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http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf
Can someone well versed in genetics interpret this paper?
Is it any good and does this prove that dindus wuz kangz n' sheeit?
Egyptian
03-09-2017, 09:49 PM
Again we go with this topic .. The black blood in Egypt came from Nubia and Sudan , the 3 considered 1 country yet Sudan took its independence while Egypt and Nubia remained one.
A lot of Egyptian Kings came from Nubia and Sudan .. the last of them were Muhammed Naguib the first president of the republic of Egypt 1952 (his mother was Sudanese) .. Also Sadat was half Nubian or Sudanese i guess.
Egyptian
03-09-2017, 09:50 PM
and plus , Egypt was never white.
and plus , Egypt was never white.
I never said that broski, they were mixed most likely, but this paper claims that they were basically closest to modern SSA. I want a genetictard to debunk this paper. It seems quite shady.
Abdelnour
03-09-2017, 10:20 PM
Afrocentrists also tries to claim Carthage as a Black Civilization.
Even the History Channel bought into the bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfIe9P13X8s
XenophobicPrussian
03-12-2017, 07:29 PM
I want a genetictard to debunk this paper.
You called?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_hqvSMlqw
This pretty much sums it up well. Basically, they used 8 loci, when you can use thousands. The former owner of DNA Tribes himself admitted this only determines they had some SSA ancestry himself, not how much. It's the same reason that Craig Cogg nut got 14% SSA on that TV show(the testers actually probably knew exactly what they were doing with that). The company is also shady as fuck and is run by blacks.
http://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/RamsesIII-and-Isis.jpg
(even if you want to claim he looks Somali, even though tanned semite is more likely based on the woman, Somali doesn't translate to "Great Lakes" or "Southern African")
There were blacks in Egypt during Ramesses' time though.
http://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/hornungdistortiongz4.jpg
Antimage
03-12-2017, 07:32 PM
Why does it even matter? I don't understand why some people cling on this kind of stuff.
You called?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_hqvSMlqw
This pretty much sums it up well. Basically, they used 8 loci, when you can use thousands. The former owner of DNA Tribes himself admitted this only determines they had some SSA ancestry himself, not how much. It's the same reason that Craig Cogg nut got 14% SSA on that TV show(the testers actually probably knew exactly what they were doing with that). The company is also shady as fuck and is run by blacks.
http://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/RamsesIII-and-Isis.jpg
(even if you want to claim he looks Somali, even though tanned semite is more likely based on the woman, Somali doesn't translate to "Great Lakes" or "Southern African")
There were blacks in Egypt during Ramesses' time though.
http://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/hornungdistortiongz4.jpg
I actually watched that video. I found it after making this thread. If you say what he claimed in the video, I'll trust on of the best local TA genetictard.
Do we actually have any autosomal like DNA from ancient Egyptians? What were they like according to you? I know some white nationalists claimed a few years ago that king Tut had a European haplogroup, I think?
XenophobicPrussian
03-12-2017, 08:49 PM
I actually watched that video. I found it after making this thread. If you say what he claimed in the video, I'll trust on of the best local TA genetictard.
Do we actually have any autosomal like DNA from ancient Egyptians? What were they like according to you? I know some white nationalists claimed a few years ago that king Tut had a European haplogroup, I think?
There's no ancient Egyptian autosomal DNA, there's some mtDNA studies. Overall the Egyptians keep their samples away from everyone, and there hasn't been any autosomal studies of any ancient civilizations yet.
I would guess they were exactly like Bronze Age Levantines(who had 0% SSA, they still cluster around populations with some SSA because modern Levantines have more European or ANE/CHG bringing them up) as in Europe most populations had formed by the bronze age. There are archeological, pottery, mtDNA and language links between the Levant and Egypt during the time period of the first dynasty.
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2pov3v7.jpg
Some Swiss company called igenea claims to have determined Tut's haplogroup(specific Western European R1b) from zooming in on one of the papers with Y-STR calls shown in a TV program about Tut. The papers were later censored from that program and they won't give out the data for anyone to double check. I wouldn't make any conclusion unless they actually let Tut's DNA out in public, but of course if the results are controversial they probably won't, lol.
CocoaBANANA
03-12-2017, 09:20 PM
"dindus" "we wuz kangz" , the nerve of the devils.:rolleyes:
Have you read the news? Ramses III and his son, carried the SUBSAHARAN Y-DNA E1b1a haplogroup.:eek:
Now where is the haplogroup of king Tut? I thought Carsten Pusch, dissmissed the claims of IGenea...
Who's laughing now?
XenophobicPrussian
03-12-2017, 09:25 PM
"dindus" "we wuz kangz" , the nerve of the devils.:rolleyes:
Have you read the news? Ramses III and his son, carried the SUBSAHARAN Y-DNA E1b1a haplogroup.:eek:
Now where is the haplogroup of king Tut? I thought Carsten Pusch, dissmissed the claims of IGenea...
Who's laughing now?
The claim that they have a SSA clade of E1b cannot be peer reviewed or confirmed, just like the Tut R1b, so your claim is useless. Besides, the only SSA y-dna haplogroups are A/B. E is a Basal Eurasian haplogroup, even if Ramses had a clade of E1b that peaks in modern SSAs, it could mean his kind spread it there.
CocoaBANANA
03-12-2017, 09:34 PM
The claim that they have a SSA clade of E1b cannot be peer reviewed or confirmed, just like the Tut R1b, so your claim is useless. Besides, the only SSA y-dna haplogroups are A/B. E is a Basal Eurasian haplogroup, even if Ramses had a clade of E1b that peaks in modern SSAs, it could mean his kind spread it there.
NOPE.
http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e8268/
"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1⇓); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2⇓)."
--Hawass et al 2012. Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III. British Medical Journal, BMJ2012;345:e8268
Peterski
03-13-2017, 11:39 PM
Ancient Egyptian DNA:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-human-dna-at-saa-2017.html
Petalpusher
03-14-2017, 12:00 AM
Ancient Egyptian DNA:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-human-dna-at-saa-2017.html
Looks like they were fully basal, without the SSA, or anything else (ANE, WHG)
Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more Near Eastern ancestry than present-day Egyptians, who received additional Sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times.
XenophobicPrussian
03-14-2017, 03:53 PM
Ancient Egyptian DNA:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-human-dna-at-saa-2017.html
The problem with this is it's only from 1000 BC. It's like judging who was Romans based on 200 AD samples or something.
Ancient Egypt was 3100 BC-1800 BC, when the pyramids were built, etc, and really, you would want the original rulers around 3000 BC. After that you had Hyksos/Canaanite dynasties and migrations from the Levant, Libyan dynasties(around the time of these samples) and even a Nubian dynasty around 600 BC(although quickly conquered by the Persians). These elite mummies are probably going to be of recent foreign origin from Libya.
CocoaBANANA
03-14-2017, 04:59 PM
New Kingdom pharoahs were negroes, and that's a fact.
Egyptian
03-14-2017, 05:35 PM
Ancient Egyptian DNA:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-human-dna-at-saa-2017.html
that's bullshit.. Egyptians nowadays more than 150 million person , you can't compare this number to 4 or 5 millions.
"dindus" "we wuz kangz" , the nerve of the devils.:rolleyes:
Have you read the news? Ramses III and his son, carried the SUBSAHARAN Y-DNA E1b1a haplogroup.:eek:
Now where is the haplogroup of king Tut? I thought Carsten Pusch, dissmissed the claims of IGenea...
Who's laughing now?
Im done. LMAO
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