Crimes deserving of a death penalty

[Loddfafner]

What crimes do you think merit the death penalty? Here are a few to get things rolling:

1. Taking this thread off topic. That includes arguments over the merits of the death penalty itself. That also includes demographic accidents of birth such as being of the wrong phenotype.

2. Wearing white shoes after labor day.

3. Architects and city planners who make our environments ugly.

4. Mixing up "then" and "than".

5. Theft.

[Aemma]

What crimes do you think merit the death penalty? Here are a few to get things rolling:

1. Taking this thread off topic. That includes arguments over the merits of the death penalty itself. That also includes demographic accidents of birth such as being of the wrong phenotype.

2. Wearing white shoes after labor day.

3. Architects and city planners who make our environments ugly.

4. Mixing up "then" and "than".

5. Theft.

No but missing capitals in a capital punishment thread is, well, a capital offense punishable by something I'm sure. :D

Nice dig about the city planners. ;) I'll remember that when it's time for me to get the round of beers! :p

[The Lawspeaker]

High treason (in both war- and peacetime: elites take notice !)
Espionage (in both war- and peacetime)
Infanticide
Child molestation
Arson - with deaths as a result
Terrorism
Rape, murder etc if committed by an immigrant against a local (as they don't understand or respect our judicial system).

Persons who are deemed to be criminally insane and found guilty on charges like murder, rape, arson should not be treated (being a drain on the taxpayer) and put back into society where they can endanger innocent citizens again-- instead they should be executed.

Desertion
Cowardliness in the face of the enemy
Any infringement by (para-)military personnel on hostile or friendly citizens.

[Fortis in Arduis]

For today only:

1. Pushing in queues.

2. South London.

3. Eggs.

4. Britney Spears.

It's full moon today.

[The Lawspeaker]

1.Bartenders that are only giving half a glass of beer but are charging for a whole pint
2.People that push in queues or jump them.
3.Train/bus/tram/metro drivers that are more than five minutes late.
4.Staff that takes more than five minutes to ask for your order when they are not extremely busy.
5. General practitioners that are not doing their work but still charge for a consult.


http://nicolen.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/noose2.jpg
SHORT drop, please !

[Loddfafner]

4. Mixing up "then" and "than".




3.Train/bus/tram/metro drivers that are more then five minutes late.
4.Staff that takes more then five minutes to ask for your order when they are not extremely busy.

http://nicolen.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/noose2.jpg
SHORT drop, please !

[The Lawspeaker]

I am the foreigner so I am allowed to make mistakes. :)

[Wyn]

High treason (in both war- and peacetime: elites take notice !)
Espionage (in both war- and peacetime)
Infanticide
Child molestation
Arson - with deaths as a result
Terrorism
Rape, murder etc if committed by an immigrant against a local (as they don't understand or respect our judicial system).

Persons who are deemed to be criminally insane and found guilty on charges like murder, rape, arson should not be treated (being a drain on the taxpayer) and put back into society where they can endanger innocent citizens again-- instead they should be executed.

Desertion
Cowardliness in the face of the enemy
Any infringement by (para-)military personnel on hostile or friendly citizens.


Surely, only murder should be punishable with death? Life for life (if a person supports the death penalty). Rape, cowardliness, espionage etc. are in my opinion no reason to kill a person. Espionage and rape deserve life imprisonment certainly. But death? No way.

[Peasant]

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3.Train/bus/tram/metro drivers that are more than five minutes late.


It is worse when they are five minutes early and drive off before you get there on time.:mad:

[The Lawspeaker]

Surely, only murder should be punishable with death? Life for life (if a person supports the death penalty). Rape, cowardliness, espionage etc. are in my opinion no reason to kill a person. Espionage and rape deserve life imprisonment certainly. But death? No way.
Rape can scar a person for life so a rapist has taken a life away. Espionage can potentially kill people and so can cowardliness as a coward runs away leaving his comrade-in-arms to die.

So for such crimes one deserves a bullet or the noose and preferably on Market Square or in front of the regiment.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Intentional killing not in defense of self or property, as well as negligent killing brought on by intentional reckless acts such as substance abuse (ie, drunk driving).

Violent rape ('date rape' or drunk people are parties is too hard to prove to issue death penalty for).

Child molestation.

'3 strikes and out' law for standard crimes such as theft, robbery, burglary, arson, etc. There people will never be of use to society, and no sense paying to lock them up for life.

The criminally insane for serious crimes such as attempted murder and serious assaults. There people will never be of use to society, and no sense paying to lock them up for life.

Treason by supporting foreign groups engaged in active violence against the country.


Also:

'Rachel from cardholder services'. This bitch must die a slow, painful death.

People who lag on game servers operated by Blizzard.

People who confuse your/you're, or our/are

People who allow dogs to run loose outside without a leash

People who allow dogs to defecate in public places and do no pick it up

Slow drivers, as well as those who brake suddenly or prematurely, and those who turn without using turn signals

[Loddfafner]

1. Taking this thread off topic. That includes arguments over the merits of the death penalty itself.


Surely, only murder should be punishable with death? Life for life (if a person supports the death penalty). Rape, cowardliness, espionage etc. are in my opinion no reason to kill a person. Espionage and rape deserve life imprisonment certainly. But death? No way.


http://nicolen.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/noose2.jpg
SHORT drop, please !

[Wyn]

Rape can scar a person for life so a rapist has taken a life away.

That's completely subjective. When is a person scarred for life? What is scarring for life? When they can't function normally? What is functioning normally? What if the rape victim wishes for the rapist to be spared?

In the end, a life hasn't been lost.


Espionage can potentially kill people and so can cowardliness as you run away leaving your comrade-in-arms to die.

So for such crimes one deserves a bullet or the noose and preferably on Market Square or in front of the regiment.

Potentially, can etc. In the end you are advocating the taking of life where life has not been taken.

[The Lawspeaker]

And he has no excuse... :D "prepares the scaffolding for the big moment.."

[Wyn]

I wasn't arguing the merits of the death penalty.

Nonetheless, I'll kill an executioner in self-defense. Bring it on.

[The Lawspeaker]

That's completely subjective. When is a person scarred for life? What is scarring for life? When they can't function normally? What is functioning normally? What if the rape victim wishes for the rapist to be spared?

In the end, a life hasn't been lost.
I have known several rape victims in my life and it's effectively a form of torture traumatising a person for life. And it's not up to a psychologist to determine whether a person functions normally.. only the victim herself knows and those around her. So if there is no plea from the victim herself to save the rapist's life a noose will suffice.



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Potentially, can etc. In the end you are advocating the taking of life where life has not been taken.
Here one has to make sure that no one has been killed by the actions this spy or coward has undertaken. In the heat of battle that will usually be difficult to determine but the regiment's morale can suffer as a result leading to more desertion and cowardliness and people will die as a result so it should be cut short and unless there is no psychological or physical reason why a person has to withdraw then there is no reason to spare his life if he abandons his comrades. And yes: I advocate shooting in front of the regiment like the French and British did during WWI.

Even more so for spies: spies kill people because they hand over documents and plans to the enemy. For that alone they deserve the noose. And a short drop at it.

I believe that in some occasions killing a person saves lifes.

[Psychonaut]

Let's see, things that deserve the death penalty, but don't currently receive it...
Home invasion: if the homeowner doesn't shoot you, the state should.
Crimes that if pepetrated by the non-mentally ill would result in the death penalty should be so for the insane as well.
Having a faux-hawk.
Popping your shirt collar.
Getting any type of barbed wire tattoo.

[julie]

I am the foreigner so I am allowed to make mistakes. :)

yes you are...lol

[julie]

1. idiots 2. fat women who wear small clothes and all u see is fat wanting to escape 3.anyone who voted for OBAMA need i say more

[RoyBatty]

- Watching X-Factor / American Idol
- Saying "we're all in this together" or "yes we can"

[RoyBatty]

Popping your shirt collar.

Except if your name is Eric Cantona

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[whirlwind]

This is a tricky one for me and given my career path I will probably struggle with it my whole life. I don't like state sanctioned murder, the concept is quite troubling. It is not a deterrent, and far too many people have died while innocent. Damien Echols of the West Memphis 3 is currently sitting on death row for a crime that anyone of moderate intelligence could discern he is innocent. He is only one example. I don't believe our criminal justice system is efficient enough to deserve the right to hand out death sentences, it has not earned that right. That doesn't mean I don't believe any crime is execution worthy, but until I have faith in the system [for which I am studying to be a part of], I won't be comfortable with its power over life and death.

[Aleksandor]

In my opinion, crimes deemed fit for the death penalty are those viewed as "curtailments of another's potential." One kind [call it Width Infringement] is that which restricts a human being's exercising his volition (personal expression + speech + health choice + whatever ties into this) to any extent as long as the negative upshots that may arise from his actions don't harm anyone other than himself. Another crime in this category would be the wasting of another's time [call it Length Infringement].

It's a start.

[SwordoftheVistula]

In my opinion, crimes deemed fit for the death penalty are those viewed as "curtailments of another's potential." One kind [call it Width Infringement]

This is a good concept. We can add fat people on airplanes & movie theatres who spill over into your seat, and people who park their car in such a way as to take up more than one parking space.

[Aleksandor]

Haha - Respect would be garnered all across America.

[CelticTemplar]

1) Treason against your people/country/constitution.
2) Murder in all degrees except in self defense.
3) Pedophilia
4) Rape
5) Drug Abuse
6) Terrorism
7) Piracy
8) Kidnapping
9) Adultery
10) Armed Robbery

[GregSamsa]

Well,to be perfectly honest I don't believe in death penalty at all,I consider it to be a barbaric practice,but if it has to be any exception to the rule that could be;

1)Mixing a good Rioja wine with cheap lemonade.

2)The missuse of the voice "man", like in "....that's rad maaaaan!!..."

3)Generic R&B performers/autotune morons (that's nearly 99.9% of them)

4)Internet "warriors" (aka trolls)

5)PC zealots

6)Chavs

8)Simon Cowell

9)Mormons

10)Anyone living south from Inese (measured in centimeters of course)

[Eldritch]

1) Treason against your people/country/constitution.
2) Murder in all degrees except in self defense.
3) Pedophilia
4) Rape
5) Drug Abuse
6) Terrorism
7) Piracy
8) Kidnapping
9) Adultery
10) Armed Robbery

A few questions & comments:

Killing someone in self-defence is not murder, methinks.

When you say drug abuse, do you mean purchasing and using drugs, as well as manufacturing and distributing them?

Why do you think adultery should be punishable by death?

[The Lawspeaker]

A few questions & comments:

Killing someone in self-defence is not murder, methinks.
Agreed.



When you say drug abuse, do you mean purchasing and using drugs, as well as manufacturing and distributing them?

Why do you think adultery should be punishable by death?
Indeed. I think that the State has enough no.. too much power as it is. Sometimes divorce is a worse punishment then a death penalty, methinks.

[The Journeyman]

- Prick lawyers
- Dikes that like to argue
- Prick lawyers
- Uber-liberal feminine men that like to argue
- People that abuse animals
- Rapists and skanks spreading herpes
- Rod Stewart (the ear rapist)

[Grumpy Cat]

Murder
Treason
Child molestation
Terrorism
Rape


Also, using a public toilet and not flushing.

[Aemma]

Murder
Treason
Child molestation
Terrorism
Rape


Also, using a public toilet and not flushing.

:clap:

[Grumpy Cat]

There's more:

Wearing socks and sandals.

Wearing skinny jeans, especially if paired with skater shoes.

Wearing Uggs.

Wearing too much perfume/cologne.

Touching my hair.

[Sahson]

Underage Rape
Intentional Rape
Female genitial cutting
Criminal transmission of HIV/AIDS
Necrophilia
Intetional Murder
Child Prostitution
Child Pornography
Cannibalism

[Debaser11]

I don't like state sanctioned murder, the concept is quite troubling.

Well, if a person is convicted of a crime punishable by death (like murder), I don't think it's fair to say the state is murdering the person. They are delivering justice the same way I would try to absent a government if someone murdered a family member of mine. I would rightfully try to avenge them. I don't think that would make me a murderer.


It is not a deterrent, and far too many people have died while innocent.

I don't think most people support the death penalty for utilitarian reasons like that. They simply want justice (equity, tit for tat). I would have a hard time imagining not going insane if someone murdered or violently raped a close friend or family member of mine and I had to know that they were still getting to live out the rest of their natural life.


Damien Echols of the West Memphis 3 is currently sitting on death row for a crime that anyone of moderate intelligence could discern he is innocent. He is only one example.

I don't quite understand this argument. Either one accepts faith in the court system or one does not. If one accepts that our justice system is legitimate, then one should accept the perscribed moral rectifiers that we feel are necessary for a given crime. If we're just not going to trust the system in regards to criminal trials involving the death penalty, why should we trust the system in regards to lesser criminal charges or even in the case of civil trials which are not insignificant either? Either we accept our justice system as legitimate and capable of dispensing justice or we don't.


I also think the nature of the rape charge is important in determining whether or not a guilty person deserves death. There was one case where a man was tried for rape for literally not pulling out fast enough. There was one case where a man was accused of rape for having sex with a woman after the woman passed out (even though there was consent leading up and into the act) and there have even been men accused of rape for simply having sex with women who consented while they were drunk. Then there is statutory rape which sends some guys to prison because they fell for lying jail bait that was making itself readily availiable.

I would not find putting any of them to death to be a form of justice.