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Peterski
01-27-2017, 03:20 PM
Riverbed of Bug is gradually moving eastwards, due to which Poland is slowly expanding at the cost of Ukraine. According to Ukrainian scientists, you are losing several dozen square km each year: :cool:

http://img6.demotywatoryfb.pl//uploads/201701/1485456286_gim1jt_600.jpg

Antimage
01-27-2017, 03:21 PM
Once you will reclaim Kresy

dog_eat_dog
01-28-2017, 08:49 AM
Ukraine should be divided between Russia and Poland anyway.

Porn Master
01-28-2017, 09:03 AM
Ukraine should be divided between Russia and Poland anyway.



Poland should be divided between Germany and Belarus? :dunno:

dog_eat_dog
01-28-2017, 09:21 AM
Poland should be divided between Germany and Belarus? :dunno:
Naah, but I think East-Germany should join Poland, they have more common with poles than "muslim dick sucking west-germans"

Ülev
01-28-2017, 09:25 AM
Naah, but I think East-Germany should join Poland, they have more common with poles than "muslim dick sucking west-germans"

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes_Sorabicus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbian_March

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Germanische_und_slavische_Volksstaemme_zwischen_El be_und_Weichsel.jpg

Porn Master
01-28-2017, 09:29 AM
Naah, but I think East-Germany should join Poland, they have more common with poles than "muslim dick sucking west-germans"



naaaaahh I think otherwise bro. Here is more better option East Poland for Russian and west Poland for East Germany

Ülev
01-28-2017, 09:32 AM
naaaaahh I think otherwise bro. Here is more better option East Poland for Russian and west Poland for East Germany

Smoleńsk był najbardziej na wschód wysuniętym miastem wojewódzkim w I Rzeczypospolitej. / Smolensk was the easternmost county town in the Kingdom of Poland.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smole%C5%84sk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_%281619%29_compared_with_t oday%27s_borders_PL.png

Porn Master
01-28-2017, 09:34 AM
Smoleńsk był najbardziej na wschód wysuniętym miastem wojewódzkim w I Rzeczypospolitej. / Smolensk was the easternmost county town in the Kingdom of Poland.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smole%C5%84sk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_%281619%29_compared_with_t oday%27s_borders_PL.png





So? East Poland belonged to Russia :laugh:



http://blog.ancestorcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/RussiaMap.jpg

dog_eat_dog
01-28-2017, 09:38 AM
I would like to see 2 strong and big countries in East-Europe: catholic West-Slavia and Orthodox East-Slavia.

Ülev
01-28-2017, 09:50 AM
So? East Poland belonged to Russia :laugh:



http://blog.ancestorcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/RussiaMap.jpg

this is much better:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/EU_diplomatic_missions.svg

than soviet sovkhozes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovkhoz)

Rethel
01-28-2017, 12:24 PM
Kyjew it was a first polish city:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Europe_814.svg/800px-Europe_814.svg.png

Ülev
01-28-2017, 12:26 PM
^^ but Khazars took it :(

Rethel
01-28-2017, 12:31 PM
^^ but Khazars took it :(

So they had to fly.
But the day of wrath was coming soon... in 1018...

ЛыSSый
01-28-2017, 01:30 PM
Riverbed of Bug is gradually moving eastwards, due to which Poland is slowly expanding at the cost of Ukraine. According to Ukrainian scientists, you are losing several dozen square km each year: :cool: it's well known fact that polish border guards ewery night try to re-dig boundary posts.

Bobby Martnen
02-13-2018, 01:31 AM
The Ukraine stole land from Poland, Rumania, and Slovakia. Hopefully it will all be returned some day.

Mingle
02-13-2018, 01:33 AM
The Ukraine stole land from Poland, Rumania, and Slovakia. Hopefully it will all be returned some day.

It stealing land from Poland is debatable since the land was originally East Slavic before it was Polish.

Zakarpattiya was always East Slavic majority and never Slovak. It was given back to Ukraine in a mutual agreement between the two countries and Slovaks don't want the land.

I'm surprised you didn't say Ukraine should be part of Russia :rolleyes:

Bobby Martnen
02-13-2018, 01:36 AM
It stealing land from Poland is debatable since the land was originally East Slavic before it was Polish.

Zakarpattiya was always East Slavic majority and never Slovak. It was given back to Ukraine in a mutual agreement between the two countries and Slovaks don't want the land.

I'm surprised you didn't say Ukraine should be part of Russia :rolleyes:

Lemberg (Lwow/Lvov) was always Polish majority, and should never have been taken from Poland.

Trans-Carpathia was mixed, and it was taken under duress by Stalin - Slovaks didn't really wanna give it up.

Ukrainians are an invention of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, as an attempt to divide Russians.

Mingle
02-13-2018, 02:21 AM
Lemberg (Lwow/Lvov) was always Polish majority, and should never have been taken from Poland.

Trans-Carpathia was mixed, and it was taken under duress by Stalin - Slovaks didn't really wanna give it up.

Ukrainians are an invention of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, as an attempt to divide Russians.

Lemberg was East Slav majority originally. The first Poles there were refugees.

Transcarpathia wasn't mixed. It was overwhelmingly Ukrainian majority with a small Hungarian minority. Slovaks were never close to being a significant minority there. There are even more Romanians and Russians than Slovaks there.

Do you think Ukraine should be part of Russia then?

Bobby Martnen
02-13-2018, 02:30 AM
Lemberg was East Slav majority originally. The first Poles there were refugees.

Transcarpathia wasn't mixed. It was overwhelmingly Ukrainian majority with a small Hungarian minority. Slovaks were never close to being a significant minority there. There are even more Romanians and Russians than Slovaks there.

Do you think Ukraine should be part of Russia then?

You're Pashtun why are you so pro-Ukraine?

Lemberg was overwhelmingly Polish in 1939, and Poles are the ones who developed the city into something great - just like the rest of the Kresy.

Slovakia needed the land to grow into, and the Ukrainians could have been moved to the Ukraine proper.

I don't think the Ukraine should be a part of Russia.

Mingle
02-13-2018, 02:54 AM
You're Pashtun why are you so pro-Ukraine?

Lemberg was overwhelmingly Polish in 1939, and Poles are the ones who developed the city into something great - just like the rest of the Kresy.

Slovakia needed the land to grow into, and the Ukrainians could have been moved to the Ukraine proper.

I don't think the Ukraine should be a part of Russia.

I don't see myself as pro-Ukraine. I just don't support those specific territorial claims being made against them. I don't contest Romania's claims to Northern Bukovina or Bujak.

Slovaks have no strong historical ties or whatever to Transcarpathia. That's why today Slovaks aren't even 1% of the population and there are way more Hungarians there. Why does Slovakia need Ukrainian land to grow into?? They aren't overpopulated or anything.

Lemberg was Polish majority until not too long ago, but it was East Slavic first. Poland can try to claim the land on the grounds of it being a sacred part of Polish history or that Poles developed the city (not that Ukrainians wouldn't have stronger claims but whatever) though, but not on tje grounds of founding the city or being there first. Lemberg only became Polish majority after Polish colonization.

Why don't you think Ukraine should become part of Russia?

Bobby Martnen
02-13-2018, 03:10 AM
I don't see myself as pro-Ukraine. I just don't support those specific territorial claims being made against them. I don't contest Romania's claims to Northern Bukovina or Bujak.

Slovaks have no strong historical ties or whatever to Transcarpathia. That's why today Slovaks aren't even 1% of the population and there are way more Hungarians there. Why does Slovakia need Ukrainian land to grow into?? They aren't overpopulated or anything.

Lemberg was Polish majority until not too long ago, but it was East Slavic first. Poland can try to claim the land on the grounds of it being a sacred part of Polish history or that Poles developed the city (not that Ukrainians wouldn't have stronger claims but whatever) though, but not on tje grounds of founding the city or being there first. Lemberg only became Polish majority after Polish colonization.

Why don't you think Ukraine should become part of Russia?

Who cares if East Slavic tribes lived in the area first? Lemberg was developed into what it is by Poles, it's rightfully theirs.

I don't really care about the Ukraine one way or another, so I don't care if they become part of Russia, ergo I don't think they should become part of Russia but I also don't think they shouldn't.

Mingle
02-13-2018, 03:15 AM
Who cares if East Slavic tribes lived in the area first? Lemberg was developed into what it is by Poles, it's rightfully theirs.

I don't really care about the Ukraine one way or another, so I don't care if they become part of Russia, ergo I don't think they should become part of Russia but I also don't think they shouldn't.East Slavic tribes didn't just dwell the area but they founded the city and it was part of Kievan Rus'.

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Bobby Martnen
02-13-2018, 03:19 AM
East Slavic tribes didn't just dwell the area but they founded the city and it was part of Kievan Rus'.

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The Poles are the ones who developed the city. Just because East Slavs built a few buildings doesn't mean it's their city.