Why does southern euro + slight amerindian look MENA and germanic +slight amerind look scandinavian?

[LP0956]

Why does someone (mostly) southern European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo MENA vibe and someone (mostly) germanic/central European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo Scandinavian look?

Me

http://i.imgur.com/wSmWpjM.jpg

Tom DeLonge

https://infectiousmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tom-delonge.jpg

[Mat123]

Are you ever going to take a DNA test?

[alnortedelsur]

Why does someone (mostly) southern European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo MENA vibe and someone (mostly) germanic/central European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo Scandinavian look?

Me

http://i.imgur.com/wSmWpjM.jpg

Tom DeLonge

https://infectiousmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tom-delonge.jpg

B U L L S H I T

[LP0956]

Are you ever going to take a DNA test?

Will it change something in my fenotype? Everyone here knows I am mostly southern euro, slight amerindian and residual german/romenian/ssa, so euro + amerindian scores more than 90% in my DNA
And Tom DeLonge is of Germanic/Central Euro descent and Amerindian

[Meruru]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european box.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

And I did a map for yoooooou :3

http://i.imgur.com/ASpAM1V.png

[alnortedelsur]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

Bull Shit, as always. Here some Latin American castizas with a very standard fair skin tone...

Mexican castiza (more likely full or mostly Spanish on her euro side, and some Amerindian):

http://img.informador.com.mx/biblioteca/imagen/370x277/307/306156.jpg

Venezuelan castiza (very likely full or mostly Spanish ancestry on her Euro side, and some Amerindian):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bia2shgCcAAJdRS.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JequFBfbeno/VUPwG80xi1I/AAAAAAAAAX0/XBLGhG4PDIUa-IWoxWPE1Oqn4peXuAIrACL0B/w800-h800/1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Dgf3l_DaVKc/SsFbn_KscMI/AAAAAAAACXU/XeCc8TbBRFg/s400/johanita-09.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/ufitqqnud/image.jpg

Fuck with the stupid myth about the mixture of mostly south Euro + slight Amerindian (and these girls are at least 20% Amerindian) always produce ugly and darkie Roberto Grande-like pseudo MENA looking people.

[Meruru]

He's not that dark, he's definitely not ugly and he's not MENA-like, as I told previously. His appearance is mostly Iberian, as his ancestry should be, and also the gals you just posted had light-featured parents to look like this.

[alnortedelsur]

He's not that dark, he's definitely not ugly and he's not MENA-like, as I told previously. His appearance is mostly Iberian, as his ancestry should be, and also the gals you just posted had light-featured parents to look like this.

So?? That doesn't change that their ancestry is mostly Iberian + some Amerindian, and they are not darkies or MENA looking.

And about Roberto Grande looking Iberian, you made my day :lol:

[Enflamme]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european box.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

And I did a map for yoooooou :3

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"Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA"

How ? 1/2/3% SSA (for 97/98/99% of European origin)? That's a lot ... irony, of course! As if 3% of blood from North Africa could influence the phenotype of a person: it is totally invisible to the naked eye.

You believe that if a person had 95% blood originating in Northern Europe and 5% originating in Southern Europe, this 5% would have any significant effect on his phenotype?

You're kidding !

Even a person with 95% origin of Spain and 5% of Scandinavian origin: this 5% would not change its phenotype ...

[Meruru]

So?? That doesn't change that their ancestry is mostly Iberian + some Amerindian, and they are not darkies or MENA looking.

And about Roberto Grande looking Iberian, you made my day :lol:

They are for sure darkies in a germanic point of view. As you can see in my first post, I did not say that iberian+amerindian results in MENA looking, just darker than most southern europeans are.

Also, he told: " I am mostly southern euro, slight amerindian and residual german/romenian/ssa, so euro + amerindian scores more than 90% in my DNA"

The only thing here that can push him to the east is the romanian ancestry which is not the major, so the only thing MENA he has its his dark features, reason I painted Turkey with deep red color. Being mostly Iberian with amerindian, why would he look MENA, is he too diferent from the girls you posted? There is minor SSA in colonial brazilians, but iberians can score it too, not in the same proportions of course.

[Meruru]

"Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA"

How ? 1/2/3% SSA (for 97/98/99% of European origin)? That's a lot ... irony, of course! As if 3% of blood from North Africa could influence the phenotype of a person: it is totally invisible to the naked eye.

You believe that if a person had 95% blood originating in Northern Europe and 5% originating in Southern Europe, this 5% would have any significant effect on his phenotype?

You're kidding !

Even a person with 95% origin of Spain and 5% of Scandinavian origin: this 5% would not change its phenotype ...

There's a huge abyss between Southern Euros and North Africans, the same cannot be said about Northern and Southern Euros. Also, I'm not talking about NA, but SSA. Iberians scores both. The more distant the phenotype, the more it affects their appearance.

[alnortedelsur]

They are for sure darkies in a germanic point of view. As you can see in my first post, I did not say that iberian+amerindian results in MENA looking, just darker than most southern europeans are.

Also, he told: " I am mostly southern euro, slight amerindian and residual german/romenian/ssa, so euro + amerindian scores more than 90% in my DNA"

The only thing here that can push him to the east is the romanian ancestry which is not the major, so the only thing MENA he has its his dark features, reason I painted Turkey with deep red color. Being mostly Iberian with amerindian, why would he look MENA, is he too diferent from the girls you posted? There is minor SSA in colonial brazilians, but iberians can score it too, not in the same proportions of course.

Not saying that these girls look full European, because their Amerindian is obvious, but they are not darkies at all. Their skin tone is a standard fair skin tone, common as fuck through all Europe, at least that you pretend that Germanic people are all pale as ghosts, like a sick person, like Conan O'brien or Leven Ramblin.

[nafz]

Why does someone (mostly) southern European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo MENA vibe and someone (mostly) germanic/central European + slight Amerindian has a pseudo Scandinavian look?

Me

http://i.imgur.com/wSmWpjM.jpg

Tom DeLonge

https://infectiousmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tom-delonge.jpg

I can't answer your question but my comment is this:

From what I've read and heard and for reasons unknown to me, many north American (Kevin Costner, Chuck Norris etc) white celebrities tend to claim native American ancestry while there is no evidence for the veracity of their claims.

[Meruru]

Not saying that these girls look full European, because their Amerindian is obvious, but they are not darkies at all. Their skin tone is a standard fair skin tone, common as fuck through all Europe, at least that you pretend that Germanic people are all ghost pale, like a sick person, like Conan O'brien or Leven Ramblin.

They can pass in europe for sure, one of them can pass even as british, but that's the point. Amerindian influences would turn their appearance darker than their european parents, the difference is that in the case of the girls you posted, their parents were probably light-featured. They do not look MENA. It is also important to consider that brazilian amerindians are darker skinned than those from Venezuela and central america.

[alnortedelsur]

They can pass in europe for sure, one of them can pass even as british, but that's the point. Amerindian influences would turn their appearance darker than their european parents, the difference is that in the case of the girls you posted, their parents were probably light-featured. They do not look MENA. It is also important to consider that brazilian amerindians are darker skinned than those from Venezuela and central america.

I don't think Amerindians from Brazil are darker than Amerindians from Venezuela. Before Spaniards arrived to the Americas, most Amerindians living on today's Venezuelan territory (except Timotocuicas in the Venezuelan Andes), came originally from Brazil, and settled in Venezuela in successive waves. That's why most Amerindians from Venezuela are Brazilids.

[Kriptc06]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european box.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

And I did a map for yoooooou :3

http://i.imgur.com/ASpAM1V.png

hwllo there lady can you do one of those yer maps for me? i can p u some pic. thx

[Meruru]

hwllo there lady can you do one of those yer maps for me? i can p u some pic. thx

Só mandar, kerido

[Kriptc06]

Só mandar, kerido

Muchas gracias

[Meruru]

Muchas gracias

Here

http://i.imgur.com/R1ged31.png

[Kriptc06]

Here

http://i.imgur.com/R1ged31.png

Merci), thanks for including Makedonja in the Balkans as typical ;)

[Meruru]

Merci), thanks for including Makedonja in the Balkans as typical ;)

why? do you like them? :)

[Kriptc06]

why? do you like them? :)

I'm 1/4 Bulgarian-gagauz, fyroms are very close, after bulgarians themselves lol

check my sig:

[Meruru]

I'm 1/4 Bulgarian-gagauz, fyroms are very close, after bulgarians themselves lol

I did get the eastern vibe on you, but I wasn't so sure, so I tried not to paint the balkans as a whole but well you could go as far as bulgaria as atypical then

[Kriptc06]

I did get the eastern vibe on you, but I wasn't so sure, so I tried not to paint the balkans as a whole but well you could go as far as bulgaria as atypical then

i dont know if i can, im only a quarter, but its okay)

[Grab the Gauge]

Because Amerindians are Whiter (more European) than southern Europeans, and even many Northern Europeans. ENF = Groid.

[Damião de Góis]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european box.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

And I did a map for yoooooou :3

http://i.imgur.com/ASpAM1V.png

Who is this new brazuca? Did someone let the favela doors open or what?

[Meruru]

Who is this new brazuca? Did someone let the favela doors open or what?

Does it hurts that much when someone highlights the subsaharian influence in your homeland?

Yes, me and my gals, we're going down the favela hills to crush your obsessed whiteness wet dreams.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Bull Shit, as always. Here some Latin American castizas with a very standard fair skin tone...

Mexican castiza (more likely full or mostly Spanish on her euro side, and some Amerindian):

http://img.informador.com.mx/biblioteca/imagen/370x277/307/306156.jpg

Venezuelan castiza (very likely full or mostly Spanish ancestry on her Euro side, and some Amerindian):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bia2shgCcAAJdRS.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JequFBfbeno/VUPwG80xi1I/AAAAAAAAAX0/XBLGhG4PDIUa-IWoxWPE1Oqn4peXuAIrACL0B/w800-h800/1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Dgf3l_DaVKc/SsFbn_KscMI/AAAAAAAACXU/XeCc8TbBRFg/s400/johanita-09.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/ufitqqnud/image.jpg

Fuck with the stupid myth about the mixture of mostly south Euro + slight Amerindian (and these girls are at least 20% Amerindian) always produce ugly and darkie Roberto Grande-like pseudo MENA looking people.

but they look mena more than anything else that isnt latina.
actually the first one looks like a north african or libanese singer :rotfl:

[Damião de Góis]

Does it hurts that much when someone highlights the subsaharian influence in your homeland?

Yes, me and my gals, we're going down the favela hills to crush your obsessed whiteness wet dreams.

Coming from a favelado, it hurts a lot.

[alnortedelsur]

Does it hurts that much when someone highlights the subsaharian influence in your homeland?

Yes, me and my gals, we're going down the favela hills to crush your obsessed whiteness wet dreams.

Only some Iberians score any SSA, and in most cases when they do, they score equal or less than 2% SSA. Something so irrelevant that I find it really stupid to even mention it.

[Meruru]

Coming from a favelado, it hurts a lot.

Ninguém se importa, sua frustração com o meu post não vai mudar os fatos. Por mais que sua mente racista rejeite, minhas irmãs da favela já tinham afinidades com a senzala desde portugal.

[Damião de Góis]

Ninguém se importa, sua frustração com o meu post não vai mudar os fatos. Por mais que sua mente racista rejeite, minhas irmãs da favela já tinham afinidades com a senzala desde portugal.

Impossível sentir algum tipo de frustração com algo vindo de faveleiros. Apenas notei a contínua favelização do forum, provavelmente até devem vir mais a caminho.

[Meruru]

Only some Iberians score any SSA, and in most cases when they do, they score equal or less than 2% SSA. Something so irrelevant that I find it really stupid to even mention it.

If it really is irrelevant, why does it bother him so much? Oh, racism, I get it.

[Meruru]

Impossível sentir algum tipo de frustração com algo vindo de faveleiros. Apenas notei a contínua favelização do forum, provavelmente até devem vir mais a caminho.

https://scontent.faqa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17078667_610943575763330_648587344_n.jpg?oh=8e455b f2374ec53b93d57cfe22f76bd1&oe=58B8A1B6

[alnortedelsur]

but they look mena more than anything else that isnt latina.
actually the first one looks like a north african or libanese singer :rotfl:

lol at your statement about them looking more MENA than Latinas (when they ARE Latinas).

I think that your stereotype about "Latinas" (stupid term pretending to define a "race") is that of a brown triracial Caribbean girl.

They both have a very light and pan-European skin tone. Nothing to do with the stereotypical darkie olive skinned MENA person that Meruru claimed that the mostly southern Euro + slight Amerindian admixture is supposed to produce.

[Meruru]

lol at your statement about them looking more MENA than Latinas (when they ARE Latinas).

I think that your stereotype about "Latinas" (stupid term pretending to define a "race") is that of a brown triracial Caribbean girl.

They both have a very light and pan-European skin tone. Nothing to do with the stereotypical darkie olive skinned MENA person that Meruru claimed that the mostly southern Euro + slight Amerindian admixture is supposed to produce.

I didn't say that, I told you if a southern european, with dark features (which is quite common in the whole southern europe) had children with amerindians, those would get darker than their european parents, and that's obvious. And again, they DO NOT look MENA.

[alnortedelsur]

I didn't say that, I told you if a southern european, with dark features (which is quite common in the whole southern europe) had children with amerindians, those would get darker than their european parents, and that's obvious. And again, they DO NOT look MENA.

The thread is about people who are mostly southern Euro with slight Amerindian, not about the case of a southern Euro with dark features having kids with a full Amerindian.

And most southern Euros are more or less like those girls, color wise.

[CrazyDaisy]

but they look mena more than anything else that isnt latina.
actually the first one looks like a north african or libanese singer :rotfl:

Light eyes can't save Latinas from looking MENA most of the time. A lot of the time it makes them look more MENA. My cousin has light eyes, but that only makes her look more MENA and exotic. It doesn't help her pass in the UK or Germany.

[alnortedelsur]

Light eyes can't save Latinas from looking MENA most of the time. A lot of the time it makes them look more MENA. My cousin has light eyes, but that only makes her look more MENA and exotic. It doesn't help her pass in the UK or Germany.

Light eyes wouldn't save you from looking like an Andid influenced weird looking white Canadian :roll eyes

[LP0956]

Because it adds a slight mongoloid vibe + light features of a germanic person, resembling peoples from the eastern scandinavia. In southern european cases, it turns their features more dark than it already must be and adds a slight exotic appearance that you cannot link to those siberians or something like this because it isn't part of their history, so you put them in the exotic-almost-mena-european box.

You don't look MENA to me, just a "not too exotic" european. You fit in the new world just fine as a white boy or in Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA in them that doesnt make them look MENA, just.. a bit exotic.

And I did a map for yoooooou :3

http://i.imgur.com/ASpAM1V.png

Cutest BR TA member ever <3

[LP0956]

"Portugal since they have a pinch of SSA"

How ? 1/2/3% SSA (for 97/98/99% of European origin)? That's a lot ... irony, of course! As if 3% of blood from North Africa could influence the phenotype of a person: it is totally invisible to the naked eye.

You believe that if a person had 95% blood originating in Northern Europe and 5% originating in Southern Europe, this 5% would have any significant effect on his phenotype?

You're kidding !

Even a person with 95% origin of Spain and 5% of Scandinavian origin: this 5% would not change its phenotype ...

How about this guy? He's an etnic Portuguese with no recent SSA ancestry known

http://i68.tinypic.com/a14wa9.jpg

[LP0956]

Who is this new brazuca? Did someone let the favela doors open or what?

I lmao over NS Portuguese people
Don't they realize they are non-white just for being moor/ssa-raped?

[LP0956]

Impossível sentir algum tipo de frustração com algo vindo de faveleiros. Apenas notei a contínua favelização do forum, provavelmente até devem vir mais a caminho.

Mas a favelização do Brasil começou com a colonização portuguesa.

[LP0956]

I can't answer your question but my comment is this:

From what I've read and heard and for reasons unknown to me, many north American (Kevin Costner, Chuck Norris etc) white celebrities tend to claim native American ancestry while there is no evidence for the veracity of their claims.

But he IS part native American besides claiming it. You can look at his eyes, cheekbones etc and you'll realize his native features. He said his grandma on his mother's side is part amerindian. Take a look at his mother:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwhhl5WAt1r3dcjio1_500.jpg

[Aodhan]

Big Robert is Dinaromed+NativeAmerika+ slightly armenoid can pass anywhere on southern europa

[Abdelnour]

I don't think he looks MENA. I mean he can pass in the Levant but he wouldn't be typical. He wouldn't pass in Arabia or anywhere East from it.

[crazyladybutterfly]

lol at your statement about them looking more MENA than Latinas (when they ARE Latinas).

I think that your stereotype about "Latinas" (stupid term pretending to define a "race") is that of a brown triracial Caribbean girl.

They both have a very light and pan-European skin tone. Nothing to do with the stereotypical darkie olive skinned MENA person that Meruru claimed that the mostly southern Euro + slight Amerindian admixture is supposed to produce.

i said more than anything else that isnt latina.
so they first look what they are but pass better in *some* mena countries than in europe. of course they can still pass in europe but , by looking at these pics, i would say only as exotic

[alnortedelsur]

double post

[alnortedelsur]

i said more than anything else that isnt latina.
so they first look what they are but pass better in *some* mena countries than in europe. of course they can still pass in europe but , by looking at these pics, i would say only as exotic

They would only pass as part of the lightest and most Euro looking MENA people, not to the stereotypical swarthy MENAS that some people have in mind. My point is that their skin tone is very pan European, and is false that the mixture of southern Euro with slight Amerindian is always supposed to produce a swarthy and very exotic look.

And many Latin American castizas (of full or mostly Spanish mix on their Euro side, as it happens with most Latin American castizas) could even have a pseudo eastern European vibe, and pass as Romanian or something like that.

[Carlito's Way]

MENA phenotype happens more with Mexican mestizos, not so much with the rest of you smh plus you are a triracial Roberto Grande, i bet you have family members who look East Indian and shit like that

[LP0956]

Big Robert is Dinaromed+NativeAmerika+ slightly armenoid can pass anywhere on southern europa

Dinarid + Armenoid? What the hell? I'm not full taurid.

[LP0956]

MENA phenotype happens more with Mexican mestizos, not so much with the rest of you smh plus you are a triracial Roberto Grande, i bet you have family members who look East Indian and shit like that

If I am a "tri-racial" because I score 3 races in my DNA, than I can consider myself a German as well because I score considerable Germanic in my DNA (12,5%). Most of my DNA is European + Amerindian, this is a fact.