Are Roma Gypsies Caucasians

[Mortimer]

I ask a similar question as Agapetos http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?199977-Are-Armenians-quot-White-quot-Poll! about Armenians but notice my question is not if they are white (because they obviously arent because of their too foreign exotic look and too dark skin) but only if they are caucasian if you ask what is "caucasian" look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Carleton Coon on taxonomy of Gypsies http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI18.htm
Roma Gypsy DNA Study http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2015/10/23/genographic-scientists-trace-the-origins-of-europes-gypsies/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982212012602

http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0960982212012602-gr2.jpg

Pictures/Videos

Here is a gallery with videos, they are a Roma NGO from my hometown (since We are authentic Roma I take them from my hometown how they look like). Please watch the videos.
http://udruzenjeromanb.org.rs/galerije/video

http://www.vijesti.me/media/cache/28/d4/28d4ca077f80c617c6506caf004781df.jpg
http://radio.hrt.hr/data/album/00009412/57541d7038329a33e63c.jpg
http://akimg2.ask.fm/assets/256/857/765/normal/1176341_298643933611820_2121307125_n.jpg
https://www.google.at/search?q=romkinje&biw=1600&bih=794&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjgnpXx-bHRAhVKlxQKHTrgBu8Q_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=romi&imgdii=w7oi-hgIttVOnM%3A%3Bw7oi-hgIttVOnM%3A%3BJAiJ0VV0Hi_ngM%3A&imgrc=w7oi-hgIttVOnM%3A
http://www.novosti.rs/upload/images/2015//09/25n/dru-romi-najsiromasniji.jpg
http://www.romskiportal.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Ljudi%20smo,%20nismo%20cigani-%20Braca%20Selman%20iz%20Bihaca%20su%20talentovani %20akademski%20slikari/150910021.22_xl.jpg
https://www.srbijadanas.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_article_image/public/367/vencanje-romi.jpg

[Myanthropologies]

Yes

[Mortimer]

anyone else, when I first registered the opinion was widespread that gypsies are significantly weddoid, Agrippa said they are more weddoid then upper caste indians.

[Purohit ji]

anyone else, when I first registered the opinion was widespread that gypsies are significantly weddoid, Agrippa said they are more weddoid then upper caste indians.

People have false idea of how. Upper caste indians look
99 % of them look just indian

[Mortimer]

People have false idea of how. Upper caste indians look
99 % of them look just indian

I believe that india is majority caucasoid. Obviously we all have ASI, but I still think we belong to caucasoid except some tribals like paniya are questionable

[Purohit ji]

I believe that india is majority caucasoid. Obviously we all have ASI, but I still think we belong to caucasoid except some tribals like paniya are questionable

No i think indians are race of their own. Indid race. We are not a new world.

[Mortimer]

No i think indians are race of their own. Indid race. We are not a new world.

could be, they count as usually as seperate nowadays, caucasoid is europe+mena india stands outside

[Purohit ji]

could be, they count as usually as seperate nowadays, caucasoid is europe+mena india stands outside

But even among them i only consider some west asian and some south Europeans to be of same race.
Majority of middle east and north Europe looks like different race to me.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/12/29/1293650817649/Israeli-Arabs-chant-Islam-007.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/3738b65128292735be015691e4638bcc/tumblr_inline_mt10jarUs81r1mels.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/mj61eg.jpg

[catgeorge]

Just Indian

[Mortimer]

Just Indian

Did you say that from a position of disdain? Just curious

[catgeorge]

Did you say that from a position of disdain? Just curious

If Indians are Caucasoids so then are Iranians... don't think so.

[Mortimer]

If Indians are Caucasoids so then are Iranians... don't think so.

What do you mean?

[catgeorge]

What do you mean?

It means gypsies are Indian and not Caucasian... perhaps one day you will respect this.

[Mortimer]

It means gypsies are Indian and not Caucasian... perhaps one day you will respect this.

and who is caucasian to you? europeans+mena?

[catgeorge]

and who is caucasian to you? europeans+mena?

Caucasian
kɔːˈkeɪʒən,kɔːˈkeɪzɪən/
noun
plural noun: Caucasians
1.
a person of European origin.

[Mortimer]

Caucasian
kɔːˈkeɪʒən,kɔːˈkeɪzɪən/
noun
plural noun: Caucasians
1.
a person of European origin.

thats not what I asked, caucasian is not exclusive to europe. But whatever, I see you have a another definition here, probably because its about gypsies, you wouldnt mistake the question if a lebanese asked.

[catgeorge]

thats not what I asked, caucasian is not exclusive to europe. But whatever, I see you have a another definition here, probably because its about gypsies, you wouldnt mistake the question if a lebanese asked.

Yes I would, they're Arabs. Maybe in 1,000 years.. if Cuman chinks of Balkasia are 'European" today then who knows.

http://www.nndb.com/people/355/000028271/lg-b020311f-med.jpg

[Mortimer]

Yes I would, they're Arabs. Maybe in 1,000 years.. if Cuman chinks of Balkasia are 'European" today then who knows.

http://www.nndb.com/people/355/000028271/lg-b020311f-med.jpg

arabs are caucasians. arabid is caucasian. and india is diverse, some indians are caucasians, and gypsies originated in india and have often a look which could be mistaken for indian, but i dont consider them "indian".

[catgeorge]

arabs are caucasians. arabid is caucasian. and india is diverse, some indians are caucasians, and gypsies originated in india and have often a look which could be mistaken for indian, but i dont consider them "indian".

If you are so dogmatic then why do you ask for others opinions?

[Bobby Martnen]

They're Caucasoid, I don't really consider most of them "White". (I see them as mixed race, but I think they belong in Europe)

I see you as mostly White (IIRC you're about 2/3 genetically)

[Fractal]

No i think indians are race of their own. Indid race. We are not a new world.

Precisely.

[CertifiedCracker]

If you have to ask, no. Same thing with Greeks and Spanish folks.

[Fractal]

If you have to ask, no. Same thing with Greeks and Spanish folks.

The funniest is these Southern Euro and plumber Slavic groups constantly using Gypsy as an insult, as if anyone in the USA has negative sentiments towards them.

They aren't present here, so they are irrelevant to anyone living in the USA.

[Fractal]

If Indians are Caucasoids so then are Iranians... don't think so.

No one cares about "Caucasoid".

You Greeks and Spaniards are hardly even seen as relevant White groups in the USA, while Indians being their own race not- associated with Caucasians definitely are.

[catgeorge]

No one cares about "Caucasoid".

You Greeks and Spaniards are hardly even seen as relevant White groups in the USA, while Indians being their own race definitely are.

You quoted me? You don't have a job nor a qualification - I don't mingle with uneducated black people.

[Fractal]

You quoted me? You don't have a job nor a qualification - I don't mingle with uneducated black people.

Indians don't mingle with Gyro restaurant owners across the street from Microsoft. Your point?

[RN97]

But even among them i only consider some west asian and some south Europeans to be of same race.
Majority of middle east and north Europe looks like different race to me.
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You cherrypicked here, however a lot of ME and NA have loads of non-caucasoid admixture so it's not wonder that it's hard to consider them the same race. However let's just look at three groups.
1. Lebanese
https://i.imgur.com/m70c6zK.jpg
2. Norwegians
https://i.imgur.com/Uydpny7.jpg
3. Sicilians
https://i.imgur.com/ugZcgHx.jpg

It's not hard to see why they've been classified as the same race when you throw in a average Indian or Turkmen. Both of whom are pred. caucasoid, but have some admixture from a groups that makes them look quite different. This is only what usually is the scientific standard. Europeans usually form a race of their own IRL (this is not totally un-scientific), but the problem is that the genetic diversity among Europeans is too small to justify the other races like east Asian, Black etc. That's why globally it's more correct to throw in all west Eurasians in one groups (the ones with little to no non-caucasoid).

[Gangrel]

Caucasian
kɔːˈkeɪʒən,kɔːˈkeɪzɪən/
noun
plural noun: Caucasians
1.
a person of European origin.

Man from Greece using the fake meaning to Caucasian. Fucking retard lol

[CertifiedCracker]

The funniest is these Southern Euro and plumber Slavic groups constantly using Gypsy as an insult, as if anyone in the USA has negative sentiments towards them.

They aren't present here, so they are irrelevant to anyone living in the USA.

I mean its true. No one cares about where your family is from here.

[Vigilance]

I believe that india is majority caucasoid. Obviously we all have ASI, but I still think we belong to caucasoid except some tribals like paniya are questionable

Its about the subraces of the various racial elements.

There is Weddoid influence even in the North. Saw some Delhi kids which looked borderline South Indian Indid-Weddid mixes. But on average it is significantly lower than in the South. So some North Indians look like imperfect Caucasoids.

South Indians depends on caste and region. But yes there is Indid influence even in the South, even in the lower castes, and its probably very ancient.

South Indians are highly variable. Kerala and Karnataka has racial elements completely absent in Tamil Nadu for the most part f.e. the Nayathara Alpinoid~Indo Brachid type, no Tamil has that admixture, their Brachy components are different.

this one is a more exotic type and looks even less similar to Euro Brachies than other Tamil brachies.

http://www.moviemaxima.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/nayanthara1.jpg

It could be that some superficially Aryan-ish looking Indians are just more progressive local types with no real European Caucasoid admixture.

European Caucasoids have their own look, more mature/stronger/heavier looking, usually but not all of course, clean cut features though some Gracile Indids can have very pronounced/specialized features as well.

Theres also a possibility of re-selection like in Ethiopians/Somalis. All these factors make it extremely difficult to classify Indians with precision.