DNA testing recommendation

[Philip Latinowitz]

Could anyone recommend high quality and relatively cheap company to test my genome ? I know about 23andme, but it has very high price.
Any good advice is appreaciated !

If it matters, I'm currently living in Germany so likely ordering from US wouldn't be a problem.

[Era]

You're Ev13 :)

[Peterski]

Do you want the whole package Y-DNA + mtDNA + autosomal DNA?

[Rethel]

Could anyone recommend high quality and relatively cheap company to test my genome ? I know about 23andme, but it has very high price.
Any good advice is appreaciated !

If it matters, I'm currently living in Germany so likely ordering from US wouldn't be a problem.

Make only Y. Rest is a waiste of money.

[Philip Latinowitz]

You're Ev13 :)

How can you know it ? You'd save me lot of money in that case.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Do you want the whole package Y-DNA + mtDNA + autosomal DNA?
I would do both , but Y and mt-DNA interest me more at the moment, since I know what I can expect at autosomal level.


Make only Y. Rest is a waiste of money.
Yeah, but maternal ancestry is equally interesting, is it not ?

[Kelmendasi]

I would do both , but Y and mt-DNA interest me more at the moment, since I know what I can expect at autosomal level.


Yeah, but maternal ancestry is equally interesting, is it not ?
Ftdna is probably the best for haplogroup testing in my opinion

[Berahthraban]

23andme only

[Rethel]

Yeah, but maternal ancestry is equally interesting, is it not ?

No, is not.

1. There was none and is no maternal lineages.
2. At best, you will know only a letter, which have millions of people.
3. You can't be even really sure, if it was transmitted from woman to woman.
4. Result has no real meaning, you can also compare yourself with other people
by gen for hair colour or by gen for the big toe, and it will be exactly the same.
5. If you are really interested in the letter - do it, but it is really nothing more, than a letter,
which could be, and probably was at least once if not much more times transmitted via male.



Ftdna is probably the best for haplogroup testing in my opinion

Yes, I also think that this Semite is best for it :)

[Not a Cop]

I would do both , but Y and mt-DNA interest me more at the moment, since I know what I can expect at autosomal level.


Yeah, but maternal ancestry is equally interesting, is it not ?

If you're interested in Y and Mt you should do Ftdna, if you want autosomal than 23andme.

About the price- for Y you will either way have to spend atleast 150-200$ to know something more or less specipic, otherwise you'll get result like "Congrats you're R1b-M269, you share same ancestor with about 600 million people, enjoy"

And anyway you live in Germany, 150 dollars is like 2 days of low-tier job there, stop crying.

[Philip Latinowitz]

No, is not.

1. There was none and is no maternal lineages.
2. At best, you will know only a letter, which have millions of people.
3. You can't be even really sure, if it was transmitted from woman to woman.
4. Result has no real meaning, you can also compare yourself with other people
by gen for hair colour or by gen for the big toe, and it will be exactly the same.
5. If you are really interested in the letter - do it, but it is really nothing more, than a letter,
which could be, and probably was at least once if not much more times transmitted via male.




Yes, I also think that this Semite is best for it :)

Than, would you recommend ftDNA for Y haplogroup testing ?

[Tschaikisten]

Try FTDNA. I'm already tested in one private lab in Belgrade which cooperate with Serbian DNA Project, now I wait for kit from FTDNA lab in Houston, for Y12 test. As I know, there is a lab in Split where you can test your Ydna and Mtdna.

[Rethel]

And anyway you live in Germany, 150 dollars is like 2 days of low-tier job there, stop crying.

This was good :laugh:


Than, would you recommend ftDNA for Y haplogroup testing ?

Yes.
Later, you can eventually make SNPs in Y-seq in Berlin.


Try FTDNA. I'm already tested in one private lab in Belgrade which cooperate with Serbian DNA Project, now I wait for kit from FTDNA lab in Houston, for Y12 test.

Why? :confused:

[Not a Cop]

This was good :laugh:




I'm just really tired of people saying that dna-testing is expensive, i mean really dinner at restaurant with a girl would most likely cost you more.

Ofc i understand that TA is mostly made of single incels, but still.

[Philip Latinowitz]

I'm just a post-graduate student who has to finance entire studies by my own, so my budget is pretty tight. Thanks for recommendations, I 'll look for sale on ftDNA.

[Rethel]

I'm just a post-graduate student who has to finance entire studies by my own, so my budget is pretty tight. Thanks for recommendations, I 'll look for sale on ftDNA.

Belive me, if you would one month dont eat
chocolade, or not dating, or nor smoking, or
not drinking alcohol or whatever you use to
speand the money for, you would save the
money for DNA test. From my observations:
for example an average "poor" man who is
smoking, wastes some $150 per month if he
smokes one pakage per day, up to $450 if
three... And it's usually not only bad need. :laugh:

[Peterski]

Here are some options that you can consider:

Family Tree DNA
Ancestry DNA
National Geographic Geno 2.0
Living DNA
GPS Origins
DNA Tribes
YSEQ

And if you want to check some health-related stuff:

FitGenes
Genomix

[Vascontelo]

Family tree dna but you should buy the big Y

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

For now I recommend 23andMe. Gives you accurate autosomal ancestry results, good health reports (depends if your country allows you to receive their health reports or not, but even if it doesn't, you can download your raw data from the 23andMe site and upload it to Promethease to get similar results), and also gives you your Y-DNA and mtDNA. It's a bit more expensive than other tests, but it's worth it IMO. You can also upload your results to Gedmatch.

If you want to wait a bit, MyHeritage appears to be a good option. A lot cheaper than 23andMe (right now it's 89€ including shipment), it also seems to give good autosomal results, but I still haven't seen too many results from it cause it's a new company, so it's a bit more risky. You can wait a bit if you want to see if their results are accurate, and then make your decision.

[Iloko]

23andme is the best

but if that's not possible then I would recommend either FTDNA or MyHeritageDNA..
https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder
https://www.myheritage.com/dna

FTDNA sample ancestry composition:
https://dnaexplained.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/my-origins-euro-breakdown.png

...

MyHeritage DNA sample ancestry comp:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bptITVodzvc/WCCee1c7I5I/AAAAAAAAGf8/xkArrQSqEMI1jXVx42OSOzeUsh_8WRSuACLcB/s1600/MyHeritageEthnicity.tiff

[Tschaikisten]

For now I recommend 23andMe. Gives you accurate autosomal ancestry results, good health reports (depends if your country allows you to receive their health reports or not, but even if it doesn't, you can download your raw data from the 23andMe site and upload it to Promethease to get similar results), and also gives you your Y-DNA and mtDNA. It's a bit more expensive than other tests, but it's worth it IMO. You can also upload your results to Gedmatch.

If you want to wait a bit, MyHeritage appears to be a good option. A lot cheaper than 23andMe (right now it's 89€ including shipment), it also seems to give good autosomal results, but I still haven't seen too many results from it cause it's a new company, so it's a bit more risky. You can wait a bit if you want to see if their results are accurate, and then make your decision.

23andMe is suck. Balkan people mostly care for Ydna, and after all you can not see markers and try to match people on ysearch.

23andme is the best
For people which only care for autosomal it is, but about Ydna/Mtdna --------> FTDNA rulez.

[Philip Latinowitz]

I got advice from some users here to try FTDNA first. But suposedly their autosomal test sucks, so I'll stick to haplogroups. How long does it take to recieve results ?

[Tschaikisten]

I got advice from some users here to try FTDNA first. But suposedly their autosomal test sucks, so I'll stick to haplogroups. How long does it take to recieve results ?

2-3 weeks to they send equipment for a test, then 2-3 months to wait for results. Same with all companies. Once time when you send sample to them you don't need to send it again.

[Philip Latinowitz]

2-3 weeks to they send equipment for a test, then 2-3 months to wait for results. Same with all companies. Once time when you send sample to them you don't need to send it again.

Thanks. Damn, that's a long time.

[Rethel]

Balkan people mostly care for Ydna

Normal people. Not only Balkan. :)

[Philip Latinowitz]

Normal people. Not only Balkan. :)

I'd really like to do mtDNA test too. Because majority of Croats are I2a+R1a haplogroups, so I wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary :)

[Rethel]

How long does it take to recieve results ?

It is really individual.
For some one guy whom I tested results were in a week, for me - half a year,
becasue I send two tests at once (mine and my relative) and idiots thought
that it is one and the same person, even if there was two different numbers
and names and cognomens in profiles. :D :picard2: Usually it was about month max
two. It probably depends on, how many work they have at the time.

[Rethel]

I'd really like to do mtDNA test too. Because majority of Croats are I2a+R1a haplogroups, so I wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary :)

Usually such people are getting something special, for example O or A :laugh:

Belive me, probablity often doesn't work here. You have what you have.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Usually such people are getting something special, for example O or A :laugh:

Belive me, probablity often doesn't works here. You have what you have.

Isn't those non-European haplogroups ? I'm fully Croat as far back I know, so ..... :D

[Rethel]

Isn't those non-European haplogroups ? I'm fully Croat as far back I know, so ..... :D

O - Far East,
A - Bushmen and Nilots.

Ten years ago, I watched a documentary, where guy claimed,
that he is certainly a Viking, becasue he is from Northumberland,
and since always he was such. He got A as Angolian bushmens :)
(Only in Poland Angol can be confused with Englishman,
but it was not polish programme, unfortunatly for him :) )

Croats have also G, E, T, J1, J2, N, Q and probably also
rarely others, so, suspect every letter in alphabet, really.

About mt, look into my last threat in the MT division.

[Tschaikisten]

2-3 weeks to they send equipment for a test, then 2-3 months to wait for results. Same with all companies. Once time when you send sample to them you don't need to send it again.

As I say... I sended kit 27 february.
http://i.imgur.com/5arA92h.jpg

[Rethel]

I got advice from some users here to try FTDNA first. But suposedly their autosomal test sucks, so I'll stick to haplogroups. How long does it take to recieve results ?

Did you make some progress in Y testing since then? :)

[Philip Latinowitz]

Yeah, I took a Y37 test week and half ago :D
Can't wait to get my results!

[Tschaikisten]

Yeah, I took a Y37 test week and half ago :D
Can't wait to get my results!

R1a-M458, trust me :P.
If you are from Northwest Croatia, there are good chances for you to score R1b U152/U106, or G2a-L497>L42, there are few Croats from that region with that haplogroups, cuz it's close to Slovenia and Slovenia is closse to Alps. ;)

[Philip Latinowitz]

R1a-M458, trust me :P.
If you are from Northwest Croatia, there are good chances for you to score R1b U152/U106, or G2a-L497>L42, there are few Croats from that region with that haplogroups, cuz it's close to Slovenia and Slovenia is closse to Alps. ;)

That sound great mate :) We'll see. I'd love I2 or R1a, but everything else is good as long as it's European. How rare is your haplo among Serbs ?

[Rethel]

Yeah, I took a Y37 test week and half ago :D
Can't wait to get my results!

Be R1, be R1 pleeeaaaseee.... for Robocop's sake :)

[Rethel]

R1a-M458, trust me :P

Why he should be?

[Tschaikisten]

That sound great mate :) We'll see. I'd love I2 or R1a, but everything else is good as long as it's European. How rare is your haplo among Serbs ?

G2a is like a 3,40% on Serbian DNA Project (http://dnk.poreklo.rs/?lang=lat) (scroll a bit down or enter rezultati left up and then G2) right now, and like 90% of Serbian G2a is L497 when most of L497 is confirmed as L42 (some are confirmed as L42 and it's SNP branch YSC33 (In future I will do a test at yseq for YSC33).

As you can see, it's strong in northwest Croatia.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Be R1, be R1 pleeeaaaseee.... for Robocop's sake :)

Gladly :D
Robocop is an I2-supremacist ? I doubt man, come on. Northwest Croatia has lot or R1

[Rethel]

Gladly :D
Robocop is an I2-supremacist ? I doubt man, come on. Northwest Croatia has lot or R1

Partialy.
He cosider Dalmatians I2, but Posavians and Slavonians R1.
And he is dalmatian preferationist :laugh:

[Philip Latinowitz]

G2a is like a 3,40% on Serbian DNA Project (http://dnk.poreklo.rs/?lang=lat) (scroll a bit down or enter rezultati left up and then G2) right now, and like 90% of Serbian G2a is L497 when most of L497 is confirmed as L42 (some are confirmed as L42 and it's SNP branch YSC33 (In future I will do a test at yseq for YSC33).
http://i.imgur.com/pbkMlih.jpg
As you can see, it's strong in northwest Croatia.
http://i.imgur.com/83HBKxT.jpg

Cool. I wouldn't mind being G2 bro :D


Partialy.
He cosider Dalmatians I2, but Posavians and Slavonians R1.
And he is dalmatian preferationist :laugh:

He's lokalpatriot but I know he likes North Croats too. There's lot of I2 in he north so it's not Dalmatian exclusive marker :p

[Lek]

The G stands for Gay

[Oneeye]

23andme is on sell for $89 for a couple more days...

Unless you're interested in finding out who is closest to your specific yDNA subclade, ftDNA offers nothing that 23andme doesn't do better.

Autosomal, YDNA, mtDNA, your whole raw data available to be downloaded, health reports, carrier statuses, etc... what FTDNA offers out of that, you have to buy individually. 23andme is the best place to start, imo.


Edit: wrong link, ftDNA autosomal is on sell for 89, 23andme without health reports is 99, 199 including health reports....

[The Illyrian Warrior]

23andme is on sell for $89 for a couple more days...

Unless you're interested in finding out who is closest to your specific yDNA subclade, ftDNA offers nothing that 23andme doesn't do better.

Autosomal, YDNA, mtDNA, your whole raw data available to be downloaded, health reports, carrier statuses, etc... what FTDNA offers out of that, you have to buy individually. 23andme is the best place to start, imo.

23andme should start expanding their service to many countries not covered on their map, they loose many potential clients just for not doing anything on this direction.....for instance if they did cover on their service my country I'd order a kit right away.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Thanks guys but I already gone with FTDNA. Mainly because there's autosomal average for any ethnicity and YDNA is more individual thing, so more interesting for me.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Thanks guys but I already gone with FTDNA. Mainly because there's autosomal average for any ethnicity and YDNA is more individual thing, so more interesting for me.

Ftdna is OK, the price is also decent....congrats i guess?

[Tschaikisten]

23andme should start expanding their service to many countries not covered on their map, they loose many potential clients just for not doing anything on this direction.....for instance if they did cover on their service my country I'd order a kit right away.

23andMe is now focussed on Anglo-saxon World...USA, Canada, Australia...simply because most of people from these countries are interested about autosomal test (want to know their Euro, Ameridian, African % in ancestry).

[Dick]

Thanks guys but I already gone with FTDNA. Mainly because there's autosomal average for any ethnicity and YDNA is more individual thing, so more interesting for me.

Congrats. I hope you get E-v13.

[Dick]

23andme without health reports is 99

that's cheap. who cares about health reports? they'll probably say I'm HIV positive anyway. Fuck that! I'd rather not know.