Post your GEDMATCH Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer results

[Lucas]

Anatolian Farmer 9.25
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 67.18
Middle Eastern Herder 2.85
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.63
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.63
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 18.72
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.74
Bantu Farmer -

[Iloko]

Anatolian Farmer 1.34
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 1.39
Middle Eastern Herder 0.83
East Asian Farmer 86.64
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.44
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 4.87
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 3.55
Mediterranean Farmer 0.32
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.34
Bantu Farmer 0.28

[Hadouken]

Population

Anatolian Farmer 51.36
Middle Eastern Herder 17.15
Mediterranean Farmer 15.85
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 7.45
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 4.06
East Asian Farmer 1.28
Bantu Farmer 1.22
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.92
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.70
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -

[de Burgh II]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 9.27
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 51.76
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.14
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.65
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.08
Mediterranean Farmer 36.97
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.10
Bantu Farmer -

[Peterski]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 10.23
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 64.45
Middle Eastern Herder 1.18
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.33
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.55
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 23.03
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.23
Bantu Farmer -

[gültekin]

Anatolian Farmer 37.13
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 14.79
Middle Eastern Herder 11.39
East Asian Farmer 5.91
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.01
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 4.63
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 4.62
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.92
Mediterranean Farmer 19.52
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.10
Bantu Farmer -

[firemonkey]

FTDNA


Anatolian Farmer 7.55
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 57.82
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.07
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.31
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.24
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 31.57
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.44
Bantu Farmer -


23andMe

Anatolian Farmer 7.76
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 58.06
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.02
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.82
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.32
East African Pastoralist 0.11
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 31.33
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.60
Bantu Farmer -


Ancestry

Anatolian Farmer 7.61
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 58.18
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.10
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.12
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.31
East African Pastoralist 0.09
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 31.23
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.37
Bantu Farmer -


Father FTDNA

Anatolian Farmer 8.58
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 57.65
Middle Eastern Herder 0.48
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.79
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 32.50
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Mechanolater]

Anatolian Farmer 11.29
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 31.33
Middle Eastern Herder 2.57
East Asian Farmer 9.45
South American Hunter Gatherer 9.28
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.47
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 2.54
East African Pastoralist 2.70
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.12
Mediterranean Farmer 27.33
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.48
Bantu Farmer 2.44

[Didriksson]

Latvian:

Anatolian Farmer 4.27
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 77.57
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.37
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.81
Mediterranean Farmer 15.98

Swedish/Finnish

Anatolian Farmer 1.27
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 74.87
Middle Eastern Herder 0.89
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.10
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.58
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 4.54
East African Pastoralist 0.39
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.12
Mediterranean Farmer 15.24

[Hadouken]

I wonder if any member will score more Anatolian Farmer than me

[Petalpusher]

This thing is outdated by 3 generations of calculators at Eurogenes, K7ANE, K13/15, K7BR.

[Kriptc06]

Anatolian Farmer 8.99
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 27.12
Middle Eastern Herder 8.91
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 12.42
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.77
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.12
East African Pastoralist 0.68
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 30.39
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.93
Bantu Farmer 9.63

[Deniz]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 26.63
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 33.75
Middle Eastern Herder 8.82
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.49
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 5.25
East African Pastoralist 0.78
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 24.28
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Dick]

Anatolian Farmer 100
Baltic Hunter Gatherer -
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer -
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[noricum]

Anatolian Farmer 9.94
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 56.42
Middle Eastern Herder 3.93
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.31
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.31
Mediterranean Farmer 28.08
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[DRUM]

Anatolian Farmer 22.92%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 27.69%
Middle Eastern Herder 12.34%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.54%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 36.52%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Lucas]

This thing is outdated by 3 generations of calculators at Eurogenes, K7ANE, K13/15, K7BR.

I don't think so.

In Eu ANE K7 I had such results (three largest)
WHG-UHG 66.34
ANE 18.02
ENF 12.02

Hunter vs Farmer
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 67.18 (nearly the same)
Mediterranean Farmer 18.72
Anatolian Farmer 9.25

Apparently some ANE is hidden in Farmer in this calc. But HG is pretty the same.

[Petalpusher]

I don't think so.

In Eu ANE K7 I had such results (three largest)
WHG-UHG 66.34
ANE 18.02
ENF 12.02

Hunter vs Farmer
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 67.18 (nearly the same)
Mediterranean Farmer 18.72
Anatolian Farmer 9.25

Apparently some ANE is hidden in Farmer in this calc. But HG is pretty the same.

They are both outdated, this one even more so as it was before the release of the genomes from CHG, NAF, Villabruna, etc.. even Iran_N. It's not entirely wrong but things are not what they are called here.

There s no ANE in the farmer, if anything some of your ANE is hiding in the Baltic HG.

[Rius]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 40.65
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 15.78
Middle Eastern Herder 15.71
East Asian Farmer 4.82
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.54
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.20
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 18.99
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 2.30
Bantu Farmer -

[Norka]

Anatolian Farmer 10.26
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 64.78
Middle Eastern Herder 1.24
East Asian Farmer 1.47
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.36
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 8.21
East African Pastoralist 0.10
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.62
Mediterranean Farmer 12.96
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Lucas]

They are both outdated, this one even more so as it was before the release of the genomes from CHG, NAF, Villabruna, etc.. even Iran_N. It's not entirely wrong but things are not what they are called here.

There s no ANE in the farmer, if anything some of your ANE is hiding in the Baltic HG.
Ok, what calc do you suggest instead of? For example in MDLP K11 Modern I have

1 WHG 41.24
2 Neolithic 27.04
3 EHG 25.84

So WHg + EHG is again about 67%, so nearly the same amount of summarized HG ancestry as in ANE K7 and Eu Hunter vs Farmer.

In Puntdnal K12 Ancient European HG 45,78% + Caucasus HG 19,05 = about 65% HG.

In Eurasia K10 CHG I have

1 WHG 43.74
2 CHG 19.37
3 EHG 15.14
4 Anatolian_Farmers 14.74
5 SW_Asian 4.59

So again WHG + CHG = 63%. With EHG it is even 78%....

[Petalpusher]

Ok, what calc do you suggest instead of? For example in MDLP K11 Modern I have

1 WHG 41.24
2 Neolithic 27.04
3 EHG 25.84

So WHg + EHG is again about 67%, so nearly the same amount of summarized HG ancestry as in ANE K7 and Eu Hunter vs Farmer.

So then you cannot compare to your K7 WHG if you add both.




In Puntdnal K12 Ancient European HG 45,78% + Caucasus HG 19,05 = about 65% HG.

In Eurasia K10 CHG I have

1 WHG 43.74
2 CHG 19.37
3 EHG 15.14
4 Anatolian_Farmers 14.74
5 SW_Asian 4.59

So again WHG + CHG = 63%. With EHG it is even 78%....

CHG has little to do with WHG, it's the equivalent of Iran neolithic + a bit of EHG. It's not because something has an "HG" name it is similar to the typical mesolithic Euro. Bantu HG, Oceanian HG, etc... everything was hunting at some point.

[Lek]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 20.06
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 32.13
Middle Eastern Herder 9.82
East Asian Farmer 0.72
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.07
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.34
Mediterranean Farmer 36.85
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Lucas]

Not really. How Caucasus Hunther Gatherer could be equivalent of something more recent like Iran Neolihitic? It's not logical. The opposite is true.

It's obvios that all calcs show the same thing, but some of them divide it. In older calcs what is WHG, was in newest divided to "Western" WHG and "eastern" CHG or EHG. In my example the general sume is always the same. How do you explain it? Too many cases.

[Petalpusher]

Not really. How Caucasus Hunther Gatherer could be equivalent of something more recent like Iran Neolihitic? It's not logical. The opposite is true.

It's obvios that all calcs show the same thing, but some of them divide it. In older calcs what is WHG, was in newest divided to "Western" WHG and "eastern" CHG or EHG. In my example the general sume is always the same. How do you explain it? Too many cases.

CHG is right next to Iran_M and Iran_N. It's pretty well known, you can't really be much further away from the mesolithic WHG's.

https://s28.postimg.org/51rnehzi3/Baltic_a_DNA_K7.png

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ohn43GryewU/WJSoeFMzm1I/AAAAAAAAFQ8/lG03FUBldB8rjpVfXQ2C_-2eOVLbPnh-ACLcB/s1600/Baltic_aDNA_K7.png


CHG is the second most basal type of lineage with Iran_N, mixed with the ANE branch.

[Pahli]

I wonder if any member will score more Anatolian Farmer than me

Population
Anatolian Farmer 54.78
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 2.68
Middle Eastern Herder 15.99
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.32
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 10.67
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.59
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.13
Mediterranean Farmer 14.28
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.30
Bantu Farmer 0.25

:)

[Lucas]

...
Ok, what calc you recomend instead of?

[Not a Cop]

Ok, what calc you recomend instead of?

Each calc serves it's own function, what do you want to know?

[Coastal Elite]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 14.84
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 47.20
Middle Eastern Herder 1.31
East Asian Farmer 0.28
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.22
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.22
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.92
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Borealis]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 18.76
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 2.57
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 3.08
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.60
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 69.96
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.32
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.95
Mediterranean Farmer 2.59
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.18
Bantu Farmer -

[Rædwald]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 5.48
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 52.94
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 2.43
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 3.57
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.41
East African Pastoralist 0.13
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.08
Mediterranean Farmer 34.91
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[unknown user]

Anatolian Farmer 57.01
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 26.12
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 2.24
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 5.95
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.77
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.45
Mediterranean Farmer 5.68
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.59
Bantu Farmer 0.21


I wonder if any member will score more Anatolian Farmer than me

[Erronkari]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 5.88
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 31.48
Middle Eastern Herder 1.99
East Asian Farmer 0.24
South American Hunter Gatherer 3.93
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.55
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.78
Mediterranean Farmer 53.66
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.48
Bantu Farmer -

[GreentheViper]

Anatolian Farmer 5.92
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 34.75
Middle Eastern Herder 0.74
East Asian Farmer 0.98
South American Hunter Gatherer 29.13
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.80
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 3.14
East African Pastoralist 0.77
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 21.94
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.83
Bantu Farmer -

[chalcogen]

Anatolian Farmer 27.14
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 16.58
Middle Eastern Herder 16.86
East Asian Farmer 0.80
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.69
East African Pastoralist 1.68
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.05
Mediterranean Farmer 35.96
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.08
Bantu Farmer 0.15

[oszkar07]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 11.75
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.09
Middle Eastern Herder 3.02
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.55
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 29.60
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[oszkar07]

DOUBLE POST.

[J. Ketch]

Anatolian Farmer 6.61
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 58.98
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.23
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.51
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 32.38
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.28
Bantu Farmer -

[Bogdan]

Anatolian Farmer 9.59
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.48
Middle Eastern Herder 2.38
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.78
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.70
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 32.08
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Luke35]

Anatolian Farmer 11.40
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 50.54
Middle Eastern Herder 3.06
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.61
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 3.14
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.41
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.25
Mediterranean Farmer 30.58
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Ekaitza]

Mediterranean Farmer 28,89%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 23,24%
South American Hunter Gatherer 15,17%
Anatolian Farmer 10,76%
Bantu Farmer 9,2%
Middle Eastern Herder 6,83%
East African Pastoralist 3,33%
East Asian Farmer 0,74%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0,67%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0,56%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0,44%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0,15%

[Pausanias]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 19.07
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 31.10
Middle Eastern Herder 7.35
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.84
East African Pastoralist 0.91
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.45
Mediterranean Farmer 39.53
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.76