Paschou et al Supplementary Figures -- Crete, Lakonia, Sicily, and Dodecanese placement.

[Sikeliot]

This might give some information about those Peloponnesians in the new study who have no Slavic input.

Here, there is a giant Cretan cluster (red).

The Sicilians (black asterisks **) and Dodecanese plot on both sides of the Cretan cluster, some being near the more European end of the Cretan cluster, others on the exotic end. Most Dodecanese on the exotic end. Some of the Sicilians plot in the middle of the Cretan cluster.

The SE Laconian person is with the Sicilians on the exotic end, even further out than the Cretans!!

Other mainland Greeks are closer to the Tuscans (blue triangles).

This suggests that the Peloponnese cluster does indeed extend further out than Crete, as do Sicilians, though you can generally group SE Laconia (and other isolated Peloponnesians), Cretans, Sicilians, and Dodecanese together all separate from the core mainland Greeks.

The admixture based network there, too, shows a close relationship between Crete, Dodecanese, Sicily, and Lakonia.

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[Sikeliot]

Another one:

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[Sikeliot]

It also seems that given the number of Cretans sampled versus Sicilians and Laconians, you can see some of the latter two are hidden under all of the Cretans.

[Petalpusher]

Their 3d pca looks great, the problem is unless you are able to navigate in them, it's difficult to a get a good grasp on the differences.

From the admixture runs, i guess the main difference is Sicily's N.African is beyond noise, probably the only thing that sets them apart in reality.

[Sikeliot]

From the admixture runs, i guess the main difference is Sicily's N.African is beyond noise, probably the only thing that sets them apart in reality.

That sets apart who? Sicily and Crete?

[Petalpusher]

That sets apart who? Sicily and Crete?

All the Greeks pop. Crete has more neareastern dna, the pink stuff that peaks in some Yemenite @K4

[Sikeliot]

All the Greeks pop. Crete has more neareastern dna, the pink stuff that peaks in some Yemenite @K4

But looking at the PCA plot, it is possible for Sicilians to plot more Near Eastern than Cretans (most of them plot alongside the Cretans, one in front of them with mainlanders, and two on the other side near Cappadoccians), and even one of the Laconians does.

Though this might have to do with Sicily having less of the blue North Euro element than Crete, and the minor North African shifting them further out.

[Sikeliot]

All the Greeks pop compared to Sicily. Crete has more neareastern dna, the pink stuff that peaks in some Yemenite @K4

See my comment above.

[Petalpusher]

See my comment above.

Yes because in a way N.African is like having more neareastern dna, if you put aside the fact N.African in the meantime also have more European admixture compared to the neareast.

[Sikeliot]

Yes because in a way N.African is like having more neareastern dna, if you put aside the fact N.African in the meantime also have more European admixture compared to the neareast.

True.

So if Cretans have more North Euro and West Asian, but no North African, it makes sense that Sicilians and Cretans might average to the same place, and some Sicilians can plot closer to the Near East than Cretans do.

Overall I think one could say Lakonia, Sicily, Crete, and even some Dodecanese are all one cluster. Wouldn't you agree?

The other Peloponnesians seem to go more toward Tuscany. I think the same effect can be seen on the recent study's PCA plot.