Istanbul Greek GEDMatch results.

[Sikeliot]

This person is a Greek with all of their ancestry from Istanbul. They are close to mainland Greeks but slightly less West Asian and, in fact, are not as outlying as Sicilians, south Italians, and Cretans.

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.77
2 West_Asian 19.34
3 Atlantic 14.21
4 West_Med 12.15
5 Baltic 11.26
6 North_Sea 9.29
7 Eastern_Euro 7.41
8 Red_Sea 2.78
9 Oceanian 0.52
10 Amerindian 0.14
11 Siberian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 7.39
2 Central_Greek 8.63
3 Italian_Abruzzo 9.18
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.49
5 Ashkenazi 10.2
6 Bulgarian 10.37
7 East_Sicilian 10.38
8 South_Italian 11.91
9 Romanian 12.5
10 West_Sicilian 12.61
11 Tuscan 13.9
12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.45
13 Serbian 16.49
14 Turkish 16.61
15 Italian_Jewish 16.69
16 Algerian_Jewish 18.11
17 North_Italian 18.73
18 Cyprian 20.1
19 Tunisian_Jewish 20.14
20 Azeri 20.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Armenian @ 2.64
2 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.65
3 80.2% Greek + 19.8% Lezgin @ 2.68
4 77.8% Greek + 22.2% Kumyk @ 2.7
5 80.9% Greek + 19.1% Adygei @ 2.72
6 81.5% Greek + 18.5% Chechen @ 2.88
7 82.4% Greek + 17.6% North_Ossetian @ 2.98
8 80.6% Greek + 19.4% Kabardin @ 3.02
9 81.2% Greek + 18.8% Tabassaran @ 3.12
10 70.8% Bulgarian + 29.2% Assyrian @ 3.16
11 83% Greek + 17% Georgian @ 3.21
12 82.5% Greek + 17.5% Ossetian @ 3.22
13 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% Turkish @ 3.26
14 81.2% Greek + 18.8% Balkar @ 3.29
15 84.7% Greek + 15.3% Abhkasian @ 3.35
16 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.87
17 70.9% Bulgarian + 29.1% Kurdish @ 3.92
18 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Armenian @ 4
19 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Assyrian @ 4.02
20 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.03


MDLP:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.68
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 21.91
3 European_Early_Farmers 15.79
4 Near_East 7.88
5 South_Central_Asian 7.05
6 North_African 2.56
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.92


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Macedonia @ 6.655426
2 Gagauz @ 7.363996
3 Greek_Thessaloniki @ 7.491178
4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 7.775844
5 Greek_Peloponnesos @ 8.010682
6 Greek @ 8.209731
7 Central_Greek @ 8.474091
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.921802
9 Albanian_Tirana @ 9.374748
10 Azov_Greek @ 9.379294
11 Greek_Northwest @ 9.745895
12 Romanian @ 9.955947
13 Greek_Athens @ 10.174258
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 10.570400
15 Bulgarian @ 10.808375
16 Kosovar @ 11.339448
17 Greek_Phokaia @ 11.716708
18 Ashkenazi @ 11.866598
19 Macedonian @ 12.089237
20 Romanian_Jew @ 12.479889

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek +50% Macedonian @ 2.552762

Dodecad:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.63
2 Atlantic_Med 24.96
3 North_European 23.62
4 Gedrosia 8.46
5 Southwest_Asian 8.41
6 Northwest_African 0.8
7 Siberian 0.79
8 Sub_Saharan 0.22
9 East_African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 7.81
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.27
3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.6
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.76
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.59
6 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.28
7 Romanians (Behar) 13.29
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 13.39
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.55
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.57
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 13.99
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.35
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.86
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 19.22
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.33
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.48
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.8
18 Turks (Behar) 23.96
19 Cypriots (Behar) 25.08
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 27.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.19
2 56% Cypriots (Behar) + 44% German (Dodecad) @ 3.19
3 75.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.37
4 78.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.57
5 63.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.63
6 63.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.66
7 80% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.8
8 79.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.8% Adygei (HGDP) @ 3.81
9 79.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 3.84
10 77.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.93
11 84.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 15.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.22
12 53.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.33
13 57.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 42.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.45
14 78.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.46
15 52.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 47.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.49
16 78.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.5
17 58.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 41.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.63
18 78.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.63
19 63.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.64
20 50% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 50% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.66


PuntDNA:
Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 34.23
2 Caucasus_HG 31.54
3 European_HG 21.45
4 Near_East 9.65
5 Beringian 1.35
6 Oceanian 1.33
7 South_African_HG 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 8.52
2 Albanian 9.24
3 Ashkenazi_Jew 9.25
4 Bulgarian 10.48
5 Turkish_Aydin 10.93
6 Tuscan 11.17
7 Sicilian_East 11.34
8 Sicilian_West 12.09
9 Turkish 15.5
10 Croatian 17.22
11 Kurdish 17.85
12 Turkish_Kayseri 17.92
13 Romanian 18.28
14 Kumyk 18.56
15 Moroccan_Jew 19.18
16 Balkar 19.32
17 Turkish_Jew 19.35
18 Italian_Bergamo 19.57
19 Cypriot 19.74
20 Adygei 20.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.3% Belgian + 46.7% Georgian_Jew @ 2.08
2 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Armenian @ 2.11
3 55% Romanian + 45% Armenian @ 2.26
4 55.7% Romanian + 44.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.27
5 51.7% German_South + 48.3% Georgian_Jew @ 2.34
6 52.2% Dutch_South + 47.8% Iranian_Jew @ 2.37
7 51.5% Assyrian + 48.5% Dutch_South @ 2.39
8 69.1% Bulgarian + 30.9% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.45
9 51.7% Iranian_Jew + 48.3% English_South @ 2.45
10 51.2% Utahn_European + 48.8% Georgian_Jew @ 2.49
11 52.9% Iranian_Jew + 47.1% Irish @ 2.5
12 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Laz @ 2.51
13 57.6% Romanian + 42.4% Georgian_Jew @ 2.51
14 50.2% Utahn_European + 49.8% Iranian_Jew @ 2.52
15 53.5% Assyrian + 46.5% Utahn_European @ 2.63
16 53% Assyrian + 47% German_South @ 2.65
17 70.8% Bulgarian + 29.2% Georgian_Jew @ 2.65
18 69.9% Bulgarian + 30.1% Iranian_Jew @ 2.66
19 55.4% Assyrian + 44.6% English_South @ 2.67
20 53.5% Romanian + 46.5% Laz @ 2.72


Gedrosia:
# Population Percent
1 Caucuses 29.83
2 WHG 23.81
3 EEF 21.47
4 SW_Asian 13.2
5 Balochi 4.07
6 Burusho 2.89
7 NE_Indian_Tribal 2.02
8 Kalash 1.51
9 Siberian 0.63
10 E_African 0.39
11 W_African 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.8
2 Albanian 10.98
3 Bulgarian 12.25
4 Sicilian 13.36
5 Ashkenazi_Jew 15.28
6 Turkish 17.08
7 Bergamo 21.48
8 Croatian 23.15
9 French 25.6
10 Spanish 26.4
11 Kurd_N 26.74
12 Cypriot 27.17
13 Hungarian 27.43
14 Iranian 27.69
15 English 28.42
16 Turkmen 28.78
17 Armenian 29.85
18 Tajik 30.45
19 Assyrian 30.66
20 Kurd_C 31.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Bulgarian + 28.6% Armenian @ 2.94
2 87.6% Greek + 12.4% Tajik_Pomiri @ 3.35
3 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% Turkish @ 3.39
4 86.6% Greek + 13.4% Tajik @ 3.43
5 88.9% Greek + 11.1% Pashtun_Afghan @ 3.59
6 69.4% Bulgarian + 30.6% Kurd_N @ 3.76
7 51.2% English + 48.8% Armenian @ 3.78
8 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Georgian_Jew @ 3.84
9 53.9% French + 46.1% Armenian @ 3.87
10 91.2% Greek + 8.8% Pathan @ 3.98
11 88.9% Greek + 11.1% Uzbek_Afghan @ 4.03
12 55.1% French + 44.9% Georgian_Jew @ 4.07
13 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Tajik_Afghan @ 4.09
14 52.4% English + 47.6% Georgian_Jew @ 4.1
15 92.3% Greek + 7.7% Sindhi @ 4.17
16 88.9% Greek + 11.1% Turkmen_Afghan @ 4.22
17 92.1% Greek + 7.9% Kurd_SE @ 4.24
18 92.4% Greek + 7.6% GujaratiA @ 4.25
19 93.2% Greek + 6.8% Kshatriya @ 4.29
20 88% Greek + 12% Turkmen @ 4.32


Near East Neolithic:
# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 33.33
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 22.4
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.22
4 NATUFIAN 10.29
5 EHG 10.01
6 SHG_WHG 5.19
7 SIBERIAN 1.62
8 POLAR 0.81
9 KARITIANA 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 6.79
2 Sicilian 7.74
3 Albanian 8.14
4 Italian_South 10.22
5 Jew_Ashkenazi 10.6
6 Turkish_Istanbul 11.54
7 Bulgarian 12.01
8 Turkish 12.16
9 Turkish_Balekesir 14.15
10 Jew_Moroccan 15.59
11 Romanian 15.6
12 Turkish_Aydin 16.09
13 Cypriot 16.88
14 Turkish_Adana 17.27
15 Turkish_Kayseri 17.41
16 Balkar 18.63
17 Kumyk 19.63
18 Adygei 20.36
19 Turkish_Trabzon 20.56
20 Croatian 20.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Albanian + 17.7% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.61
2 85.2% Greek + 14.8% Armenia_ChL @ 2.85
3 85.4% Greek + 14.6% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.95
4 53.8% Chechen + 46.2% Sardinian @ 3.16
5 85.6% Albanian + 14.4% Iran_recent @ 3.2
6 82.7% Albanian + 17.3% Armenia_ChL @ 3.41
7 51.7% Lezgin + 48.3% Sardinian @ 3.43
8 89.1% Albanian + 10.9% Iran_ChL @ 3.46
9 57% Kumyk + 43% Sardinian @ 3.69
10 89.2% Greek + 10.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.28
11 81.9% Albanian + 18.1% Kurd_C @ 4.33
12 92.8% Albanian + 7.2% Iran_LN @ 4.43
13 92.8% Albanian + 7.2% Iran_N @ 4.43
14 81% Albanian + 19% Iranian_Lori @ 4.48
15 89.8% Greek + 10.2% Iran_recent @ 4.54
16 76.7% Albanian + 23.3% Azeri @ 4.68
17 80.2% Albanian + 19.8% Iranian @ 4.68
18 92.5% Greek + 7.5% Iran_ChL @ 4.73
19 71.8% Albanian + 28.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.77
20 79.1% Albanian + 20.9% Assyrian @ 4.77

[Governor]

Imo, Turks have higher ANE and CHG percentage.

[Sikeliot]

Imo, Turks have higher ANE and CHG percentage.

This person isn't coming up like a Turk. They are like a regular mainland Greek but with a little extra Caucasian affinity. They do not pull toward the Levant at all unlike Sicilians and Cretans interestingly. This means we should reconsider whether the Anatolian Greek influx in the early 1900s changed the character of Greece much... really only the Pontic Greeks differ.

[Governor]

Which calculator seems more accurate, what do you think?

[Sikeliot]

Which calculator seems more accurate, what do you think?

Eurogenes probably. I think that calculator shows this person has reduced East Med input and has inflated West Asian and a sizable Baltic element for a Greek.

I just think this result, and others I have seen like it, problematize the notion that Anatolian Greeks contributed a heavily MENA character to Greece. In all likelihood, their impact is difficult to detect because they are Greeks, not Hellenized Anatolians. Pontic Greeks are another matter entirely, being almost solely West Asian and similar to Turks from Trabzon.

[Deniz]

He has a Bulgarian admixture,too.Looks like an Anatolian Greek+East Thrace Bulgarian.

[Pennywise]

Eurogenes probably. I think that calculator shows this person has reduced East Med input and has inflated West Asian and a sizable Baltic element for a Greek.

I just think this result, and others I have seen like it, problematize the notion that Anatolian Greeks contributed a heavily MENA character to Greece. In all likelihood, their impact is difficult to detect because they are Greeks, not Hellenized Anatolians. Pontic Greeks are another matter entirely, being almost solely West Asian and similar to Turks from Trabzon.

This guy looks like an Anatolian Greek (basically native Anatolian) with significant Bulgarian/Thracian impact. Not a good example to come up with such conclusion.

[Deniz]

I want to share one of this Greek results.He is my 5th cousin.I dont have any other Greek match for the Family Finder.Just this man.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 18.32
2 North_Sea 15.49
3 West_Med 14.27
4 East_Med 12.75
5 Eastern_Euro 11.78
6 Baltic 10.82
7 West_Asian 10.76
8 Red_Sea 2.58
9 Sub-Saharan 2.16
10 South_Asian 0.55
11 Northeast_African 0.42
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.23
2 Serbian 6.33
3 Bulgarian 7.34
4 North_Italian 12.16
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.23
6 Austrian 12.25
7 Greek 12.41
8 Moldavian 12.46
9 Tuscan 12.51
10 Croatian 13.71
11 Hungarian 13.73
12 Italian_Abruzzo 14.89
13 Spanish_Galicia 15.73
14 Portuguese 15.74
15 French 15.78
16 East_German 15.97
17 Spanish_Extremadura 16.19
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.26
19 West_Sicilian 16.28
20 Ashkenazi 16.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Serbian + 27.7% Tuscan @ 4.48
2 77.9% Serbian + 22.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.53
3 76.4% Serbian + 23.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.57
4 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.62
5 81.6% Romanian + 18.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.69
6 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.74
7 80.7% Romanian + 19.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.75
8 68.5% Tuscan + 31.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.75
9 82.3% Romanian + 17.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.77
10 80.2% Romanian + 19.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.77
11 79% Romanian + 21% Portuguese @ 4.79
12 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% South_Italian @ 4.83
13 81.5% Romanian + 18.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.84
14 70.3% Tuscan + 29.7% Erzya @ 4.84
15 88.1% Serbian + 11.9% Tunisian @ 4.84
16 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% East_Sicilian @ 4.85
17 73.3% Serbian + 26.7% North_Italian @ 4.86
18 83.8% Romanian + 16.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.87
19 80.1% Serbian + 19.9% Central_Greek @ 4.9
20 74% Serbian + 26% Greek @ 4.91

[Sikeliot]

This guy looks like an Anatolian Greek (basically native Anatolian) with significant Bulgarian/Thracian impact. Not a good example to come up with such conclusion.

But he comes up like a regular Greek really.

[Pennywise]

But he comes up like a regular Greek really.

The amount of the components he has doesn't really seem so. Oracle results can be skewed.

[Deniz]

But he comes up like a regular Greek really.

İstanbul Greeks can't be A Regular Greek.Just saying.Bulgarians hadn't got their church.And,They were an Orthodox.Orthodox Church=Hellenic Religious ceremony.Bulgarians knew this historical fact very well.Then,They built their orthodox church in İstanbul.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_St._Stephen_Church