Classify Sicilian actor and voice actor Giacomo Zito

[MinervaItalica]

http://www.arteideaeventieservizi.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/GIACOMO-WEB-01.jpg

http://www.intermedia86.com/pages/Casting/book_/upload/2011/11/21/20111121120721-ccba9081.jpg

http://www.amicidellamusicaalbano.it/multimedia/immagini/giacomo-zito.jpg

http://www.anagnia.com/public/articoli/xl/635961009934778256.jpg

[Xacal]

Atlanto-Med

[Sikeliot]

You can post all of the light phenotypes you want but it does not change the genes.

[MinervaItalica]

You can post all of the light phenotypes you want but it does not change the genes.

And you can post all nightclub photos and random genetic data you want, it won't make Sicilian "less European" or more linked with Lebanon.

Now, do you want to classify? Otherwise you're the one who want to derail my thread.

[Tooting Carmen]

You can post all of the light phenotypes you want but it does not change the genes.

LOL are you saying he's light? His skin is quite tanned and his hair dark brown. Anyway, Atlanto-Med.

[LieDetector]

Atlanto-Med

[Sikeliot]

And you can post all nightclub photos and random genetic data you want, it won't make Sicilian "less European" or more linked with Lebanon.

Now, do you want to classify? Otherwise you're the one who want to derail my thread.

Their genetics say they are barely European. Anyway, Atlanto-Med.

[Tooting Carmen]

Their genetics say they are barely European.

They are peripheral Europeans but still cluster within Europe. Cypriots they are not.

[Sikeliot]

They are peripheral Europeans but still cluster within Europe. Cypriots they are not.

Yes. I said this before: Ashkenazim and Sicilians are on the European side of the periphery, while Cypriots and Sephardim are on the opposite side (toward the Middle East). Everyone else is either European or MENA.

[Styrian Mujo]

And you can post all nightclub photos and random genetic data you want, it won't make Sicilian "less European" or more linked with Lebanon.

Now, do you want to classify? Otherwise you're the one who want to derail my thread.

Sicilians are about as European AJ's. They are mostly MENA with maybe about 20%-30% European DNA. Anyway this guy is Mediterranid with minor Nordid and Syrid.

[MinervaItalica]

Sicilians are about as European AJ's. They are mostly MENA with maybe about 20%-30% European DNA. Anyway this guy is Mediterranid with minor Nordid and Syrid.

Stop trolling...

[Sikeliot]

Sicilians are about as European AJ's. They are mostly MENA with maybe about 20%-30% European DNA. Anyway this guy is Mediterranid with minor Nordid and Syrid.

Ashkenazim, Sicilians, Maltese, and southern Italians form a cluster that can be considered intermediate between Europe as a whole, and MENAs.

Anyway the man in the photos looks European.

[Styrian Mujo]

Stop trolling...

I aint trolling here. I mean unless the autosomal DNA for Sicilians is somehow inacurate...

[RN97]

I aint trolling here. I mean unless the autosomal DNA for Sicilians is somehow inacurate...

Are you talking about neolithic farmers?
How are nordics then Europeans if they came from the steppes?
If I would use your logic. What autosomal shows European and non-European?

[Styrian Mujo]

Are you talking about neolithic farmers?
How are nordics then Europeans if they came from the steppes?
If I would use your logic. What autosomal shows European and non-European?
WHG is European I guess.

[MinervaItalica]

Bump. Anyone else want to CLASSIFY?

[Percivalle]

Atlanto-Med

[Danaan]

They are peripheral Europeans but still cluster within Europe. Cypriots they are not.

You aren't either.

[Longobarda]

Sicilians are about as European AJ's. They are mostly MENA with maybe about 20%-30% European DNA. Anyway this guy is Mediterranid with minor Nordid and Syrid.

An European DNA?? Please specify which is the "european DNA"

[Longobarda]

Yes. I said this before: Ashkenazim and Sicilians are on the European side of the periphery, while Cypriots and Sephardim are on the opposite side (toward the Middle East). Everyone else is either European or MENA.

This is YOUR opinion. The opinion of one that has never seen a sicilian in Sicily but only on obituary books of the U.S.

Maybe you are on the martian side of the universe

[Tauromachos]

Bump. Anyone else want to CLASSIFY?

Alpine-Med with some Atlanto

Passes better in the rest of Italy and Corsica than as Jew or Middle Easterner,by far
Doesn 't look Mena at all

[MysteriousWays]

Looks atlanto med from the front. Need more of a profile photo to determine if he may have dinarid influence. Looks very typical for Italian Americans where I'm from.

[Odin]

East-Med + Syrid.

[Percivalle]

East-Med + Syrid.

:lol:

[Newsboy]

Mainly Atlanto-Med

Can pass in Iberia and South Europe in general.

[kleenex]

Seems somewhere between dinaro and alpine med.

[Hamlet]

God damn it I see some Armenoid again. Maybe that's wrong (I'm not even going to bother classifying after my last thread), but to me he definitely isn't Atlanto-Med. Which does he look more similar to?

http://www.arteideaeventieservizi.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/GIACOMO-WEB-01.jpg

http://cdn.blog.hu/em/embartanitipusok/skins/armenidm.jpg

http://b2.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p471863/atlantomedm.jpg

[Bobby Martnen]

Mostly Atlanto-Med. His name literally means "James the Young Bachelor" in English, lol

Please do mine: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?224710-Classify-this-man-and-guess-ethnicity&p=4719113

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes. I said this before: Ashkenazim and Sicilians are on the European side of the periphery, while Cypriots and Sephardim are on the opposite side (toward the Middle East). Everyone else is either European or MENA.

Yes, and Sicilians are slightly closer to Europe than either Peninsular South Italians or Ashkenazis

[Sikeliot]

Yes, and Sicilians are slightly closer to Europe than either Peninsular South Italians or Ashkenazis

Where are people coming up with this? This is only true when comparing Sicily to Calabria. Sicilians plot clearly SOUTH of Abruzzese, Apulians, Lucanians, and Campanians, and are genetically very close to Ashkenazim.

[Bobby Martnen]

Where are people coming up with this? This is only true when comparing Sicily to Calabria. Sicilians plot clearly SOUTH of Abruzzese, Apulians, Lucanians, and Campanians, and are genetically very close to Ashkenazim.

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15V4.png

Sicilians are slightly West of S Italians, and a good deal west of Ashkenazis.

[Sikeliot]

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15V4.png

Sicilians are slightly West of S Italians, and a good deal west of Ashkenazis.

That southern Italian sample is from Calabria. All other mainland southerners would be slightly north of both. Also, that Sicilian sample is from one part of the island only (Trapani) and does not represent the island overall.

[DarknessWin]

WHG is European I guess.

Its not, they both came from near east and the same region

https://i.imgur.com/41aDe8O.jpg

[DarknessWin]

He is not AtlantoMed his nose is a bit dinaroid and short

DinaroMed + Alpine

[Bobby Martnen]

That southern Italian sample is from Calabria. All other mainland southerners would be slightly north of both. Also, that Sicilian sample is from one part of the island only (Trapani) and does not represent the island overall.

Where did you find info on the source of the samples to make that chart? There are some others I'm curious about

[Sikeliot]

Where did you find info on the source of the samples to make that chart? There are some others I'm curious about

I know the person who created Eurogenes and where the samples came from.

[Bobby Martnen]

I know the person who created Eurogenes and where the samples came from.

How different are the Trapanese from the rest of Sicily?

Also, do you know which areas of Germany the West, North, and East Germans on that chart came from?

[Sikeliot]

How different are the Trapanese from the rest of Sicily?

Sicily can be divided into four genetic clusters:

- Northeast Sicily which is identical to Calabria and to Dodecanese people and shifts toward the Caucasus
- Southeast Sicily which shifts toward mainland Greeks (extra NE European/Steppe admixture)
- West-Central Sicily which is where the Levantine and North African input is
- Trapani, which is like west-central only with a moderate western shift (toward Sardinia or Iberia)

[Bobby Martnen]

Sicily can be divided into four genetic clusters:

- Northeast Sicily which is identical to Calabria and to Dodecanese people and shifts toward the Caucasus
- Southeast Sicily which shifts toward mainland Greeks (extra NE European/Steppe admixture)
- West-Central Sicily which is where the Levantine and North African input is
- Trapani, which is like west-central only with a moderate western shift (toward Sardinia or Iberia)

Thanks

So approx. how much of S Euro, MENA, and NW Euro does the average West-Central Sicilian have?

[Sikeliot]

Thanks

So approx. how much of S Euro, MENA, and NW Euro does the average West-Central Sicilian have?

The same amounts as Ashkenazim, but some of them are close to North African Jews instead.

[Bobby Martnen]

The same amounts as Ashkenazim, but some of them are close to North African Jews instead.

Which are?

[OliveOyl]

Atlantid

[Dna8]

http://www.arteideaeventieservizi.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/GIACOMO-WEB-01.jpg

http://www.intermedia86.com/pages/Casting/book_/upload/2011/11/21/20111121120721-ccba9081.jpg

http://www.amicidellamusicaalbano.it/multimedia/immagini/giacomo-zito.jpg

http://www.anagnia.com/public/articoli/xl/635961009934778256.jpg

an almost Caesarean look in the last photo.. if his nose were more Roman, he would remind me of the most famous busts of Caesar