Slavic and Uralic mtDNA in modern Scandinavia

[Peterski]

Excellent analysis from a Finnish female user on Anthrogenica:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203654-Hungarian-Conquerors-were-a-mixture-of-Goth-and-Hunnic-tribes-according-to-newest-research&p=4260494&viewfull=1#post4260494


The new paper on Magyar MtDNA (http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794/1/Neparaczki_PhD.pdf) contains interesting figures, but it strangely defines a long list of haplotypes as Scandinavian-Germanic: U5a1a1h, U5a1i, U5a2a2a, U5a2b, U2e2a1a2, K1c1, H1b2, H1b1, H1c1, H2a1c, H15b, H5e1, H5+709, H5e1, H6a1a, H6a1b, T1a1, T2b, T2b4h, T2f1a1, J1c2, J1c3g, J1c7a, J1b1a1, J1b1a1-146, X2c1, X2f, I5a1, T1a10a, H2a1+146.

To my knowledge, ancient Hungarians did not ride to Scandinavia to marry local women but it was more probably the Vikings who sailed back home from Russia with an exotic wife. In this paper the Volga Ural cultural area is omitted and Slavs seem to have mostly Germanic-Scandinavian mtDNA.

I made a list of these Germanic-Scandinavian haplotypes with reference to ethnic groups where they are found today. I have used mostly Ian Logan site: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/haplogroup_select.htm and the Swedish haplogroup database: http://dna.scangen.se/index.php?soktyp=begin&fnamn_sel=&enamn_sel=&fort_sel=&lan_sel=&fodd_sel=&haplo_sel=t1a10&haplospec_sel=&lang=en&show=search and Bermisheva et al paper on Volga Ural mtDNA, but these sources are not exhaustive!

U5a1a1h Poland; (256, 270, 294, 399) Lipka Tatars; not in Sweden
U5a1i rare everywhere, found at least in Spain, Norway
U5a2a2a Finland, Denmark (Ian Logan); not in Sweden
U5a2b Tunisia, Buryatia, Khamnigans, Poland, Austria, Lebanon, Bulgaria, Serbia; U5a2b Chuvash, Bashkirs, Maris, Tatars; widespread in Khanty (192 256 270); particularly frequent in Poland; Mordvine (16215);
K1c1 typical in Volga Ural: Chuvash, Maris, Tatars (K1c1e); K1c1, K1c1c frequent in whole Finland; K1c1b and K1c2 Western Europe; K1c frequent in Switzerland and Scandinavia, in Sweden K1c1 and K1c1b
H1b2 Tatars (16356 16080 16189); Khanty, Mansi H1b2a (80 184A 189 356); Russians, Poles; Rare in Sweden
H1b1 Mordvins; Tatars, Bashkirs, Komipermjaks H1b1a; Balkars; Buryats H1b1a; in Sweden H1b1b, in Finland H1b1
H1c1 H1c in Tatars, in Iran and Buryatia H1ca; Northwest Caucasus; frequent in Sweden
H2a1c Adyge, Poland, Italy, Denmark; small amounts in Finland and Sweden
H15b Italy, Druze, Denmark; H15b1 Denmark, Iran; H15b2 Armenia
H5-G709A Italy
H5e1 UK, Serbia, Greece, Denmark, Italy
H6a1a Volga Ural, icl. Chuvash, Baskirs, Tatars, Maris, Mordvins, old in Caucasus, Turkey; frequent in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe
H6a1b frequent in Russia, Central Asia, incl. Pashto, Tadjiks, Turkmens, Uzbeks, H6a1 in Altai; Near East and Siberia, H6a1b Shorians, H6a1b Lithuania, Ukraine, Germany; very frequent in the Pontic Steppe

Undefined T2* is frequent in Tatars, Mordvins, Bashkirs, Komipermjaks, Komizyrjans, Udmurts, Turkmens, Uzbeks
T2b4h Kazakh
T2b4e Azeri;
T2b4 Srubnaya Samara Uvarovka I Russia; Kazakhs, Northern Europe
T2b4a Russia, Northern Europe; T2b4i, T2b4g Italy; T2b4b, T2b4f Germany, UK; T2b4 T152C Scandinavia, Finland
T2f1a1 France, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Caucasus; T2f1 Buinsk Tatars
T1a1 widespread in Europe in general
T1a1a1 Khanty, Mansi; Khanty T1a1d (16270)
T1a1b Maris; In Finland T1a1b; T1a1b1 in India, Iran, Azer; T1a1b in Poland, Germany, in Buryatia 16179; in Turkey, Greece;
T1a1d Khanty, Mansi;
J1c2 Maris, Tatars, Mordvins, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Komipermjaks, Komizyrjans; J1c2 and J1c2c1 frequent in Finland and Sweden; also found in Iran
J1c7a Tatars, Ashkenazi jews, Hungary, Germany, Scandinavia, Finland, Belarus, Ukraine
J1b1a1 Khanty, Mansi, Lipka Tatars; small amounts in Northern Europe; sporadically in India
J1b1a1-T146C France, J1b1a1e T14470C Iran

X2c1 Finland, Russia, Armenia, Irland, Denmark, Germany, Caucasia, Spain
X2f Druze, North Ossetia, Iran, Armenia
I5a1a Italy, England

H2a1+146: On Ian Logan site I could find only one match: 23andMe('spcmk4'-2366) H2a1 146C
T1a10a: rare everywhere, and Ian Logan site did not indicate the origin of 3 samples

The only typically German haplotypes are U2e2a1a2 which according to Ian Logan is found in Ireland, Denmark and Sweden, and K1c1d and J1c3g (UK, Denmark).

[Harkonnen]

Lol a fucking Polak crying about this. Pot calling kettle black.

[Peterski]

Lol a fucking Polak crying about this.

What ??? Finland was being raped by Vikings and occupied by Swedes for 1000 years.

You are the one who is crying it seems.

Especially that you are still very Mongoloid despite all of those Nord-Dicks raping you.

And Russians were also enslaving you:

"Blonde cargoes: Finnish children in the slave markets of medieval Crimea":

https://mikedashhistory.com/2015/01/15/blonde-cargoes-finnish-children-in-the-slave-markets-of-medieval-crimea/

[Harkonnen]

Jus fuck off Polish cunt.

And fuck your whore women too.

[Rethel]

Excellent analysis from a Finnish female user on Anthrogenica:

Kolejny gwóźdź do trumny autosomalnego rasizmu.

[Petalpusher]

Amateurish deductions. Just an example, cause ofc i know about it, H1c is in Sweden since at least the neolithic, Gokhem was H1c. That's 5000 years before any Vikings and whatnot, it still peaks today in Danes, not Tatars. Im sure in many other cases it's the same.

[Cristiano viejo]

Amateurish deductions. Just an example, cause ofc i know about it, H1c is in Sweden since at least the neolithic, Gokhem was H1c. That's 5000 years before any Vikings and whatnot, it still peaks today in Danes, not Tatars. Im sure in many other cases it's the same.

You are being a total hypocrite, you claim there is North African influence in Spaniards bcs e1b1... when, same than in this Swede case that you name, there is e1b1 in Spain since at least the Neolithic too.
Hypocrite.

[Petalpusher]

You are being a total hypocrite, you claim there is North African influence in Spaniards bcs e1b1... when, same than in this Swede case that you name, there is e1b1 in Spain since at least the Neolithic too.
Hypocrite.

I know you have some severe mental limitations but try to remember correctly, you claimed there was N.African influence in any country with E1b, in order to feel better about it, yet IBD shows it isn't the case in the vast majority of Europe, except for Iberians. The fact you have N.African admixture isn't because you have "e1b1" haplogroups, well that's a consequence afterwards, but the Balkan doesn't have much N.African, yet is massively E. No, it's simply a fact proven by the excess of recent DNA segments you share with them. Just like you would share more with your parents, than your neighbours do with them.


Nothing to do with this discussion about mt, females alone rarely conquer lands anyway.

[Peterski]

H1c is in Sweden since at least the neolithic, Gokhem was H1c.

But Neolithic Swedes got wiped out by Indo-Europeans who invaded Sweden. So whatever H1c is in Sweden today, it came there later, as Neolithic Swedish H1c most probably got extinct.