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12-15-2016, 09:16 AM
What do you think?
The Denisova cave Neanderthal is allegedly Y-DNA R. That would mean that the specimen is a male. If Neanderthals had haplogroup R, that would push back its antiquity quite considerably.
Of course, it will be claimed that this is contamination -- without any real proof, as has been done before:
https://www.reddit.com/r/genetics/comments/2gt9d2/denisova_cave_neanderthal_was_ydna_haplogroup_r/
The "Neanderthal Romeo, modern human Juliet" theory suggests that Neanderthal males exterminated modern human males, and bred out the leftover modern human females, until everyone outside Africa was a Neanderthal hybrid. This is the proposed solution to the dilemma of non-African TMRCA dates: why non-African Y-DNA has a TMRCA that is roughly as old as the modern human-Neanderthal interbreeding events -- which affected everyone outside Africa.
http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2010/10/26/the-neanderthal-romeo-and-human-juliet-hypothesis/
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Corroborating evidence:
R is proposed as having a Siberian origin. Denisova cave is in Siberia.
Y-DNA R peaks on a per-capita basis in Siberians and Amerindians. South American Amerindians have the strongest genetic ties to Neanderthals. (http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/2016/10/peruvian-amerindians-have-strongest-genetic-ties-to-archaic-hominins/) Yakuts, Mongolians and Chipewyans have 40% more Neanderthal admixture than Polish and German subjects. (http://i.imgur.com/9LF7e3p.jpg)
The estimated time of arrival for Y-DNA R corresponds roughly with the following events:
Levalloisio-Mousterian transitions in Mongolia and Siberia:
https://books.google.com/books?id=iqjGZUxK5tkC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35
The convergence of Levalloisio-Mousterian implements in a modern human occupation site 25,000 years ago in Siberia.
The appearance of a Sinodont mandible with measurements of robusticity within or exceeding the Neanderthal range, at Strashnaya cave, further west in Russia.
A skull of a man who died 20,000 years ago, referred to as the Lishu skull, which exhibits a mosaic of modern and archaic characteristics. (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mmf1ZqFZN7U/T8WqYcwsTsI/AAAAAAAARJU/Z5gLhloDB4M/s1600/Lishu+Skull.jpg)
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Additionally:
The finding of Levalloisio-Mousterian-like flint implements in Canada's Rainbow Mountains, dated to 5,000-6,000 years ago, suggests a Neanderthal presence there.
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The Denisova cave Neanderthal is allegedly Y-DNA R. That would mean that the specimen is a male. If Neanderthals had haplogroup R, that would push back its antiquity quite considerably.
Of course, it will be claimed that this is contamination -- without any real proof, as has been done before:
https://www.reddit.com/r/genetics/comments/2gt9d2/denisova_cave_neanderthal_was_ydna_haplogroup_r/
The "Neanderthal Romeo, modern human Juliet" theory suggests that Neanderthal males exterminated modern human males, and bred out the leftover modern human females, until everyone outside Africa was a Neanderthal hybrid. This is the proposed solution to the dilemma of non-African TMRCA dates: why non-African Y-DNA has a TMRCA that is roughly as old as the modern human-Neanderthal interbreeding events -- which affected everyone outside Africa.
http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2010/10/26/the-neanderthal-romeo-and-human-juliet-hypothesis/
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Corroborating evidence:
R is proposed as having a Siberian origin. Denisova cave is in Siberia.
Y-DNA R peaks on a per-capita basis in Siberians and Amerindians. South American Amerindians have the strongest genetic ties to Neanderthals. (http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/2016/10/peruvian-amerindians-have-strongest-genetic-ties-to-archaic-hominins/) Yakuts, Mongolians and Chipewyans have 40% more Neanderthal admixture than Polish and German subjects. (http://i.imgur.com/9LF7e3p.jpg)
The estimated time of arrival for Y-DNA R corresponds roughly with the following events:
Levalloisio-Mousterian transitions in Mongolia and Siberia:
https://books.google.com/books?id=iqjGZUxK5tkC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35
The convergence of Levalloisio-Mousterian implements in a modern human occupation site 25,000 years ago in Siberia.
The appearance of a Sinodont mandible with measurements of robusticity within or exceeding the Neanderthal range, at Strashnaya cave, further west in Russia.
A skull of a man who died 20,000 years ago, referred to as the Lishu skull, which exhibits a mosaic of modern and archaic characteristics. (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mmf1ZqFZN7U/T8WqYcwsTsI/AAAAAAAARJU/Z5gLhloDB4M/s1600/Lishu+Skull.jpg)
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Additionally:
The finding of Levalloisio-Mousterian-like flint implements in Canada's Rainbow Mountains, dated to 5,000-6,000 years ago, suggests a Neanderthal presence there.
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