Albanians from Kosovo/Kosovar Albanians phenotypes.

[Arjana]

How do you classify them and where do they pass?

Only groups photos

http://i.imgur.com/UOSTxvn.jpg
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[LieDetector]

Greece, Italy, and Slavic countries

[Arjana]

http://i.imgur.com/tpfw1FK.jpg
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[Arjana]

http://i.imgur.com/qJBPXpg.jpg
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[Arjana]

http://i.imgur.com/7isbSHv.jpg
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[Nurzat]

some of the Albanians in the photos look as white as south Romanians, but they would not pass more to the north than that (would not pass in Central Europe nor in Eastern Europe), but they do seem lighter on average than Bulgarians and Serbs

[averagedude]

where do they pass?

Balkans.

[The.Mask]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_RlYM0jIFM&t=154s

[Herr Abubu]

Overlap with Balkans, Slavs, Italians.

[Ülev]

Tobi said that I look Dralos alike, so hello Albania ;)

[aherne]

There definitely is a lot of overlap with Romanians or Bulgarians. It's obvious these peoples are genetically related...

[brennus dux gallorum]

there are differences from the Albanians of Albania, considering the albanians who immigrated here

[KrashNick]

Dinarids, Pontids, Nordids, Alpinids, Borrebys & some CM admixture.

[Arjana]

there are differences from the Albanians of Albania, considering the albanians who immigrated here

There are some differences, but you have shown to have a limited judgement.

[Arbërori]

Mostly Dinarids, Pontids, Alpinids, Nordids and various mixes of them with CM. Most pass on the Balkans, parts of Italy but also other parts of Europe individualistically.

They are obviously a continuation of Albanians from Albania, but with regional differences it seems.

[brennus dux gallorum]

There are some differences, but you have shown to have a limited judgement.

they are from albania as a whole, so i am not sure about the limited judgement you are talking about

ps if you see a weird reputation ignore it, I have many windows opened together;)

[Arjana]

bump

[Sideritis]

You have posted half of Kosova.

[Lek]

Mostly Slavs and Ashkalis.

[catgeorge]

Lost Serbs

[Lek]

Lost Serbs

Muslim Servs

[catgeorge]

Muslim Servs

To be more exact, yes.

[brennus dux gallorum]

To be more exact, yes.

it's arjana's thread, she is mad about Greeks not being Skiptar like, so better not posting here :D

[Albobalboa]

there are differences from the Albanians of Albania, considering the albanians who immigrated here

What are the differences?

[brennus dux gallorum]

What are the differences?

considering the photos i see here, they look more fair and less dinaric, i would say with less "sharp" features, in a weird way, and more brachy than an average Albanian immigrant from Albania, something like more "balkan borreby", more alpine and more gorid influenced. Also, the percentage of "noric" (not to be confused with nordic) is insignificantly higher

However, I don't know if this sample is accurate, also, the difference is not significant

[Nilotik]

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see much differences between Albanians from Kosovo and Albania. In fact I don't think Tosks e.g. look that different from far northern Ghegs either.
Our regional differences are hugely exaggerated.

[The.Mask]

http://i.imgur.com/lhrYGpB.jpg
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[The.Mask]

http://i.imgur.com/v7SjICK.jpg
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[The.Mask]

http://i.imgur.com/RO5wEf9.jpg
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[Herr Abubu]

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see much differences between Albanians from Kosovo and Albania. In fact I don't think Tosks e.g. look that different from far northern Ghegs either.
Our regional differences are hugely exaggerated.

They're not exaggerated. Go to the South or even just someplace like Tirana and you're pretty much in a different country. Scandinavians look more similar inbetween themselves than Ghegs and Tosks do.

[Lavrentis]

There definitely is a lot of overlap with Romanians or Bulgarians. It's obvious these peoples are genetically related...

I agree with this. There seems to be some common genetical line between Albanians and Romanians, it is probably Paleo-Balkan.

The people on the thread pass in Balkans and Eastern Europe.

[Decius]

some of the Albanians in the photos look as white as south Romanians, but they would not pass more to the north than that (would not pass in Central Europe nor in Eastern Europe), but they do seem lighter on average than Bulgarians and Serbs

Serbs are lighter by hair and eye color, also she cherrypicked photos because shes Albanian

[Lek]

Serbs are lighter by hair and eye color, also she cherrypicked photos because shes Albanian

Just like you and makedirov cherrypick photos

[Decius]

Just like you and makedirov cherrypick photos

Lol true but I don't make threads about it

[KrashNick]

https://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/105163/27/1051632706.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/BRSH_FSK.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2828/11091175585_4a5d8a5024_b.jpg
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https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8101/8488142857_3f30ba4401_b.jpg

[Сербо Макеридов]

Just like you and makedirov cherrypick photos

Good joke. :D

Serbs have more North Euro autosomal DNA, and every nation with more North Euro admixture are lighter on average than nation with less North Euro admixture.

Albanians from Kosovo at K12b have 26,75% North Euro admixture, and Serbs on average have 39,08 and western Serbs (from Bosnia and Croatia) 41,19%.

Look here www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=754.0

Legend

СРБИ - Serbs
Арнаути КиМ - Albanians from Kosovo

[Odin]

Mainly Pontids, Dinarids and some Gorids. Pass in Balkans.

[Lek]

Good joke. :D

Serbs have more North Euro autosomal DNA, and every nation with more North Euro admixture are lighter on average than nation with less North Euro admixture.

Albanians from Kosovo at K12b have 26,75% North Euro admixture, and Serbs on average have 39,08 and western Serbs (from Bosnia and Croatia) 41,19%.

Look here www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=754.0

Legend

СРБИ - Serbs
Арнаути КиМ - Albanians from Kosovo

So youre basically saying youre slavic migrants afterall

[Сербо Макеридов]

So youre basically saying youre slavic migrants afterall

I did not say that.

[Arjana]

Serbs are lighter by hair and eye color, also she cherrypicked photos because shes Albanian

Absolutely no cherry picking here.

Just because servs are mongrels that doesn't mean photos are cherry picked.

[Arjana]

So youre basically saying youre slavic migrants afterall

Actually these gypsies are not slavs but some weird afghan tribes from Kazakhstan that mixed with anything during their arrival in balkans.

[VirilLignac]

Too numerous to be classified.
Mostly Pontids, Dinarids, Alpinids and South-Cromagnids.

[Nikolla]

Too numerous to be classified.
Mostly Pontids, Dinarids, Alpinids and South-Cromagnids.

North Pontids and Nordoid influenced forms are also common among them.

Their average of males goes between 181-183 cm.

[Nikolla]

Actually these gypsies are not slavs but some weird afghan tribes from Kazakhstan that mixed with anything during their arrival in balkans.

It Is true.

Servs are subhumans from Kazakhstan originally that later mixed with slave and banged by avars for centuries before the Romans allowed them to settle as cannon foder against turkic tribes from East.

[Trilecce]

I agree with this. There seems to be some common genetical line between Albanians and Romanians, it is probably Paleo-Balkan.

The people on the thread pass in Balkans and Eastern Europe.

Remember, these are Kosovars. Id make albanians look a lot more southern if i stick to certain regions in Albania.

[North Sea]

tyoical albos

[Roy]

Are they lighter, darker or the same as Albanians from Albania? I know that they are in 99% Gheghs.

[North Sea]

Are they lighter, darker or the same as Albanians from Albania? I know that they are in 99% Gheghs.

The same as other north albanians. There are a certain % of Albos that are quite pale in pigmentation.

[Nurzat]

some of the Albanians in the photos look as white as south Romanians, but they would not pass more to the north than that (would not pass in Central Europe nor in Eastern Europe), but they do seem lighter on average than Bulgarians and Serbs

in the meantime I don't think Romanians (including the ones from the more northern regions) are lighter pigmented on average than Albanians, thinking of the Albanians I saw in Italy. actually Albanians quite often have lighter hair (brown) and lighter eyes (green/hazel)

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

Still don't get the idea of Albanians being non-white, they look pretty average for the balkans.