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Peterski
02-02-2017, 09:55 AM
PL_N17 from Gustorzyn, Early Bronze Age Poland, ca. 1953-1880 BC:

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/SAMN04633627

According to Vladimir Tagankin, his Y-DNA haplogroup was R1a-Z280.

This is the oldest R1a-Z280 found so far, and the only Early BA one.

Red arrow shows Gustorzyn:

http://s29.postimg.org/3u08ko2rb/screenshot_134.png

Peterski
02-02-2017, 04:52 PM
PL_N17, Early Bronze Age Poland (Gustorzyn), 1953-1880 BC:

1) MDLP World calculator:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 46.88
2 South_and_West_European 35.98
3 Caucaus_Parsia 14.94
4 Arctic_Amerind 1.41
5 Indian 0.53
6 Sub_Saharian 0.19
7 Paleo_African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Latvian_V 6.86
2 Ukrainian_V 7.39
3 Ukrainian-Center 7.61
4 Ukrainian-West 7.89
5 Ukrainian-East 8.57
6 Russian_South 9.13
7 German 9.24
8 Sorb 9.34
9 Ukrainian 9.41
10 Slovakian 9.45
11 Russian_cossack 9.72
12 Mordovian_V 10.04
13 Belarusian_V 10.21
14 German-North 10.25
15 Czech 10.6
16 Polish_V 10.71
17 Croatian_V 10.96
18 Russian_V 11.2
19 Swedish_V 11.22
20 Swedish 11.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Belarusian_V + 16.9% Avar @ 3.1
2 82.4% Polish_V + 17.6% Avar @ 3.16
3 83.2% Belarusian_V + 16.8% Lak @ 3.25
4 84.5% Sorb + 15.5% Avar @ 3.26
5 82.5% Polish_V + 17.5% Lak @ 3.28
6 82.9% Belarusian_V + 17.1% Tabassaran @ 3.34
7 82.1% Polish_V + 17.9% Tabassaran @ 3.42
8 84.7% Sorb + 15.3% Lak @ 3.47
9 84.4% Sorb + 15.6% Tabassaran @ 3.5
10 82.8% Polish_V + 17.2% Lezgin @ 3.58
11 83.6% Belarusian_V + 16.4% Lezgin @ 3.59
12 87.3% Russian_South + 12.7% Abhkasian @ 3.64
13 83.5% Polish + 16.5% Abhkasian @ 3.64
14 82.3% Polish_V + 17.7% Chechen @ 3.74
15 85.1% Sorb + 14.9% Lezgin @ 3.85
16 85.2% Polish_V + 14.8% Abhkasian @ 3.86
17 83.1% Belarusian_V + 16.9% Chechen @ 3.89
18 88% Ukrainian-Center + 12% Avar @ 3.93
19 83.4% Polish_V + 16.6% Ossetian @ 3.94
20 80.9% Polish + 19.1% Avar @ 3.98

2) PuntDNAL K15 calculator:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 67.29
2 Mediterranean 18.06
3 Caucasian 12.33
4 Amerindian 1.21
5 Siberian 1.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian 6.94
2 Polish 7.81
3 Russian 7.85
4 Karelian 8.12
5 Mordovian 9.15
6 Lithuanian 9.18
7 Finnish 9.77
8 Swedish 10.37
9 North_German 12.58
10 Norwegian 12.67
11 Slovenian 12.99
12 Austrian 13.97
13 Hungarian 14.12
14 Scottish 14.23
15 Irish 14.49
16 Orcadian 14.65
17 English 15.55
18 Croatian 15.73
19 Utahn_White 18.56
20 South_German 19.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.9% Lithuanian + 10.1% Georgian @ 3.7
2 89.3% Lithuanian + 10.7% Abkhasian @ 3.89
3 86.8% Lithuanian + 13.2% Lezgin @ 3.91
4 87.6% Lithuanian + 12.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.93
5 87.2% Lithuanian + 12.8% Balkar @ 4.08
6 86.3% Lithuanian + 13.7% Chechen @ 4.1
7 87.3% Lithuanian + 12.7% Kumyk @ 4.26
8 88.6% Lithuanian + 11.4% Turk_Istanbul @ 4.61
9 91.4% Belarusian + 8.6% Lezgin @ 4.66
10 89.7% Lithuanian + 10.3% Turk_Trabzon @ 4.84
11 93.7% Belarusian + 6.3% Georgian @ 4.85
12 93.4% Belarusian + 6.6% Abkhasian @ 4.91
13 89.4% Lithuanian + 10.6% Armenian @ 4.92
14 92.3% Belarusian + 7.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.92
15 91.4% Belarusian + 8.6% Chechen @ 4.93
16 92.1% Belarusian + 7.9% Balkar @ 4.97
17 89.2% Lithuanian + 10.8% Azerbaijani @ 5.03
18 86.9% Lithuanian + 13.1% Nogai @ 5.03
19 88.5% Lithuanian + 11.5% Turk_Kayseri @ 5.07
20 88.9% Lithuanian + 11.1% Kurdish @ 5.09

Peterski
02-02-2017, 05:22 PM
Meanwhile, R1b found in Mesolithic hunter-gatherers in Latvia:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?202355-R1b-found-in-Mesolithic-Hunter-Gatherers-in-Latvia&p=4222076&viewfull=1#post4222076

Peterski
02-02-2017, 07:49 PM
Davidski modeled PL_N17 as:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8066-DISCUSSION-THREAD-FOR-quot-Genetic-Genealogy-and-Ancient-DNA-in-the-News-quot&p=211240&viewfull=1#post211240

Yamnaya_Samara 0.677
Lengyel_LN 0.252
Western_HG 0.065
Nganasan 0.006

Or in another model:

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/02/first-look-at-polish-early-bronze-age.html

Yamnaya_Samara 0.687±0.040
Lengyel_LN 0.249±0.037
Western_HG 0.064±0.028

Yamnaya_Samara 61.9
Lengyel_LN:I1495 25.6
Western_HG 12.6

More about Lengyel sample I1495 can be found here:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/europeanneolithicdna.shtml

Lengyel Hungary Apc-Berekalja I [I1495/NE 7] M 4490-4360 BC I2a N1a1a1a

Pahli
02-02-2017, 07:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BgREkkjcg

Norka
02-02-2017, 07:57 PM
https://media.tenor.co/images/ca6fdba456fb92d9cb956a7c9fd2be11/raw

Peterski
02-03-2017, 09:53 AM
GEDmatch eye color prediction:

http://i.imgur.com/M5xR2gL.png


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PuntDNAL K12 Ancient results for PL_N17 (Early Bronze Age Poland):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 46.39
2 Caucasus_HG 29.52
3 Anatolian_NF 22.02
4 Beringian 0.86
5 Amerindian 0.69
6 Oceanian 0.33
7 Sub-Saharan 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Srubnaya_I0232 2.74
2 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 3.19
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 4.03
4 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 4.82
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 4.85
6 Srubnaya_I0430 6.41
7 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 7.27
8 Potapovka_I0419 7.41
9 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 7.54
10 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 9.16
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 11.71
12 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 11.73
13 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 12.02
14 Unetice_EBA_I0117 12.91
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 13.1
16 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 13.16
17 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 14.99
18 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 15.82
19 Scythian_IA_I0247 17.39
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 19.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 5.7% Hungary_HG_I1507 @ 2.02
2 94.4% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 5.6% Bichon @ 2.06
3 57.7% Srubnaya_I0232 + 42.3% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 2.11
4 83.4% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 16.6% Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 2.21
5 83.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 16.1% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 2.24
6 95.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 4.1% Karelia_HG_I0061 @ 2.3
7 76.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 23.4% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 2.32
8 95.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 4.4% Iberia_Mesolithic_I0585 @ 2.32
9 92.2% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 7.8% Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 2.38
10 92.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 7.4% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 2.39
11 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% Loschbour_SG @ 2.49
12 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% LaBrana @ 2.49
13 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% Motala12 @ 2.49
14 68.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 31.1% Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 2.6
15 79.2% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 20.8% Potapovka_I0419 @ 2.62
16 92.8% Srubnaya_I0232 + 7.2% BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 2.66
17 63.1% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 36.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 2.66
18 99.3% Srubnaya_I0232 + 0.7% Satsurblia_SATP @ 2.68
19 88.1% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 11.9% Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 2.7
20 99.3% Srubnaya_I0232 + 0.7% Kotias_Kide_KK @ 2.7

Peterski
02-03-2017, 02:56 PM
Davidski's PCA:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3henU8gFDCg/WJKf_VlmGzI/AAAAAAAAFQE/eQXocu9m20Ecu7SOnXLcqYxO8SFUBr1yQCLcB/s1218/PL_N17b.png

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3henU8gFDCg/WJKf_VlmGzI/AAAAAAAAFQE/eQXocu9m20Ecu7SOnXLcqYxO8SFUBr1yQCLcB/s1218/PL_N17b.png

johen
02-03-2017, 04:55 PM
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PuntDNAL K12 Ancient results for PL_N17 (Early Bronze Age Poland):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 46.39
2 Caucasus_HG 29.52
3 Anatolian_NF 22.02
4 Beringian 0.86
5 Amerindian 0.69
6 Oceanian 0.33
7 Sub-Saharan 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Srubnaya_I0232 2.74
2 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 3.19
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 4.03
4 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 4.82
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 4.85
6 Srubnaya_I0430 6.41
7 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 7.27
8 Potapovka_I0419 7.41
9 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 7.54
10 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 9.16
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 11.71
12 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 11.73
13 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 12.02
14 Unetice_EBA_I0117 12.91
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 13.1
16 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 13.16
17 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 14.99
18 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 15.82
19 Scythian_IA_I0247 17.39
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 19.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 5.7% Hungary_HG_I1507 @ 2.02
2 94.4% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 5.6% Bichon @ 2.06
3 57.7% Srubnaya_I0232 + 42.3% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 2.11
4 83.4% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 16.6% Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 2.21
5 83.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 16.1% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 2.24
6 95.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 4.1% Karelia_HG_I0061 @ 2.3
7 76.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 23.4% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 2.32
8 95.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 4.4% Iberia_Mesolithic_I0585 @ 2.32
9 92.2% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 7.8% Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 2.38
10 92.6% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 7.4% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 2.39
11 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% Loschbour_SG @ 2.49
12 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% LaBrana @ 2.49
13 96.8% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 3.2% Motala12 @ 2.49
14 68.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 31.1% Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 2.6
15 79.2% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 20.8% Potapovka_I0419 @ 2.62
16 92.8% Srubnaya_I0232 + 7.2% BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 2.66
17 63.1% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 36.9% Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 2.66
18 99.3% Srubnaya_I0232 + 0.7% Satsurblia_SATP @ 2.68
19 88.1% Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + 11.9% Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 2.7
20 99.3% Srubnaya_I0232 + 0.7% Kotias_Kide_KK @ 2.7

1. srubna? Does he look like cromagnon type?

The Late Scythian population considered in this study proved to be genetically homogeneous, although some connections with the Sarmatians were found. We also revealed similarities between the Scythian groups and the local Bronze Age population of the Srubnaya culture, as well as, to a lesser extent, a group representative of the Central Asian Bronze Age Okunevo culture.

2. Are srubna and sintashta same people?