What would Jesus & Buddha score on a DNA test?

[Iloko]

Any ideas?

[Nehellenia]

Jesus would be super MENA of course, and Buddha would look probably like a mix between South Asian, South East Asian with some minor East Asian Altaic something something.. due to the fact he was technically from Nepal.

[Shah-Jehan]

Jesus would probably score what Levantine groups from the area score.

Buddha was born in Lumbini, currently in Nepal, and was a Pali speaking kshatriya. If he lived today, he'd be a Bihari.

[shahenshah]

Jesus: Typical levantine(west eursian)
Buddha: Typical North Indian(mostly west eurasian with significant south eurasian and slight east eurasian)

[Shah-Jehan]

Jesus would probably score what Levantine groups from the area score.

Buddha was born in Lumbini, currently in Nepal, and was a Pali speaking kshatriya. If he lived today, he'd be a Bihari.

Buddha's family was from the noble Shakya clan of the Vedic great kingdom of Kosala, and he was a Suryavnashi Kshatriya (thus a descendant of Ikshvaku), like me:cool:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Mahajanapadas_%28c._500_BCE%29.png/800px-Mahajanapadas_%28c._500_BCE%29.png

[Nehellenia]

Buddha's family was from the noble Shakya clan of the Vedic great kingdom of Kosala, and he was a Suryavnashi Kshatriya (thus a descendant of Ikshvaku), like me:cool:


How would you guess Buddha may of looked in a modern example based on that..? because my mental image may be wrong xD
Heres my Jesus guess though -> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/22/46/33/224633d788f277a3fbfc84128b302e4b.jpg

[Squall Leonhart]

Buddha:

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/77000/620x/561ff241161f3_ashtintoar.jpg

100% Übermacht Aryan Jatt

[shahenshah]

How would you guess Buddha may of looked in a modern example based on that..? because my mental image may be wrong xD
Heres my Jesus guess though -> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/22/46/33/224633d788f277a3fbfc84128b302e4b.jpg

Buddha in real life:
Pic from an indian tv series
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/1e/5f/861e5f5ce66035a984aa91b945af256c.jpg

[Nehellenia]

Buddha in real life:
Pic from an indian tv series
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/1e/5f/861e5f5ce66035a984aa91b945af256c.jpg

They could of given him normal curly hair heh :P but yeah i guess the face could be close enough.

[Shah-Jehan]

How would you guess Buddha may of looked in a modern example based on that..? because my mental image may be wrong xD
Heres my Jesus guess though -> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/22/46/33/224633d788f277a3fbfc84128b302e4b.jpg

Well, Buddha already has statues, he looked like his original statues from the Indian subcontinent.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg/800px-Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg

[Mortimer]

Well, Buddha already has statues, he looked like his original statues from the Indian subcontinent.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg/800px-Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg

NI/IB

[Dick]

I respect Buddhism. Namaste.

[War Chef]

If he lived today, he'd be a Bihari.

There was a re-population of people from the south and they pushed north 1,000 years or so after his death, changing the ethnic composition. Also Buddha was upper class. Looked a few shades lighter than today's Biharis, IMO.... Just so you get an idea, here is Nepalese for comparison:

http://i.imgur.com/KVcaPtM.png

Texts say he had grey hair from over-exerting himself in his younger days, and also his skin was described radiant due to lack of stress agitating it. Buddha never called himself Buddha, that's western bullshit... There was only one instance where Buddha was mentioned as Buddha and it goes something like this:


When the Buddha started to wander around India shortly after his enlightenment, he encountered several men who recognized him to be a very extraordinary being. They asked him: "Are you a deva (angel) ?" "No," he replied. "Are you a reincarnation of deva?" "No," he replied."Are you a wizard, then?" "No." "Well, are you a man?" "No." "So what are you?" They asked, being very perplexed. Buddha simply replied: "I am awake." Buddha means “the awakened one.”

The actual name he called himself, and others called him was: Tathāgata - one who is beyond all coming and going.

He may have looked something like this, and unlike western pictures, he wore a white robe, not orange:

http://i.imgur.com/XsgBkg0.jpg

[Shah-Jehan]

There was a re-population of people from the south and they pushed north 1,000 years or so after his death, changing the ethnic composition. Also Buddha was upper class. Looked a few shades lighter than today's Biharis, IMO.... Just so you get an idea, here is Nepalese for comparison:

http://i.imgur.com/KVcaPtM.png

Texts say he had grey hair from over-exerting himself in his younger days, and also his skin was described radiant due to lack of stress agitating it. Buddha never called himself Buddha, that's western bullshit... There was only one instance where Buddha was mentioned as Buddha and it goes something like this:



The actual name he called himself, and others called him was: Tathāgata - one who is beyond all coming and going.


Buddha wasn't an ethnic "Nepali" (khas people) though, he spoke Pali and their modern derivatives are the Eastern Hindi languages (found in Uttar Pradesh/Bihar), Maithil (found in Bihar/southern Nepal), Oriya (found in Orissa) and Bengali-Assamese (found in Bengal, Assam).

Well, yeah, he was obviously didn't look like a Bihari Shudra, but rather like some type of Rajput since he was a kshatriya. Anyway, those 32 signs of a great man or whatever you're quoting are kinda' unrealistic (like a lot of them), like how he had 40 teeth, even had saliva that improved taste of food (lmao) etc.


They called him by his name, "Siddhartha Gautama" most likely. "Gautama" even today is actually a clan of Suryavanshi Rajputs.

[Shah-Jehan]

He may have looked something like this, and unlike western pictures, he wore a white robe, not orange:

http://i.imgur.com/XsgBkg0.jpg


I don't think he looked that dark lol, he was actually made an Avatar of Vishnu in Hinduism, like Krishna/Rama etc. They usually paint him like this so he had lighter spectrum of South Asian complexion (most likely)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Vi%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%87u_as_Buddha_making_gesture_of_ dharmacakrapravartana_flanked_by_two_disciples.jpg

https://indrajitrathore.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/1445buddha.jpg

[War Chef]

Buddha wasn't an ethnic "Nepali" (khas people) though, he spoke Pali and their modern derivatives are the Eastern Hindi languages (found in Uttar Pradesh/Bihar), Maithil (found in Bihar/southern Nepal), Oriya (found in Orissa) and Bengali-Assamese (found in Bengal, Assam).

Well yeah, I'm aware of that. But by showing genetics of Nepali's I'm giving you the idea of what kind of genes we're working with, namely 2 European "Aryan" ones.


Anyway, those 32 signs of a great man or whatever you're quoting are kinda' unrealistic (like a lot of them), like how he had 40 teeth, even had saliva that improved taste of food (lmao) etc.

I don't quote that garbage. I was referring to this passage straight from the Pali Canon:


Before my Awakening, when I was still an unawakened Bodhisatta, the thought occurred to me: ‘Household life is confining, a dusty path. Life gone forth is the open air. It isn’t easy, living in a home, to practice the holy life totally perfect, totally pure, a polished shell. What if I, having shaved off my hair & beard and putting on the ochre robe, were to go forth from the household life into homelessness?’ (MN 36.12)

So, at a later time, while still young, a black-haired young man endowed with the blessings of youth in the first stage of life — and while my parents, unwilling, were crying with tears streaming down their faces — I shaved off my hair & beard, put on the ochre robe and went forth from the home life into homelessness. (MN 26.14)

& yea my mistake, I was wrong about him not having a orange robe (ochre) but I'm almost sure he later changed it to white.


They called him by his name, "Siddhartha Gautama" most likely. "Gautama" even today is actually a clan of Suryavanshi Rajputs.

Nah dude, that was his ego-name.... He had people call him Tathāgata, however you pronounce it.

[War Chef]

Well, Buddha already has statues, he looked like his original statues from the Indian subcontinent.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg/800px-Gandhara_Buddha_%28tnm%29.jpeg

That's not from India, but Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhara_Kingdom

[Purohit ji]

Buddha genetic similar to uppercaste hindus
Jesus similar to west asians

[Shah-Jehan]

That's not from India, but Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhara_Kingdom

That's from Pakistan (Indian subcontinent). Most of Gandhara was located in Pohotar plateau and swat valley in Pakistan, and they spoke an Indo-Aryan Prakrit called Gandhari, not Iranic.

But, yeah, these are among the most famous of relatively original statues, but the ones from his actual birthplace are not in good condition.

[Enflamme]

How would you guess Buddha may of looked in a modern example based on that..? because my mental image may be wrong xD
Heres my Jesus guess though -> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/22/46/33/224633d788f277a3fbfc84128b302e4b.jpg

Bullshit.

This is Jesus, a pure Mediterranean not like your Arabic guy
https://rlv.zcache.fr/le_linceul_de_turin_est_il_le_vrai_visage_de_jesus _posters-rfb370c84f4104a7c9f56c479f4e30d3d_w2y_8byvr_512.jp g

[Nehellenia]

Bullshit.

This is Jesus, a pure Mediterranean not like your Arabic guy
https://rlv.zcache.fr/le_linceul_de_turin_est_il_le_vrai_visage_de_jesus _posters-rfb370c84f4104a7c9f56c479f4e30d3d_w2y_8byvr_512.jp g

The date of the shroud of Turin has yet to be dated to being the 'actual' shroud of Jesus, so i am skeptical unless it can be verified, can't just believe in every shroud or relic without evidence.. as apparently the pieces of the 'cross of jesus' used to be sold to pilgrims in the holy land and if every piece of wood was really his cross for instance, it must of been 9 stories tall... the pilgrims were always exploited by the church for monetary gain, the shroud has to prove itself like any other.
No one can prove what jesus looked like yet. Some older reconstructed Israelites around 3000 years old, Jesus is from the house of David isn't he..?
So what year was David born, between 970-1010bc (totally fitting around the age of these skulls) ->

http://www.simchajtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/BF_Group_Shot_001.jpg

[Seya]

The date of the shroud of Turin has yet to be dated to being the 'actual' shroud of Jesus, so i am skeptical unless it can be verified, can't just believe in every shroud or relic without evidence.. as apparently the pieces of the 'cross of jesus' used to be sold to pilgrims in the holy land and if every piece of wood was really his cross for instance, it must of been 9 stories tall... the pilgrims were always exploited by the church for monetary gain, the shroud has to prove itself like any other.
No one can prove what jesus looked like yet. Some older reconstructed Israelites around 3000 years old, Jesus is from the house of David isn't he..?
So what year was David born, between 970-1010bc (totally fitting around the age of these skulls) ->

http://www.simchajtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/BF_Group_Shot_001.jpg

it has been dated to the middle ages already

[Nehellenia]

it has been dated to the middle ages already

Well, that solves it then, not old enough.

[Robocop]

Any ideas?

100% Wise & Spiritual.

[Dema]

Jesus as most likely J

[Hamlet]

Jesus would score similar to Syrian Jews, whereas the Buddha would score similar to tribes in South Asia that haven't mixed much - he would have been quite Aryan (he was a prince (high-caste), had blue eyes etc.).

[JMack]

Jesus would score like modern Samaritans, Druzes and Lebanese.

Buddha like modern Kashmiris, Kalash, Pathans. I don't think Buddha looked like modern average Nepalis, I have been to Nepal and they have a huge Mongoloid influence. Curiously, the Caucasoid/predominantly Caucasoid types I met in Nepal were on average lighter than the ones I saw in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. I have seen a Nepali guy one time who could pass as European.

[Robocop]

I am convinced that Buddha was R1 when ti comes about Y-DNA.

About Jesus, well he was a jewish person of that time, he was like rest of jews.

[Anglojew]

Jesus would have been similar to a contemporary Mandean while Buddha would have been similar to a contemporary Slav


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le-kjGp1xxQ

[Iloko]

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