Any Balkanites who can beat my European score on FTDNA?

[Lek]

https://s20.postimg.org/n2a88s3fx/IMG_20170306_161350.png

[Wrong]

We will see man xD

[Lek]

Going to do FTDNA and will see xD

I've only seen one Albanian beat it, a close match of mine , 86%.

I haven't seen many south Slav or Greek results but ones I've seen so far score below 80% mark .

[Wrong]

I've only seen one Albanian beat it, a close match of mine , 86%.

I haven't seen many south Slav or Greek results but ones I've seen so far score below 80% mark .The more I see these results, the more it seems to point Albanians to a Northern origin, in North Western shifted direction.

[Kelmendasi]

https://s20.postimg.org/n2a88s3fx/IMG_20170306_161350.png
We will see bro as I have upgraded to Family Finder

[Kelmendasi]

Why does Family Finder assign Europeans more MENA than usual for example I have seen Albos test on 23andme and get 100% Euro but when they test on Family finder they get like 70% Euro and 30% MENA why is this?

[Era]

Their labeling of Middle Eastern is inaccurate. 23andme, dnaland, wegene say we are fully European. They will probably update that or they have a bias.

[cosmoo]

I've only seen one Albanian beat it, a close match of mine , 86%.

I haven't seen many south Slav or Greek results but ones I've seen so far score below 80% mark .

Those aDNA calculators are pretty retarded.
Anyways, I have seen number of Serbs from project site (poreklo) beat it. With quick search I found 2 of them with 91%, one with 90%, one with 93% and one with 94%.

[Kelmendasi]

Their labeling of Middle Eastern is inaccurate. 23andme, dnaland, wegene say we are fully European. They will probably update that or they have a bias.
I guess it's due to them not adding a "Balkan" category

[HellLander87]

canyou post eurogenes k13 results

[Lek]

Those aDNA calculators are pretty retarded.
Anyways, I have seen number of Serbs from project site (poreklo) beat it. With quick search I found 2 of them with 91%, one with 90%, one with 93% and one with 94%.

Never said none can beat it. I would expect some south Slavs to beat it because polaks getb100% but I've seen some south Slavs who don't. And I'm suspecting the southern most South Slavs will have a hard time beating this. Which is funny again as I said considering North Slavs/Polaks get 100% European. Unless they are Mongol mixed.


Ive seen South Serbs only get like 77% and below. Even Herzegovinans who score below 80%

Please, show me an Albanian or Greek who beats this? They can't because their menas genetically.

I can't bother to explain all these things but it's not retarded. It's accurate in many ways. Don't be mad of your mena genes. Embrace it.

[Kelmendasi]

Never said none can beat it. I would expect some south Slavs to beat it because polaks getb100% but I've seen some south Slavs who don't. And I'm suspecting the southern most South Slavs will have a hard time beating this. Which is funny again as I said considering North Slavs/Polaks get 100% European. Unless they are Mongol mixed.


Ive seen South Serbs only get like 77% and below. Even Herzegovinans who score below 80%

Please, show me an Albanian or Greek who beats this? They can't because their menas genetically.

I can't bother to explain all these things but it's not retarded. It's accurate in many ways. Don't be mad of your mena genes. Embrace it.
Bro we nor Greeks are genetically MENAS since we always score European higher than anything else so we are European not MENA

[Linebacker]

I doubt any Balkanite can beat your middle eastern score.

[Seya]

What are the categories included under "European"?

[Kelmendasi]

What are the categories included under "European"?
British Isles, Western and Central European, Scandinavia, Southern European and Eastern European. They don't include Balkan though which is why I think family finder isn't as good for Balkanites

[Kriptc06]

bro is that middle eastern, West Asia or Eastern M.E.?

[Lek]

bro is that middle eastern, West Asia or Eastern M.E.?

Asia minor

[Lek]

I doubt any Balkanite can beat your middle eastern score.

They actually can. My middle eastern score is on the lower side which is why I ask if they can beat the European score which is pretty much the same. More middle east / Jew you score less European.

[Kelmendasi]

They actually can. My middle eastern score is on the lower side which is why I ask if they can beat the European score which is pretty much the same. More middle east you score less European.
Why does Family finder register MENA for Balkanites but other companies like 23andme and DNA land don't? I'm guessing it's because they don't have a Balkan category

[Seya]

British Isles, Western and Central European, Scandinavia, Southern European and Eastern European. They don't include Balkan though which is why I think family finder isn't as good for Balkanites

yeah..makes sense cose if u watch the results of balkanits on gedmatch it's a mix between south euro, east euro and caucasus/west asia. all this goes under "Balkan" normally. but if this category is missing then u get all this subdivisions like ME...

[Kelmendasi]

yeah..makes sense cose if u watch the results of balkanits on gedmatch it's a mix between south euro, east euro and caucasus/west asia. all this goes under "Balkan" normally. but if this category is missing then u get all this subdivisions like ME...
Yh I agree with you and I do think that this is the reason why Balkanites score MENA on Family Finder. In my opinion they should add Balkan into their database just so they make it more accurate

[Wrong]

I doubt any Balkanite can beat your middle eastern score.Average Balkanites score more Middle Eastern than IceT in that test.

I most likely will score higher Middle Eastern % than him now when the results are coming.

[Nilotik]

again, it won't be me who beats your score
http://i.imgur.com/0VKb0w5.png

[Linebacker]

Average Balkanites score more Middle Eastern than IceT in that test.

I haven't tested ftdna yet, but I most likely score higher Middle Eastern % than him.

Maybe just albenians

[Pennywise]

I doubt any Balkanite can beat your middle eastern score.

Bulgarians score the same or even higher amount of Middle East/Asia Minor on FTDNA. Take your red pill before sleep.

[Kelmendasi]

Maybe just albenians
It's not that it's just that Family finder doesn't have a Balkan category meaning that Albanians and other Balkanites will get assigned into different categories which is why most Albos get 100% Euro on most tests but on Family finder they get about 70% Euro and 30% MENA

[The Illyrian Warrior]

+20% MENA for people who usually score 100% European on all testing companies......ftdna should work on more to improve their own testing calculator.

I noticed you are very northern plotting bro, no wonder you get higher European.

[Kelmendasi]

+20% MENA for people who usually score 100% European on all testing companies......ftdna should work on more to improve their own testing calculator.

I noticed you are very northern plotting bro, no wonder you get higher European.
Yh I agree they need to add a Balkan category that way we will score 100-90% Euro

[Kelmendasi]

I have now become determined to beat IceT in the race to who is more Northern and Viking and European hehehehehehe ;)

[Seya]

Maybe just albenians

no one in the balkans gets less then 20% ME. it's always between 20%-50%. i've just seen the results

[Kriptc06]

again, it won't be me who beats your score
http://i.imgur.com/0VKb0w5.png

76+25 = 101:confused:

[Kelmendasi]

no one in the balkans gets less then 20% ME. it's always between 20%-50%. i've just seen the results
But this is on Family finder right as other companies such as 23andme and DNA land gives us usually 100% Euro?

[Kelmendasi]

76+25 = 101:confused:
KEK

[Seya]

But this is on Family finder right as other companies such as 23andme and DNA land gives us usually 100% Euro?

yes..i think this balkan mix (south euro/ME/east euro) is old and it's considered european already...something like finns probably. they also get 100% european on 23andme

[Nilotik]

76+25 = 101:confused:

further proof that ftdna is quite shitty in this regard

[Kelmendasi]

further proof that ftdna is quite shitty in this regard
Yep they really need to upgrade their calculator

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Yep they really need to upgrade their calculator

I can't wait for results to come out and try updated version of Ancient origin tool, I won't even care for this classic racial calculator as it sucks big time....Even DNA.Land seem more accurate inspite looking like a low quality calculator.

[Kelmendasi]

I can't wait for results to come out and try updated version of Ancient origin tool, I won't even care for this classic racial calculator as it sucks big time....Even DNA.Land seem more accurate inspite looking like a low quality calculator.
Yh I agree DNA land seems cool

[Ylla]

http://i64.tinypic.com/c6e0j.png

South Euro :cheer_icoon:

[Ujku]

Asia minor?? Who lived there before Greeks??

[Wrong]

Maybe just albeniansBulgarians and other South Slavs too. Albenians are not abnormal in this regard.

[cosmoo]

Never said none can beat it. I would expect some south Slavs to beat it because polaks getb100% but I've seen some south Slavs who don't. And I'm suspecting the southern most South Slavs will have a hard time beating this. Which is funny again as I said considering North Slavs/Polaks get 100% European. Unless they are Mongol mixed.


Ive seen South Serbs only get like 77% and below. Even Herzegovinans who score below 80%

Please, show me an Albanian or Greek who beats this? They can't because their menas genetically.

I can't bother to explain all these things but it's not retarded. It's accurate in many ways. Don't be mad of your mena genes. Embrace it.

I have never tested for autosomal. I understand those calculators and fallacy behind them perfectly. "MUH GEDMACH KALKULATOR, I KLUSTER SO NORTH, I SUPERIOR SHOW ME U NORTHSEA COMPONENT % KIDDO". Blah.
We are closer on MDLP to Romanians, Gagauz and southern Germans than to Bosnians, or closer to NW Europeans (like Norskis) than to Kosovar Albanians. "But its muh kalkulator and what it saes is 100% tru u idiot not beliv in genetic and scienc!!1"
As for Middle East component, I suppose Neolithic component sometimes gets mistaken for it (even though you can find purer ENF populations in Europe than anywhere outside it).

[Alano]

i am curious how my autosomal results would look like, i guess i would score around 85-90%
my ancestry:
maternal line - grandpa bosnian/kosovar mix, grandma mostly from sandzak, the surname of my grandma's mother(née skrijelj), indicates distant albanian roots(skrijelj/shkreli)
paternal line - my grandpa(surname maka/retkoceri) was kosovar albanian from pristina/bërnica e poshtme, his ancestors originally lived in medvedja/retkocer serbia,
my grandma was also from novi pazar/sandzak
maybe i could beat your score :D but currently i cant afford the money, for the complete ftdna test, its too expensive for me

[Herr Abubu]

I have never tested for autosomal. I understand those calculators and fallacy behind them perfectly. "MUH GEDMACH KALKULATOR, I KLUSTER SO NORTH, I SUPERIOR SHOW ME U NORTHSEA COMPONENT % KIDDO". Blah.
We are closer on MDLP to Romanians, Gagauz and southern Germans than to Bosnians, or closer to NW Europeans (like Norskis) than to Kosovar Albanians. "But its muh kalkulator and what it saes is 100% tru u idiot not beliv in genetic and scienc!!1"
As for Middle East component, I suppose Neolithic component sometimes gets mistaken for it (even though you can find purer ENF populations in Europe than anywhere outside it).

Yeah, exactly my problem with the autosomal stuff. It's arbitrary autistic genojerking. IBD-sharing shows the same thing but reliable, because it measures actual shared ancestry.

[Kelmendasi]

Asia minor?? Who lived there before Greeks??
Bro I wouldn't take Family finder too seriously up until they add the Balkan category as right now they seem to give Balkanites weird and unusual scores and also most companies give us 100% Euro

[Kelmendasi]

I have never tested for autosomal. I understand those calculators and fallacy behind them perfectly. "MUH GEDMACH KALKULATOR, I KLUSTER SO NORTH, I SUPERIOR SHOW ME U NORTHSEA COMPONENT % KIDDO". Blah.
We are closer on MDLP to Romanians, Gagauz and southern Germans than to Bosnians, or closer to NW Europeans (like Norskis) than to Kosovar Albanians. "But its muh kalkulator and what it saes is 100% tru u idiot not beliv in genetic and scienc!!1"
As for Middle East component, I suppose Neolithic component sometimes gets mistaken for it (even though you can find purer ENF populations in Europe than anywhere outside it).
As I have said before Family finder is wrong in giving Balkanites this much MENA and they are mainly do this I believe because they haven't got a cluster for Balkan yet meaning that they will give Balkanites the next nearest thing, so far other companies have been more reliable as they give Balkanites 100% Euro I believe this is mainly due to them actually having a Balkan cluster

[Skerdilaid]

Mine is bigger than yours, bro. You will see it once I post it :p

[The Illyrian Warrior]

i am curious how my autosomal results would look like, my ancestry:maternal line mostly from sandzak/novi pazar(with links to bosnia/kosovo), paternal line mostly from kosovo/pristina(bërnica e poshtme, originally from medvedja/retkocer serbia), but my fathers mom was also from novi pazar/sandzak)
maybe i could beat your score :D but currently i cant afford the money, for the complete ftdna test, its too expensive for me

Are you a Serb or Albo? I'm asking since Bernica e poshtme is a majority Serb settlement.

[Lek]

I have never tested for autosomal. I understand those calculators and fallacy behind them perfectly. "MUH GEDMACH KALKULATOR, I KLUSTER SO NORTH, I SUPERIOR SHOW ME U NORTHSEA COMPONENT % KIDDO". Blah.
We are closer on MDLP to Romanians, Gagauz and southern Germans than to Bosnians, or closer to NW Europeans (like Norskis) than to Kosovar Albanians. "But its muh kalkulator and what it saes is 100% tru u idiot not beliv in genetic and scienc!!1"
As for Middle East component, I suppose Neolithic component sometimes gets mistaken for it (even though you can find purer ENF populations in Europe than anywhere outside it).

You have a coping mechanism going on
Like many ppl her
Lol.. Yeah you're closer my ass. You lived next to us and mixed with us. Cope some more.

You're the most southern plotting Serbs. Nobody said you plot with us necessarily. It rather depends on individuals.


The MENA is not neolithic. It's from the Roman empire
There was a 2nd wave of migration from Asian minor into the Balkans during the Roman empire. It was absorbed by Balkanites. Much like Norman, Goth, Slavic input was.

Cope some more.

[Kelmendasi]

Mine is bigger than yours, bro. You will see it once I post it :p
How much is Euro?

[Skerdilaid]

Are you a Serb or Albo? I'm asking since Bernica e poshtme is a majority Serb settlement.

He is broke xD

[Alano]

Are you a Serb or Albo? I'm asking since Bernica e poshtme is a majority Serb settlement.

lol i am not a serb
bernice has a mixed population(part serbian, part albanian)
my paternal grandfather was 100% gheg albanian( surename maka)

[Ujku]

Bro I wouldn't take Family finder too seriously up until they add the Balkan category as right now they seem to give Balkanites weird and unusual scores and also most companies give us 100% Euro

Ye , it makes no sence
Asia minor LOL

[Alano]

He is broke xD

i could afford the 23andme test, but the ftdna test looks more interesting

[Skerdilaid]

i could afford the 23andme test, but the ftdna test looks more interesting

23andme is for children, little girls basically. Ftdna or Yseq 37 marker test is what you should get, it wouldn't cost you more than $150 ( $90 at yseq). I am guessing fis Krasniq?

[Lek]

Yeah, exactly my problem with the autosomal stuff. It's arbitrary autistic genojerking. IBD-sharing shows the same thing but reliable, because it measures actual shared ancestry.

It measures shared ancestry but it doesn't show where it came from.

[Lek]

Ye , it makes no sence
Asia minor LOL

It makes perfect sense LOL. People from Asia minor meigrated into Balkans during Roman empire and we absorbed them. That's how they explain it. Accept your mena ancestry hahahahaha

[Kelmendasi]

It makes perfect sense LOL. People from Asia minor meigrated into Balkans during Roman empire and we absorbed them. That's how they explain it. Accept your mena ancestry hahahahaha
It's possible but how come other companies don't assign us this MENA ancestry?

[Herr Abubu]

It measures shared ancestry but it doesn't show where it came from.

Sure, but autosomal DNA doesn't show that either.

[Nilotik]

mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena mena
where the fuck do you niggas see the "NA" part? it's just middle eastern ffs

[Lek]

I have never tested for autosomal. I understand those calculators and fallacy behind them perfectly. "MUH GEDMACH KALKULATOR, I KLUSTER SO NORTH, I SUPERIOR SHOW ME U NORTHSEA COMPONENT % KIDDO". Blah.
We are closer on MDLP to Romanians, Gagauz and southern Germans than to Bosnians, or closer to NW Europeans (like Norskis) than to Kosovar Albanians. "But its muh kalkulator and what it saes is 100% tru u idiot not beliv in genetic and scienc!!1"
As for Middle East component, I suppose Neolithic component sometimes gets mistaken for it (even though you can find purer ENF populations in Europe than anywhere outside it).

You don't understand shit BTW. You're just another fucking stupid south Slav who yet has to discover his Albanian relatives and his mena ancestry. The process is very slow my nigger but don't you worry. Once you do autosomal you'll see all your Albanian relatives show up.
It's gonna be hard to swallow at first. But you share more ancestry with us than Germans, you fucktard. You're just living in denial. Especially when you said you came from that tribe that you said but you're so fucking delusional you think you are in no way connected to us LMAO

[The Illyrian Warrior]

lol i am not a serb
bernica has a mixed population(part serbian, part albanian)
my paternal grandfather is 100% gheg albanian( surename maka)

God damn, you have account since 2009 and you barely made yourself visible, :D welcome back I guess. :) Nice to hear you're not a newcomer aka Serb peasant.

PS. I think population structure of village has changed in favor of Albanians lately since Serbs are selling their property from what I hear.

[Kelmendasi]

Skerdi show us your autosomal results pls

[Lek]

It's possible but how come other companies don't assign us this MENA ancestry?

It's because it doesn't test as far back. I've asked these companies personally. 23andme tests 500 years back. Myorigins/familyfinder tests 1300-1000 years back.

[Kelmendasi]

It's because it doesn't test as far back. I've asked these companies personally. 23andme tests 500 years back. Myorigins/familyfinder tests 1300-1000 years back.
Kl. But wouldn't the Middle Eastern be lower than 20% since it dates back all the way to the Roman Empire?

[Skerdilaid]

You don't understand shit BTW. You're just another fucking stupid south Slav who yet has to discover his Albanian relatives and his mena ancestry. The process is very slow my nigger but don't you worry. Once you do autosomal you'll see all your Albanian relatives show up.
It's gonna be hard to swallow at first. But you share more ancestry with us than Germans, you fucktard. You're just living in denial. Especially when you said you came from that tribe that you said but you're so fucking delusional you think you are in no way connected to us LMAO

Hey man, you watch your mouth, guy descents from 'Gothic' farmers. He is crnagoran goth, aka I2a Dinaric.

[Lek]

Skerdi show us your autosomal results pls

He hasn't done ftdna but would be interesting to see if he gets any NW and if we share same Scandinavian matches + that I1 macura from Montenegro. DNA land gives him NW. None of them give me any. They are not 100% accurate but they do tell some truth.

DNA land maybe tests 1000 years back.

[Kelmendasi]

He hasn't done ftdna but would be interesting to see if he gets any NW and if we share same Scandinavian matches + that I1 macura from Montenegro. DNA land gives him NW.
Will be interesting to see if I get any North Western ancestry. As I said I'm determined to beat you at who is more Norse HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;)

[Lek]

Will be interesting to see if I get any North Western ancestry. As I said I'm determined to beat you at who is more Norse HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;)

There seems to be some Norman/goth components in most Albanians. It was absorbed early, before Slavs came and has been part of the Albanian genetic make up for 1000+ years. Then came Slavs.

Before that all we absorbed some Asia minor. It all makes perfect sense. We're not as pure illyrians as many of you think.

These genes have been around very long in Albanians since then.

[Kelmendasi]

There seems to be some Norman components in most Albanians. It was absorbed early, before Slavs came and has been part of the Albanian genetic make up for 1000+ years.
Yh it explains why we score North sea even though at low amounts depending on person. I also believe that some of the North-western is from Varangian Vikings

[Kelmendasi]

There seems to be some Norman/goth components in most Albanians. It was absorbed early, before Slavs came and has been part of the Albanian genetic make up for 1000+ years. Then came Slavs.

Before that all we absorbed some Asia minor. It all makes perfect sense. We're not as pure illyrians as many of you think.

These genes have been around very long in Albanians since then.
For the most part though we are very much isolated and homogenous a little amount of Asia minor doesn't really matter

[Wrong]

My results

http://i.imgur.com/fSf4mZL.png

[Kelmendasi]

My results

http://i.imgur.com/fSf4mZL.png
It seems like you beat IceT bro

[Kelmendasi]

@ Xhak Bauer: Did you get any Northwest Euro?

[Alano]

23andme is for children, little girls basically. Ftdna or Yseq 37 marker test is what you should get, it wouldn't cost you more than $150 ( $90 at yseq). I am guessing fis Krasniq?
sooner or later i will join the balkanite dna gang, but i can't give you any precise information about my fis(maybe you guys could provide me more infos about maka) it could be krasniqi or some other tribe, i need to visit my relatives in kosovo, my paternal grandfather passed away many years ago(he died with 92), at that time i was way too young i.e less informed, to ask him questions about our fis/bajrak etc., I'm sure if he were alive, he could answer me many questions, my father can't remember everything,he lost the contact with his family, there was much dispute in the past, they rarely talk with each other, the last time when i visited kosovo, i was 2 or 3 years old, i have stronger family ties with my sandzak side.
btw: our original surname is maka, but for some strange reasons the yugoslav authorities changed it to "retkoceri", my albanian ancestors lived in medvedja/retkocer, but they later settled in pristina/bernice

[The Illyrian Warrior]

My results

http://i.imgur.com/fSf4mZL.png

You got your ftdna results?

[Wrong]

You got your ftdna results?Got the message yesterday evening

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Got the message yesterday evening

Lucky you, congrats, what batch you were?

[Kelmendasi]

Got the message yesterday evening
How long did it take to arrive?

[Skerdilaid]

sooner or later i will join the balkanite dna gang, but i can't give you any precise information about my fis(maybe you guys could provide me more infos about maka) it could be krasniqi or some other tribe, i need to visit my relatives in kosovo, my paternal grandfather passed away many years ago(he died with 92), at that time i was way too young i.e less informed, to ask him questions about our fis/bajrak etc., I'm sure if he were alive, he could answer me many questions, my father can't remember everything,there was much dispute in the past, he lost the contact with his family, they rarely talk with each other, the last time when i visited kosovo, i was 2 or 3 years old, i have stronger family ties with my sandzak side.
btw: our original surename is maka, but for some strange reasons the yugoslav authorities changed it to "retkoceri", my albanian ancestors lived in medvedja/retkocer, but they later settled in pristina/bernice

I will look you up, but you actually just confirmed it to me that you're Krasniq. My first assumption was based on your original last name 'Maka', but now that you told me you're also ratkocer I am 100% certian that you're Krasniq. Your family are most certianly Muhaxhers with origins from Ratkocer, Medvegja Municipality - used to be a Krasniqi settlement.

[Wrong]

How long did it take to arrive?Almost 7 weeks

[Lek]

How long did it take to arrive?

1 hour xD

[Kelmendasi]

I will look you up, but you actually just confirmed it to me that you're Krasniq. My first assumption was based on your original last name 'Maka', but now that you told me you're also ratkocer I am 100% certian that you're Krasniq. Your family are most certianly Muhaxhers with origins from Ratkocer, Medvegja Municipality - used to be a Krasniqi settlement.
Seems like another J2b2 or E-V13 among us hehehehehe

[Kelmendasi]

Almost 7 weeks
Fucking hell man that's a long time since I heard it only takes 2 weeks

[Wrong]

Fucking hell man that's a long time since I heard it only takes 2 weeksWaiting for it was a pain

[Wrong]

Batch 720, delayed

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Waiting for it was a pain

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/107/432/i_hug_that_feel.png

Indeed it is, what takes them so long to come up with results anyways? 23andme I heard is faster and more efficient on this regard.

[Kelmendasi]

Batch 720, delayed
So it was a delay

[Herr Abubu]

You don't understand shit BTW. You're just another fucking stupid south Slav who yet has to discover his Albanian relatives and his mena ancestry. The process is very slow my nigger but don't you worry. Once you do autosomal you'll see all your Albanian relatives show up.
It's gonna be hard to swallow at first. But you share more ancestry with us than Germans, you fucktard. You're just living in denial. Especially when you said you came from that tribe that you said but you're so fucking delusional you think you are in no way connected to us LMAO

Man, he's saying exactly the opposite. He made fun of these DNA calculators because the results they give for Serbs/Mne are obviously wrong. And he's completely right about it, those calculators tend to make no sense.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Batch 720, delayed

I'm batch 720, still got no results. :/

[Lek]

Man, he's saying exactly the opposite. He made fun of these DNA calculators because the results they give for Serbs/Mne are obviously wrong. And he's completely right about it, those calculators tend to make no sense.

They are wrong for the ones who live in denial.

[Wrong]

I'm batch 720, still got no results. :/It's probably processing for you, give it a day.

[Herr Abubu]

They are wrong for the ones who live in denial.

Right, so Serbs/Mnes are genetically closer to Norwegians than Albanians and closer to Germans than to Bosniaks?

[cosmoo]

You have a coping mechanism going on
Like many ppl her
Lol.. Yeah you're closer my ass. You lived next to us and mixed with us. Cope some more.

You're the most southern plotting Serbs. Nobody said you plot with us necessarily. It rather depends on individuals.


The MENA is not neolithic. It's from the Roman empire
There was a 2nd wave of migration from Asian minor into the Balkans during the Roman empire. It was absorbed by Balkanites. Much like Norman, Goth, Slavic input was.

Cope some more.
I mentioned MDLP calculator as an example of aDNA calculator stupidity, not because I really believe (as your precious calculators claim) that we are closer to Romanians than to Bosnians or to Brits than to Albanians. Please tell me you misinterpreted that on purpose, or otherwise that would be retardness on your part beyond any measure.


You don't understand shit BTW. You're just another fucking stupid south Slav who yet has to discover his Albanian relatives and his mena ancestry. The process is very slow my nigger but don't you worry. Once you do autosomal you'll see all your Albanian relatives show up.
It's gonna be hard to swallow at first. But you share more ancestry with us than Germans, you fucktard. You're just living in denial. Especially when you said you came from that tribe that you said but you're so fucking delusional you think you are in no way connected to us LMAO
Only E1b Ghegs be dem brothas. R1b and J2b2 horselover steppebois can piss off.

[Lek]

Right, so Serbs/Mnes are genetically closer to Norwegians than Albanians and closer to Germans than to Bosniaks?

Some gedmatch calcs and autosomal companies isn't the same. I get Montenigrin and Serb there plenty of times as one of the top matches. It uses population references based on what population it has in it's database. Albanian or Bosnian might not even show up or it depends on the samples.

Some calcs are more accurate than others.

[Lek]

I mentioned MDLP calculator as an example of aDNA calculator stupidity, not because I really believe (as your precious calculators claim) that we are closer to Romanians than to Bosnians or to Brits than to Albanians. Please tell me you misinterpreted that on purpose, or otherwise that would be retardness on your part beyond any measure.


Only E1b Ghegs be dem brothas. R1b and J2b2 horselover steppebois can piss off.

I misinterpreted what I read because I read it fast. But now I read it again.

You are closer to Romanians than Bosnians. Sorry to break it to you. This thread isn't about a mdlp calculator made by some armchair scientist so I don't even know why you bring it up. Because I scored north sea? Man, if you looked at some of my autosomal matches you'd see it's crazily accurate.

Don't know who told you you are closer to Brits than to Albanians dude.

I get montenigrin plenty of times.

[Kelmendasi]

I misinterpreted what I read because I read it fast. But now I read it again.

You are closer to Romanians than Bosnians. Sorry to break it to you. This thread isn't about a mdlp calculator made by some armchair scientist so I don't even know why you bring it up.

Don't know who told you you are closer to Brits than to Albanians dude.

I get montenigrin plenty of times.
Montenigrins are far closer to us than Brits

[Lek]

Montenigrins are far closer to us than Brits

As a whole group. Yes.

[Lek]

http://i64.tinypic.com/c6e0j.png

South Euro :cheer_icoon:

Photoshop. :D


I mentioned MDLP calculator as an example of aDNA calculator stupidity, not because I really believe (as your precious calculators claim) that we are closer to Romanians than to Bosnians or to Brits than to Albanians. Please tell me you misinterpreted that on purpose, or otherwise that would be retardness on your part beyond any measure.


Only E1b Ghegs be dem brothas. R1b and J2b2 horselover steppebois can piss off.

BTW

I made this thread for fun just like that North sea regardless if these things are accurate or not. Why take everything so serious? Can't you have a little bit of fun?

Don't derail these fun threads please.


It's expected from pederbubu here considering he has a small dick and is a extremely frustrated individual.

But please man atleast try to have some fun.

[Wrong]

http://i64.tinypic.com/c6e0j.png

South Euro :cheer_icoon:That looks obviously photoshopped ;)

[Lek]

That looks obviously photoshopped ;)

I don't think anyone beats her south euro score unless they Photoshop :D I get 60% south Euro. Still higher than average. I might come in 2nd place.

[Wrong]

I don't think anyone beats her south euro score unless they Photoshop :D I get 60% south Euro. Still higher than average. I might come in 2nd place.
;)

[Wrong]

Lel @ nordicist montenegrin accusing others of nordicism when done in a joking fashion.

The cringe is real.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/poejv0u9v54/maxresdefault.jpg

[Alano]

Lel @ nordicist montenegrin accusing others of nordicism when done in a joking fashion.

The cringe is real.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/poejv0u9v54/maxresdefault.jpg


"you are a legend, in the eyes, of those who live on the anthrofield, thats why you'll have to handle this mission alone, put this anthrofights behind you, and return as big gheg/gheg boss, thats how skanderbeg would want it(.....boring part) now go, let the gheglegend come back to life"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7d2qm3KxTU

edit: gheg boss sounds funnier than big ghegos lol
http://i68.tinypic.com/3160o43.jpg


I will look you up, but you actually just confirmed it to me that you're Krasniq. My first assumption was based on your original last name 'Maka', but now that you told me you're also ratkocer I am 100% certian that you're Krasniq. Your family are most certianly Muhaxhers with origins from Ratkocer, Medvegja Municipality - used to be a Krasniqi settlement.

thanks bro, i really appreciate your feedback,some are known as retkoceri, and others as ratkoceri, in serbia the village is known as "retkocer", if i remember correctly, there is also a village in kosovo called "ratkocer", the infos you provide me are very informative, i feel glad to be part of the krasniqi clan(but well this is not confirmed yet) :D according to the albanian ftdna bloodline group, krasniqis are either j2b2 or ev13. i don't want to derail IceTs thread, if you have more infos, feel free to PM me, in the next few weeks/months, i will definitely get a dna test,as i already mentioned, i'm leaning more towards the ftdna test, for starters the autosomal feature is serviceable, but thankfully, the lack of some reference populations, can be compensate with thirdparty calculators, one of the main factors in favor for ftdna, is the better and more in-depth ydna analysis(compared to 23andme)first i have to make myself more familiar with all this dna/genetic stuff, my knowledge with such topics is very limited, i understand some things, but i lack the "in-depth knowledge"

[Ylla]

That looks obviously photoshopped ;)

Why :p what do you get?

[Ylla]

Ftdna myOrigins sucks..

Who the hell decided not to add balkan reference, are we not important?

[Wrong]

Why :p what do you get?Check page 8 ;)

[Trojet]

thanks bro, i really appreciate your feedback,some are known as retkoceri, and others as ratkoceri, in serbia the village is known as "retkocer", if i remember correctly, there is also a village in kosovo called "ratkocer", the infos you provide me are very informative, i feel glad to be part of the krasniqi clan(but well this is not confirmed yet) :D according to the albanian ftdna bloodline group, krasniqis are either j2b2 or ev13. i don't want to derail IceTs thread, if you have more infos, feel free to PM me, in the next few weeks/months, i will definitely get a dna test,as i already mentioned, i'm leaning more towards the ftdna test, for starters the autosomal feature is serviceable, but thankfully, the lack of some reference populations, can be compensate with thirdparty calculators, one of the main factors in favor for ftdna, is the better and more in-depth ydna analysis(compared to 23andme)first i have to make myself more familiar with all this dna/genetic stuff, my knowledge with such topics is very limited, i understand some things, but i lack the "in-depth knowledge"

You should definitely do FTDNA Y37 + FamilyFinder in a combo package (if you want Autosomal). You may order from here (https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?group=AlbanianBloodlines&code=B11086). Krasniqi is one of the Clans that we really need more results from at FTDNA. 23andMe is such a low res Y-DNA that it won't get you or our project anywhere.
If you don't care about Autosomal (which to me is highly overrated), the other much cheaper option is YSEQ Alpha-Beta Y37 for $85 (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=34&osCsid=d57300f892767f91c0b1257a85953c2a) and join the Albanian group there for results analysis.

[Dema]

Anyways, I have seen number of Serbs from project site (poreklo) beat it. With quick search I found 2 of them with 91%, one with 90%, one with 93% and one with 94%.

True, and here ill post some of them:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/EIEnTghSa40Ra2Fa4kWdy5NZyJZii9j8RqW7O_oDyzs=w907-h432-no


This one is j2b1:
http://s32.postimg.org/q1zaaz7id/Untitled2.jpg

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I just checked out my ftdna account and saw that ftdna have postponed results date by another month.....What the fuck are they doing ffs?!

[Seya]

I mentioned MDLP calculator as an example of aDNA calculator stupidity, not because I really believe (as your precious calculators claim) that we are closer to Romanians than to Bosnians or to Brits than to Albanians. Please tell me you misinterpreted that on purpose, or otherwise that would be retardness on your part beyond any measure.

if this are the results u're getting then it must be true for u..it doesn't mean it's the same for all serbs or montenegrins. all my top matches are from the balkans...i get sometimes tuscan or sicilian but never stuff like german or brit...

[Wrong]

Photoshop. :D



BTW

I made this thread for fun just like that North sea regardless if these things are accurate or not. Why take everything so serious? Can't you have a little bit of fun?

Don't derail these fun threads please.


It's expected from pederbubu here considering he has a small dick and is a extremely frustrated individual.

But please man atleast try to have some fun.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ec/ecc8f3ae012fc906a14f2c7a4d61fb9baf40823a4dbc81cac7 28ae4d0b869e42.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

I just checked out my ftdna account and saw that ftdna have postponed results date by another month.....What the fuck are they doing ffs?!
Yh my results have been postponed as well till April

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Yh my results have been postponed as well till April

I guess many test results have been delayed esp. batch I'm part of, look this place up if you're interested for further update.
http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=39644&page=52

[Kelmendasi]

I guess many test results have been delayed esp. batch I'm part of, look this place up if you're interested for further update.
http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=39644&page=52
I'm batch 728

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I'm batch 728

There are costumers with 718 batch waiting for results (I'm batch 720), they are really slow with results, should do more to speed up the process.

[Kelmendasi]

There are costumers with 718 batch waiting for results (I'm batch 720), they are really slow with results, should do more to speed up the process.
Mine are expected for the 4th of April till 17th of April

[The Illyrian Warrior]

if this are the results u're getting then it must be true for u..it doesn't mean it's the same for all serbs or montenegrins. all my top matches are from the balkans...i get sometimes tuscan or sicilian but never stuff like german or brit...

You're a med, no wonder you're hot. :D

[DRUM]

https://puu.sh/sPjIc/a452ad37f5.png

piece of shit autosomal results....

maybe its good for adopted people or new world mongrels...



but ftdna is right we are MENA not 100 european

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Mine are expected for the 4th of April till 17th of April

These dates are estimates, anyways I expect to get my results before estimated deadline of 4th April.

[Kelmendasi]

These dates are estimates, anyways I expect to get my results before estimated deadline of 4th April.
True my Y37 results were predicted to come on the 15th of March but they came weeks before