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Wadaad
12-20-2016, 03:51 AM
How is it that a civilian cameraman hired for a gallery viewing maintain composure enough to pan towards the Assassin? Statements claimed the ambassador was shot from behind atleast 8 times in close range...looks like the casings used were 9mm. Convention says those bullets should pierce thru the man's body and blood should be everywhere, yet there's no blood.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-58586bb0/turbine/la-fg-russian-ambassador-turkey-attacked-20161219


look at the cameraman pan and then calmly set the cam towards the shooter, even warzone cameramen dont have this composure but a man in a galleria has?:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuki7Bs7rA

Turul Karom
12-20-2016, 03:59 AM
Interesting observations. I like that you are analyzing the bullet size. I too found it a bit odd, but stranger things have happened.

Wadaad
12-20-2016, 04:03 AM
The photos look staged as fuck

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/ad_229619854.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&strip=all

Dick
12-20-2016, 04:05 AM
Staged.....

http://www.adpost.com/classifieds/upload/uk/clothing_accessories/uk_clothing_accessories.29049.1.jpg

zhaoyun
12-20-2016, 04:14 AM
I agree that it does feel staged. But I am leaning towards it being a genuine incident.

Wadaad
12-20-2016, 04:58 PM
bump

Gold-Shekel
12-20-2016, 05:03 PM
TBH I think that it's normal that it looks staged as most people's brain can't process something as shocking as this.

It's like when you tell someone that there are world leader who rape children, their brain can't admit it's real so they say it's fake.

If he was shot in the back, the blood was most likely soaked up by the jacket and the fact that he was quite a hefty man probably helped the bullet not piercing through him.

But everything is possible and subject to manipulation.

KMack
12-20-2016, 05:05 PM
After the shooting starts the camera jerks around as I think the cameraman got out of there fast.

Era
12-20-2016, 05:06 PM
He looks so similar to that Greek of Golden Dawn.

Danaan
12-20-2016, 05:07 PM
If that's true what were the motives? You believe that Karlov is alive somewhere?

Wadaad
12-20-2016, 05:08 PM
He looks so similar to that Greek of Golden Dawn.

Is he even ethnic Russian?

Wadaad
12-20-2016, 05:10 PM
If that's true what were the motives? You believe that Karlov is alive somewhere?

I really dont know what could be a motive, but I feel like the whole world's a stage and what we call news is as scripted as a Shakesperean play.

Basically if something makes the 'top stories' of google news, or is 'breaking news' on cnn, bbc, etc...I suspect it immediately.

Era
12-20-2016, 05:11 PM
Is he even ethnic Russian?

Don't know. Look at this, there is blood on the head, he was shot from the back

https://anonmgur.com/up/b3fdf84b80138002183c591648f9b1f7.png

Jehan
12-20-2016, 08:09 PM
I'am not shock by the camera move. I assume the cameraman was focus on the ambassador and didn't see the rest, only what he record. When he understood something was happening he unzoom to a large plan. When he saw the guy with the gun he just leave.
Nothing so much strange there.

As you can see during his speech the murderer is many time out of the camera. There isn't a special focus on him.

al-Bosni
12-21-2016, 04:02 AM
He must have perished instantaneously. With the heart not pumping blood there is less of a puddle.

Queen B
12-21-2016, 05:22 AM
I'm actually not suprised.
Many photographers risk their lives to make the capture of their carrer. Either being in a warzone, in the jungle or in such cases.

I have no idea about guns and mm and all of that, so I can't really comment.

Linebacker
12-21-2016, 06:28 AM
I actually study ballistics as part of my speciality and we have been shown many pictures of people shot in various parts by various guns.

Big ghastly openings with quick pouring blood only get caused by large rifles(like 7.62 WP Ak) using hollow point bullets.

Usually pistol wounds are small with the exit hole being a little bigger than the entry hole and unless an artery is hit most bleeding is internal with only a small amount pouring out that is usually soaked by clothes.

The gunman looked to be using some snub .38 or .22 pistol,preferred by the world's hitmen because they are tidy calibers,they leave minimal damage and there is no blood cloud on exit.I haven't really looked close at exactly what gun he was holding but it has the appearance of a snub H&K or Sig Sauer

davai
12-21-2016, 06:34 AM
Convention says those bullets should pierce thru the man's body and blood should be everywhere, yet there's no blood.

bullets did pierce through, which you can see on the left side of his jacket(his left).

Insuperable
12-21-2016, 07:57 AM
How is it that a civilian cameraman hired for a gallery viewing maintain composure enough to pan towards the Assassin? Statements claimed the ambassador was shot from behind atleast 8 times in close range...looks like the casings used were 9mm. Convention says those bullets should pierce thru the man's body and blood should be everywhere, yet there's no blood.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-58586bb0/turbine/la-fg-russian-ambassador-turkey-attacked-20161219


look at the cameraman pan and then calmly set the cam towards the shooter, even warzone cameramen dont have this composure but a man in a galleria has?:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuki7Bs7rA

The main motive of your suspicion is the assassin yelling 'Allahu Fuckbar' otherwise you would not open this thread. No reason to be surprised. You can't expect much from those whose role model is a warlord, robber, head chopper and pedophile.