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kiko
02-28-2017, 10:34 AM
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So I uploaded my 23andme raw data to gedmatch, & I decided to use eurogenes k13, so in my Caucasoid side I got mostly Spanish with some Italian & Portuguese.

On my Amerindian side, it was Pima (Arizona), Mayan, & Karitiana (Brazilian), I thought thought my Amerindian was mostly from the Purepecha tribe since most of my Amerindian side of my family are from Michoacan, with my family in Jalisco being mostly European.

I don't know too much about this stuff, I wonder if a expert like CarlitosWay could help me determine whether I have these ancestries or not?

Kriptc06
02-28-2017, 10:57 AM
So these calcs, don't take them too seriously, see their spreadsheet, they do not have all the tribes/population to match you too, so they match you to the closest ones, being native or European.

For example, some calculators lack Portuguese sampling so I guet Spanish and North Italian first (closest).

So? What does it mean? It means you might not even be related to your results, it's just the closest to your ancestry, even if it's not sampled. By default the closest to Portuguese is Spanish followed by North_Italian... So you ge the deal
I'm Brazilian.

Kriptc06
02-28-2017, 11:07 AM
My advice is, trust what you know about your family, and not what a calc says to you.

Petalpusher
02-28-2017, 11:10 AM
It's on point with your ancestry, Amerindian tends to make you drift to the east even a bit on the European part. Don't mind too much the single pop list, the distances are gigantic (+30). The mix mode describes things better and indeed N.Italy or Portugal are exchangeable for the same fits, they aren't perfect but the matches are much better.

gültekin
02-28-2017, 11:18 AM
Post your MDLP K23b, its a way better for people who have Amerindian heritage

Kriptc06
02-28-2017, 11:19 AM
^yes, Portugal and Italy means Spanish for you. Check this map:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRm_UJQwdr4L8f44cot5XWUIut7HakWY lE5JwDLGEqKqkrn7LvH4KyjZdATeA

And indeed @30 is a huge distance, a native of those ancestries generally gets @3 @4

My oracle for you to have an idea:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 22.33
2 North_Italian 22.39
3 Spanish_Extremadura 22.42
4 Spanish_Galicia 22.74
5 Tuscan 23.3
6 Spanish_Murcia 23.4
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.77
8 Romanian 23.98
9 Spanish_Cataluna 24.17
10 Spanish_Valencia 24.34
11 French 24.44
12 Spanish_Andalucia 24.56
13 Greek_Thessaly 24.61
14 Bulgarian 24.63
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 24.93
16 Serbian 24.95
17 Spanish_Cantabria 25.19
18 West_Sicilian 25.41
19 Italian_Abruzzo 25.82
20 West_German 26.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.9% Portuguese + 17.1% Mayan @ 12.86
2 83.6% Portuguese + 16.4% Pima @ 13
3 82.6% Spanish_Galicia + 17.4% Mayan @ 13.02
4 83.3% Spanish_Galicia + 16.7% Pima @ 13.14
5 83% Spanish_Extremadura + 17% Mayan @ 13.14
6 85.3% Portuguese + 14.7% Karitiana @ 13.2
7 83.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 16.3% Pima @ 13.21
8 81.6% Portuguese + 18.4% North_Amerindian @ 13.23
9 83.1% North_Italian + 16.9% Mayan @ 13.31
10 81.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 18.5% North_Amerindian @ 13.34
11 85% Spanish_Galicia + 15% Karitiana @ 13.34
12 81.2% Spanish_Galicia + 18.8% North_Amerindian @ 13.39
13 85.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 14.7% Karitiana @ 13.46
14 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Pima @ 13.49
15 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Karitiana @ 13.63
16 81.9% North_Italian + 18.1% North_Amerindian @ 13.84
17 82.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 17.8% Mayan @ 14.02
18 82.6% Spanish_Murcia + 17.4% Mayan @ 14.08
19 81.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.2% Mayan @ 14.1
20 82.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 17.1% Pima @ 14.1