Sweden buys camels for immigrants to help with integration.

[Pennywise]

http://www.expressen.se/ledare/naomi-abramowicz/radda-fororten-fran-kamelmjolken/

Congrats. Make Arabs happy.

[Dandelion]

Also Somalis would feel more at home that way, for the camel is their national animal.

[Bari]

This is a great idea. Camel milk is delicious and healthy:thumb001:

http://i.imgur.com/YPzsiiH.jpg

[Hadouken]

lol

[Pennywise]

This is a great idea. Camel milk is delicious and healthy:thumb001:

http://i.imgur.com/YPzsiiH.jpg

I doubt they only interested in its milk.

[Mikula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUutcO9vQ6I

[Porn Master]

HAHAHAHAH

[Egyptian]

That's great , now Sweden should buy kebab for Turks immigrants.

[ariel]

Lol funny news

[gültekin]

That's great , now Sweden should buy kebab for Turks immigrants.
No need, thanks. They buy for coward refuges which are spiritually incapable to own a country

[Pennywise]

That's great , now Sweden should buy kebab for Turks immigrants.

Ungrateful Arab, you don't derserve neither Turkish nor Swedish hospitality :no:

[Alessio]

:cool:

They should buy handbooks on how to properly treat Swedish women.

[Pennywise]

:cool:

They should buy handbooks on how to properly treat Swedish women.

Yep, they should start with the difference between camel and woman.

[Egyptian]

Ungrateful Arab, you don't derserve neither Turkish nor Swedish hospitality :no:

LOOOOOOOOOOOL you accuse an Egyptian ? WAKE UP we own the oldest country in the world when your ancestors were covering in caves in central asia.

Syrians or Iraqis are welcome to Egypt anytime .. any Arab is welcome here.

[Rumata]

:cool:

They should buy handbooks on how to properly treat Swedish women.

I've seen a video of a similar group course (a dozen of local females and migrant males + a psychologist). The psychologist taught how to approach a woman. IIRC it was from Germany.

[Wadaad]

Egyptian, this used to be my signature for a LOOOONG time lmao. Beautiful picture

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e600c005b970c-600wi

[Pennywise]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL you accuse an Egyptian ? WAKE UP we own the oldest country in the world when your ancestors were covering in caves in central asia.

Syrians or Iraqis are welcome to Egypt anytime .. any Arab is welcome here.

You are an invader in Egypt. Egyptian civilization has nothing to do with Arabs. Even Wadaad has more claim on it. Now do not derail my thread.

[Wadaad]

You are an invader in Egypt. Egyptian civilization has nothing to do with Arabs. Even Wadaad has more claim on it. Now do not derail my thread.

He doesnt speak Ancient Egyptian, ok...but neither do you speak Hittite, Greek, etc. ;)

[Pennywise]

He doesnt speak Ancient Egyptian, ok...but neither do you speak Hittite, Greek, etc. ;)

I don't claim them either.

[Black Panther]

Därför älskar jag Sverige. Vi tar hand om så många vi kan, med så mycket som vi har. Inget annat land skulle vara så generös.

[Lioncourt]

Egyptian, this used to be my signature for a LOOOONG time lmao. Beautiful picture

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e600c005b970c-600wi

This is how they integrate Slav immigrants, Mongolian camels.

[Maintenance]

Därför älskar jag Sverige. Vi tar hand om så många vi kan, med så mycket som vi har. Inget annat land skulle vara så generös.

Lol fu

[Black Panther]

Lol fu


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203734-Berathraban-Somalis-beat-the-shit-out-of-Swedish-cop&p=4746833#post4746833

[Kamal900]

Many Turkic peoples from central Asia that are living in Sweden will be happy as well.

[Kamal900]

You are an invader in Egypt. Egyptian civilization has nothing to do with Arabs. Even Wadaad has more claim on it. Now do not derail my thread.

They have genetic ties to them since they're mostly of Arabized native stock, and they have more right to call themselves Egyptians. Turks aren't better migrants in Europe themselves, especially in countries like Germany and the Netherlands.

[Kamal900]

Ungrateful Arab, you don't derserve neither Turkish nor Swedish hospitality :no:

Neither do Turks and other trashy migrants from the 3rd world that are living in Europe as well.

[Linebacker]

One unpleasant immigrant ethnicity attacks another.

Durkomans are no less cancer in other countries.

[Finnish Swede]

Därför älskar jag Sverige. Vi tar hand om så många vi kan, med så mycket som vi har. Inget annat land skulle vara så generös.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

[Kamal900]

One unpleasant immigrant ethnicity attacks another.

Durkomans are no less cancer in other countries.

Don't hurt his OWD ego. He's sensitive about that, especially if some White person insults his people
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg

[wvwvw]

Sweden Builds Camel Park to Help Integrate Migrants

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/12/sweden-camel-park-integrate-migrants/

https://camel4all.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/img_65161.jpg

https://files.foreignaffairs.com/styles/large-crop-landscape/s3/legacy/images/Eckman_stockholm.jpg?itok=9K9EmpPb

[wvwvw]

I didn't know camels could live in cold climates

Btw, Humans caught the common cold from camels, scientists discover

Experts warn the success of the cold virus in spreading across the world shows the potential for a pandemic by the deadly MERS virus, which also came from camels

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cold-camels-study-where-does-it-come-from-scientists-discover-mers-outbreak-a7198771.html

[Black Panther]

https://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

Sverige, ja!

[Kamal900]

I didn't know camels could live in cold climates

Btw, Humans caught the common cold from camels, scientists discover

Experts warn the success of the cold virus in spreading across the world shows the potential for a pandemic by the deadly MERS virus, which also came from camels

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cold-camels-study-where-does-it-come-from-scientists-discover-mers-outbreak-a7198771.html

Camels originated from the Americas which they share common ancestry with other Camelids like Alpacas, Llamas and so on. Camels actually used to live in the arctic, and the hump on it's back doesn't store water as what people commonly believe but rather fats that holds stored nutrients for the animal to survive long periods of time without eating and drinking:
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-camels-evolved-arctic-desert-2015-11

Very interesting stuff.

[Pahli]

Camels originated from the Americas which they share common ancestry with other Camelids like Alpacas, Llamas and so on. Camels actually used to live in the arctic, and the hump on it's back doesn't store water as what people commonly believe but rather fats that holds stored nutrients for the animal to survive long periods of time without eating and drinking:
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-camels-evolved-arctic-desert-2015-11

Very interesting stuff.

Its still amazing how they managed to adapt to the warm climates, you can basically bring them everywhere

[Kamal900]

Its still amazing how they managed to adapt to the warm climates, you can basically bring them everywhere

Indeed, and the ancient Arabs back in the day domesticated the dromedary or Arabian(one-hump) camels which enabled them to migrate to the Levant, Iraq and even North Africa as well. The Bactrian(two-hump) camels were domesticated by the ancient Caucasoid peoples of central Asia which is why you can find ancient Iranic peoples of central Asia riding the animal which later on brought them to the palace of Persepolis in ancient times, and even to places like Mongolia and China. It's very hardy and strong animal, espicially for transporting goods to long distances and so on. The word "Camel" derives from the Arabic word "Jamal" which derives from the Arabic word "Jamaal" which means beauty..And for starters, I don't find the Came beautiful. Just cute.

[Dandelion]

Sweden Builds Camel Park to Help Integrate Migrants

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/12/sweden-camel-park-integrate-migrants/

https://camel4all.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/img_65161.jpg


Camel is making them score with Scandinavian ladies.

[Kamal900]

Camel is making them score with Scandinavian ladies.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/f8/6f/1e/f86f1e57a4a519c8791f16dd708e8990--camel-cool-stuff.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

lol, I dont know if the new is true but in any case are Swedes ABSOLUTELY RETARD? is this the concept that Swedes have of "integration"??

What I mean is, is not supossed that those who have to integrate are the immigrants?? If not, if it is the natives who have to integrate, then this is clearly an invasion and so this should be called :mad:

[Kamal900]

lol, I dont know if the new is true but in any case are Swedes ABSOLUTELY RETARD? is this the concept that Swedes have of "integration"??

What I mean is, is not supossed that those who have to integrate are the immigrants?? If not, if it is the natives who have to integrate, then this is clearly an invasion and so this should be called :mad:

That's Sweden for you, man. It's too late for them to change the political atmosphere of the country.

[StonyArabia]

Camels are noble animals.

http://i63.tinypic.com/3a428.jpg

[Rumata]

And some Swedes are noble fools.

[StonyArabia]

Westerners like their Dogs,Cats, Pigs, and Horses
We like Cats, Camels, Horses, and Falcons

[NSXD60]

Goodbye Sweden, goodbye Europe, hello reverse evolution.

[Arduti]

They're assimilating. Shut it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_p33YiM0bDs/UdNw9WR1joI/AAAAAAAAQhU/T7k3lvmvhsU/s500/wfg1.gif

[StonyArabia]

Goodbye Sweden, goodbye Europe, hello reverse evolution.

There is nothing about reverse evolution, with having camels. Camels are like any other animal, and they are one of the most useful animal there is.

[Rumata]

We like western social programs which allow us to buy Cats, Camels, Horses, and Falcons

OK. Breeding camels in Asia and Africa would be a better idea than breeding Asians and Africans in Europe.

[StonyArabia]

OK. Breeding camels in Asia and Africa would be a better idea than breeding Asians and Africans in Europe.

Europe invited the Africans and Asians however

[Rumata]

Europe invited the Africans and Asians however

Just not the whole Europe but European governments which operate under globalist press. There are some useful fools who support these politics genuinely but many people do reject it too.

[Rumata]

Europe invited the Africans and Asians however

And what was the invitation exactly??
The fact they allow to stay doesn't mean they invite to come.

Invited guests don't come this way:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/05/25/16/boat_libya.jpg

[Aviator]

There is nothing about reverse evolution, with having camels. Camels are like any other animal, and they are one of the most useful animal there is.

I think he's referring more to the inferior people the Camels are meant to comfort.

[StonyArabia]

And what was the invitation exactly??
The fact they allow to stay doesn't mean they invite to come.

Invited guests don't come this way:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/05/25/16/boat_libya.jpg

Well originally Europe invited Africans and Asians to come and mostly because their Capitalist economy thrives on cheap labour and not to mention they needed these immigrants to fill the void that was left after world war II, hence why Germany for example invited Turkish guest workers. However many of these immigrants are coming from nations that European powers destroyed such as Iraq which was destroyed by the U.S, Britain, Australia and Poland, well NATO went into Libya and caused havoc, however many Sub-Saharans and Central/SouthAsian also are taking advantage of it. If Europe does not like it, then they should know what the consequence of wars that their big brother the U.S will be. Thus U.S, Britain, and any nation has participated in warfare against any of these nations does deserve the refugees, this how me and many Middle Easterners see it. The fact if there was no meddling in Mideast and North African affairs such situation would not have happened in the first place!

[wvwvw]

Also Somalis would feel more at home that way, for the camel is their national animal.

They can ride their camel to work

[Wadaad]

They can ride their camel to work

More like ride them for raids into neighboring Norway and finland.. poach some reindeer, capture a few skiiers, etc

[Rumata]

Well originally Europe invited Africans and Asians to come and mostly because their Capitalist economy thrives on cheap labour and not to mention they needed these immigrants to fill the void that was left after world war II, hence why Germany for example invited Turkish guest workers.

It's only partly true. Germany has welcomed Turks as temporary workers but Germans didn't ask them to settle there permanently and bring there dozens of their relatives. And then relatives of these relatives etc, etc.
Who else welcomed for labour?? and moreover for permanent settlement?

As for the present, western capitalists can easily fill their need in cheap labour by migrants from Eastern Europe, which would fully assimilate in second-third generation, don't cause nearly as much frictions and problems and look much closer. If they wished only that.



However many of these immigrants are coming from nations that European powers destroyed such as Iraq which was destroyed by the U.S, Britain, Australia and Poland, well NATO went into Libya and caused havoc, however many Sub-Saharans and Central/SouthAsian also are taking advantage of it. If Europe does not like it, then they should know what the consequence of wars that their big brother the U.S will be. Thus U.S, Britain, and any nation has participated in warfare against any of these nations does deserve the refugees, this how me and many Middle Easterners see it. The fact if there was no meddling in Mideast and North African affairs such situation would not have happened in the first place!

Haven't parts of local population welcomed the military western intervention? Those parts which took over power as the result. And as the war is over this reason loses it's validity, whichever it might has had.

You've mentioned Poland and it has very few migrants. While Sweden and Ireland has insane members of them even not being members of NATO. Sweden takes them more than NATO members. Your reason doesn't quite work.

[Magnolia]

I think immigrants should be reorient to moose. No camel wants to live in Sweden.
https://im.tiscali.cz/press/2013/11/29/164545-los-ilustracni-fotografie-653x367.jpg

[JohnSmith]

http://www.expressen.se/ledare/naomi-abramowicz/radda-fororten-fran-kamelmjolken/

Congrats. Make Arabs happy.

This sounds fucking ridiculous. Are the Swedes idiots do they have any integrity about their own culture.

[JohnSmith]

Europe invited the Africans and Asians however

They were not invited. That is just silly.

[JohnSmith]

Well originally Europe invited Africans and Asians to come and mostly because their Capitalist economy thrives on cheap labour and not to mention they needed these immigrants to fill the void that was left after world war II, hence why Germany for example invited Turkish guest workers. However many of these immigrants are coming from nations that European powers destroyed such as Iraq which was destroyed by the U.S, Britain, Australia and Poland, well NATO went into Libya and caused havoc, however many Sub-Saharans and Central/SouthAsian also are taking advantage of it. If Europe does not like it, then they should know what the consequence of wars that their big brother the U.S will be. Thus U.S, Britain, and any nation has participated in warfare against any of these nations does deserve the refugees, this how me and many Middle Easterners see it. The fact if there was no meddling in Mideast and North African affairs such situation would not have happened in the first place!

It certainly was a mistake to get involved in the middle east. But Europe and the USA CANNOT be the dumping ground for the whole world. There must be limits. The World cannot blame whitey for everything that is just not fair. When are the moderate Muslim going to step-up and actively push back against some of the harsh laws in the Muslim world. I just think more needs to be done. Now we have Turkey regressing,, it seems like one of the most progressive moderate Muslim countries in the world is now Indonesia.

[Finnish Swede]

I think immigrants should be reorient to moose. No camel wants to live in Sweden.
https://im.tiscali.cz/press/2013/11/29/164545-los-ilustracni-fotografie-653x367.jpg

Yes, and we have these too. Would't they suit just ok?

https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_884,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-8079023.jpg
http://www.suurpedot.fi/media/kuvat/susi/cache/susilauma_talvi_petola-780x440,c.jpg
Sometimes you can find them even at the same time (= Game of nerves):
http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/22054999_uu.jpg

[Rumata]

They were not invited. That is just silly.
Now, imagine what legends about their origin in Europe children of today migrants will retail in the future, when present time will be seen as a blear past.

[Kamal900]

I think immigrants should be reorient to moose. No camel wants to live in Sweden.
https://im.tiscali.cz/press/2013/11/29/164545-los-ilustracni-fotografie-653x367.jpg

The national symbol of Canada, lol. Indeed. As a "white camel", I don't want to live in Sweden either. Apart from the crime rate and the liberal atmosphere of the country, I don't like the climate in that country either. I feel much homey in countries like Cyprus.

[StonyArabia]

It's only partly true. Germany has welcomed Turks as temporary workers but Germans didn't ask them to settle there permanently and bring there dozens of their relatives. And then relatives of these relatives etc, etc.
Who else welcomed for labour?? and moreover for permanent settlement?

The Turks were welcomed as guest workers, but that was not enough to fill the void, especially after World War II. Well the companies and low end service jobs still wanted them. Well other so called immigrants like South Asians in Britain and North Africans in France were colonial subjects and thus were originally citizens of the British and French empires.


As for the present, western capitalists can easily fill their need in cheap labour by migrants from Eastern Europe, which would fully assimilate in second-third generation, don't cause nearly as much frictions and problems and look much closer. If they wished only that.

That does happen don't think it does not, however they still prefer non-European cheap labour as they can pay them less. Not all came as form cheap labour but rather some were colonial subjects of the European empires.


Haven't parts of local population welcomed the military western intervention? Those parts which took over power as the result. And as the war is over this reason loses it's validity, whichever it might has had.

That's no justification, such people have committed treason and there is a reason why they are extremely disliked. Of course they took power because they are traitors and puppets. This gives no justification for what the U.S, Britain, Poland, and Australia as well other European nations unleashing their barbarism on Iraq, and later as a result destabilizing the region, since that war kinda spilled over into Syria. Because of the Anglo-American destruction of Iraq, it effected the regions in negative way. The same is also true of what happened to Libya.


You've mentioned Poland and it has very few migrants. While Sweden and Ireland has insane members of them even not being members of NATO. Sweden takes them more than NATO members. Your reason doesn't quite work.

Poland like some Eastern European countries, is not wanted by the migrants themselves, because Eastern Europe is seen poor and not developed like Western Europe is. As for Sweden it took in migrants and refugees because it wanted to portray itself as humanitarian power, this why it did that, and like I have said not all migrants to Europe are from the Middle East, many of them are Sub-Saharan Africans, Central/South Asians who took advantage of the situation that the Anglo-Americans have unleashed on Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It actually does, but in reality the U.S and Britain should get the refugees, and no one told them to destroy once functioning nations like Iraq, but they clearly did for their geopolitical neo-colonial agenda and to secure their interest and proxies in the region. Thus most of us of Middle Eastern background look at the migrant crisis as a consequence of Neo-colonial imperialism, done the U.S and it's allies, and hence no sympathy, and that sympathy is reserved for the migrants and refugees that's the truth, of how many of us see it.

[JohnSmith]

The Turks were welcomed as guest workers, but that was not enough to fill the void, especially after World War II. Well the companies and low end service jobs still wanted them. Well other so called immigrants like South Asians in Britain and North Africans in France were colonial subjects and thus were originally citizens of the British and French empires.



That does happen don't think it does not, however they still prefer non-European cheap labour as they can pay them less. Not all came as form cheap labour but rather some were colonial subjects of the European empires.



That's no justification, such people have committed treason and there is a reason why they are extremely disliked. Of course they took power because they are traitors and puppets. This gives no justification for what the U.S, Britain, Poland, and Australia as well other European nations unleashing their barbarism on Iraq, and later as a result destabilizing the region, since that war kinda spilled over into Syria. Because of the Anglo-American destruction of Iraq, it effected the regions in negative way. The same is also true of what happened to Libya.



Poland like some Eastern European countries, is not wanted by the migrants themselves, because Eastern Europe is seen poor and not developed like Western Europe is. As for Sweden it took in migrants and refugees because it wanted to portray itself as humanitarian power, this why it did that, and like I have said not all migrants to Europe are from the Middle East, many of them are Sub-Saharan Africans, Central/South Asians who took advantage of the situation that the Anglo-Americans have unleashed on Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It actually does, but in reality the U.S and Britain should get the refugees, and no one told them to destroy once functioning nations like Iraq, but they clearly did for their geopolitical neo-colonial agenda and to secure their interest and proxies in the region. Thus most of us of Middle Eastern background look at the migrant crisis as a consequence of Neo-colonial imperialism, done the U.S and it's allies, and hence no sympathy, and that sympathy is reserved for the migrants and refugees that's the truth, of how many of us see it.

What about the Ottomans you seem to leave them out. They were imperial and controlled this land much longer than the British did.

[StonyArabia]

What about the Ottomans you seem to leave them out. They were imperial and controlled this land much longer than the British did.

The Ottomans were actually not that bad for the Arabians. The Ottomans often ruled indirectly in Arabia, though the tribal sheikhs. This was quite different how they ruled the Balkans. Not to mention the Ottomans could not subdue the Arabian tribesmen. Also the Ottomans for the most part treated their subjects as equals. However the Persian Safavids were quite brutal and are barbaric and are hated by people in Arabia, because of what they Safavid have done in Iraq and Bahrain.

However the British empire was also very negative, but they could not subdue the Arabian tribes, in fact the Arabian tribes inflicted often heavy damages to the British forces, thus the British left and often had installed puppets. That said the most negative influence on the Middle East is via the U.S and Britain, and their European allies who had unleashed this problem.

Spoken from the horses mouth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU0_6yPVCPQ

[JohnSmith]

The Ottomans were actually not that bad for the Arabians. The Ottomans often ruled indirectly in Arabia, though the tribal sheikhs. This was quite different how they ruled the Balkans. Not to mention the Ottomans could not subdue the Arabian tribesmen. Also the Ottomans for the most part treated their subjects as equals. However the Persian Safavids were quite brutal and are barbaric and are hated by people in Arabia, because of what they Safavid have done in Iraq and Bahrain.

However the British empire was also very negative, but they could not subdue the Arabian tribes, in fact the Arabian tribes inflicted often heavy damages to the British forces, thus the British left and often had installed puppets. That said the most negative influence on the Middle East is via the U.S and Britain, and their European allies who had unleashed this problem.

Spoken from the horses mouth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU0_6yPVCPQ


The Ottomans had strict laws against Christians they could not own weapons and the Armenians were systematically murdered in a way the British never engaged in. I do not see how the British were worse than them. You sound very anti-christian and anti-white. You might not realize it but you seem to blame white people for things and give the Muslims a pass.

[StonyArabia]

The Ottomans had strict laws against Christians they could not own weapons and the Armenians were systematically murdered in a way the British never engaged in. I do not see how the British were worse than them. You sound very anti-christian and anti-white. You might not realize it but you seem to blame white people for things and give the Muslims a pass.

The Ottomans were not liked in Arabia, hence why the Arab revolt occurred in 1916, plus before the any of their European subjects it was Yemen that revolted against the Ottomans, thus gaining it's independence but the British have also engaged in displacing the original people of Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I am not really fond of Christianity, but I am not anti-White, I am just pointing out why this situation happened, if Americans and Europeans don't like the tidal waves of these migrants, then they should simply tell their governments not to interfere with the Middle East and North Africa. If Iraq was not invaded, if Libya was not invaded, and if the Iraq war did not spill into Syria, these things would not happened in the first place. One has to ask the question where are these migrants coming from? It seems they all are coming from American and British invaded lands for the most part. Yet you won't see an Omani migrant because Oman relatively does well for itself and did not suffer much wars and destruction.

[JohnSmith]

The Ottomans were not liked in Arabia, hence why the Arab revolt occurred in 1916, plus before the any of their European subjects it was Yemen that revolted against the Ottomans, thus gaining it's independence but the British have also engaged in displacing the original people of Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I am not really fond of Christianity, but I am not anti-White, I am just pointing out why this situation happened, if Americans and Europeans don't like the tidal waves of these migrants, then they should simply tell their governments not to interfere with the Middle East and North Africa. If Iraq was not invaded, if Libya was not invaded, and if the Iraq war did not spill into Syria, these things would not happened in the first place. One has to ask the question where are these migrants coming from? It seems they all are coming from American and British invaded lands for the most part. Yet you won't see an Omani migrant because Oman relatively does well for itself and did not suffer much wars and destruction.

But why are they ultimately leaving?? ISIS and radical Muslims and dictatorships where they kill their own people. At some point the Muslim world needs to reform and become moderates. You cannot blame everything on the West. You are completely ignoring the fact that Radical religious nuts in your part of the world is a problem.

The Syrian Migrants among others, especially the Men are pussies and afraid to stay and fight for their people. They would rather flee to Europe. In the USA we fought for our independence from within.

[StonyArabia]

But why are they ultimately leaving?? ISIS and radical Muslims and dictatorships where they kill their own people. At some point the Muslim world needs to reform and become moderates.

That's indeed true, but without intervention these groups would have not have appeared. Most of the dictatorships were actually quite secular and if you stayed away from political life, you lived pretty well regardless of what your ethnic/religious affiliation was in Iraq for example, the same goes to Libya and Syria.


You cannot blame everything on the West. You are completely ignoring the fact that Radical religious nuts in your part of the world is a problem.

Of course not all problems from the West, but the colonial and neo-colonial legacy are there. However yes there needs to be reform on the socio-cultural level in the Mideast and North Africa, and it already starting to happen.



The Syrian Migrants among others, especially the Men are pussies and afraid to stay and fight for their people. They would rather flee to Europe. In the USA we fought for our independence from within.

I am not Syrian, and you won't find most people from my ethnicity to be in Europe, most are found in the Gulf region, and North America, very few of my ethnicity in Europe. For example most of Swedish Iraqis are not of Bedouin origins, but rather are Kurds and Turkmens, with minority of Shia Arabs. However again most of the so called Syrian migrant men, are actually not Syrian but rather from all over Africa , Central/South Asia, which have skewed the demographics as most Syrian migrants who came often were families who were escaping from the civil war. I agree that they should fight for freedom if they choose to stand up against tyranny. My people fought and were not easily subdued by anyone.

[Rumata]

The Turks were welcomed as guest workers, but that was not enough to fill the void, especially after World War II. Well the companies and low end service jobs still wanted them.
I don't say they were unwanted there, but name me one who made plans to settle them permanently by millions.


Well other so called immigrants like South Asians in Britain and North Africans in France were colonial subjects and thus were originally citizens of the British and French empires.
Even if they were citizens in the past. This time is gone, so what is your point?
Also, many migrants never were citizens of European colonies. Sweden's had no colonies in the recent past and hardly any at all.


That does happen don't think it does not, however they still prefer non-European cheap labour as they can pay them less.
I don't buy it, because they can't pay them less than the EU minimum which is enough to attract guest workers from Eastern Europe.


That's no justification, such people have committed treason and there is a reason why they are extremely disliked. Of course they took power because they are traitors and puppets. This gives no justification for what the U.S, Britain, Poland, and Australia as well other European nations unleashing their barbarism on Iraq, and later as a result destabilizing the region, since that war kinda spilled over into Syria. Because of the Anglo-American destruction of Iraq, it effected the regions in negative way. The same is also true of what happened to Libya.
You can just as well call traitors European politicians who are responsible for the massive foreign invasion on their soil. Will you? They are extremely disliked too.
Anyway, as a war is over, there's no reason to hide in a foreign refuge, do you agree?? One can't be considered a refugee anymore if there's no humanitarian disaster in ones land.


Poland like some Eastern European countries, is not wanted by the migrants themselves, because Eastern Europe is seen poor and not developed like Western Europe is. As for Sweden it took in migrants and refugees because it wanted to portray itself as humanitarian power, this why it did that, and like I have said not all migrants to Europe are from the Middle East, many of them are Sub-Saharan Africans, Central/South Asians who took advantage of the situation that the Anglo-Americans have unleashed on Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It actually does, but in reality the U.S and Britain should get the refugees, and no one told them to destroy once functioning nations like Iraq, but they clearly did for their geopolitical neo-colonial agenda and to secure their interest and proxies in the region. Thus most of us of Middle Eastern background look at the migrant crisis as a consequence of Neo-colonial imperialism, done the U.S and it's allies, and hence no sympathy, and that sympathy is reserved for the migrants and refugees that's the truth, of how many of us see it.
OK, you've said it yourself. Migrants prefer Sweden to Poland to be provided with more benefits. Also, some of the migrants from bombed countries like Iraq and Syria choose Sweden over NATO members. Do you think they should go to NATO countries instead and/or move home as the war ends there?

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Sweden is screwed. The mainstream media has not mentioned much about all the recent bomb attacks that they have been going through the past few days.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/874898/Breaking-Sweden-explosion-Malm-Europe-nightclub-police-bomb

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/18/attack-democracy-bombing-swedish-police-station-may-terror/

[StonyArabia]

I don't say they were unwanted there, but name me one who made plans to settle them permanently by millions.

I do know that the Germans originally invited the Turks. Even Angela Merkel said we believed they will go home, but they are here to stay.



Even if they were citizens in the past. This time is gone, so what is your point?

These non-Whites such as North Africans and South Asians and to lesser extent Africans are a result of the European empires and there descendants now are citizens of the respective colonial nations. The time might be gone, but certainly not it's legacy.


Also, many migrants never were citizens of European colonies. Sweden's had no colonies in the recent past and hardly any at all.

I was referring to Britain and France, as well other Western nations who did. Sure Sweden did not have the colonies, however it choose to put itself through this situation, because it wants to appear as the humanitarian power


I don't buy it, because they can't pay them less than the EU minimum which is enough to attract guest workers from Eastern Europe.

Well there many other factors.



You can just as well call traitors European politicians who are responsible for the massive foreign invasion on their soil. Will you? They are extremely disliked too.

Of course they will be disliked, because there is large wave of migrants, and I would not call it an invasion. If you want to see what a real invasion looks like, then see the Iraq war of 2003. These people are just escaping the hell that was unleashed on them.


Anyway, as a war is over, there's no reason to hide in a foreign refuge, do you agree?? One can't be considered a refugee anymore if there's no humanitarian disaster in ones land.

If the war is over, I believe these people should go back to their nation and rebuild it. Well there are different types of refugees, but if the situation improves most people would like to go into their own land, because that's how it's naturally.



OK, you've said it yourself. Migrants prefer Sweden to Poland to be provided with more benefits. Also, some of the migrants from bombed countries like Iraq and Syria choose Sweden over NATO members. Do you think they should go to NATO countries instead and/or move home as the war ends there?

It's not only due to benefits, because it's more complex, it's also Sweden trying to show itself as world power through humanitarianism. I believe ideally that NATO nations especially Britain and U.S are responsible for this situation, and this why they should be the ones taking responsibility for the refugees and the so called migrant crisis. However since many refugees from Syria and Iraq are in Sweden, Germany and so on, I believe they should stay there, until the war ends and their nations rebuild. I believe Britain and the U.S should get these refugees and even provide compensation.

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I do know that the Germans originally invited the Turks. Even Angela Merkel said we believed they will go home, but they are here to stay.

So, you see that no one invited them there for good. Besides Germans only invited workers, but most of current Turkish population in Germany is probably not those workers, but relatives who were invited by those workers. Or relatives of relatives who already became residents, etc.


These non-Whites such as North Africans and South Asians and to lesser extent Africans are a result of the European empires and there descendants now are citizens of the respective colonial nations. The time might be gone, but certainly not it's legacy.

So what? Now, they are citizens of different sovereign states, that's what matters. So, in my childhood, I could easily travel to Lithuania and live there as long as I wished but now I can't even enter it without a visa as now it's a different state. Is it hard to grasp?


I was referring to Britain and France, as well other Western nations who did. Sure Sweden did not have the colonies, however it choose to put itself through this situation, because it wants to appear as the humanitarian power

The matter is migrants ignore the fact that many Swedes don't want them in Sweden as it doesn't suit them. They pass NATO countries to get to Sweden. No one sends them invitations.
If you choose to respect decisions of the hated government of Sweden, you should also respect decisions of hated government of Libya. Just to be fair.


Of course they will be disliked, because there is large wave of migrants, and I would not call it an invasion. If you want to see what a real invasion looks like, then see the Iraq war of 2003. These people are just escaping the hell that was unleashed on them.

You forget that many of them just had unleashed that hell on themselves. Particularly sub-Saharan and East Africans. Yes, it's an invasion too, and they are armed with wombs and savageness, which is bad enough for some meek western societies.
Western invasion to MENA is destructive but it leaves no western residents unlike the backward invasion which leaves dozens of millions of residents.


If the war is over, I believe these people should go back to their nation and rebuild it. Well there are different types of refugees, but if the situation improves most people would like to go into their own land, because that's how it's naturally.

OK. When the wars are over, let's if they are willing to come back and what will be done to do it.


It's not only due to benefits, because it's more complex, it's also Sweden trying to show itself as world power through humanitarianism. I believe ideally that NATO nations especially Britain and U.S are responsible for this situation, and this why they should be the ones taking responsibility for the refugees and the so called migrant crisis. However since many refugees from Syria and Iraq are in Sweden, Germany and so on, I believe they should stay there, until the war ends and their nations rebuild. I believe Britain and the U.S should get these refugees and even provide compensation.

I care little about how U. S. and C fix their shit but I see no reason for refugees to stay in countries like Sweden and come there at all (show me one). I believe the government of Sweden shows the world that it's capable of destruction of the once advanced country in the shortest time. It's anti-humanitarianism against the own population.
What is there besides benefits that makes refugees go to Sweden instead of NATO countries?

[Sarmatian]

Yep, they should start with the difference between camel and woman.

They will just establish special brothels for immigrants. No women will work there, only camels.

[StonyArabia]

So, you see that no one invited them there for good. Besides Germans only invited workers, but most of current Turkish population in Germany is probably not those workers, but relatives who were invited by those workers. Or relatives of relatives who already became residents, etc.

That's probably true, but it's to late for the Germans to send them back to Turkey. Anyways when Turkey's economy improved many returned back to it.




So what? Now, they are citizens of different sovereign states, that's what matters. So, in my childhood, I could easily travel to Lithuania and live there as long as I wished but now I can't even enter it without a visa as now it's a different state. Is it hard to grasp?

That's true, however many of the so called immigrants are actually descendants of the colonial subjects like North Africans and South Asians. Not it is not, and they are a legacy of the colonial rule, just like the Russian minorities are legacy of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union in other parts of Eastern Europe like the Baltic nations.



The matter is migrants ignore the fact that many Swedes don't want them in Sweden as it doesn't suit them. They pass NATO countries to get to Sweden. No one sends them invitations.
If you choose to respect decisions of the hated government of Sweden, you should also respect decisions of hated government of Libya. Just to be fair.

Well I agree, but the fact most of them don't want to end up in Sweden pre se, many want to go to Britain, France, and western Europe in general. However Sweden choose that, mostly the Swedish government. The Swedes can out vote their politicians and also they should put pressure on the Western NATO members not to intervene in the Middle East and North Africa. There is no doubt that the Swedish government is hated by large number of it's people, just like the Libyan government which has become chaotic after the NATO invasion and deposing of Ghaddaffi.


You forget that many of them just had unleashed that hell on themselves. Particularly sub-Saharan and East Africans. Yes, it's an invasion too, and they are armed with wombs and savageness, which is bad enough for some meek western societies.
Western invasion to MENA is destructive but it leaves no western residents unlike the backward invasion which leaves dozens of millions of residents.

That is true indeed in the case of Africa. However in the case of North Africa and the Middle East, it was largely U.S and Britain destructive policies that created this situation. After the U.S and Britain as well NATO destroyed once functioning government of Iraq and Libya, and then this spilled into Syria. Not to mention that war of 2003 was the most destructive war to date. After because of geopolitical plunders, the Iraqi civil war created by the U.S would spill into Syria, thus inflaming the region. If the U.S and the Western did not invade the Mideast there would not have been such a migrant crisis in the first place. With the destruction of the Libyan government, more and more East and SSA Africans began to take an advantage of the situation, the same was also true of South/Central Asians who were coming via Turkey, due to the Syrian crisis. Iraq was totally destroyed. I would not call MENA savages, the savages and barbarians who had invaded their land to secure their interest and plunder their oil. Well I agree that womb might become a weapon, but usually MENA birth rates would follow suit of the native population, but Europeans should themselves make babies. MENA's have also been successful in the Western nations especially in Britain and U.S even being more successful than the White population.



OK. When the wars are over, let's if they are willing to come back and what will be done to do it.

Most of them want to return to their homeland, however there are other facts that will not let them do it. That is American and Western intervention in general in those regions. In which has proved more destructive than anything else. Thus there will be civil wars that will plunge these nations for years to come. However if it actually ends, and their nations economically recover most of them would return back to their homeland. Ask yourself is there an Omani migrant into Europe and the West? The answer there is not, because Oman as country relatively does well for itself so there is no need for immigrants. Before the Anglo-Americans waging 40 years war on Iraq. Iraq had been much better than Oman, and there was no migrants from it to Europe or North America, only after it suffered heavy wars, then you have found migrants coming out. However the situation in North Africa different.




I care little about how U. S. and C fix their shit but I see no reason for refugees to stay in countries like Sweden and come there at all (show me one). I believe the government of Sweden shows the world that it's capable of destruction of the once advanced country in the shortest time. It's anti-humanitarianism against the own population.

Caring little to how the U.S and Britain fix the problem created, means that you don't truly care about the migrant crisis that has befallen Europe, which largely has fallen to other parts of Europe. I would not call Sweden the most advanced nation, sure it's quite advanced but I would say that title still goes to Germany, Britain, France and Italy. That's the problem of the Swedish government which has decided to act as humanitarian world power, and if you think about it has a racist tint itself, and lets not forget they can be out voted if the Swedish people choose to.


that is there besides benefits that makes refugees go to Sweden instead of NATO countries?

Benefit are part of it, sure, however many go to Britain, France and other NATO based nations. Also many of them want to go to North America. However none of them want to to Europe in general as in Eastern Europe. They just use it as as transit point. Sweden is not the only nation, since it choose to put itself through itself ie Swedish government, there many refugees who came to Canada and the U.S , but for the most part it's also distance to Europe is closer than that of North America. For example not all refugees even went to Europe many went to other Arab countries like Saudi Arabia,despite what the Western media says. Not to mention that Saudi Arabia had taken lots of Iraqi refugees before, but it was the Western nations that decided to take them, alongside Brazil. Thus it's more complex than oh I want benefits from Sweden. MENA's for the most part are hard working people especially Syrians and Iraqis. Trust me there are no benefits in Saudi Arabia. Despite the fact Saudi Arabia and the Gulf nations did not sign the 1951 Refugee Convention in the U.N, they still did. However a large wave of the refugees are from Sub-Saharan Africa, North Africa, South Asia, Central Asia who have take advantage of the situation and thus are entering Europe. All of this would have been avoided if the Libyan government was not destroyed, if Iraq was not brutalized, and it's war spilling over into Syria.

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That's probably true, but it's to late for the Germans to send them back to Turkey. Anyways when Turkey's economy improved many returned back to it.
You say many returned to Turkey but their absolute number in Germany is growing fast AFAIK.
Erdogan calls on Turkish families in Europe to have five children to protect against 'injustices' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/17/erdogan-calls-turkish-families-have-five-children-bulwark-against/)
And no, it's never too late to return. Why would that be?


That's true, however many of the so called immigrants are actually descendants of the colonial subjects like North Africans and South Asians. Not it is not, and they are a legacy of the colonial rule, just like the Russian minorities are legacy of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union in other parts of Eastern Europe like the Baltic nations.

No matter what "legacy". They've chosen their countries to be independent and they can't undo that. Neither the Russian minorities in foreign countries have the same rights and possibilities as Russians residing in Russia. They are foreign citizens. Period. Until they change the citizenship. Are we clear here?



Well I agree, but the fact most of them don't want to end up in Sweden pre se, many want to go to Britain, France, and western Europe in general. However Sweden choose that, mostly the Swedish government. The Swedes can out vote their politicians and also they should put pressure on the Western NATO members not to intervene in the Middle East and North Africa. There is no doubt that the Swedish government is hated by large number of it's people, just like the Libyan government which has become chaotic after the NATO invasion and deposing of Ghaddaffi.

The Swedish government uses media to manipulate the public opinion. The criticism of migrant politic is largely outlawed. Not to say it gets its votes in a closed ballot... which never guarantees the non-falsified result.

Sweden is located further from MENA and Africa than European NATO members. Migrants would certainly stopped in NATO countries if it were their destination, no matter what Swedish government has to say on the issue. Got it?
I guess the Swedish government is nothing to U. S. to meddle in American politics.


That is true indeed in the case of Africa. However in the case of North Africa and the Middle East, it was largely U.S and Britain destructive policies that created this situation. After the U.S and Britain as well NATO destroyed once functioning government of Iraq and Libya, and then this spilled into Syria. Not to mention that war of 2003 was the most destructive war to date. After because of geopolitical plunders, the Iraqi civil war created by the U.S would spill into Syria, thus inflaming the region. If the U.S and the Western did not invade the Mideast there would not have been such a migrant crisis in the first place. With the destruction of the Libyan government, more and more East and SSA Africans began to take an advantage of the situation, the same was also true of South/Central Asians who were coming via Turkey, due to the Syrian crisis. Iraq was totally destroyed. I would not call MENA savages, the savages and barbarians who had invaded their land to secure their interest and plunder their oil. Well I agree that womb might become a weapon, but usually MENA birth rates would follow suit of the native population, but Europeans should themselves make babies. MENA's have also been successful in the Western nations especially in Britain and U.S even being more successful than the White population.

Indeed the wars in MENA countries can be the pretext to open doors for immigration.


I would not call MENA savages
You wouldn't as you have to stay loyal to MENA people. But I would:
No more asylum seekers from Morocco, says Germany's most populous state citing crime (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12163601/No-more-asylum-seekers-from-Morocco-says-Germanys-most-populous-state-citing-crime.html)


Most of them want to return to their homeland, however there are other facts that will not let them do it. That is American and Western intervention in general in those regions. In which has proved more destructive than anything else. Thus there will be civil wars that will plunge these nations for years to come. However if it actually ends, and their nations economically recover most of them would return back to their homeland. Ask yourself is there an Omani migrant into Europe and the West? The answer there is not, because Oman as country relatively does well for itself so there is no need for immigrants. Before the Anglo-Americans waging 40 years war on Iraq. Iraq had been much better than Oman, and there was no migrants from it to Europe or North America, only after it suffered heavy wars, then you have found migrants coming out. However the situation in North Africa different.

OK, but they shouldn't just wait when their countries are recovered economically. If they care about their homeland they should come and help it to recover as soon as possible. Particularly, considering many of them are young people full of energy.


Caring little to how the U.S and Britain fix the problem created, means that you don't truly care about the migrant crisis that has befallen Europe, which largely has fallen to other parts of Europe. I would not call Sweden the most advanced nation, sure it's quite advanced but I would say that title still goes to Germany, Britain, France and Italy. That's the problem of the Swedish government which has decided to act as humanitarian world power, and if you think about it has a racist tint itself, and lets not forget they can be out voted if the Swedish people choose to.

Don't you believe in democracy to much for a MENA man? MENA way seems to be dictatorship... I don't believe it myself, but it's because the voting is closed from the people.
Swedish government decided to finish Swedish nation it seems.


Benefit are part of it, sure, however many go to Britain, France and other NATO based nations. Also many of them want to go to North America. However none of them want to to Europe in general as in Eastern Europe. They just use it as as transit point. Sweden is not the only nation, since it choose to put itself through itself ie Swedish government, there many refugees who came to Canada and the U.S , but for the most part it's also distance to Europe is closer than that of North America. For example not all refugees even went to Europe many went to other Arab countries like Saudi Arabia,despite what the Western media says. Not to mention that Saudi Arabia had taken lots of Iraqi refugees before, but it was the Western nations that decided to take them, alongside Brazil. Thus it's more complex than oh I want benefits from Sweden. MENA's for the most part are hard working people especially Syrians and Iraqis. Trust me there are no benefits in Saudi Arabia. Despite the fact Saudi Arabia and the Gulf nations did not sign the 1951 Refugee Convention in the U.N, they still did. However a large wave of the refugees are from Sub-Saharan Africa, North Africa, South Asia, Central Asia who have take advantage of the situation and thus are entering Europe. All of this would have been avoided if the Libyan government was not destroyed, if Iraq was not brutalized, and it's war spilling over into Syria.
OK, I largely agree, but I still don't see what allures the refugees in Sweden, except the social benefits. I see that Arabic countries are close to them culturally, though.

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PeterSweden
Thanks for watching, please share with all your friends. The truth about the hidden agenda needs to be spread. If you want to support real independent journalism, you can help me out here:...


PeterSweden
Please share this video with all your friends. The truth about the hidden agenda of the migrant crisis needs to be spread. The MSM will not tell you this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygH8VHjcXQc



The World Is On Fire
3430 Rapes in first 6 months of 2017!!?? WTF!!?? I literally had to pause it there so I could think... omg


Mattias Dahlström
That is reported rapes - the true number is higher.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBL4PP7gXOQ



corinne davidge
WHY IS THE REST OF THE WORLD NOT HEARING THIS ON OUR CRAP MAIN MEDIA? We went on britain first rally today its shocking here in london too i want to scream all this madness & raping & killling of our nationals!!!!!!! Thank u peter


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-GQeBo0Dg

[Petros Houhoulis]

http://www.expressen.se/ledare/naomi-abramowicz/radda-fororten-fran-kamelmjolken/

Congrats. Make Arabs happy.

...This is a ploy to get the Turks extinct.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DeOdovU94