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Tomasz
10-23-2010, 10:36 PM
I have been wondering lately, what genetics say about Jews. Is it true that they are so distinct from Europeans and trace their ancestry to Middle Eastern peoples? Or being Jew is only a cultural and religious factors and Jews are very diverse and mixed with Europeans? After some research, I found quite contradicting results.

1) An article on www.nature.com suggests that Jews are very closely related to themselves and stand in contrast to most of Europeans. You can read this article here:

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100603/full/news.2010.277.html?s=news_rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+news%2Frss%2Fnews_s17+%28Natu reNews+-+Archaeology+and+anthropology%29

2) Another article, this time on nordicist site "Refuting Racial Myths". It does not matter, what one thinks about nordicism, there's a bibliography added on this site so everything can be verified. This article asserts the same thing as the first one: Jews are close to themselves and stand in sharp contrast with most of Europeans. Link:

http://www.white-history.com/refuting_rm/2.html

3) Another opinion for Jewish racial/genetical uniformity is that of David Duke which he expressed in one of his videos. To support his claim, he quotes some research that tries to prove that Russians are closer to Germans than to Russian Jews and that Jews have Middle Eastern genes, are quite uniform. Here's the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nNdla9TW_Q&feature=related

4) On the other hand there was a thread on The Apricity which showed studies that prove otherwise: that Jews are very diverse and it's more of a religion/culture than race/closely related population. Here's the link to the thread:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18458

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Now I have a question: does anyone have some credible data about this? Is it now known if Jews are uniform genetically or distinct? Do we have a final result of all these studies?

If anyone has some knowledge about this subject, I would be delighted to hear your opinion. Feel free to post there. :thumbs up

Peasant
10-23-2010, 10:46 PM
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This may be interesting.

Gamera
10-23-2010, 10:56 PM
I found these images sometime ago quite interesting:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/jewpc2.jpg

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/jewpc3.jpg

I found them on this page:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2009/01/how-ashkenazi-jewish-are-you/

Ibericus
10-23-2010, 11:15 PM
Now I have a question: does anyone have some credible data about this? Is it now known if Jews are uniform genetically or distinct? Do we have a final result of all these studies?

If anyone has some knowledge about this subject, I would be delighted to hear your opinion. Feel free to post there. :thumbs up
There have been many recent studies about Jews. The conclusion is that both Sephardic/Ashkenazim are midway between europeans and Levantines. They are a "bridge" between Europeans and Middle-easterns. See these graphs from different studies :

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3720/jews2.png


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3074/eumescalabeled.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TBDgV2r3hxI/AAAAAAAACck/sYi1shNB8bc/s1600/westeurasianpca.jpg

Ibericus
10-23-2010, 11:19 PM
Here you have recent studies about Jews genetics :

1.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/08/23/1004381107.abstract

2.
http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/HammerPNAS_2000.pdf

3.
http://www.cell.com/AJHG/retrieve/pii/S0002929710002466

4.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature09103.html#supplementary-information

Tomasz
10-24-2010, 09:28 AM
Thank you a lot for good answers. :thumb001: