Can you believe this guy is more Euro than me?

[Dominicanese]

Can you believe this guy is more Euro than me?

im 60% Euro, 30% African (3% N.African), 9% Native, 1% West Asian



this guy right here Neguinho da Beija-Flor is 67.1% Euro, 31.5% African, 1.4% Native

http://sambarazzo.com.br/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Neguinho-da-Beija-Flor_capa2.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/yOGdj9wWrRffPuA_4k3ZuNpbhZg=/620x390/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2013/06/30/neguinho_beijaflor_felippecosta.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xIG2sdcgq-w/maxresdefault.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/lp-vinil-neguinho-da-beija-flor-a-voz-da-massa-1986-D_NQ_NP_20948-MLB20201273914_112014-F.jpg

[Hadouken]

im 60% Euro, 30% African (3% N.African), 9% Native, 1% West Asian





http://i.imgur.com/55MWqhs.png

[Kriptc06]

he looks like 80+ % african, what the hell, are you sure?

[Dominicanese]

he looks like 80+ % african, what the hell, are you sure?

yeah

crazy right

[Iloko]

Phenomenal!

Lol I just checked the date and yes it ain't April 1st indeed lol.

[Argentano]

old studies with few markers have all absurd results. Dont even pay them attention.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?186507-Importance-of-the-amount-of-Ancestry-Informative-Markers-in-New-World-Genetic-Studies

[VelvetNono2]

His name is Neguinho da Beija-Flor. He's a Brazilian singer. Yeah, apparently those are his results. I found it through this link (if you can read Portuguese): http://www.bbc.com/portuguese/reporterbbc/story/2007/05/070424_dna_neguinho_cg.shtml

This is just one example of how one's genotype doesn't equate to one's phenotype. There are people like him (believe it or not), so it's not totally impossible for people to look like that.

[Lucas]

It's not common but maybe he has in this 30% SSA part more SNP's responsible for pigmentation than you.

One of your parent was darker than you? Or bot were the same?

[cosmoo]

It's not common but maybe he has in this 30% SSA part more SNP's responsible for pigmentation than you.
It's not only pigmentational, but also by metrics and soft body part morphology he looks tenfold more SSA than OP.
Fallacies of "muh little autozomal kalkulator" people just keep piling up.

[Dominicanese]

It's not common but maybe he has in this 30% SSA part more SNP's responsible for pigmentation than you.

One of your parent was darker than you? Or bot were the same?

we'er all the same color except for my brother he's a little darker than the three of us (my parents & me)

but my grandfather is black

[Lucas]

It's not only pigmentational, but also by metrics and soft body part morphology he looks tenfold more SSA than OP.
Fallacies of "muh little autozomal kalkulator" people just keep piling up.

So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.

[Argentano]

The autosomal results change A LOT whether they use 10AIMs or 1.000AIMs. Different Genetic tests are not comparable.

[Heather Duval]

Can you believe this guy is more Euro than me?

im 60% Euro, 30% African (3% N.African), 9% Native, 1% West Asian


this guy right here Neguinho da Beija-Flor is 67.1% Euro, 31.5% African, 1.4% Native

http://sambarazzo.com.br/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Neguinho-da-Beija-Flor_capa2.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/yOGdj9wWrRffPuA_4k3ZuNpbhZg=/620x390/s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2013/06/30/neguinho_beijaflor_felippecosta.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xIG2sdcgq-w/maxresdefault.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/lp-vinil-neguinho-da-beija-flor-a-voz-da-massa-1986-D_NQ_NP_20948-MLB20201273914_112014-F.jpg
Ive read this article about his dna test and i dont think is real, dont trust much in brazilian media.

[cosmoo]

So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.

If a "gene" doesn't contribute to anything functional, then it doesn't make you "closer" to a population, period. Those "aDNA clusterings" are completely different to phenotypes far too often, it couldn't be that those genes every single time stand for "internal enzymes" or other supposed abstract and still non-defined traits. If your whole body is of different shape and functions different to that of someone else's, no amount of "muh gedmach kalkulator" will make you close to him.

[Tobi]

This brazilian geneticist, Sergio Pena, is a joke. Don't believe in his results.

[Lucas]

If a "gene" doesn't contribute to anything functional, then it doesn't make you "closer" to a population, period. Those "aDNA clusterings" are completely different to phenotypes far too often, it couldn't be that those genes every single time stand for "internal enzymes" or other supposed abstract and still non-defined traits. If your whole body is of different shape and functions different to that of someone else's, no amount of "muh gedmach kalkulator" will make you close to him.

You like it or not but whole gemdatch calcs (and FTDNA or 23&ME tools) cluster you according to whole 22 chromosomes, not only to your "pheno" EDAR or OCA2 SNP's or sth like that.

BTW this is Litvin thread wit PCA based on "pheno" SNP's http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?200072-PCA-graphs-based-on-phenotype-SNPs

I suppose you did the test and you are not very happy from the results (too many East-Med?) so you dismiss now it completely...

[cosmoo]

You like it or not but whole gemdatch calcs (and FTDNA or 23&ME tools) cluster you according to whole 22 chromosomes, not only to your "pheno" EDAR or OCA2 SNP's or sth like that.

BTW this is Litvin thread wit PCA based on "pheno" SNP's http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?200072-PCA-graphs-based-on-phenotype-SNPs

I suppose you did the test and you are not very happy from the results (too many East-Med?) so you dismiss now it completely...

Apparently a lot of quite non-functional genes enter those calculations. My point is, if you don't look and your body doesn't function identically to certain population, then you are not related to it, no matter what. 99% of mammals are classed using those criteria. If those calculators and anthropology don't match (like they often don't), I will rather pick something having an actual functional role rather than inaccurate, abstract and non-functional fuckery.
Phenotype SNP PCA Litvin posted has no touch with reality, I think you will agree.
I dismiss a big part of this whole thing for another reason. I have never tested for autosomal. There is possibility I'll do it in future just for fun. Neither do I believe results are accurate enough nor can I wait that long for results, though.
Still, better off than all those "LOOK HOW NORTHERN I CLUSTER, I ARE KANGZ" autistic genotards I'm getting sick of. I suppose they need a mechanism to cope with their inherent inferiority.

Edit: Just to mention few fallacies I often like mentioning: how do you explain that, by MDLP calculator, we are closer to Romanians, southern Germans, and Gagauz, than to Bosnians (with whom we are undoubtedly closer in every regard)? Or that we cluster closer to NW Europeans than Albanians?
Also, how come that on some calculators Spaniards cluster closer to Norwegians than to southern Italians, as Sikeliot pointed out?

Those are just some of many, many total fantasies that resulted from those supposed "autosomal analyses".

[Tschaikisten]

The guy is great example of all stupidity of autosomal calculators.

[Dominicanese]

So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.

internally

i have sickle cell traits unfortunately, it runs in my blood, i cannot mate with another woman who has the samething to produce an offspring

[Purohit ji]

Amazing. If its real.

[LieDetector]

Amazing. If its real.

Do you still crush gracile skulls for a living?

[Purohit ji]

Do you still crush gracile skulls for a living?
Lol no. I left that inhumane job