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Loki
10-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Gold bullion – coming soon to a vending machine near you (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/21/gold-bullion-vending-machines)

German inventor Thomas Geissler launches network of 'gold-to-go' machines

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Apart from the gold-plated exterior – and the fact that they are bulletproof – they seem much like any other vending machine. But instead of condoms or chocolate bars, a network of "gold-to-go" machines dispenses 24-carat bullion in a smart presentation box.

Originally designed as a marketing device for an online gold trading business, the machines have become such a success that their inventor plans to build a global network, installing them everywhere from fitness centres to cruise ships.

Thomas Geissler, the German businessman behind the machines, said their unexpected success was the result of a recent rush on gold, which has seen its price rise from $250 an ounce in 1999 and $800 dollars last summer to around $1,350 (£850) an ounce today.

"Ordinary people are starting to see its real value," he said .

Since the first was installed in May, in the lobby of Abu Dhabi's Emirates Palace hotel, 20 gold-to-go machines have been installed across Europe. Germany already has eight, with a ninth due to open at a luxury shopping centre in Berlin today. Next month the first machines will open in the United States, in Las Vegas and Boca Raton, Florida.

Geissler is also meeting representatives of Harrods to discuss launching the first UK machine in the next few months. He plans to have launched 45 worldwide by the end of the year.
[Since publication of this article, Harrods has said no meetings with Geissler are scheduled.]

"Our customers are those who are catching on to the idea that gold is a safe haven at a time of financial instability," he said. Those who say it is just a bubble, he insists, tend to be those who have not invested in it.

"We notice the sales peak whenever there are signs that the markets are wobbling. When the Greek crisis was revealed in its entirety, our sales went up 10-fold. With the current troubles in currency markets, gold becomes even more attractive."

He said it was no accident that the machines have taken off so well in Germany: "Just look at history," he said. "Germans are still traumatised by the hyperinflation of the 1930s, when people walked around with wheelbarrows full of notes, while Americans are still traumatised about the depression."

He said most vending-machine customers were women, who tended to buy in smaller amounts, while the larger pieces — it is possible to buy up to 250 grams for around €8,000 — are bought by "well-off men, of on average 55 years of age".

The machines are monitored from Geissler's company headquarters in Reutlingen, Germany, and the price of the gold is updated every 10 minutes, according to the market price. The company claims its gold is cheaper than that available from the banks, largely because its overheads are lower, and that unlike at a bank, where customers have to wait several days for their purchases, the machine gold is available immediately.

Eldritch
10-22-2010, 11:20 PM
This is one of those utterly absurd ideas that nevertheless appear to take off. I don't really see the point except as a novelty for the wealthy, but well, what the heck. :shrug:

julie
10-22-2010, 11:27 PM
good thing here

Groenewolf
10-23-2010, 03:24 AM
Wonder when some criminal finds a way to crack it.

The Lawspeaker
10-23-2010, 03:29 AM
Wonder when some criminal finds a way to crack it.
Yap. Maybe we should spend some time on this project. There are some riches hidden in that wall. :thumb001:
In a time where the rich are criminals then why should we not follow their example ? ;)

Eldritch
10-23-2010, 10:24 AM
Well, I would think that is not a huge issue. I mean, there are ATM's around most city corners now, and their contents can immediately be exchanged for alcohol and drugs, with no need of a fence or middleman. Yet you don't hear of people raiding them that often.

RoyBatty
10-23-2010, 10:32 AM
I don't care for this idea. Transactions will naturally be electronic. There will be an auditable trail leading straight to your front door. The Feds will know exactly how much you bought, where you live etc, the day they come to confiscate your supposed "property".

It's much more sensible to walk to the Gold Exchange and pay CASH.

RoyBatty
10-23-2010, 02:01 PM
Wonder when some criminal finds a way to crack it.

There already is a way. It's called flatbed & forklift truck ramraiding.

Loki
10-23-2010, 03:56 PM
I don't care for this idea. Transactions will naturally be electronic. There will be an auditable trail leading straight to your front door. The Feds will know exactly how much you bought, where you live etc, the day they come to confiscate your supposed "property".


Huh? And why would they want to do that? :confused: Sounds like conspiracy theory gone mad. All the gold you'll be able to purchase in your lifetime is small change to them anyway.

The Lawspeaker
10-23-2010, 04:40 PM
History has a nasty tendency, Loki.
It has the tendency to repeat itself- always in a slightly different way and with different names but nonetheless repeating itself.

Psychonaut
10-23-2010, 04:47 PM
Huh? And why would they want to do that? :confused: Sounds like conspiracy theory gone mad. All the gold you'll be able to purchase in your lifetime is small change to them anyway.

Roy posted an extreme reason, but a more likely one, in the US at least, is tax related (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_as_an_investment#Taxation):


Due to section 9006 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, starting on January 1, 2012, IRS tax form 1099 will be required for all purchases of goods and services that exceed $600 per calendar year. This new reporting requirement will cover precious metals. With gold at $1200 per ounce, this would make it impossible to sell a typical one-ounce bullion coin without IRS paperwork. As of July 2010[update] the bullion industry is fighting the regulation, and California Representative Dan Lungren has introduced legislation to have the relevant section of the Act reversed.