How much "Neolithic Balkan Farmer" do you get on Eurasia K14?

[Voskos]

I myself got close to Greek average.

[Kriptc06]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.92

[Voskos]

The calc is available on Gedmatch under Admixture----> Gedrosia---->EurasiaK14

[firemonkey]

11.99(FTDNA) 11.40(23andMe) 11.69(Ancestry) . British ancestry.

Father: 12.69(FTDNA) British ancestry

[Hadouken]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 11.21

[de Burgh II]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.12

[Mortimer]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 33.27
2 S_Indian 13.19
3 SW_Asian 13.13
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 12.44
5 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 8.74
6 Kalash 8.16
7 SHG_WHG 5.79
8 Papuan 1.69
9 Siberian 1.52
10 N_Amerindian 0.74
11 Sub_Saharan 0.67
12 S_Amerindian 0.36
13 SE_Asian 0.31

[Sikeliot]

11.70%

[Voskos]

bump

[Ylla]

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 40.26
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.04
3 SW_Asian 15.2
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 12.98 is this correct? :confused:
5 SHG_WHG 7.16
6 Kalash 2.43
7 SE_Asian 2.35
8 S_Indian 1.88
9 S_Amerindian 0.64
10 Papuan 0.07

[gültekin]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 10.67
S_Amerindian 1.87

[Hadouken]

^ dat andid

[Kriptc06]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 10.67
S_Amerindian 1.87

See! I knew some Asian became native on those tests :D

[Era]

19.73

[gültekin]

^ dat andid
I have Andid eyes

[Sikeliot]

For what it is worth my mother only scores 4% and I score a lot. BUT most Sicilians on my list don't have much more than I do. My father IS 1/16 Greek from Anatolia so this may be why I have more than I otherwise would.

[Voskos]

chloe beats us all.

[Kriptc06]

chloe beats us all.

And I thought I had any chance hahahahh I'm defeated:(

[Sikeliot]

Here is the amount of this component scored by various Sicilians on my list, from the more Hellenized regions:

17.24, 18.83, 13.06, 15.61, 15, 14.99, 19.98, 14.96, 16.83, 15.20

[Kriptc06]

Here is the amount of this component scored by various Sicilians on my list, from the more Hellenized regions:

17.24, 18.83, 13.06, 15.61, 15, 14.99, 19.98, 14.96, 16.83, 15.20

Do you have any samples for iberians? Particularly portuguese if Available, thanks

[Voskos]

@kript,

theres a spreadsheet on gedmatch, did you not check it out?

[Kriptc06]

@kript,

theres a spreadsheet on gedmatch, did you not check it out?

Oh, I didn't remember, thanks for reminding me

[Sikeliot]

Do you have any samples for iberians? Particularly portuguese if Available, thanks

Yes. I can show you them when I leave class.

[Pahli]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 26.77
2 Early_European_Farmers 26.01
3 Kalash 14.45
4 S_Indian 10.02
5 Afansievo_Yamnaya 9.33
6 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 8.84
7 Siberian 2.13
8 E_African 1.93
9 N_Amerindian 0.24
10 SHG_WHG 0.21
11 Sub_Saharan 0.07

[Kriptc06]

@kript,

theres a spreadsheet on gedmatch, did you not check it out?

My superficial conclusion is, I got 14.92, there's no Portuguese sample, but Spaniards score 16.x.. I'm only half Iberian and a quarter bulgarian-gagauz from Rep. Moldova.

My quarter Balkan must have been slavicized greeks, and I have inherited that part of their ancestry, which makes sense why I didn't score any Eastern euro in FTDNA.

--Bulgarians migrated to that region centuries ago, they are not Bulgarians per se, but are ethnically bulgarians, search for Bessarabian Bulgarians.
My ancestors mixed with gagauz, a Turkic people, that also migrated from Bulgaria if I'm not mistaken.
I can't really tell whether they are 50-50, BG-GGUZ, but they are a mix for sure.

[Hadouken]

I score almost as much as you guys and more than some even . very dubious

[Wrong]

4.12%







































































Kidding.. 17.29%

[Era]

chloe beats us all.

Yeah, even my brother, he has 18.05%

[Rius]

3 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.00

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

My superficial conclusion is, I got 14.92, there's no Portuguese sample, but Spaniards score 16.x.. I'm only half Iberian and a quarter bulgarian-gagauz from Rep. Moldova.

My quarter Balkan must have been slavicized greeks, and I have inherited that part of their ancestry, which makes sense why I didn't score any Eastern euro in FTDNA.

--Bulgarians migrated to that region centuries ago, they are not Bulgarians per se, but are ethnically bulgarians, search for Bessarabian Bulgarians.
My ancestors mixed with gagauz, a Turkic people, that also migrated from Bulgaria if I'm not mistaken.
I can't really tell whether they are 50-50, BG-GGUZ, but they are a mix for sure.

Hey, I get 17.31 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers. It should be close to the average of the Portuguese... Should be around 16/17.

[Kriptc06]

Hey, I get 17.31 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers. It should be close to the average of the Portuguese... Should be around 16/17.

interesting, but I almost reach you, and I am only half colonial portuguese, with a tiny hint of spanish. It must come from my balkan side too.

_ my full results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 30.83
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.92
3 Sub_Saharan 10.17
4 SHG_WHG 8.66
5 SW_Asian 7.96
6 Afansievo_Yamnaya 6.48
7 S_Amerindian 6.38
8 N_Amerindian 5.52
9 Kalash 3.38
10 S_Indian 2.41
11 SE_Asian 2.16


Finished reading population data. 208 populations found.
14 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian @ 19.053465
2 Bulgarian @ 19.188971
3 Greek @ 19.249128
4 Sicilian @ 20.350225
5 Tuscan @ 20.582521
6 Spanish @ 21.052288
7 HungaryGamba_BA1 @ 22.272432
8 French @ 22.594210
9 Croatian @ 22.646267
10 HungaryGamba_IA @ 23.568333
11 Hungarian @ 24.323597
12 Hungarian_BA3 @ 24.511322
13 Kumyk @ 25.161678
14 Turkish @ 25.228178
15 Bell_Beaker_LN2 @ 26.036219
16 English @ 26.229265
17 Bell_Beaker_BA1 @ 26.754581
18 Ukrainian @ 26.858578
19 Czech @ 27.059265
20 Scottish @ 27.553585

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

interesting, but I almost reach you, and I am only half colonial portuguese, with a tiny hint of spanish. It must come from my balkan side too.

_ my full results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 30.83
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.92
3 Sub_Saharan 10.17
4 SHG_WHG 8.66
5 SW_Asian 7.96
6 Afansievo_Yamnaya 6.48
7 S_Amerindian 6.38
8 N_Amerindian 5.52
9 Kalash 3.38
10 S_Indian 2.41
11 SE_Asian 2.16


Finished reading population data. 208 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian @ 19.053465
2 Bulgarian @ 19.188971
3 Greek @ 19.249128
4 Sicilian @ 20.350225
5 Tuscan @ 20.582521
6 Spanish @ 21.052288
7 HungaryGamba_BA1 @ 22.272432
8 French @ 22.594210
9 Croatian @ 22.646267
10 HungaryGamba_IA @ 23.568333
11 Hungarian @ 24.323597
12 Hungarian_BA3 @ 24.511322
13 Kumyk @ 25.161678
14 Turkish @ 25.228178
15 Bell_Beaker_LN2 @ 26.036219
16 English @ 26.229265
17 Bell_Beaker_BA1 @ 26.754581
18 Ukrainian @ 26.858578
19 Czech @ 27.059265
20 Scottish @ 27.553585

Yes, you have an interesting pull east, seeing as you have almost as much Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers as me and you actually have a little bit over my Yamnaya value of 6.21 xD

Anyway, it's easy to see your score is very Portuguese-like in general, which makes sense since it's the biggest part of your ancestry :)

[Kriptc06]

Yes, you have an interesting pull east, seeing as you have almost as much Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers as me and you actually have a little bit over my Yamnaya value of 6.21 xD

Anyway, it's easy to see your score is very Portuguese-like in general, which makes sense since it's the biggest part of your ancestry :)

heheh thanks, May I see your K14 results?

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

heheh thanks, May I see your K14 results?

Sure, i'll pm you

[Voskos]

The component's reference is Starcevo Neolithic.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Neol%C3%ADtico_en_Europa.png

[Lek]

N_Amerindian -
Afansievo_Yamnaya 12.66
Kalash 4.05
Siberian 1.15
S_Amerindian -
Sub_Saharan -
SE_Asian 1.49
E_African 0.84
SW_Asian 13.83
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.86
SHG_WHG 6.46
Early_European_Farmers 42.96
S_Indian 0.11
Papuan 0.57

[Voskos]

N_Amerindian -
Afansievo_Yamnaya 12.66
Kalash 4.05
Siberian 1.15
S_Amerindian -
Sub_Saharan -
SE_Asian 1.49
E_African 0.84
SW_Asian 13.83
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.86
SHG_WHG 6.46
Early_European_Farmers 42.96
S_Indian 0.11
Papuan 0.57

you get very high Neolithic European Farmer , might be the reason why you get butthurt so easily.:D

[Petalpusher]

you get very high Neolithic European Farmer , might be the reason why you get butthurt so easily.:D

This is where most of the mesolithic is located in this model, Norwegians, Basques and Lithuanians score the highest EEF (over 50%), even Finns are at 48%, + the SHG_WHG addon (Motala peak). This a bit funky but it works i guess.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 47.81
2 Afansievo_Yamnaya 14.59
3 SHG_WHG 13.12
4 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.58
5 SW_Asian 6.91
6 Kalash 4.75
7 SE_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 3.14
2 Croatian 4.45
3 Hungarian 5.41
4 English 5.56
5 Scottish 7.43
6 Czech 7.51
7 Spanish 8.55
8 Bulgarian 9.36
9 Ukrainian 9.39
10 Norwegian 9.61
11 French_South 11.26
12 Bell_Beaker_LN3 11.57
13 HungaryGamba_BA1 12.32
14 Basque 12.5
15 Tuscan 13.45
16 Albanian 13.91
17 HungaryGamba_IA 14.97
18 Russian 14.98
19 Greek 15.4
20 Finnish 15.52

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% French @ 3.246986

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% Tuscan @ 2.772743

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 HungaryGamba_BA1 + Norwegian + Scottish + Tuscan @ 2.528607

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.8% French + 2.2% Hungarian_BA6 @ 2.9

[Wrong]

you get very high Neolithic European Farmer , might be the reason why you get butthurt so easily.:DAdd Red Bull into the mix :D

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Red_bull_tin.jpeg/140px-Red_bull_tin.jpeg

[Wrong]

I myself got close to Greek average.I missed it, why delet? xD

[DRUM]

1 Early_European_Farmers 39.65
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 18.33
3 SW_Asian 18.02
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 9.02
5 SHG_WHG 6.84
6 Kalash 5.43
7 N_Amerindian 2.01
8 Papuan 0.71

[Voskos]

I missed it

...

[Zmey Gorynych]

Neolithic Balkan 10.54% but I'm more interested in Afansievo Yamnaya of which I score 15.63%. What's that? Some kind of mongoloid? I see it peaks in Estonians (almost 23%).

[Kriptc06]

Neolithic Balkan 10.54% but I'm more interested in Afansievo Yamnaya of which I score 15.63%. What's that? Some kind of mongoloid? I see it peaks in Estonians (almost 23%).

they are metal age invaders, yamnaya are from the black sea/caucasus

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/23/16/26ED443600000578-0-Experts_discovered_that_in_addition_to_the_origina l_European_hun-a-65_1427128061123.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture

[Zmey Gorynych]

they are metal age invaders, yamanaya are from the black sea/caucasus

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/23/16/26ED443600000578-0-Experts_discovered_that_in_addition_to_the_origina l_European_hun-a-65_1427128061123.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture
Oh yeah these are the guys the anhtrotards used to jerk off to a couple of years ago.

[Nilotik]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.24

[Kelmendasi]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 17.75

[SSlava]

:D

[Nehellenia]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 12.07

[Kriptc06]

My superficial conclusion is, I got 14.92, there's no Portuguese sample, but Spaniards score 16.x.. I'm only half Iberian and a quarter bulgarian-gagauz from Rep. Moldova.

My quarter Balkan must have been slavicized greeks, and I have inherited that part of their ancestry, which makes sense why I didn't score any Eastern euro in FTDNA.

--Bulgarians migrated to that region centuries ago, they are not Bulgarians per se, but are ethnically bulgarians, search for Bessarabian Bulgarians.
My ancestors mixed with gagauz, a Turkic people, that also migrated from Bulgaria if I'm not mistaken.
I can't really tell whether they are 50-50, BG-GGUZ, but they are a mix for sure.

Not only that past version of me, but the last name of our great-greatgrandad was Greek, according to forebears.Io, so the gagauz side is from Greece, that's why Greek shows on autoasomal, along with Bulgarian. There's more to it than it looks

PS. I love monologs

[oszkar07]

I myself got close to Greek average.

Population
N_Amerindian 0.18
Afansievo_Yamnaya 18.25
Kalash 4.91
Siberian 2.22
S_Amerindian 2.55
Sub_Saharan -
SE_Asian 0.10
E_African -
SW_Asian 5.45
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 9.20
SHG_WHG 13.60
Early_European_Farmers 43.41
S_Indian -
Papuan 0.13

[magicalM]

N amerindian 0.09
Afensiovo yamnaya 18.27
Kalash 4,09
Siberian 1.20
..
SW Asian 6.69
NEOTHELIC BALKAN 9.48
SHW WHG 14.45
Early European farmers 40.46
S Indian 5.27


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[Rius]

Population
N_Amerindian -
Afansievo_Yamnaya 13.55
Kalash 11.72
Siberian -
S_Amerindian -
Sub_Saharan -
SE_Asian 2.76
E_African 2.31
SW_Asian 19.44
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 14.00
SHG_WHG 0.95
Early_European_Farmers 24.95
S_Indian 5.41
Papuan 4.92

[Jana]

N_Amerindian 0.36
Afansievo_Yamnaya 14.66
Kalash 8.99
Siberian 2.14
S_Amerindian 0.10
Sub_Saharan -
SE_Asian -
E_African -
SW_Asian 7.55
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 11.54
SHG_WHG 14.17
Early_European_Farmers 40.50
S_Indian -
Papuan -

[MysteriousWays]

13.48

[alnortedelsur]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 40.96
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 11.89
3 SW_Asian 11.11
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 10.69
5 SHG_WHG 8.03
6 Sub_Saharan 5.76
7 S_Amerindian 5.47
8 SE_Asian 3.15
9 Kalash 2.4
10 N_Amerindian 0.54

[Vascontelo]

N_Amerindian 12.44
Afansievo_Yamnaya 7.98
Kalash 0.47
Siberian -
S_Amerindian 16.31
Sub_Saharan 5.40
SE_Asian 5.15
E_African -
SW_Asian 9.03
Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 10.03
SHG_WHG 6.97
Early_European_Farmers 26.22
S_Indian -
Papuan -

[Voskos]

i dont understand how the calc differentiates between balkan farmer and european farmer.

[Coolguy1]

Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 18.42

[Kamal900]

Eurasia K14 Neolithic Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 32.75
2 Early_European_Farmers 24.90
3 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.09
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 7.00
5 Kalash 6.29
6 S_Indian 5.55
7 E_African 2.03
8 Sub_Saharan 1.58
9 Siberian 1.41
10 Papuan 1.33
11 S_Amerindian 1.29

[Voskos]

Eurasia K14 Neolithic Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 32.75
2 Early_European_Farmers 24.90
3 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 15.09
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 7.00
5 Kalash 6.29
6 S_Indian 5.55
7 E_African 2.03
8 Sub_Saharan 1.58
9 Siberian 1.41
10 Papuan 1.33
11 S_Amerindian 1.29

its starting to look like whatever balkan farmer we score has a levant affinity. must be through a natufian connection

[Kaspias]

Is this calculator still available as DIY?