Which of these two actresses would look more typical for Cuba?

[Tooting Carmen]

Kate Ritchie, White Australian actress
http://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/kate-ritchie.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SkZh6sYx_ew/SlaRwaTryaI/AAAAAAAAAVo/9RyIkZD4nGo/s400/kate%25252Brichie.jpg

Brandy Norwood, African-American actress
https://s3.amazonaws.com/tm-photos-production/101240.jpghttp://thirstyroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Brandy+2.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Brandy. I am telling you, Cuba today is heavily Afro-Cuban and a lot of them look VERY African. I don't trust all of the "studies" on Cuba posted on here. All you need to do is go there and look with your own eyes. A friend of mine just got back from vacation there and was shocked how many very dark, African-looking black people there were, she expected them to "look Spanish" :lol:

[Tooting Carmen]

Brandy. I am telling you, Cuba today is heavily Afro-Cuban and a lot of them look VERY African. I don't trust all of the "studies" on Cuba posted on here. All you need to do is go there and look with your own eyes. A friend of mine just got back from vacation there and was shocked how many very dark, African-looking black people there were, she expected them to "look Spanish" :lol:

On the other hand, most Cuban-Americans are White aren't they? (Or at least about half of them).

[Bell Beaker]

Brandy. I am telling you, Cuba today is heavily Afro-Cuban and a lot of them look VERY African. I don't trust all of the "studies" on Cuba posted on here. All you need to do is go there and look with your own eyes. A friend of mine just got back from vacation there and was shocked how many very dark, African-looking black people there were, she expected them to "look Spanish" :lol:

Havana is very black from what I know, it's the main touristic destination as well.

[Sikeliot]

On the other hand, most Cuban-Americans are White aren't they? (Or at least about half of them).

Yes. White flight happened.

This is what the people look like via google search in Havana:


http://previews.123rf.com/images/macmonican/macmonican1402/macmonican140200204/25693618-HAVANA-CUBA-MAY-5-2009-People-walking-on-a-crowded-street-in-Havana-Cuba-on-May-5th-2009--Stock-Photo.jpg
http://m6.i.pbase.com/o4/57/566457/1/122454106.ejEcLcjS.CubaHavanaPeopleBKlippFeb201012 3as.JPG
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/f-cuspies-a-20141219.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/videos/people-sitting-on-wall-of-malecon-boulevard-havana-city-havana-cuba-video-id107431063?s=640x640
http://www.nanmelville.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Cuba_people_012_fw1.jpg
http://viiphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/02PAG20150414D1984-_1200x800-1072x714.jpg
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060810/060810_havana_hmed_1230p.grid-6x2.jpg

[Newsboy]

Brandy Norwood nowadays

[Bell Beaker]

Yes. White flight happened.

This is what the people look like via google search in Havana:


http://previews.123rf.com/images/macmonican/macmonican1402/macmonican140200204/25693618-HAVANA-CUBA-MAY-5-2009-People-walking-on-a-crowded-street-in-Havana-Cuba-on-May-5th-2009--Stock-Photo.jpg
http://m6.i.pbase.com/o4/57/566457/1/122454106.ejEcLcjS.CubaHavanaPeopleBKlippFeb201012 3as.JPG
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/f-cuspies-a-20141219.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/videos/people-sitting-on-wall-of-malecon-boulevard-havana-city-havana-cuba-video-id107431063?s=640x640
http://www.nanmelville.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Cuba_people_012_fw1.jpg
http://viiphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/02PAG20150414D1984-_1200x800-1072x714.jpg
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060810/060810_havana_hmed_1230p.grid-6x2.jpg

Not even a third of all cubans live in Havana, though......

[Incal]

Both.

[Ülev]

Cuba's population is multiethnic, reflecting its complex colonial origins. Intermarriage between diverse groups is widespread, and consequently there is some discrepancy in reports of the country's racial composition: whereas the Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies at the University of Miami determined that 62% of Cubans are black,[224] the 2002 Cuban census found that a similar proportion of the population, 65.05%, was white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba#Demographics

[Dominicanese]

^^ argh ^^

iv been to cuba 3 times, the first time was when i was little on the little league baseball Dominican team and traveled to cuba to play against some of their little league teams, and the other 2 times was with a friend who is cuban and stayed in his family's house and also with my ex.

cuba is 37% white, 34% mulatto, 28% black, 1% asian

[Tooting Carmen]

^^ argh ^^

iv been to cuba 3 times, the first time was when i was little on the little league baseball Dominican team and traveled to cuba to play against some of their little league teams, and the other 2 times was with a friend who is cuban and stayed in his family's house and also with my ex.

cuba is 37% white, 34% mulatto, 28% black, 1% asian

How common are either of their phenotypes for the DR, out of curiosity?

[Dominicanese]

How common are either of their phenotypes for the DR, out of curiosity?

Kate Ritchie would be no more than 3%, she's too pure Euro

and Brandy Norwood around or close to 80%

but Brandy has an African face that is not seen much in DR, possibly due to her specific African ethnic ancestry, her face is more common in Cuba iv seen cubans that look like her. but ifr we'er talking about her Blackness then 80% of Dominicans

[Sikeliot]

but Brandy has an African face that is not seen much in DR, possibly due to her specific African ethnic ancestry

She looks Beninese.

[Sikeliot]

but Brandy has an African face that is not seen much in DR, possibly due to her specific African ethnic ancestry

She looks Beninese. Some Dominicans can but I think Dominicans have a lot of Senegambian influence that is lacking in Cuba.

[Shah-Jehan]

katie, thought cubans were predominantly white.

[bozkur]

Both but more the second

[Dominicanese]

She looks Beninese.

i was thinking she looked a little more Liberianish mixed with something else, likely Beninese

a lot of African Americans show Kpelle influences or Mande or Mandinka

liberian women
http://www.focusonland.com/silo/images/ccile-ndjebet_310x325.gif
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Africa/3819722919_75a9f3bbe2.jpg
http://gambiahotels.gm/gha/images/general/Smiling-face.jpg
http://www.leparisien.fr/images/2011/10/28/1690872_miss-picardie009.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

i was thinking she looked a little more Liberianish mixed with something else

a lot of African Americans show Kpelle influences or Mande or Mandinka

Yeah, I think African Americans often look distinct even from other NWBs let alone Blacks from Africa proper. Someone like Tina Turner or the late Whitney Houston I'd never confuse for anything other than Afro-American.

[Tietar]

^^ argh ^^

iv been to cuba 3 times, the first time was when i was little on the little league baseball Dominican team and traveled to cuba to play against some of their little league teams, and the other 2 times was with a friend who is cuban and stayed in his family's house and also with my ex.

cuba is 37% white, 34% mulatto, 28% black, 1% asian

That is impossible to determine a percentage, most white are not pure white or black pure black

Cuba is basically like this

http://www.etereaestudios.com/training_img/image_edit_tips/curvas/linear_01.jpg


https://miradasencontradas.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/2.jpg

http://static.t13.cl/images/sizes/1200x675/1444941963-cuban-soldiers-march-duri-030.jpg

[Dominicanese]

That is impossible to determine a percentage, most white are not pure white or black pure black

Cuba is basically like this

http://www.etereaestudios.com/training_img/image_edit_tips/curvas/linear_01.jpg


https://miradasencontradas.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/2.jpg

http://static.t13.cl/images/sizes/1200x675/1444941963-cuban-soldiers-march-duri-030.jpg

i already know this and its quite obvious but the white category is people who are 85%+ European

like iv said previously, you expect me to go into tiny specific detail about percentages of people who are mixed in a certain way? nah

keep it simple oh and btw, that photo belongs in the 34% category, cuba still has more whites than blacks, thing is people always rely on street visuals and hotel workers, instead of going local like i did (malls, villages/towns, cities, stores, offices, schools, colleges/universities), some say white cubans form about 40% of cuba and id say thats not far from the truth

[Carlito's Way]

both

[Fincher]

Food for thought:

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/file?type=large&id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004488.g001

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004488

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Odin]

Both.