Rank these Sicilians best to worst: no club photos. Rep comments given.

[Sikeliot]

Spain
North Italy
France
UK
Germany
Poland
Russia
Greece
Cyprus
Albania
Serbia
Bulgaria
Turkey
Armenia
Lebanon
Iran
Iraq
Egypt
Algeria


http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2015/04/23/ca163,22,2237,1548/20150423lritalianseen07-3.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/e4/f2/fde4f2d46328abd50be985092b7b7a3a.jpg
http://media.istockphoto.com/photos/cefalu-sicily-fisherman-with-his-nets-picture-id545246166
http://images.freeimages.com/images/premium/previews/2134/21343328-outdoors-butcher-catania-street-market-sicily-italy.jpg
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BXAMTE/sandwich-maker-at-the-street-market-in-ortigia-island-syracuse-sicily-BXAMTE.jpg
http://images.freeimages.com/images/premium/previews/2132/21329970-fruit-street-market-in-catania-sicily-italy.jpg
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/6ee62e6ef78c4325b0626c69f9399144/cheese-seller-at-catania-street-market-catania-town-sicily-italy-excc76.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/10/16/3503DF2100000578-0-image-a-3_1465571373966.jpg
https://lanuvolabiancadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dsc_0016.jpg?w=1024&h=682
http://www.radiotimes.com/uploads/images/original/90628.jpg
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000AxD7mEiOGrM/s/700/700/Fishmonger-at-Ortigia-Market-Syracuse-Siracusa-Sicily-Italy-Europe.jpg
http://l450v.alamy.com/450v/ewtep7/mercato-il-capo-is-one-of-several-famous-outdoor-markets-in-palermo-ewtep7.jpg
http://www.wondersofsicily.com/images/1000x700-Cefalu-Fisherman-20150531-cefalu_1109.jpg
http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13183557_503581553164913_2008528278_n.jpg?ig_cache _key=MTI1MzEyMjU4NDA4MzAxNjUyNg%3D%3D.2
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/c532af36078b4fb1ac1acca82a3d4846/stand-with-fish-in-the-market-mercato-di-ballar-palermo-sicily-italy-bwkbt5.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Palermo-People-bjs-3.jpg
http://thesiracusas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Sicilian-Street-Markets-2.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vm5oSIlIXIg/maxresdefault.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1696/26340875491_d2b81f2c8e_c.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Greece all the way. After that, Cyprus, Spain/North Italy, France/Lebanon, Albania, Bulgaria/Turkey/Armenia, Serbia, UK/Germany, Slavic countries minus Russia, Iran, Algeria, Iraq, Egypt, Russia.

[Sikeliot]

Greece all the way. After that, Cyprus, Spain/North Italy, France/Lebanon, then the rest.

Which is the worst option on the whole list?

[Tooting Carmen]

Which is the worst option on the whole list?

Russia, Egypt and Iraq are.

[Sikeliot]

Russia, Egypt and Iraq are.

Which is the worst?

Also how do you think they compare to the Greek group photo you posted earlier? There were types present in that photo I do not see here (i.e. none of these look Balkan, so I am actually surprised you did not put Cyprus first).

[Tooting Carmen]

Which is the worst?

Also how do you think they compare to the Greek group photo you posted earlier? There were types present in that photo I do not see here (i.e. none of these look Balkan, so I am actually surprised you did not put Cyprus first).

Greeks look like South Italians if you fattened and bulked them up. Cypriots are somewhat darker and more non-Euro than both, but they still don't look like Jordanians and Palestinians.

[Sikeliot]

Greeks look like South Italians if you fattened and bulked them up. Cypriots are somewhat darker and more non-Euro than both, but they still don't look like Jordanians and Palestinians.

It is not just a weight thing. The head shape, spacing of the eyes, etc. is almost always entirely off between the two.

Rank the whole list?

[steauabusteni]

I do not think Greeks look like southern italians. Greeks look more like there balkan neighbors in my opinion. Out of the Greeks and other Balkan people I know they all look quite similar and can be interchangeable some sicilians would fit in with greeks more but I believe greeks more often overlap with Albanian, Romanians and Bulgarians than Southern Italians. Now for the post some of these people can fit in Greece but most would fit best in Southern part of Spain

[Sikeliot]

I do not think Greeks look like southern italians. Greeks look more like there balkan neighbors in my opinion. Out of the Greeks and other Balkan people I know they all look quite similar and can be interchangeable some sicilians would fit in with greeks more but I believe greeks more often overlap with Albanian, Romanians and Bulgarians than Southern Italians. Now for the post some of these people can fit in Greece but most would fit best in Southern part of Spain

I agreed with you until you said they fit best in southern Spain. They don't have Iberian features in the slightest, in fact I'd say they fit better in Greece even though I emphasize the differences as well.

[steauabusteni]

I don't have much experience with southern spaniards but from the ones I know they look similar. Again some of the people here do look like Greeks but most do not. Btw why do you think so often on here people try to say greeks look the same as S Italians and they try to say they look much different from their Balkan neighbors

[steauabusteni]

The two guys in the Gym look kind of Lebanese.

[Sikeliot]

I don't have much experience with southern spaniards but from the ones I know they look similar. Again some of the people here do look like Greeks but most do not. Btw why do you think so often on here people try to say greeks look the same as S Italians and they try to say they look much different from their Balkan neighbors

Spanish, whether north or south, have different features than Sicilians do. It is not true they look Arabic or whatever people think. I think Sicilians look like Ashkenazi Jews and Cypriots pretty much, and some Aegean islanders.

I don't know why some people on here differentiate Greeks from their neighbors, but I don't understand it.

[nafz]

I don't know about Sicily but in Greece many people that work in these open street markets like the ones pictured here (fish, fruit, meat etc) are foreigners , usually Middle easterners and Roma.

Also the last photo in your post is from Athens, not Sicily.

[Sikeliot]

I don't know about Sicily but in Greece many people that work in these open street markets like the ones pictured here (fish, fruit, meat etc) are foreigners , usually Middle easterners and Roma.

Also the last photo in your post is from Athens, not Sicily.

First point: not true for Sicily. there are North Africans who sell things there but I excluded their photos.

Last point: proof?

[steauabusteni]

What do you mean look like Ashkenazi Jews most of the ones I know look like what ever nation they are from and sometimes they will have curlier hair and a more levantine nose. I don't think sicilians look like cypriots and some greek islanders I think they are usually just darker versions of other Italians. I think greeks from all parts look similar just higher concentration of darker greeks in the islands and cyprus.

[nafz]

Last point: proof?

Proof is that I know this area of Athens, its called Monastiraki and it has a famous open market.

More proof here: (scroll down to see the photo):
www.alamy.com/stock-photo/athens-street.html

[Sikeliot]

Gone now but on Google it does come up as Palermo.

[Kriptc06]

This is hard, but here it goes:
Cyprus
Greece
Lebanon
Armenia
Iran
Iraq
Egypt
Algeria
Turkey
Albania
Bulgaria
Serbia
Spain
North Italy
France
UK
Germany
Poland
Russia

[Sikeliot]

What do you mean look like Ashkenazi Jews most of the ones I know look like what ever nation they are from and sometimes they will have curlier hair and a more levantine nose. I don't think sicilians look like cypriots and some greek islanders I think they are usually just darker versions of other Italians. I think greeks from all parts look similar just higher concentration of darker greeks in the islands and cyprus.

So you are saying all Greeks, whether mainland or islands look Balkan to you?

My point is, Sicilians do not look Spanish nor Portuguese.

[steauabusteni]

My belief of a Balkan look is not the average persons belief which is more of a east euro look when I say Balkan I refer to Southern Romanians, Albanians, Less Slavic Bulgarians and Greeks. Darker Serbs and Croats would be included in this. Here is the thing about the Balkans region in every nation you have some people who are lighter and darker I know many Romanians who look levantine and many who look Cypriot same for Greeks, Albanians and Bulgarians. Sicilians may not look Iberian I do not know many Iberians but the ones I do know do look Sicilian but again I have never been around many of them so I do not know. But Balkan people I have spent many time around and I know a lot of Sicilians after all they are all around the states. Here is the thing I have noticed about Sicilians in the states some are very dark looking but some are very light like 50/50 50% of the ones I know look western euro and the other 50% look southern euro or distinct Sicilian.

[MysteriousWays]

They really won't pass in some of these, but I'll try to order until it gets even. It's a very hard set to guess where they pass best.
Cyprus
Armenia
Lebanon
Greece
Turkey
Spain
Iran
Albania
Bulgaria
N. Italy
Serbia

Pointless to rank from this point: France, UK, Germany, Poland, Russia, Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

First point: not true for Sicily. there are North Africans who sell things there but I excluded their photos.

Last point: proof?

That, that sounds llike number one bullshit.

[Sikeliot]

Others?

[The Blade]

Best fits - Cyprus, Greece, Lebanon, Turkey, Armenia (in this order this time).
Totally do not pass as - Russian, Polish, German, British/Irish, Algerian, Egyptian.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Greeks look like South Italians if you fattened and bulked them up. Cypriots are somewhat darker and more non-Euro than both, but they still don't look like Jordanians and Palestinians.

I see types here in photos that look Cypriot. So I would put Cyprus before passing them anywhere mainland Europe regions. Like the guy in pic#9,, looks to pass even in Iraq.

[Sikeliot]

I see types here in photos that look Cypriot. So I would put Cyprus before passing them anywhere mainland Europe regions. Like the guy in pic#9,, looks to pass even in Iraq.

Rank the entire list?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Best fit I say
Cyprus
Greece (islands mainly)
Albania
Turkey
Armenia
Lebanon
North Italy
Spain
France
Germany
UK
Poland
Russia
Iraq
Algeria
Iran
Egypt

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

That's my entire list order. What do ya think
I think I'm not far away in how I put them. Maybe move one or two up and down.

[MysteriousWays]

Best fit I say
Cyprus
Greece (islands mainly)
Albania
Turkey
Armenia
Lebanon
North Italy
Spain
France
Germany
UK
Poland
Russia
Iraq
Algeria
Iran
Egypt

This seems reasonable to me. I had Spain a bit higher (above N. Italy), but otherwise comports well with what I put down.