably the only one who cares at this point, I am deranged enough to keep going. here are the nominees for best actress and best actor for the 2009 Ariel Awards:




Maria Deschamps:
http://i51.tinypic.com/s2coeb.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/4gvi0.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/33jkbq0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/12199ty.jpg


Irene Azuela:
http://i54.tinypic.com/espa29.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/1z1uuk9.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cmmav9.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/r05uyq.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/6hjdyu.jpg



Diego Luna:
http://i51.tinypic.com/72d6w8.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2chnmvr.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/majxbr.jpg



Mario Zaragusa:
http://i51.tinypic.com/a9sa6u.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/14lsdqe.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/24kw10z.jpg



Juan Pablo de Santiago:
http://i51.tinypic.com/dngcw2.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/257nng9.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/12199ty.jpg

(on the far right)
http://i54.tinypic.com/1jxfv5.jpg

[Mordid]

Most of them wouldn't stick out in Spain. :D

[perikolez]

I think that Ariadna Gil is spanish and curiosly has some strange face features for an spaniard. Between the rest, i only know Diego Luna. Only maybe Diego Luna , Irene Azuela and Fernando could pass as spaniard. The rest are clear mestizo. It is curious because most of the mexican telenovelas actors and actress are whites or castizo heavily european, and could pass as spaniards , and it is the same with rest of latinamerican telenovelas dominated by mostly european actors(even in Peru:D).

[Curtis24]

Yes, I thought this odd as well. I had always heard that most Latin American actors, as you say, tend to be more European phenotypically, even if the people of the countries they represent aren't. Yet, most of the actors and actresses I posted(who are nominees for Mexico's equivalent of the Academy Awards), seem to have some Native American heritage.

People seem to relate more to actors/actresses who look like them, I guess.

[Vasconcelos]

Most of them wouldn't stick out in Spain. :D

Most?:confused:

[Curtis24]

Most?:confused:

He's being sarcastic.

Keep in mind, Spanish actors and actresses will sometimes act in Mexican films; thus, if Ariadne Gip is really Spanish, then obviously she's not indicative of the taxonomy of Mexico. Later on, I will post what region of Mexico each actor/actress is from, if I can find the info.

Here are two of the nominees for best actor in 2007, I'm still looking for good pics of the third nominee:

Damian Alcazar
http://i52.tinypic.com/2ah6pv8.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/29f9xlz.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2hdclef.jpg

Armando Hernandez
http://i53.tinypic.com/33zb2ir.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/s5xonl.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/1z15ob6.jpg

Elizabeth Cervantes:
http://i55.tinypic.com/qnqx3p.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/x1j13l.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2w6a3a0.jpg

Sofia Espinosa:
http://i55.tinypic.com/29z1t8j.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/168vj2c.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2pyny2u.jpg

[Curtis24]

Ariadna Gil is indeed Spanish and I've removed her pics from the thread.

It seems like the actual Mexican natives are overwhelmingly mestizo.

[Curtis24]

Nominees for best supporting actress, Ariel Awards 2010:

Angelina Pelaez:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2w2pqmh.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2qkmmpv.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/t8vwyb.jpg


Sonia Couoh:
http://i56.tinypic.com/oaqan4.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/142y3rd.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2r7c9xj.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/n12hyf.jpg

Veronica Langer:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2qjdrft.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/dwdyc5.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/295vcbt.jpg

[Curtis24]

Moving along, best supporting actors for 2010(I could only find pics of two of them):

Enrique Arreola:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2wrn8fn.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/11av802.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/ixqkvm.jpg

Jose Sefami:
http://i56.tinypic.com/23w9oqd.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/f9drfn.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2q363kg.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/mvt5lf.jpg

[Agrippa]

Paulina Gaitan looks mostly Mediterranid-Alpinoid, slight Gypsy and/or Indianid possible.

Teresa Ruiz is Mediterranid-Alpinoid + Zentralid (Istmid?)

Asur Zagada seems to be rather Zentralid (Pueblid), most likely Mediterranid influences.

Silverio Palacios might be rather Alpinoid-Zentralid (Istmid?)

Harold Torres = robust Indianid type.

Fernando = Atlanto-Nordid + Alpinoid, no foreign influences visible.

Armando Hernandez = Pueblid + Mediterranid influences.

Elizabeth Cervantes = pred. Mediterranid.

Sofia Espinosa = Mediterranid with Pueblid.

Angelina Pelaez = pred. Pueblid

Sonia Couoh = pred. Pueblid, slight Mediterranid possible.

Veronica Langer = Nordid-Dinarid-Alpinoid mix, looks Central European, foreign admixture low to non-existent.

[Armand_Duval]

Good thread despite its being kinda old, I think it is worth a bump.


Some other mexican actors, some have not been nominated to the Ariels however it is interesting to see their phenotypes aswell.

From the movie "Miss Bala".

Stephanie Sigman.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mccnn6yvOO1r8hu2ho1_400.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/peliculas/1/0/P/3/-/-/Stephanie_Sigman_7.jpg

http://www.radioformula.com.mx/images/notas/20110907_18_34_StephanieSigman_GF.jpg

Noe Hernández, -the villian-.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Noe+Hernandez+Miss+Bala+Portrait+Session+64th+4FOl jSKCzTsl.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Noe+Hernandez+Miss+Bala+Portrait+Session+64th+qjHc yiTbvFrl.jpg


From the Movie, "Como agua para Chocoloate".

Regina Torné -She's a great actress-

http://cieloalatierra.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/reginatorne.jpg

http://www.xtimechannel.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/regina.jpeg

Lumi Cavazos.

http://www.spanport.ucsb.edu/projects/llcf/films/comoaguaparachocolate/titarosa.jpg

http://www.elporvenir.com.mx/upload/foto/30/0/2/7%20ESPECTACULOS%20Lumi%20Cavazos%20regresa%20al%2 0teatro3.jpg


I'll come back with some more later.


Cheers.

[quaquaraqua]

Nice post I really appreciate it!

[EagleAtHeart]

Here's a Mexican phenotype (non-Actor) I'd like to add so that it can be classified... Saul Canelo Alvarez

http://www.boxingletstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Saul-Alvarez-Canelo1.jpg

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/canelo-alvarez.jpg

[Armand_Duval]

From the movie: "Cosas Insignificantes".


Barbara Mori.

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/barbara_mori/fotos/8901/barbara_mori.jpg

http://www.themakeupgallery.info/images/hair/diy/cosas17.jpg

Paulina Gaitan

http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2008/10/09/fotos/a09n1esp-1_mini.jpg

http://img.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/250/498199.jpg

http://videodromo.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/cosas-insignificantes_05.jpg


From the Movie, "El Tigre de Santa Julia".

Miguel Rodarte.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ghnQrvvtvNw/TRuG_VC5WvI/AAAAAAAAB8Q/9s4vOuKzZtM/s500/miguel-rodarte.jpg

Irán Castillo

http://www.elporvenir.mx/upload/foto/30/7/6/iran-castillo.jpg

Ivonne Montero.

http://digitalgroup.info/images/Montero4.jpg

http://revistacinefagia.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/pajarracos-2.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bk-wO-1564s/Sgzvq4VSnMI/AAAAAAAACVM/qF75FECyNWA/s400/el+tigre+de+santa+julia.jpg

[Armand_Duval]

Here's a Mexican phenotype (non-Actor) I'd like to add so that it can be classified... Saul Canelo Alvarez

http://www.boxingletstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Saul-Alvarez-Canelo1.jpg

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/canelo-alvarez.jpg

Canelo looks like an east baltid phenotype basically, maybe he could have some native input howevere not noticeable IMO.

[Armand_Duval]

From the Movie KM 31

Iliana Fox.

http://img.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/159/316426.jpg

http://pulsoslp.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Kilometro-31-330x350.jpg

http://i78.servimg.com/u/f78/12/48/19/45/km31210.jpg

Raúl Méndez

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/lejana/KM%2031/raul/omarhosp.gif

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNDU0NjM2NjgzMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjgwODAzMQ@@._ V1._SY314_CR78,0,214,314_.jpg

http://closeupmexico.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/elenco-km-31.jpg
Dude on the left isnt mexican, he is a catalonian actor.

[RMuller]

Canelo looks like an east baltid phenotype basically, maybe he could have some native input howevere not noticeable IMO.http://www.boxingletstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Saul-Alvarez-Canelo1.jpg

Lmaoo. How many Baltids settled in Mexico? Basically zero.:picard2: It's obvious by his facial shape and high cheek bones that Canelo Alvarez has Amerindian blood. The Spanish+Amerindian MIX is what is supposely is giving him a 'Baltid' look.

[Silver_Shadow]

An interesting thread with very interesting phenos. It seems like Mexican movies are the opposite of telenovelas in terms of actor's phenotypes.

[Armand_Duval]

Yes because movies tend to portray more the reality.

[Silver_Shadow]

That's true. I could use a lot of these actors to debunk that myth that Mexicans worship the more European phenos or that people with those phenos have it easier in Mexican main stream media.

[Carlito's Way]

Good thread despite its being kinda old, I think it is worth a bump.


Some other mexican actors, some have not been nominated to the Ariels however it is interesting to see their phenotypes aswell.

From the movie "Miss Bala".

Stephanie Sigman.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mccnn6yvOO1r8hu2ho1_400.jpg



:thumb001: very beautiful

[Armand_Duval]

That's true. I could use a lot of these actors to debunk that myth that Mexicans worship the more European phenos or that people with those phenos have it easier in Mexican main stream media.


The next actors are pred amerind and they are actually very aknowleged in Mexico, you may know some of them tho.

Joaquin Cossio.

http://www.rodandocine.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/joaquincossio.jpg

You saw him as General Medrano at Quantum of Solance.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317155243/villains/images/c/ca/General_Medrano.jpg


Adriana Barraza.

You saw her as Amelia at "Babel".

http://www.blogseitb.com/estrenosdecine/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/adriana_barraza.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/movies/1/0/0/u/8/babelpubb.jpg


Gerardo Taracena.

You saw him as Middle Eye at Apocalypto.

http://www.elmanana.com.mx/upload/foto/0/4/2/Gerardo-Taracena.jpg

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2006_Apocalypto/006APC_Gerardo_Taracena_027.jpg

Ernesto Gomez Cruz.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/img/2011/08/Esp/gomezcruzenota.jpg

This guy hasnt worked in Hollywood but he is highly respected in Mexico, his resume is quite impressive, he has been nominated for 8 Ariels as best actor and won five of those 8.

If you are interested on watching one of his films see him at the gore comedy "El Infierno".

http://cafeyteatro.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/infierno_23.jpg


I'll come back with some more later.


Cheers.

[Lemonhead]

Most look Mestizo.

[Joso]

Mainly mestizos and harnizos with some atlanto-meds