Are Türks closer to Bosniaks or Türkmens?

[Böri]

Genetics and all other sides like culture etc. Türkmen peoples if you dont know?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0u0J-uMVo

Who is closer to Türks?

Discuss

[Tooting Carmen]

In between

[Böri]

In between

You must pick one.

[Hadouken]

You must pick one.

türkmen

[nicalandia]

I say Türkmen too.

[Shah-Jehan]

Türkmen

[Myanthropologies]

Definitely Turkmen. The non-Greek balkan ancestry in Turks is over exaggerated. Turks are generally Turkmen + Greek genetically :).

[gültekin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0UsM15TvQY

[Böri]

So everyone agree in fact just say the obvious so Anatolian Türks are closer to west central Asian population than to a Balkan population? What do people still discuss,?

[Pahli]

Türkmen

[Pennywise]

Genetically Anatolian Turks are only closer to Turkmens when compared to Bosniaks. Overall there is a huge genetic difference. To me, culturally and characteristically Bosniaks are closer to Turks than Turkmens.

[Gold-Shekel]

Definately not to closer Bosniaks.

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/images/EuropeHeightDistGrasgruber2014.jpg

[Szegedist]

Türkmens are Türks, and Türks are also Türks, but not all Turks are Türks.

Many non-Türkic Türks aka Turks descent from Bosniaks and other South Slavs. Was there there any recent Türk migration from Türkmenistan to Türkey?

[Myanthropologies]

So everyone agree in fact just say the obvious so Anatolian Türks are closer to west central Asian population than to a Balkan population? What do people still discuss,?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Turks don't have significant Central Asian ancestry, you definitely do. However, you are closer to West Asians genetically than you are to Central Asians. But you're still genetically closer to Central Asians than to Bosniaks, whom you're nowhere near genetically at all.

[Myanthropologies]

Definately not to closer Bosniaks.

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/images/EuropeHeightDistGrasgruber2014.jpg

That chart is weird. Most Turks I've met were taller than Russians and Poles. Russians actually tend to be short, in my experience.

[Antimage]

Definately not to closer Bosniaks.

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/images/EuropeHeightDistGrasgruber2014.jpg

So bosniaks are a dutch-like people?

[Szegedist]

Definately not to closer Bosniaks.

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/images/EuropeHeightDistGrasgruber2014.jpg

Map is wrong for North Albania, the average height there is 195cm +

[Böri]

Definately not to closer Bosniaks.

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/images/EuropeHeightDistGrasgruber2014.jpg

You guys Euro definitely.

[Gold-Shekel]

So bosniaks are a dutch-like people?


More similar to Dutch than to Turks for sure. Dutch people are from Bosniak descent.

[Myanthropologies]

More similar to Dutch than to Turks for sure. Dutch people are from Bosniak descent.

Hmm. I actually think you're in between Turks and Dutch.

[Gold-Shekel]

Hmm. I actually think you're in between Turks and Dutch.

Both are from Bosniak descent, except Turks mixed more with Mongols and Dutch with Germanic people.

[Myanthropologies]

Both are from Bosniak descent, except Turks mixed more with Mongols and Dutch with Germanic people.

On calculators, Turks appear to be half Greek and half Turkmen genetically, they dont really have much to do with Bosniaks.

[Gold-Shekel]

On calculators, Turks appear to be half Greek and half Turkmen genetically, they dont really have much to do with Bosniaks.

Both Greeks and Turkmen are relative to an Old Bosniak tribe, from around Livno, which introduced cheese to the world.

http://shiftbranddesign.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/slike/uvodna/novosti_livanjski_sir_shift_mostar2_0.jpg?itok=-Y-ebkl7


It's one of the only things we know related to the Bosnian pyramids. If you want further information search for Semir Osmanagic.

[Myanthropologies]

Both Greeks and Turkmen are relative to an Old Bosniak tribe, from around Livno, which introduced cheese to the world.

http://shiftbranddesign.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/slike/uvodna/novosti_livanjski_sir_shift_mostar2_0.jpg?itok=-Y-ebkl7


It's one of the only things we know related to the Bosnian pyramids. If you want further information search for Semir Osmanagic.

Lol youre like the Bosniak version of Raine

[Gold-Shekel]

Lol youre like the Bosniak version of Raine

How am I a Bosniak version if Greeks are a Bosniak tribe?

[Danaan]

Closer to Turkmens but no so close to them either.

[Arjana]

Definitely modern turks of Anatolia are culturally more related to Muslim Bosnians. They have the same ' culture ' more or less.


Türkmens are Türks, and Türks are also Türks, but not all Turks are Türks.

Many non-Türkic Türks aka Turks descent from Bosniaks and other South Slavs. Was there there any recent Türk migration from Türkmenistan to Türkey?

Turkmen are turkic people.

Modern turks or the turkish citizens of Anatolia that represent turkish Republic arevvery mixed people and they descend from all the populations of the ottoman empire confirmed also by genetics and culture.

Besides Muslim bosnians and native Anatolians a considerable nr of modern turks descend from Albanians.

That is why they mostly look arabic, Anatolian, Caucasian, balkanic etc.

[Arjana]

Definitely Turkmen. The non-Greek balkan ancestry in Turks is over exaggerated. Turks are generally Turkmen + Greek genetically :).

Modern Greeks actually have influenced very little in the genetic composition of the citizens of the turkish Republic

[user_]

Equidistant but close to Bosnia if you mean how they look.

[Pennywise]

Modern turks or the turkish citizens of Anatolia that represent turkish Republic arevvery mixed people and they descend from all the populations of the ottoman empire confirmed also by genetics and culture.

Oh yeah? I'd like to see those "studies" that allegedly "confirms" Turks are descendeds of all the populations of the former Ottoman Empire.



Besides Muslim bosnians and native Anatolians a considerable nr of modern turks descend from Albanians.

What is the number of Albanians in Turkey today? I stopped counting, is it not 30 million yet? :lol:


That is why they mostly look arabic, Anatolian, Caucasian, balkanic etc.

Arjana/Kastrioti you can be the most retarded member in this forum by far.

[Böri]

Oh yeah? I'd like to see those "studies" that allegedly "confirms" Turks are descendeds of all the populations of the former Ottoman Empire.




What is the number of Albanians in Turkey today? I stopped counting, is it not 30 million yet? :lol:



Arjana/Kastrioti you can be the most retarded member in this forum by far.

Kastrioti14 like to show peoples in Türkey as bastards without origins. If you look at citizenship he is right but OP I mean ethnic Turks.

[aherne]

Definitely to Turkmens, because the dominant element in latter is Middle-Eastern.

[Böri]

Definitely to Turkmens, because the dominant element in latter is Middle-Eastern.
Türkmens are south Eurasian no Mena

[Melki]

Türkmens, I would say. Both peoples speak an Oghuz Turkic language. Across all the Turkic languages spoken in Central Asia, Türkmen is the most simiilar to Turkish. I remember I could even read and understand it. It looks like Turkish with plenty of "w" and "y".

With that being said, the Ottoman Turkish culture was shaped by Middle-East and Europe, whereas the Turkmen culture remained pure Turkic with some Persian and Russian minor influences.
In the recent past, Turkmenistan was a Socialist Soviet Republic with no contact with NATO member Turkey. Mentalities evolved in different way.

Bosnia & Herzegovina was formerly an Ottoman sanjak, and a city like Mostar or Sarajevo's historical center of Baščaršija (derived from Turkish: means "main market") kept a strong Turkish vibe. When I was there, I had the feeling I was somewhere in Eminönü (district of Istanbul) or in Bursa.

[RenaRyuguu]

BOSNIAKS

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Yes

[Bosniensis]

Turks are closer to Bosniaks, cause we along with other Balkanites created modern Turks, we helped them to settle down, otherwise they would still be roaming in Russian steppes.

[Marmara]

To Somalis.

[Synapsid]

To Somalis.

Erdogan thinks so.

[Tauromachos]

Closer to Bosniaks

[PaleoEuropean]

Arabs

[mergen3]

Balkan Turks: Bosniak
Anatolian Turks: Turkmen
If the question was Greek or Turkmen? my answer was Greek

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[Kyp]

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[Kyp]

Balkan Turks: Bosniak
Anatolian Turks: Turkmen
If the question was Greek or Turkmen? my answer was Greek

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Turkmen is my answer:

Distance to: Turk_Central_East
18.56495623 Turkmen_Iran
20.12394345 Turkmens
23.66548964 Greek
26.50579937 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
43.71038664 Bosnian

Distance to: Turk_Central_West
17.90296903 Turkmen_Iran
19.94965664 Turkmens
21.56152824 Greek
24.56266883 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
40.87459847 Bosnian

Not even Northwestern Turks are closer to Greeks

Distance to: Turk_Northwest
17.00564024 Turkmen_Iran
19.85647250 Turkmens
19.98427382 Greek
20.88261957 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
35.91518481 Bosnian

[thenewestmember]

Turkmens

[Smeagol]

Their Arab neighbors.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

[Kamal900]

Their Arab neighbors.

Not really. They cluster the closest to other non-Arab west Asians than to any Arab group including Levantines.

[Smeagol]

Not really. They cluster the closest to other non-Arab west Asians than to any Arab group including Levantines.

But they're closer to Arabs than Bosniaks or Turkmen.

[Synapsid]

Their Arab neighbors.
https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

Turks are west asian plus minor Bracin_N/EEF plus Turkmen

[Bosniensis]

Turks, Albos and Bosniaks are closer through the same wounds through many balkan wars.

[Sora]

Of course Turkmens.

I personally feel no connection to Bosniaks. They're just Muslim Slavs at my eyes...

[samario]

Türkmen.

[Jana]

Closer to Turkmen.

[Thracian]

Genetically, they are closer to me than almost all Turkics including Anatolian Turks. Only Gagauzs are closer to me.

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.02735852 Turkish_Balkans
0.03922165 Gagauz
0.05957014 Serbian
0.06866921 Bosnian
0.06944029 Turkish_Northwest
0.07228758 Turkish_Adana
0.07296139 Turkish_Central
0.07304004 Turkish_Balikesir
0.07336916 Turkish_Kayseri
0.07634236 Turkish_Aydin
0.07636666 Turkish_Southwest
0.08552109 Turkish_North
0.08897625 Turkish_South
0.10007046 Turkish_Trabzon
0.12165953 Tatar_Mishar
0.13726997 Tatar_Kazan
0.15462490 Tatar_Lipka
0.17152208 Turkmen
0.18163598 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23431206 Uzbek
0.27151530 Tatar_Siberian
0.27954500 Nogai
0.28262606 Uygur
0.31208611 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.34475030 Kazakh
0.38613423 Kirghiz
0.53537531 Yakut

[Dušan]

Of course Turkmens.

I personally feel no connection to Bosniaks. They're just Muslim Slavs at my eyes...

Bosniensis will be sad when read this.
He and his people consider your country as their own mother.

[Dušan]

Genetically, they are closer to me than almost all Turkics including Anatolian Turks. Only Gagauzs are closer to me.

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.02735852 Turkish_Balkans
0.03922165 Gagauz
0.05957014 Serbian
0.06866921 Bosnian
0.06944029 Turkish_Northwest
0.07228758 Turkish_Adana
0.07296139 Turkish_Central
0.07304004 Turkish_Balikesir
0.07336916 Turkish_Kayseri
0.07634236 Turkish_Aydin
0.07636666 Turkish_Southwest
0.08552109 Turkish_North
0.08897625 Turkish_South
0.10007046 Turkish_Trabzon
0.12165953 Tatar_Mishar
0.13726997 Tatar_Kazan
0.15462490 Tatar_Lipka
0.17152208 Turkmen
0.18163598 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23431206 Uzbek
0.27151530 Tatar_Siberian
0.27954500 Nogai
0.28262606 Uygur
0.31208611 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.34475030 Kazakh
0.38613423 Kirghiz
0.53537531 Yakut

Interesting. Are you ethnic Turk or Pomak?

[Thracian]

Interesting. Are you ethnic Turk or Pomak?

Our family tree reaches till middle of 1700's and all of the names are Turkish. So, no Pomak ancestry, as far as I know.

[Kaspias]

Interesting. Are you ethnic Turk or Pomak?

I'm one of the Turks who carry highest East Eurasian in the Balkans despite being half Pomak, thanks to my outlier father. Bosnian closer than Turkmen, but things would be different in my father's result :D

Distance to: Kaspias_scaled
0.03264975 Turkish_Balkans
0.04790357 Turkish_Istanbul
0.05108085 Turkish_Northwest
0.05338578 Turkish_Balikesir
0.05540415 Turkish_Southwest
0.05663089 Turkish_Aydin
0.06682264 Gagauz
0.06787116 Turkish_South
0.06832371 Moldavian
0.06970990 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07014354 Bulgarian
0.07263994 Greek_Thrace
0.07385604 Romanian
0.07797620 Macedonian
0.08038126 Montenegrin
0.08126012 Serbian
0.08790418 Bosnian
0.09623080 Croatian
0.14318346 Turkmen
0.15295376 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Anatolian Turks are obviously closer to Turkmens.

[Anaximander]

Definitely Turkmen. The non-Greek balkan ancestry in Turks is over exaggerated. Turks are generally Turkmen + Greek genetically :).

No Greek, Never Grek. turkmen+Anatolian(Phrygian,Lydian,Carian,etc)

[Aileron]

Turkmens off course

[Hapanuwa]

Both are far af to me and not in my top 130