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Tooting Carmen
02-19-2017, 01:24 PM
Kieran Marmion
https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2015/09/30163540/marmion.jpghttps://cdn.soticservers.net/tools/images/players/photos/2016/irfu/126/295x300/62013.jpg

Jack Carty
http://www.irishrugby.ie/images/news/rsz_inpho_00963131_rdax_80.jpghttp://www.connachtrugby.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/jack-carty.jpg

Tiernan O'Halloran
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8038/8053465617_4db4c1c6fa_b.jpghttp://media.gettyimages.com/photos/galway-ireland-11-october-2016-tiernan-ohalloran-of-connacht-during-a-picture-id613925604

The Blade
02-20-2017, 10:58 AM
Marmion - Kelto-Brunn
Carty - Nordic
O'Halloran - Dinaricized Atlantid

The Blade
02-20-2017, 11:00 AM
Outside Ireland, they pass best as Brits.

XenophobicPrussian
02-20-2017, 11:07 AM
Nordid-Brunn
Sub-Nordid with extra CM
East Med

1st guy only passes in British Isles, 2nd guy is pan-northern/central Euro, 3rd guy passes from southern Italy to Pakistan.

MysteriousWays
02-20-2017, 11:18 AM
#1 is Halstatt with Brunn I think; passes best in Great Britain, would be iffy for Norway even imo
#2 is mix of Tronder + Atlantid I think. Passes best in Great Britain, can probably also pass in Benelux & Scandinavia, maybe northern Germany.
#3 is mix of Atlantid and Dinarid. Can probably pass in all of Western Europe; also a chunk of Southern Europe

XenophobicPrussian
02-20-2017, 11:51 AM
#1 is Halstatt with Brunn I think; passes best in Great Britain, would be iffy for Norway even imo
#2 is mix of Tronder + Atlantid I think. Passes best in Great Britain, can probably also pass in Benelux & Scandinavia, maybe northern Germany.
#3 is mix of Atlantid and Dinarid. Can probably pass in all of Western Europe; also a chunk of Southern Europe
This Basque golfer is a Atlantid+Dinarid(aka Baskid or Keltid):

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/71/590x/olazabal-364852.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Johnnie+Walker+Championship+Day+Three+3xQtF-XaIqtl.jpg

Someone like Rick Santorum or Jon Hamm are Atlantids.

http://www.yaf.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Santorum-_Rick.jpg

I've literally had Pakistani classmates who pass better in Britain than the third guy. Mr. Bean is less exotic than him.

East Med, not even West Med, which is something like this:

http://i.skyrock.net/9217/5649217/pics/90545910_small.jpg

Also, the second guy has far too much a wide face to be any pure Nordid Tronder or Atlantid type. I agree he isn't fully Alpinized but he's mainly Sub-Nordid(depigmented Alpinid). Fully agree on #1, very Irish/British Isles look.

RN97
02-20-2017, 11:58 AM
The third looks looks very out of place for a Irishman, is he fully Irish? To me he looks Greek.
Resembles Sokratis Papastathopoulos
http://i.imgur.com/xEM2nO4.jpg

RN97
02-20-2017, 12:04 PM
East Med, not even West Med, which is something like this:

http://i.skyrock.net/9217/5649217/pics/90545910_small.jpg

Also, the second guy has far too much a wide face to be any pure Nordid Tronder or Atlantid type. I agree he isn't fully Alpinized but he's mainly Sub-Nordid(depigmented Alpinid). Fully agree on #1, very Irish/British Isles look.

That last Portuguese guy you posted can easily be a Greek. There are no serious anthropologists that ever used west/ east med. It's one and the same. Often on the interwebz it seems that west meds are usually fairer types that probably have more HG ancestry, while what people call east meds vary from having eastern Euro influence to having less HG influence to having a aquiline nose....
Also there are no meds in Pakistan, what the heck are you talking about dawg?

MysteriousWays
02-20-2017, 12:12 PM
They do look somewhat similar (Papastathopoulos and O'Halloran).

Tooting Carmen
02-20-2017, 05:11 PM
Ireland does have some quite dark pseudo-Med types. Here are some others from the current Irish rugby team:

Rory Best (Ulster)
http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/02/12/15/Rory-Best.jpg

Conor Murray (Munster)
http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2015/09/conor-murray-99-752x501.jpg

Rob and Dave Kearney (Leinster)
http://rsvpmagazine.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Rob-and-Dave-Kearney-e1390571771512.jpg

But obviously most are a lot lighter and archetypally NW European than them.

Sikeliot
02-20-2017, 05:38 PM
Tiernan O'Halloran looks Greek or something. Odd look for an Irish.

Tooting Carmen
02-21-2017, 12:04 PM
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Tooting Carmen
03-29-2017, 01:21 AM
bump

Grace O'Malley
03-29-2017, 05:51 AM
Yes I must say Tiernan does look unusual for an Irishman but who knows he could be fully Irish.

http://www.independent.ie/incoming/article35122723.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/1228661.jpg

Here he is with his dad.

http://cdn1.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/inpho_01068250.jpg

With his parents. Possibly his mum might have some other ancestry but maybe not as well. He looks a bit Italian to me.

http://inpho.ie/cache/inpho/45/4f/2a/710c9b071dbe610f17d49dbe9ef5cf61844fc2ba9b/INPHO_01057934.jpg

Anyway I can't find anything about him having any outside ancestry.

Mn The Loki TA Son
03-29-2017, 05:55 AM
Tiernan O'Halloran looks Greek or something. Odd look for an Irish.


Yes I must say Tiernan does look unusual for an Irishman but who knows he could be fully Irish.

http://www.independent.ie/incoming/article35122723.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/1228661.jpg

Here he is with his dad.

http://cdn1.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/inpho_01068250.jpg

With his parents. Possibly his mum might have some other ancestry but maybe not as well. He looks a bit Italian to me.

http://inpho.ie/cache/inpho/45/4f/2a/710c9b071dbe610f17d49dbe9ef5cf61844fc2ba9b/INPHO_01057934.jpg

Anyway I can't find anything about him having any outside ancestry.

http://www.strangehistory.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/irish-african.jpg

Odin
06-11-2017, 02:19 PM
1. Keltic-Nordid + Brunn
2. North Atlantid
3. Atlantid + Dinarid

Pass in Western Europe.

Sikeliot
06-11-2017, 03:18 PM
People in Connacht to me often look similar to SW England.

Tooting Carmen
12-24-2017, 02:12 PM
bump

Hadouken
12-24-2017, 02:16 PM
3rd would pass among us in my provence (at least on those pics)

Tooting Carmen
12-24-2017, 02:21 PM
3rd would pass among us in my provence (at least on those pics)

Although Irish people are often held up as a "White Northern European" ideal, some can actually be quite exotic:

Gillian Norris (I find it hard to believe she's fully native actually)
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c1/2d/76/c12d76f5d458b656ec00ce8538f41f35--leprechaun-penny.jpg

Christine Bleakley
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/faces/bleakley-christine-image.jpg

Conor Murray
https://cdn-03.independent.ie/incoming/article35681035.ece/89541/AUTOCROP/w620h342/conormurray%202.jpg

Hadouken
12-24-2017, 02:22 PM
we wuz caucasian n shiet I guess

Tooting Carmen
05-26-2018, 04:16 PM
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Tooting Carmen
03-21-2019, 02:27 AM
we wuz caucasian n shiet I guess

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Bellbeaking
03-21-2019, 02:48 AM
http://www.strangehistory.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/irish-african.jpg

turns out the english are more iberian lol.

That caricature does look irish to me though. A lot of irish have that appearance but less exagerated

Zroota
03-21-2019, 05:07 AM
3rd guy looks Georgian or Armenian. Some sort of Mtebid or something. Very odd look not just for western Europe, but for the northwest.

Tooting Carmen
05-02-2024, 02:31 PM
Jack Carty again
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/thesportschronicle/tsc/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/22093843/jack-carty-sliding-doors.jpghttps://imengine.public.prod.sbp.infomaker.io/?uuid=90a90cd6-8bf0-556c-b94a-6b70737b17d7&function=cropresize&type=preview&source=false&q=75&crop_w=0.99999&crop_h=0.37406&width=2395&height=1347&x=1.0E-5&y=0.11139