Famous people with Native American ancestry

[Ilma]

Post famous people (or not famous if verified) having Native American ancestry who are mixed.

Do you think it is obvious to notice they have such ancestry on their features ?

Which ancestry is predominant on them ?

Jessica Alba

Jessica Alba is Danish, French Canadian and Mexican American, a DNA test on George Lopez's talk show, Lopez Tonight, showed that Jessica is 87% European and 13% Indigenous American.

http://br.jetss.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Jessica-Alba.jpg

https://fashionista.com/.image/c_fit,cs_srgb,w_620/MTMyOTIxMjIxNTIzMjM4ODgy/screen-shot-2015-09-09-at-110523-pmpng.png

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/8/16/43/08/@/1913882-jessica-alba-premiere-du-film-escape-950x0-1.jpg

Shannon Elizabeth

Shannon Elizabeth is of Irish, English, German and Cherokee ancestry.

http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/8621178/1118full-shannon-elizabeth.jpg

http://ecowallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/2626_shannon_elizabeth.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Shannon_Elizabeth_2006_(retouched).jpg/220px-Shannon_Elizabeth_2006_(retouched).jpg

Heather Locklear

Yes blue-eyed, blonde haired Heather Locklear has Native American blood.
Her father is Lumbee Indian, and Heather has enough Lumbee blood in her that the tribal enrollment people themselves recognize her as Lumbee.
"I grew up with several Lumbee Indians myself, and I know that Locklear is a fairly common name."

http://cdn.skim.gs/image/upload/v1456339084/msi/heather-locklear_ns5x52.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/90/b9/f1/90b9f1684de2192714a75d2909dd2860.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/7b/78/047b782e1d4129bbc87e9db66bbb1bc3.jpg

Source for those ones : https://hubpages.com/entertainment/Beautiful-Native-American-Women-2

[Kelmendasi]

Most of white Americans claim Cherokee ancestry for some reason:noidea:

[Ilma]

Rita Coolidge

Rita Coolidge is of Scottish and Native American (Cherokee) ancestry.

http://www.fallbrook.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Opt.2_photo_credit_by_Ahrend_Studios1.jpg

http://img.cdandlp.com/2015/03/imgL/11741107.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/21/73/38/2173385dab2b0018c04e37b310c25f66.jpg

Julia Jones

She's English, African, Chickasaw, and Mississippi Choctaw descent

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/twilightsaga/images/5/55/Julia-jones-090.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110923234633

http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Julia-Jones.jpg

https://www.picsofcelebrities.com/celebrity/julia-jones/pictures/large/best-pictures-of-julia-jones.jpg

Karina Lombard

Actress and singer Karina Lombard is of Native American (Lakota), Swiss, Russian and Italian descent.

http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/795312/karina-lombard-profile.jpg

http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/19458/Karina-Lombard-in-The-Doors.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Karina_Lombard_Cabourg_2011.jpg

Source : https://hubpages.com/entertainment/Beautiful-Native-American-Women-2

[nafz]

Most of white Americans claim Cherokee ancestry for some reason:noidea:

It is mostly some celebrities that do this (Kevin Costner, Chuck Norris among others) although there is nor proof of their claims.

I too cannot understand why.

[Nehellenia]

If you check out ethnicelebs and look up these actresses.. a lot of them are in fact white according to their family tree tracing.
Only Jessica Alba and Heather Locklear have native american ancestry xD

Jessica Alba - Mexican, including Spanish, Indigenous Mexican/Mayan, and distant Sephardi Jewish (father) Danish, Welsh, German, English, Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, French (mother)
Jessica Biel - Hungarian Jewish (great-grandfather), Danish (great-grandmother), English, along with German, Swiss-German, remote Swedish and French
Beyonce Knowles - African-American, Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish
Cameron Diaz - Cuban (Spanish) (father) English, Scottish, Irish, German (mother)
Demi Moore - English, Scottish
Ava Gardner - English
Farrah Fawcett - English, Welsh and Scottish
Fergie - German, Scottish, English, Irish, Northern Irish (Scots-Irish), Swedish, Luxembourgian
Carmen Electra - English, German, Irish, distant Dutch
Shannon Elizabeth - Syrian/Lebanese (father) English, Irish, German (mother)
Heather Locklear - English, Scottish, German, possibly distant Lumbee Native American

[Ilma]

Alex Meraz

Purepecha Mexican.

http://ethnicelebs.com/alex-meraz

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/twilightsaga/images/a/aa/Normal_1919.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111117004624

http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/2010/06/28/msg-127774452181-3.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1584165858/twitter_400x400.jpg

Sacheen Littlefeather

Her ancestry is Apache, Yaqui, and Pueblo on her father's side, while her mother is of French, German, and Dutch descent. She claims that her father was from the White Mountain Apache and Yaqui tribes of Arizona and that "Cruz" is her father's recognized tribal name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacheen_Littlefeather

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0d/c9/2a/0dc92aaedac60436e02b61734264bbc2.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3e/6e/7e/3e6e7ea57dcd2a5c0a752403ac7f0a87.jpg

http://lotten.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/968full-sacheen-littlefeather.jpg

Gil Birmingham

American actor of Comanche ancestry.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19400000/Pics-of-Gil-Birmingham-at-Rango-Premiere-in-Westwood-twilight-series-19463057-400-273.jpg

http://www.magweb.com/picts/nm0083655.jpg

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/headshots/gil-birmingham-2.jpg

[Tchek]

Elvis Presley
Johnny Depp? (not sure)
Angelina Jolie
Chuck Norris
Jimi Hendrix

They are not obvious unless I'm aware of it. Native Americans have high cheekbones and give a pseudo-Caucasian look when mixed.

[Nehellenia]

Elvis Presley
Johnny Depp? (not sure)
Angelina Jolie
Chuck Norris
Jimi Hendrix

They are not obvious unless I'm aware of it. Native Americans have high cheekbones and give a pseudo-Caucasian look when mixed.

I'll look them up :P

[Ilma]

Yes I suspect some "trend" to claim having some Native American ancestry among Americans for some reason... Unfortunately we cannot check it for everyone, you can check the sources and Ethnicelebs (which is good site IMO).

For example Angelina Jolie according to Ethnicelebs :

Ethnicity:

*25% Slovak
*25% German
*25% French-Canadian (approximately)
*12.5% Dutch
*12.5% Polish
*1/1024 Huron Native Canadian

http://ethnicelebs.com/angelina-jolie

Lol it's nothing :)

Same for this actor playing a native american guy in Twilight movies, Taylor Lautner, actually this is not proven he has any Native American ancestry.

Taylor Lautner :

Ethnicity: German, Austrian, English, Swiss-German, French, Dutch.

http://ethnicelebs.com/taylor-lautner

[CrazyDaisy]

Most Americans who claim to be part Native are just black or white.

[Argentano]

this thread is pointless becuse you dont now how much NA those people are.I can show you some 23andme results + pics if you are really interested

[Nehellenia]

Not trying to disprove your examples, but
i think a lot of Americans like to claim they are
native, but so few of them are because most people
can't be bothered to research their entire family
tree history and will just go on the family stories
instead.

Eartha Kitt - African-American and European (German or Dutch?)
Rita Coolidge - Cherokee Native American, Scottish, English
Traci Bingham - African-American
Julia Jones - African-American, with some Choctaw Native American and Chickasaw Native American (father) English (mother)
Karina Lombard - Swiss-Russian, Italian (father) Lakota Native American (mother)
Elvis Presley - English, Scottish, along with some German and French, remote Dutch and Danish
''it is not clear if any documentary evidence has been produced that Morning Dove White was of Native American ancestry. At least one census entry for Morning Dove White’s son, John Mansell, describes him as “White”. Several other census listings of Morning’s other children list them as “White” as well. Research has shown that it is unlikely that Morning Dove White was a Cherokee, although it is possible that she had ancestry from another tribe. ''
Johnny Depp - English, along with small amounts of Irish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, Dutch, Flemish Belgian, and German, as well as 3/2048 African
Chuck Norris - English, along with Scottish, Welsh, and German
Jimi Hendrix - African-American ''Jimi is sometimes described as having had Irish, Native American (often specifically Cherokee), Aztec (specifically Nahua), and/or other ancestry. It is not clear if these lineages have been documented/verified. Jimmy’s recent ancestors were black.''
Angelina Jolie - 25% Slovak
*25% German
*25% French-Canadian (approximately)
*12.5% Dutch
*12.5% Polish
*1/1024 Huron Native Canadian

That's enough from me though :P

[Ilma]

this thread is pointless becuse you dont now how much NA those people are.I can show you some 23andme results + pics if you are really interested

I have no point with this thread, just showing some famous people claiming to have Native American ancestry :) up to you to check it with ethnicelebs or others sources and post real mixed Native Americans like 50/50%.

For some who are really mixed (close ancestry) I made the poll by curiosity to see if people think NA features are recessive or dominant or clearly depend on the mix, how distant is the ancestry etc.

Nothing to prove, no hypothesis here ^^


Not trying to disprove your examples, but
i think a lot of Americans like to claim they are
native, but so few of them are because most people
can't be bothered to research their entire family
tree history and will just go on the family stories
instead.
That's enough from me though :P

Because to begin with they are not "my examples" lol I just quote an article about them but you're right Ethnicelebs is far more serious to check it up and I can simply delete the ones who have too distant or non proven NA ancestry, it is better ;)

I actually posted examples from this article to start the thread and encourage people to search by themselves and find more examples.

[Nehellenia]

I have no point with this thread, just showing some famous people claiming to have Native American ancestry :) up to you to check it with ethnicelebs or others sources and post real mixed Native Americans like 50/50%.

For some who are really mixed (close ancestry) I made the poll by curiosity to see if people think NA features are recessive or dominant or clearly depend on the mix, how distant is the ancestry etc.

Nothing to prove, no hypothesis here ^^



Because to begin with they are not "my examples" lol I just quote an article about them but you're right Ethnicelebs is far more serious to check it up and I can simply delete the ones who have too distant or non proven NA ancestry, it is better ;)

I think Central/South American is more dominant than North American.. most of the time.
I knew a Canadian who looked very Native American mixed but his most recent ancestor was from 1700, so it was bizarre he looked anything like that. His ancestor was some Sachem called Madockawando, repeated twice lol
I have really really distant native american ancestry, so does my sisters (obviously).. it's literally like 0.19% or something stupid, from Acadia. Canadians are more inclined to have native ancestry than Americans, but its usually so distant it doesn't matter.

[Tchek]

Angelina Jolie isn't typical anywhere in Europe that's why I expected NA ancestry

[Argentano]

I have no point with this thread, just showing some famous people claiming to have Native American ancestry :) up to you to check it with ethnicelebs or others sources and post real mixed Native Americans like 50/50%.

For some who are really mixed (close ancestry) I made the poll by curiosity to see if people think NA features are recessive or dominant or clearly depend on the mix, how distant is the ancestry etc.

Nothing to prove, no hypothesis here ^^



Because to begin with they are not "my examples" lol I just quote an article about them but you're right Ethnicelebs is far more serious to check it up and I can simply delete the ones who have too distant or non proven NA ancestry, it is better ;)

I actually posted examples from this article to start the thread and encourage people to search by themselves and find more examples.

yeah i notice i sounded aggresive when it was not the intention. My point was that people claiming 1% Cherokee is useless in order to reach a conclusion regarding NA being dominant or not.

[Nehellenia]

Angelina Jolie isn't typical anywhere in Europe that's why I expected NA ancestry

Must be the 37.5% slav in her :P

[Ilma]

yeah i notice i sounded aggresive when it was not the intention. My point was that people claiming 1% Cherokee is useless in order to reach a conclusion regarding NA being dominant or not.

No problem ;) I'm actually deleting the wrong examples after checking them out with more serious sources (genealogy).

It's true and I agree with you, if you have true good examples of clearly mixed (at least 25%) people with NA ancestry feel free to post there :D

[Argentano]

No problem ;) I'm actually deleting the wrong examples after checking them out with more serious sources (genealogy).

It's true and I agree with you, if you have true good examples of clearly mixed (at least 25%) people with NA ancestry feel free to post there :D

i will make a thread in the personal taxonomy so the thread is not for unregistered people.

[Ilma]

Angelina Jolie isn't typical anywhere in Europe that's why I expected NA ancestry

I actually think she looks quite unique even though she's European descent.

My bestfriend during middle school was looking like her, a lot of people told her so. What was funny is that actually she was mixed of French, Norman and Vietnamese ancestry + her and her brother had Russian names :lol: Nothing to do with Angelina Jolie. She had more upturned big eyes though but same color as Angelina's eyes.

[Ranger0075]

Wasn't Val Kilmer partially Native American? Or is it a hoax?

[Freeroostah]

Angelina Jolie according to Ethnicelebs :
*1/1024 Huron Native Canadian

Lol it's nothing :)




It is common in liberal America to claim anything non-white just to become "oppressed person"
Same with the black one drop rule

[Argentano]

No problem ;) I'm actually deleting the wrong examples after checking them out with more serious sources (genealogy).

It's true and I agree with you, if you have true good examples of clearly mixed (at least 25%) people with NA ancestry feel free to post there :D

check it

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?205157-23andme-results-and-pics-of-Latinos-ordered-by-caucasian&p=4286071#post4286071

[Sikeliot]

Lumbee Indians are not Native American, they're Melungeon (a multigenerational mulatto population) but claim Amerindian ancestry because they didn't want to be legally black under segregation but many couldn't pass as white. They picked Amerindian as a compromise.

Also, Eva Longoria should be on here. And Shannon Elizabeth is part Lebanese.

[Sikeliot]

It is common in liberal America to claim anything non-white just to become "oppressed person"
Same with the black one drop rule


I actually have African in me ,but I identify as white. :lol:

[Squall Leonhart]

I always felt many white Americans do this to be patriotic and make themselves feel more American since they obviously know their ancestors were White folk from ol' Yurop. I though it was just a Southern thing but it's everywhere.

[Heather Duval]

Jessica alba is half mexican, not surprised
Miley cyrus claims cherokee also cher
Cher is half armenian and says her american mother has cherokee but her mother looks anglo and british
Do u really believe in them? so none of these options are right

[Squall Leonhart]

Jessica alba is half mexican, not surprised
Miley cyrus claims cherokee also cher
Cher is half armenian and says her american mother has cherokee but her mother looks anglo and british
Do u really believe in them? so none of these options are right

I can buy Alba since Mexicans are mostly Amerindian aside from White minorities but not the latter two.

[Antimage]

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/twilightsaga/images/5/55/Julia-jones-090.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110923234633[/IMG]

http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Julia-Jones.jpg

https://www.picsofcelebrities.com/celebrity/julia-jones/pictures/large/best-pictures-of-julia-jones.jpg

Really good looking
other pics
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/68/a5/41/68a541322957cbe92f7ac0f25298cbc4.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/twilightsaga/images/f/f7/Jacket-julia_jones-punk_rock.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110702225316
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Julia+Jones+People+StyleWatch+Hosts+Night+uLoFXV3W _34l.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Also Lumbee Indians have a specific set of surnames: Goins, Collins, Locklear, Chavis, Oxendine, etc. They are not Amerindian.

[Heather Duval]

Jolie is the only white celebrite posted here that is really "part"
One person on her canadian's side is called indian on census, yes her mother part native was canadian
not american
In the ethnicity celebs site theres a link of the census on her family...

[Heather Duval]

blake lively also claims native ancestry
all of her ancestors are white in the census
same for megan fox

[Antimage]

India Summer, american adult actress. Ancestry: English, German, Irish, Native American

http://image.way2enjoy.com/pic/46/73/14/9/600full-india-summer.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/India_Summer_AEE_2013.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/India_Summer_at_AVN_AEE_2012.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Angelina jolie's canadian mother who is part native canadian
http://starschanges.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/angelina-jolie-family-9-2.jpg
All of jolie's grandparents from her dad's side was born in europe...

[Heather Duval]

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-not-many-people-know-this-about-me-but-i-m-a-natural-blonde-my-hair-went-from-light-angelina-jolie-118-66-19.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/22/00/38A9DC9000000578-3801178-image-a-50_1474500129024.jpg
http://star-fights.com/celebrities/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/young-angelina-jolie-11.jpg

[Heather Duval]

http://www.glasshousesalon.co.uk/images/uploads/journal/angelina90ss.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/19/ba/59/19ba590646cd8501c09232bf398e8e1f.jpg
angelina is not exotic

[jingorex]

This shows the admixture levels found in four targeted American populations - Black, White, Hispanic, Asian:

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c27b77f2c8957fbaa2ca7d5cbea27c95-c

[Dick]

Yes I suspect some "trend" to claim having some Native American ancestry among Americans for some reason... Unfortunately we cannot check it for everyone, you can check the sources and Ethnicelebs (which is good site IMO).

For example Angelina Jolie according to Ethnicelebs :

Ethnicity:

*25% Slovak
*25% German
*25% French-Canadian (approximately)
*12.5% Dutch
*12.5% Polish
*1/1024 Huron Native Canadian

http://ethnicelebs.com/angelina-jolie

Lol it's nothing :)

Same for this actor playing a native american guy in Twilight movies, Taylor Lautner, actually this is not proven he has any Native American ancestry.

Taylor Lautner :

Ethnicity: German, Austrian, English, Swiss-German, French, Dutch.

http://ethnicelebs.com/taylor-lautner

If her french canadian is from Northern ontario and not quebec then it's possible she has native. Anglos didn't really mix with natives.

[jingorex]

Anglos didn't really mix with natives.

doing my part to represent.

[Heather Duval]

If her french canadian is from Northern ontario and not quebec then it's possible she has native. Anglos didn't really mix with natives.

Angelina mother was canadian and this is not possible, is a fact:
Information about Angelina’s 8th great-grandmother, Huron Native Canadian Catherine Anenontha
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/a/l/Linda-R-Malbroughmcmurray/GENE2-0001.html
http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Anenontha_Catheri ne&pid=19840&lng=en
She was from quebac and is documented.

[Heather Duval]

1.CATHERINE2 ANNENNOTAK(NICOLAS1ARENDANKI) was born 1649 in Ancienne-Lorette,Quebec or La Conception, Ontario, and died January 11, 1708/09 in Bastican, Quebec, Canada.She married (1) JEAN DURAND DIT LAFORTUNE September 23, 1662 in Notre Dame de Quebec, Quebec, son of LOUIS DURAND and MADELEINE MALVANDE.He was born 1640 in Doeuil-sur-le-Mignon, St. Onge,Charentes Maritime,France, and died 1671 in St.Jean, I.O.Quebec.She married (2) JACQUES COUTURIER June 28, 1672 in Bastican, Quebec, Canada, son of JEAN COUTURIER and MARIE AUMONT.He was born 1646 in Queneville or Caen, France, and died 1697 in Bastican, Quebec, Canada.She married (3) JEAN LAFORD August 26, 1697.
Notes for CATHERINE ANNENNOTAK:
Catherine Annennontak [Anenontha]or Catherine Hurona full blooded Huron Indian[ some say Indian Princess] is the great-grandmother to Angelique Couturier Malbroue.She is the ancestor to numerous descendants in Canadafrom her marriages to Jean Durand ,Jacques Couturier and Jean Laford.Accounts about her and the history of the Huron Nation can be found in the Relation of the Jesuits, missionary letters, the sacramental record of Quebec and Notarial acts.
Catherine the Huron didn't always have the " Annennontak"name nor was it the Huron name given to her by her parents

[Heather Duval]

Justin bieber, canadian, claims native american ancestry
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/justin-bieber-chided-by-aboriginal-group-for-free-gas-comment-1.1193233
Also Shania twain:
"In a television interview, Shania evidently stated that her biological father was of part Cree Native Canadian/First Nations ancestry. It is not clear if this ancestry has been verified/documented."

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

On the flip side there are many native American people who have significant European ancestry because of generations of mixing with Europeans. That's why you can have someone like Chuck Norris with his blond hair, pale skin, and blue eye. His father was Cherokee. His mother was not. Cherokee are heavily mixed. They intermarried heavily between the late 18th century and early 19th century. The guy who created the Cherokee written language was mixed, for example.

I went to a lecture by a Lakota anthropologist who said if a child is raised Lakota he's seen as Lakota. Regardless of group it appears Native American tribes are very open in accepting people of mixed heritage. An ex-gf of mine was blond, pale, and blue eyed. She was half Lakota. You can't have blond hair and blue eyes unless the genes are found on both sides of the family.

The only Amerindians (in the US and Canada) I can recall from seeing a genetic population study that showed anything close to purity would be the Navajo whose history is more fortunate than that of other Native American groups but I wouldn't be surprised if other groups who lived near them aren't heavily mixed either because they lived in areas that were lightly settled by European descended people prior to the 20th century.

[Heather Duval]

On the flip side there are many native American people who have significant European ancestry because of generations of mixing with Europeans. That's why you can have someone like Chuck Norris with his blond hair, pale skin, and blue eye. His father was Cherokee. His mother was not. Cherokee are heavily mixed. They intermarried heavily between the late 18th century and early 19th century. The guy who created the Cherokee written language was mixed, for example.

I went to a lecture by a Lakota anthropologist who said if a child is raised Lakota he's seen as Lakota. Regardless of group it appears Native American tribes are very open in accepting people of mixed heritage. An ex-gf of mine was blond, pale, and blue eyed. She was half Lakota. You can't have blond hair and blue eyes unless the genes are found on both sides of the family.

The only Amerindians (in the US and Canada) I can recall from seeing a genetic population study that showed anything close to purity would be the Navajo whose history is more fortunate than that of other Native American groups but I wouldn't be surprised if other groups who lived near them aren't heavily mixed either because they lived in areas that were lightly settled by European descended people prior to the 20th century.

" Chuck has stated that both of his parents were of half Irish and half Native American ancestry (“Genetically speaking, I am equal parts Irish and Native American”). Specifically, he has said that his paternal grandfather was an Irish immigrant, his paternal grandmother was of Native American descent (“a full-blooded Cherokee Indian”), his maternal grandfather was of Native American descent (“a Cherokee Indian from Kentucky”), and, finally, that his maternal grandmother was of Irish descent.
However, these statements do not appear to be accurate. Most of Chuck’s recent ancestors, including his paternal grandfather, were U.S.-born. His family tree contains mostly English surnames and English-born distant ancestors, along with a smaller amount of Scottish, Welsh, and German, roots. No Native American ancestry has been documented/verified in any publicly available family trees of Chuck Norris, and all of Chuck’s grandparents are described as “white” on U.S. censuses.
Chuck is the son of Wilma (Scarberry) and Ray D. Norris. Chuck’s patrilineal line traces back to a John Norris, born in the 1500s, in Norfolk Co., England."
http://ethnicelebs.com/chuck-norris

Tell me more about this pseudo irish/indian

[Squall Leonhart]

Whites with Native American ancestry would look mestizo.

[Heather Duval]

chuck lied about being irish and native but this retard are sure for use him as exemple

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

chuck lied about being irish and native but this retard are sure for use him as exemple

Source?

[Heather Duval]

theres no irish on chuck family tree neither native

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

" Chuck has stated that both of his parents were of half Irish and half Native American ancestry (“Genetically speaking, I am equal parts Irish and Native American”). Specifically, he has said that his paternal grandfather was an Irish immigrant, his paternal grandmother was of Native American descent (“a full-blooded Cherokee Indian”), his maternal grandfather was of Native American descent (“a Cherokee Indian from Kentucky”), and, finally, that his maternal grandmother was of Irish descent.
However, these statements do not appear to be accurate. Most of Chuck’s recent ancestors, including his paternal grandfather, were U.S.-born. His family tree contains mostly English surnames and English-born distant ancestors, along with a smaller amount of Scottish, Welsh, and German, roots. No Native American ancestry has been documented/verified in any publicly available family trees of Chuck Norris, and all of Chuck’s grandparents are described as “white” on U.S. censuses.
Chuck is the son of Wilma (Scarberry) and Ray D. Norris. Chuck’s patrilineal line traces back to a John Norris, born in the 1500s, in Norfolk Co., England."
http://ethnicelebs.com/chuck-norris

Tell me more about this pseudo irish/indian

Oh... Ethnic celebs... what a great source... Do you think all Cherokee have surnames like Red Fox or some shit like that? Most have surnames no different than non-Natives because of intermarriages and typically of British origin since those were the people they were surrounded by.

[Heather Duval]

Source?

http://ethnicelebs.com/chuck-norris
theres a infor about of his ancestors and family tree
even the link of usa census
no irish or native, he is english descent
he lied about " my grandfather was irish" census link shows all of his grandparents are american born with ENGLISH surnames/roots and also white

[Antimage]

http://i.imgur.com/dfYUnFl.jpg

[Antimage]

http://i.imgur.com/aljzJ4G.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Oh... Ethnic celebs... what a great source... Do you think all Cherokee have surnames like Red Fox or some shit like that? Most have surnames no different than non-Natives because of intermarriages and typically of British origin since those were the people they were surrounded by.

yes it is a great source
top 3 liars
1 he told he has irish grandparents
2 according to usa census links that site posted all of his grandpa are american born
3 no irish found on his family tree

if he lied about being irish, he lied about native too
usa census from 40s 60s are avaliable on internet, u can found your ancestors

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Whites with Native American ancestry would look mestizo.

I'll be sure to tell my ex-gf whose mother is a documented member of the Lakota and certainly looks the part that expectation. Actually, the Native Americans (at the least from the Plains) look like large Mestizos. It's already established they're very mixed (roughly half and half).

[Profileid]

Most of white Americans claim Cherokee ancestry for some reason:noidea:


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187577-Why-Do-So-Many-Americans-Think-They-Have-Cherokee-Blood

A lot of old stock Americans,meaning the ones that have been here since before the Revolution, have some native ancestry. Not even these partial-beaners OP is listing,but Americans that are considered completely white

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

yes it is a great source
top 3 liars
1 he told he has irish grandparents
2 according to usa census links that site posted all of his grandpa are american born
3 no irish found on his family tree

if he lied about being irish, he lied about native too
usa census from 40s 60s are avaliable on internet, u can found your ancestors

And did you do that? Or are you assuming a random person on the internet did so and competently? When an American says hes part Irish it doesn't necessarily mean that the ancestor was born in Ireland. It can mean generations of Irish-Americans. That's how we speak of ancestry here. No one says "I'm part Irish but going back 4 generations in the US." No one says that. They simply say they're part Irish.

Um, wtf? It won't say someone is Irish-American on a US census and many of the Irish have English surnames because they were changed by English administrators, or passed into the Irish population when English settlers and soldiers in Ireland during the 16th century ran off and joined the Irish and then there is the the old Anglo-Irish population who didn't convert from the Catholic faith. Think of Gerry Adams whose family had a long history with the IRA or the director Kevin Smith.

[Heather Duval]

Um, wtf? It won't say someone is Irish-American on a US census and many of the Irish have English surnames because they were changed by English administrators, or passed into the Irish population when English settlers and soldiers in Ireland during the 16th century joined the Irish and then there is the the old Anglo-Irish who didn't convert from the Catholic faith (think of Gerry Adams whose family had a long history with the IRA or the director Kevin Smith).

And did you do that? Or are you assuming a random person on the internet did so and competently?

cool story nigger but chuck has said shits like "my grandparents was born in ireland and the others are native american"
according to usa census links that u can see in that site all of his grandparents are american born and theres no native found too
while they found jolie's canatian first nation on census
admit that chuck is a liar
that guy is english wannabe irish half cherokee

[Carlito's Way]

If you check out ethnicelebs and look up these actresses.. a lot of them are in fact white according to their family tree tracing.
Beyonce Knowles - African-American, Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish


Creoles from Louisiana have Native American ancestry, they are triracials, but their main ancestries are European and African

[Carlito's Way]

Lumbee Indians are not Native American, they're Melungeon (a multigenerational mulatto population) but claim Amerindian ancestry because they didn't want to be legally black under segregation but many couldn't pass as white. They picked Amerindian as a compromise.

Also, Eva Longoria should be on here. And Shannon Elizabeth is part Lebanese.

true, I saw a DNA result of a suppose "Indian" who happened to be Cherokee and Lumbee, the poor girl came out with 0% Native American, and had 80% European and the rest African, her username on Instagram had the word "Indian", they kept telling her the native didnt show up because the populations tested there were coming from central and south america :picard1::picard1:

[Dandelion]

Most Americans who claim to be part Native are just black or white.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTnmcIOGwCA

[Squall Leonhart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTnmcIOGwCA
What about 1/9000 Cherokee?

[RMuller]

Lynda Carter is half Mexican/Anglo American

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8QwULa7hpDTarhlFe2rdUoB01A0DJT 14dxpqk5NPL6H4Mo52reQ
http://cultsirens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/lynda-carter-21.jpg


With her Mexican-American mother
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/79/ea/78/79ea785a7f35828fcb6715e8324bdc0e.jpg

[JohnSmith]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/53/93/88/53938854e0a565ac16965cd720bc335f.jpg

[RMuller]

Actress Catherine Bach is half Mexican/German

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMCqEY8rx92o3-WGx39TbNpeUWAcDYSD7Q0jK-3FQUFcBIES0n
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CaIy0rvLVXk/VG0TiolU_NI/AAAAAAAATdo/hZnS7Q8o1PM/s1600/FORVG00Z.jpg



Selena Gomez is half Mexican/ White American
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/8BiSFPpUw1lpXiKlTYDkbA--/aD01NDc7dz03NDY7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/hello_giggles_454/f6b19eccf8e67cf39c07f1fce247f6c7


Nicole Richie is 1/4 Mexican
http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/richie-alberta/nicole-richie-alberta-ferretti-13.jpg


Hilary Swank is 1/4 Mexican
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCgM3C9d1NOlc3QiTLUB30SToGFBTPv Xe6Xrp2KOkmgfDgT5x7

[RMuller]

Actress Stacy Dash is half Mexican/ African-American

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSslxeILWesKlBto5bX3byaB9T5vbSF5 xcinKWU6TpdN12MCvg-


MMA thugs Nick and Nate Diaz are half Mexican/White American

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mj7DUuk_2pE/hqdefault.jpg


MMA fighter Josh Thomson is half Mexican/White

http://roughcopy.com/images/fighters/josh-thomson-profile.jpg
http://prommanow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Diaz-Thomson.jpg



MMA fighter Carlos Condit is half Mexican/white
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQaEFsQlZXBAFGZTl6E-3TKjSloBv70Qz7fVLuc4dVC19H2AbMv


MMA great Cain Velasquez
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgq2K4Rluo0vgSxssmU9Lh-6gwWsbtSljd7Hv2RgjeqYrONDGg



Nevada senator Catherine Cortez Masto is half Mexican/Italian ,not a fake like Elizabeth Warren

https://res.cloudinary.com/crowdpac/image/upload/d_avatar_f/v1/candidates/cand10361941.jpg


Eva Longoria
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/76/3b/d7/763bd78d4caf8acdcb4a2cdb38b6db90.jpg

[Sikeliot]

http://media.ellentv.com/2014/03/06/george-lopez-blog-1200x630.jpg

[RMuller]

Mexican-American actor Danny Trejo

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13767661_1874165799478905_1360760542_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTI5OTM4OTY3NTMzMjY2Njk0Mw%3D%3D.2
https://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/danny-trejo-6.jpg
http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/h632/aUBFe6YveVufucbXza1lXORw4VX.jpg

[Charles Bronson]

Harlekin Renidere has 20% Autosomal Native American DNA.

[Grace O'Malley]

If you check out ethnicelebs and look up these actresses.. a lot of them are in fact white according to their family tree tracing.
Only Jessica Alba and Heather Locklear have native american ancestry xD

Jessica Alba - Mexican, including Spanish, Indigenous Mexican/Mayan, and distant Sephardi Jewish (father) Danish, Welsh, German, English, Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, French (mother)
Jessica Biel - Hungarian Jewish (great-grandfather), Danish (great-grandmother), English, along with German, Swiss-German, remote Swedish and French
Beyonce Knowles - African-American, Louisiana Creole, including African, French, Acadian/French-Canadian, as well as distant Irish and Spanish
Cameron Diaz - Cuban (Spanish) (father) English, Scottish, Irish, German (mother)
Demi Moore - English, Scottish
Ava Gardner - English
Farrah Fawcett - English, Welsh and Scottish
Fergie - German, Scottish, English, Irish, Northern Irish (Scots-Irish), Swedish, Luxembourgian
Carmen Electra - English, German, Irish, distant Dutch
Shannon Elizabeth - Syrian/Lebanese (father) English, Irish, German (mother)
Heather Locklear - English, Scottish, German, possibly distant Lumbee Native American

Even with Heather Locklear it would be miniscule and if she has Lumbee ancestry she also has African-American because most Lumbees tested are majority European and African American and quite a small amount of Native American or none at all. Anyway there is controversy whether the Lumbee were ever actually a NA tribe.

http://www.geocurrents.info/geopolitics/tribes-and-nations-the-lumbees-frus trated-quest-for-federal-recognition

The Lumbee have long claimed descent from the Lost Colony via their oral history. The Lumbee DNA Project shows significantly less Native American ancestry than would be expected with 96% European or African Y chromosomal DNA. The Melungeons, long held to be mixed European, African and Native show only one ancestral family with Native DNA. Clearly more testing would be advantageous in all of these projects.

http://www.dnaexplain.com/publications/pdfs/wherehavealltheindiansgone8-30-09joggv3.2.pdf

[Grace O'Malley]

On the flip side there are many native American people who have significant European ancestry because of generations of mixing with Europeans. That's why you can have someone like Chuck Norris with his blond hair, pale skin, and blue eye. His father was Cherokee. His mother was not. Cherokee are heavily mixed. They intermarried heavily between the late 18th century and early 19th century. The guy who created the Cherokee written language was mixed, for example.

I went to a lecture by a Lakota anthropologist who said if a child is raised Lakota he's seen as Lakota. Regardless of group it appears Native American tribes are very open in accepting people of mixed heritage. An ex-gf of mine was blond, pale, and blue eyed. She was half Lakota. You can't have blond hair and blue eyes unless the genes are found on both sides of the family.

The only Amerindians (in the US and Canada) I can recall from seeing a genetic population study that showed anything close to purity would be the Navajo whose history is more fortunate than that of other Native American groups but I wouldn't be surprised if other groups who lived near them aren't heavily mixed either because they lived in areas that were lightly settled by European descended people prior to the 20th century.

Chuck Norris actually has no Native American.

[Nehellenia]

Even with Heather Locklear it would be miniscule and if she has Lumbee ancestry she also has African-American because most Lumbees tested are majority European and African American and quite a small amount of Native American or none at all. Anyway there is controversy whether the Lumbee were ever actually a NA tribe.

http://www.geocurrents.info/geopolitics/tribes-and-nations-the-lumbees-frus trated-quest-for-federal-recognition

The Lumbee have long claimed descent from the Lost Colony via their oral history. The Lumbee DNA Project shows significantly less Native American ancestry than would be expected with 96% European or African Y chromosomal DNA. The Melungeons, long held to be mixed European, African and Native show only one ancestral family with Native DNA. Clearly more testing would be advantageous in all of these projects.

http://www.dnaexplain.com/publications/pdfs/wherehavealltheindiansgone8-30-09joggv3.2.pdf

I wasn't aware much about the Lumbees, thanks for pointing that out..
Sort of reminds me of the 'Lia Pootah' of Tasmania trying to claim aboriginal descent with very little records or genetic proof.

[Grace O'Malley]

Oh... Ethnic celebs... what a great source... Do you think all Cherokee have surnames like Red Fox or some shit like that? Most have surnames no different than non-Natives because of intermarriages and typically of British origin since those were the people they were surrounded by.

They check the Census so I do think they are as accurate as most sites.

[Grace O'Malley]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187577-Why-Do-So-Many-Americans-Think-They-Have-Cherokee-Blood

A lot of old stock Americans,meaning the ones that have been here since before the Revolution, have some native ancestry. Not even these partial-beaners OP is listing,but Americans that are considered completely white

Interestingly from my perspective anyway is that a lot of people that claim NA actually have small amounts of SSA and no NA. Some Americans do have very small amounts of NA but a lot more have SSA instead of the NA. Just surmising here but I think it's similar to what Sikeliot posted about the Lumbee e.g. there were Americans in the past that claimed NA to hide some African ancestry. If anyone has looked at the threads on 23andMe it is almost a joke with the amount of people wanting to know what happened to their NA? They are sure the test isn't accurate. :) There are numerous threads on the topic.

Anyway it is just not possible that there would be so much NA in Americans. The NAs were not that numerous to begin with and NA people in the past were treated like dirt and white Americans weren't all hopping into bed with them. I'm not even sure how NA people are treated in the US these days but there is a bit or romantic revisionism going on with a lot of people.

The vast majority of Americans don't have any NA blood.

[Grace O'Malley]

And did you do that? Or are you assuming a random person on the internet did so and competently? When an American says hes part Irish it doesn't necessarily mean that the ancestor was born in Ireland. It can mean generations of Irish-Americans. That's how we speak of ancestry here. No one says "I'm part Irish but going back 4 generations in the US." No one says that. They simply say they're part Irish.

Um, wtf? It won't say someone is Irish-American on a US census and many of the Irish have English surnames because they were changed by English administrators, or passed into the Irish population when English settlers and soldiers in Ireland during the 16th century ran off and joined the Irish and then there is the the old Anglo-Irish population who didn't convert from the Catholic faith. Think of Gerry Adams whose family had a long history with the IRA or the director Kevin Smith.

Gerry Adams has Scots Planter ancestry and Smith could be from McGowan so could quite possibly be Irish. Usually people can research these names though. A lot of names that people don't thing of as Irish are such as Collins, Ford, Butler etc but with research people can trace them. I have to agree with Rainbowmimi here and Chuck doesn't have Irish ancestry just like Megan Fox. I don't necessarily think people are lying but just mistaken. A lot of Americans do think that if they are Scots-Irish they are Irish. A lot of them don't know the history.

I do agree to a certain extent that names can be deceiving if people aren't aware of their history.

[Grace O'Malley]

I wasn't aware much about the Lumbees, thanks for pointing that out..
Sort of reminds me of the 'Lia Pootah' of Tasmania trying to claim aboriginal descent with very little records or genetic proof.

Yes it's an interesting case history. The Lumbee identify as NA but genetically they are tri-racial and a lot of them don't even have NA blood.

[Heather Duval]

Gerry Adams has Scots Planter ancestry and Smith could be from McGowan so could quite possibly be Irish. Usually people can research these names though. A lot of names that people don't thing of as Irish are such as Collins, Ford, Butler etc but with research people can trace them. I have to agree with Rainbowmimi here and Chuck doesn't have Irish ancestry just like Megan Fox. I don't necessarily think people are lying but just mistaken. A lot of Americans do think that if they are Scots-Irish they are Irish. A lot of them don't know the history.

I do agree to a certain extent that names can be deceiving if people aren't aware of their history.
In this article from 2004 Chuck has started that some of his grandparents was born in ireland
http://www.worldcat.org/wcpa/servlet/org.oclc.lac.ui.DialABookServlet?oclcnum=56211105
But census research says all of his grandparents are american born, so the same way he lied about being irish he did about being half native american

[Heather Duval]

I doubt too that megan fox has native ancestry, she looks british even with fake tan
mostly on her original look before plastic
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8momY3CecCk/TlmmBt8RyMI/AAAAAAAAEdM/3YXxCijcajc/s1600/megan+fox+biography.jpg

[Heather Duval]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/53/93/88/53938854e0a565ac16965cd720bc335f.jpg
Cher? LOL
If u think Cher has indigenous you are really stupid as most people from this forum.
Her father was armenian, this is cher younger
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b7/68/e3/b768e3b2eff801dad30adf879eda9e2e.jpg

she looks fully armenian

She claims that her american mother has cherokee ancestry but her mother looks what she is: British
http://thedwarf.com.au/img/chers-mother-makes-chart-debut-aged-86.jpg
https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_460w/Boston/2011-2020/2013/05/02/BostonGlobe.com/ReceivedContent/Images/dmlc1-001.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MCc-yAOhj4s/hqdefault.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

Cher? LOL
If u think Cher has indigenous you are really stupid as most people from this forum.
Her father was armenian, this is cher younger
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b7/68/e3/b768e3b2eff801dad30adf879eda9e2e.jpg

she looks fully armenian

She claims that her american mother has cherokee ancestry but her mother looks what she is: British
http://thedwarf.com.au/img/chers-mother-makes-chart-debut-aged-86.jpg
https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_460w/Boston/2011-2020/2013/05/02/BostonGlobe.com/ReceivedContent/Images/dmlc1-001.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MCc-yAOhj4s/hqdefault.jpg

Yes I know that Chuck, Cher and Megan don't have NA. The whole thing strikes me as odd. I just think people might find it exotic and also makes them appear non-mainstream even though they are mainstream. The thing is NAs were very discriminated against so it would have been tough to be NA even in the mid-21st century. I think cowboy and Indian films started the romanticisation of NAs but I'm not really sure what it is all about. How many white Americans marry significantly NA people? All the people that claim it look fully white so it's not like they "walk the walk" so to speak. I've often wondered how real NAs feel about all these white movie stars claiming NA.

[Heather Duval]

Yes I know that Chuck, Cher and Megan don't have NA. The whole thing strikes me as odd. I just think people might find it exotic and also makes them appear non-mainstream even though they are mainstream. The thing is NAs were very discriminated against so it would have been tough to be NA even in the mid-21st century. I think cowboy and Indian films started the romanticisation of NAs but I'm not really sure what it is all about. How many white Americans marry significantly NA people? All the people that claim it look fully white so it's not like they "walk the walk" so to speak. I've often wondered how real NAs feel about all these white movie stars claiming NA.
Many articles started that white people in the colonial periods was against natives and feel like ewww if someone claims to be part of them, racism was real and also the laws against inter racial marriage in some states

[Grace O'Malley]

Here's a couple of real NAs but they are both Canadian.

Michael Greyeyes

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cc/e2/bc/cce2bcb9bf79f8b91a3ab41ac5a08bca.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cf/51/21/cf512147b1b5a286f8daea77e6f5a280.jpg

My favourite from Last of the Mohicans Eric Schweig although he is Inuit.

https://ericschweigfan.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/es-bwots.jpg
https://ericschweigfan.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/epenow-before-the-attack.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Britney Spears never claimed to be native american, she has sense and is probably smarter than average americans.
Father British, irish, distant french
Mother Maltese(italian), English and distant french
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/britney-parents.jpg

[Heather Duval]

and according to research her family is living in usa since 1600s
she could easily says many times " im native american"

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

In this article from 2004 Chuck has started that some of his grandparents was born in ireland
http://www.worldcat.org/wcpa/servlet/org.oclc.lac.ui.DialABookServlet?oclcnum=56211105
But census research says all of his grandparents are american born, so the same way he lied about being irish he did about being half native american

It's not an article. It's an excerpt from his autobiography. Once again, being born in America doesn't say anything about whether you're of Irish, English, etc. ancestry. He may be wrong about his grandfather being born in Ireland but that doesn't mean he's wrong about him being of Irish ancestry.

I get little peeved when people start accusing others of lying based on flimsy evidence.

I just remembered the infamous Henry Hill's father (Goodfellas is based on the life of his son) was Irish. Irish-American, I should say. I don't want to confuse anyone.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Britney Spears never claimed to be native american, she has sense and is probably smarter than average americans.
Father British, irish, distant french
Mother Maltese(italian), English and distant french
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/britney-parents.jpg

I trust that when Britney Spears says she's a woman that she is actually a woman.

[Heather Duval]

It's not an article. It's an excerpt from his autobiography. Once again, being born in America doesn't say anything about whether you're of Irish, English, etc. ancestry. He may be wrong about his grandfather being born in Ireland but that doesn't mean he's wrong about him being of Irish ancestry.

I get little peeved when people start accusing others of lying based on flimsy evidence.

I just remembered the infamous Henry Hill's father (Goodfellas is based on the life of his son) was Irish. Irish-American, I should say. I don't want to confuse anyone.

"His family tree contains mostly English surnames and English-born distant ancestors, along with a smaller amount of Scottish, Welsh, and German, roots. No Native American ancestry has been documented/verified in any publicly available family trees of Chuck Norris, and all of Chuck’s grandparents are described as “white” on U.S. censuses.

Chuck is the son of Wilma (Scarberry) and Ray D. Norris. Chuck’s patrilineal line traces back to a John Norris, born in the 1500s, in Norfolk Co., England.

Chuck’s paternal grandparents were James Henry Norris (the son of William/Simon Norris and Eliza Ann) and Ella “Ellie” May Tinker (the daughter of James Asbury Tinker and Clarisa “Clara” Ann Cofer). William was the son of Samuel Norris and Melissa Curtis. Chuck’s great-grandfather James Tinker was the son of Jesse Tinker and Margaret McArthur.

Chuck’s maternal grandparents were John Porter Scarberry (the son of an unnamed father and Martha Scarberry) and Ada Agnes Hargrove (the daughter of John “Jack” P. Hargrove and Alice or Jemimie). Martha was the daughter of Richard E. Scarbrough and Eliza Jane Smith."


Chuck’s father, Ray D. Norris, on the 1930 U.S. Census –
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC7M-8QB
Chuck’s paternal grandmother, Ella “Ellie” May Tinker, on the 1880 U.S. Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6P5-KM3
Chuck’s maternal grandparents, John Porter Scarberry and Ada Agnes
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MN1K-D5T
Genealogy of Chuck’s maternal grandfather, John Porter Scarberry (focusing on his own father’s side)
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bobhopkins0&id=I10809
Chuck’s maternal great-grandparents, John P. “Jack” Hargrove and Alice, on the 1910 U.S. Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ML71-MV9

Sources: Genealogies of Chuck Norris
http://www.wargs.com/other/norris.html
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=14x24&id=I0001
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adam993&id=I431439

[Heather Duval]

I trust that when Britney Spears says she's a woman that she is actually a woman.

At least she didnt lie about her ancestors

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

They check the Census so I do think they are as accurate as most sites.

It's not a serious enough website for me to trust that they do an adequate job of it.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

At least she didnt lie about her ancestors

Unfortunately you can't relate to her honesty.

[Heather Duval]

It's not a serious enough website for me to trust that they do an adequate job of it.

Nigga, the government avaliable the usa census on INTERNET
https://www.census.gov/1940census/
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2442
Search your family here

[Heather Duval]

Unfortunately you can't relate to her honesty.

being honest is saying " im native american and my grandparents were irish born in ireland, even tho census says they were all american born"? no thanks

[Heather Duval]

Genealogies of Britney Spears

Ancestry of Britney Spears
1 Britney Jean Spears, b. McComb Co., Miss., 2 Dec. 1981
PARENTS
2 James Parnall Spears, b. ... 1952
m.
3 Lynn Bridges, b. ... 1956
GRANDPARENTS
4 June Austin Spears, b. ... 1930
m.
5 Emma Jean Forbes, b. Pike Co., Miss., 2 Aug. 1934, d. McComb Co., Miss., 29 May 1966 [SSDI 438-46-0927]
6 Barney O'Field Bridges, b. Saint Helena, La., 16 Nov. 1919, d. Kentwood, La., 13 Apr. 1978 [SSDI 439-16-1818]
m. Hendon 16 March 1945
7 Lilian Irene Portell, b. 32 Barkham Road, Tottenham UD, Middlesex, 12 Nov. 1924 [entry no. 63], d. Kentwood, La., 30 May 1993 [SSDI 439-76-7337]
GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
8 June Becker Spears, b. Pike Co., Miss., 3 Dec. 1896, d. Osyka, Miss., 26 Apr. 1986 [SSDI 450-16-3700; WWI draft registration card]
m. ... 1928
9 Nova Gill, b. Sunny Hill, Tangipahoa Parish, La., 6 May 1913, d. St. Helena Parish Hospital, Greensburg, Miss., 18 Jan. 1997 [SSDI 461-12-8837]
10 William Nelson Forbes, b. ... , Miss., 15 Apr. 1905, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... Apr. 1973 [SSDI 427-14-8256]
m.
11 Lexie May Thompson, b. McComb Co., Miss., 11 Sept. 1915, d. McComb Co., Miss., 12 Dec. 2001 [SSDI 426-22-2775]
12 Joel Menton Bridges, b. ... , La., 1 Nov. 1888, d. Tangipahoa Parish, La., 2 June 1961
m. St. Helena Parish, La., 25 Nov. 1906
13 Addie Williams, b. ... , Miss., 26 July 1886, d. Tangipahoa Parish, La., 18 Apr. 1971 [SSDI 439-64-7204]
14 George Anthony Portelli (later Portell), b. Portsea Island, Portsmouth, 30 July 1898 [entry no. 448], d. ...
m. St. John's Church, Tottenham, Middlesex, 29 July 1923 [entry no. 483]
15 Lilian Esther Lewis, b. 10 Wellington Row, Bethnal Green, 14 Dec. 1897 [entry no. 267], d. ...
GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
16 Pascal Greene Spears, b. Osyka, Pike Co., Miss., 24 June 1862, d. Osyka, Pike Co., Miss., 27 April 1913
m. ... [ca. 1883]
17 Mary Pauline Bridges, b. ... , La., 23 Feb. 1866, d. ... 2 June 1950
18 Monroe Gill, b. ... , La., ... [ca. 1883], d. ...
m.
19 Effie Strahan, b. ... , La., ... [ca. 1886], d. ...
20 William Nelson Forbes, b. Marion, Miss., 19 Aug. 1861, d. ... 1 Feb. 1905
m.
21 Kiturah Leona Ball, b. ... 15 May 1866, d. ... 7 March 1925
22 Ernest Fulton Thompson, b. Goss, Miss., 28 Aug. 1896, d. Tylertown, Miss., 8 Jan. 1955
m. ... 18 Nov. 1914
23 Bertha Magee, b. Walthall Co., Miss., 27 Nov. 1898, d. Tylertown, Miss., ... May 1985 [SSDI 426-70-2187]
24 James Jackson Bridges, b. St. Helena Parish, La., 10 Jan. 1855, d. St. Helena Parish, La., 23 June 1931
m. St. Helena Parish, La., 23 Dec. 1876
25 Mary Josephine Phillips, b. Amite Co., Miss., 30 Nov. 1857, d. St. Helena Parish, La., 6 Feb. 1950
26 Marshall E ... Williams, b. ... , Miss., ... Sept. 1857, d. ...
m.
27 Missouri E ... Wall, b. ... , Miss., ... Jan. 1863, d. ...
28 Edward Richard Portelli, b. ... , Malta, ... [ca. 1873], d. ...
m. St. Savior's, Forest Gate, West Ham, co. Essex, 29 Jan. 1896 [entry no. 422],
29 Alice Taylor, b. ... [ca. 1867], d. ...
30 James Lewis, b. 8 Old Nichol St., Bethnal Green, 22 Sept. 1872 [entry no. 312], d. ...
m. St. Ann's Church, Bethnal Green, 15 June 1897 [entry no. 67]
31 Esther Moss, b. Sewardstone St., Waltham Abbey, Essex, 17 July 1873 [entry no. 35], d. ...
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
32 Joshua J ... Spears, b. ... , La., ... [ca. 1819], d. ... [living 1880]
m.
33 Bethany ... , b. ... , Miss., ... [ca. 1819], d. ... [living 1880]
34 (=48) William Lee Bridges, b. ... 22 Dec. 1829, d. ... 14 Nov. 1890
m. ... 11 June 1850
35 (=49) Pauline Ann Travis, b. ... 1833, d. ...
38 Neal Strahan, b. ... , Miss., ... June 1838, d. ...
m.
39 Permelia Crow, b. ... , d. ... [by 1900]
40 Nelson Columbus Forbes, b. ... , S. C., 13 Feb. 1832, d. ... 17 June 1909
m. Marion, Mass., 4 Dec. 1860
41 Bethany Cordelia ("Betty") Fortenberry, b. ... 24 Dec. 1839, d. ... 18 Oct. 1896
42 Needham Luke Ball, b. ... 1837, d. ... 1913
m.
43 Cynthia Bracey, b. ... 1839, d. ... 1919
44 Isaac/Irvin Leon Thompson, b. ... 11 Dec. 1876, d. ...
m.
45 Lillian Bennett, b. ... , d. ...
46 Jacob Ira Magee, b. Walthall Co., Miss., 26 July 1873, d. Darbun, Miss., 21 Oct. 1940
m. ... , Miss., ... 1892
47 Laura Dunaway, b. ... 24 Aug. 1874, d. Darbun, Miss., 10 Feb. 1954
48 - 49 Same as 34 - 35, above.
50 Madison Monroe Phillips, b. St. Helena Parish, La., 24 Apr. 1836, d. St. Helena Parish, La., 11 Feb. 1909
m. Amite Co., Miss., 13 Nov. 1856
51 Nancy Lavissa Newman, b. Amite Co., Miss., 18 Nov. 1840, d. ... 4 Sept. 1876
56 Antonio Portelli, b. ... , d. ...
m.
57 ... , b. ... , d. ...
58 George Taylor, b. ... , d. ...
m.
59 ... , b. ... , d. ...
60 James Lewis, fishmonger, b. ... [ca. 1849], d. ...
m. Parish church of St. Jude, Bethnal Green, 25 Dec. 1870 [entry no. 96]
61 Sarah Isaacs, b. ... [ca. 1850], d. ...
62 Henry Moss, gun maker, b. Waltham Abbey 23 Aug. 1841 [entry no. 369], d. ...
m. Parish church of Christchurch, Spitalfields, 15 March 1868 [entry no. 215]
63 Ann Bond, b. ... [ca. 1849], d. ...
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
68 (=96) Thomas William Bridges, b. ... , S. C., ... [ca. 1790], d. ... [ca. 1840]
m. Amite Co., Miss., 5 Nov. 1817
69 (=97) Elizabeth Jackson, b. ... , S. C., 4 June 1800, d. St. Helena Parish, La., 5 June 1885
70 (=98) William Barrett Travis, b. Orangeburg, S. C., ... 1794, d. St. Helena Parish, La., ... 1869
m. St. Helena Parish, La., 8 Oct. 1817
71 (=99) Nancy Elizabeth Hurst, b. ... [ca. 1799], d. ... 1 Nov. 1842
80 William W ... Forbes, b. ... , S. C., 29 June 1793, d. Sandy Hood., Miss., 18 Nov. 1857
m.
81 Emily ... , b. ... , d. ...
82 Hugh P ... Fortenberry, b. ... , S. C., ... 1811, d. ...
m.
83 Obedience Lee, b. ... 1817, d. ...
84 Jesse Warren Ball, b. Midway, Ga., 15 Nov. 1808, d. ... 4 Jan. 1880
m. Marion Co., Miss., 14 Oct. 1830
85 Elizabeth Rose Conerly, b. Duplin Co., N. C., 5 Apr. 1814, d. ... 17 May 1838
88 Leonidas ("Lonnie") Thompson, b. ... , Miss., 20 July 1855, d. Bastrop, Morehouse Parish, La., 7 March 1950
m. ... 10 Sept. 1873
89 Zylpha Bass, b. Marion Co., Miss., 2 Feb. 1858, d. Bastrop, Morehouse Parish, La., 27 Dec. 1945
92 Daniel Ira Magee, b. Marion Co., Miss., 18 Feb. 1845, d. Darbun, Miss., 7 June 1888
m. Walthall Co., Miss., ... 1870
93 Mary Isabell Boone, b. Pike Co., Miss., 4 Apr. 1854, d. Darbun, Miss., 19 June 1923
94 William Francis Dunaway, b. ... 17 Nov. 1849, d. ... 22 Oct. 1930
m. ... 14 Jan. 1871
95 Mary Sophronia Mulford, b. ... 1 Nov. 1849, d. ... 12 Dec. 1935
96 - 99 Same as 68 - 71, above.
100 Thomas Phillips, b. St. Helena Parish, La., ... [ca. 1811], d. ... 11 Feb. 1893
m. ... 1835
101 Emily Day, b. St. Helena Parish, La., 15 Nov. 1815, d. ... 15 Jan. 1881
102 Jonathan Newman, b. ... , S.C., ... [ca. 1807], d. ... [ca. 1880]
m. Amite Co., Miss., 10 June 1830
103 Elizabeth Mixon, b. Amite Co., Miss., 9 Sept. 1812, d. Amite Co., Miss., 15 Apr. 1899
120 Joseph Lewis, weaver, b. ... , d. ...
m.
121 ... , b. ... , d. ...
122 James Isaacs, fishmonger, b. ... , d. ...
m.
123 ... , b. ... , d. ...
124 Thomas Moss, sawyer, b. ... , d. ...
[non-marital liaison]
125 Esther Culver, b. ... , d. ...
126 Henry Bond, licensed victualler, b. ... , d. ...
m.
127 ... , b. ... , d. ...
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
136 (=192) James Bridges, b. ... , d. ...
m.
137 (=193) Jane Strickland, b. ... , d. ...
138 (=194) James Jackson, b. Barnwell Co., S. C., ... [ca. 1760], d. St. Helena Parish, La., 29 Aug. 1832
m.
139 (=195) Ann Lee, b. Union Co., S. C., ... [ca. 1763], d. St. Helena Parish, La., ... Dec. 1834
140 (=196) John D ... Travis, b. Travers Creek, Alamance Co., N. C., ... 1761, d. Amite Co., Miss., ... 1840
m. ... 1786
141 (=197) Isabelle Graham, b. ... 1768, d. ... 1830
142 (=198) Henry Hurst, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... [ca. 1763], d. St. Helena Parish, La., 5 Nov. 1825
m. Northumberland Co., Va., 4 Jan. 1796
143 (=199) Judith Hudnall, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... [ca. 1770], d. [at sea enroute from Charleston, S. C., to Springfield, La., ... 1813]
164 (=708) Isaac Fortenberry, b. Lancaster Co., S. C., ... [ca. 1775], d. Walthall Co., Miss., ... Nov. 1845
m. ... 1796
165 (=709) Bethany Cordelia Magee, b. ... , S. C., ... 1783, d. Marion Co., S. C., ... 1846
166 Jesse Lee, b. Bladen Co., N. C., 10 Nov. 1768, d. Marion Co., Miss., 6 Sept. 1859
m. ... , N. C., 20 Dec. 1797
167 Nancy Lewis, b. Robeson Co., N. C., 12 Feb. 1778, d. Pike Co., Miss., ... 1838
168 Sampson Edward Ball, b. Midway, Ga., ... Nov. 1779, d. St. Francisville, East Baton Rouge Parish, La., 1 Sept. 1829
m. Midway, Ga., 16 Nov. 1800
169 Elizabeth Warren, b. Liberty Co., Ga., 25 Jan. 1783, d. Marion Co., Miss., 2 Dec. 1816
170 Owen Conerly, b. Duplin Co., N. C., 27 Aug. 1777, d. China Grove, Miss., 18 Dec. 1848
m. Fayetteville, N. C., 14 Jan. 1808
171 Mary Elizabeth Wilkinson, b. Duplin Co., N. C., 18 Dec. 1791, d. Homesville, Miss., 24 Aug. 1860
176 John Thompson, b. ... , Miss., 1 Feb. 1827, d. ... 30 Dec. 1912
m.
177 Christian Minerva Fortenberry, b. ... , Miss., 9 Apr. 1831, d. ... , Miss., 17 Nov. 1909
178 F ... Ananias Bass, b. Burke Co., Ga., ... 1812, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... 1879
m. ... 5 March 1837
179 Elizabeth Brown, b. ... , N. C., 18 May 1819, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... 1907
184 John Magee, b. ... , N. C., ... [ca. 1795], d. ...
m. Marion Co., Miss., 9 Feb. 1840
185 Anna Eliza Tynes, b. Marion Co., Ga., 2 June 1806, d. ...
186 Jacob Boone, b. Pike Co., Miss., 12 Dec. 1822, d. Walthall Co., Miss., 8 Aug. 1862
m. ... [ca. 1849]
187 Sarah Theresa Davison, b. Pike Co., Miss., 29 Dec. 1829, d. Walthall Co.., Miss., 8 Feb. 1915
188 Dennis Dunaway, b. ... , Miss., ... 1826, d. ... , Miss., 2 July 1891
m.
189 Arminia Beard, b. Carters Creek, Pike Co., Miss., 22 Dec. 1827, d. Pike Co., Miss., 2 Dec. 1906
192 - 199 Same as 136 - 143, above.
202 Thomas Day, b. ... , Va., ... 1775, d. St. Helena, La., ... 1820
m. ... , Va., ... 1796
203 Ann Jones Mosley, b. ... , N. C., ... 1775, d. St. Helena, La., ... 1844
204 Michael Newman, b. ... , d. ...
m.
205 Mary Norman, b. ... , d. ...
206 Obediah Mixon, b. Orangeburg, S. C., ... [ca. 1780], d. Amite Co., Miss., 21 Feb. 1832
m.
207 Lavissa Sanders, b. ... , d. ...
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
274 (=386) Solomon Strickland, b. Nash Co., 22 Nov. 1735, d. Madison Co., Ga., 19 Sept. 1818
m. Raleigh, Edgecomb Co., N. C., 19 Sept. 1764
275 (=387) Amy Pace, b. Isle of Wight Co., Va., 2 May 1739, d. Madison Co., Ga., 9 Sept. 1815
278 (=390) William Lee, b. Brunswick Co., Va., ... 1727, d. Union Co., S. C., 12 Sept. 1796
m.
279 (=391) Sarah ... , b. ... , d. ...
280 (=392) John Travis, b. ... [ca. 1715], d. Edgefield District, Beaufort Co., N. C., ... 1809
m.
281 (=393) Mary Elizabeth Wilson, b. Beaufort Co., N. C., ... 1717, d. Edgefield District, Beaufort Co., N. C., ... 1813
282 (=394) Dominick John Graham, b. ... , d. ...
m.
283 (=395) Isabelle Cannon, b. ... , d. ...
284 (=396) Joseph Hurst, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... [ca. 1718], d. ... [ca. 1789]
m. ... [ca. 1760]
285 (=397) Winifred Nutt, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... 1739, d. ...
286 (=398) Richard Hudnall, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... 1740, d. ... [ca. 1804]
m. ... 16 June 1769
287 (=399) Nancy Barrett, b. ... [ca. 1749], d. ...
328 (=1416) Isaac Fortenberry, b. ... , Va., ... 1740, d. Lancaster Co., S. C., ... 1808
m.
329 (=1417) ... , b. ... , d. ...
330 (=1418) Jacob Magee, b. Sampson Co., N. C., ... [ca. 1763], d. Marion Co., Miss., 24 Aug. 1816
m. ... 1781
331 (=1419) Mary Scott, b. ... , d. ...
332 Jesse Lee, b. Bertie Co., N. C., ... 1735, d. Robeson Co., N. C., ... 1816
m.
333 Judith Shelley, b. ... 1738, d. ... 1795
336 Edward Ball, b. Georgetown, S. C., 21 Jan. 1744/5, d. Midway, Ga., ... 1779
m. Midway, Ga., 21 Jan. 1773
337 Rebecca Baker, b. St. Johns, S. C., ... 1744, d. Liberty Ga., 17 March 1792
338 (=742) John Warren, b. Craven Co., S. C., 18 Dec. 1752, d. Marion Co., Miss., 22 May 1821
m. ... 25 Jan. 1773
339 (=743) Elizabeth Perkins, b. Craven Co., S. C., 5 Apr. 1757, d. Marion Co., Miss., 22 July 1811
340 Cullen Connerly, b. Craven Co., N. C.., ... 1745, d. Duplin Co., N. C., 11 Nov. 1811
m. ... 1773
341 Felisa Ward, b. Bertie Co., N. C., ... 1748, d. Duplin Co., N. C., 26 Aug. 1846
342 William Wilkinson, b. ... 1758, d. ...
m.
343 Elizabeth Moore, b. ... , d. ...
354 William M ... Fortenberry, b. Lancaster District, S. C., 28 Dec. 1799, d. Marion Co, Miss., 27 Oct. 1867
m. Marion Co., Miss., 13 Oct. 1820
355 Christian Brown, b. ... , S. C., 2 Feb. 1805, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... Sept. 1860
356 Esau Whitstine Bass, b. Wayne Co., N. C., ... 1782, d. Prentiss, Lawrence Co., Miss., ... 1856
m. Burke Co., Ga., ... 1804
357 Nancy Elizabeth Cross, b. ... 1789, d. Prentiss, Lawrence Co., Miss., ... Oct. 1858
358 Daniel Brown, b. ... , N. C., 28 Nov. 1780, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... 1872
m. Robeson Co., N. C., 7 Jan. 1815
359 Mary Pittman, b. ... , N. C., 16 Nov. 1783, d. Marion Co., Miss., ... 1861
368 John Magee, b. Duplin Co., N. C., ... 1755, d. Pike Co., Miss., ... 1826
m. ... 1783
369 Bethany Scott, b. ... 1766, d. ... 1825
370 Fleming Tynes, b. ... , S. C., 11 Feb. 1779, d. Sandy Hook, Marion Co., Miss., 29 July 1830
m. ... , S. C., 8 Aug. 1805
371 Jane Warren, b. ... 14 Sept. 1786, d. Washington Parish, La., 15 Jan. 1859
372 William Boone, b. ... , d. ...
m.
373 Penelope Skinner, b. ... , d. ...
374 Felix Davison, b. ... 1810, d. Lauderdale Co., Miss., ... 1836
m. Marion Co., Miss., 22 Jan. 1828
375 Elizabeth Stovall, b. Giles Co., Tenn., 25 Nov. 1809 d. Lauderdale Co., Miss., ... [before 1850]
376 Jonathan Dunaway, b. ... [ca. 1785], d. ...
m.
377 Elizabeth Dennis, b. ... , d. ...
378 Aaron Beard, b. Chester Co., S. C., 18 Feb. 1797, d. Pike Co., Miss., ... [after 24 Feb. 1853]
m. ... [ca. 1814]
379 Keziah Carter, b. ... , Ga., ... [ca. 1798], d. Pike Co., Miss., ... [ca. 1850]
384 - 399 Same as 272 - 287, above.
404 Thomas Day, b. ... , d. ...
m.
405 Elizabeth Ann Nelson, b. ... , d. ...
406 Matthew Mosley, b. ... , d. ...
m.
407 Margaret Jones, b. ... , d. ...
412 George Mixon, b. ... 1748, d. ... 1810
m. ... 1775
413 Elizabeth Eborn, b. ... , d. ...
7/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
548 (=772) Jacob Strickland, b. Isle of Wight Co., Va., ... 1705, d. Nash Co., N. C., ... 1790
m.
549 (=773) Lucretia Pitts, b. ... 1716, d. ...
550 (=774) Thomas Pace, b. ... [ca. 1704], d. ... 4 July 1765
m. ... 1733
551 (=775) Amelia Boykin, b. ... 1710, d. ... 1765
560 (=784) Edward Travis, b. Perquimans Co., N. C., ... 1691, d. Perquimans Co., N. C., 30 Dec. 1739
m.
561 (=785) Mary Mills, b. ... , Md., ... 1695, d. ... [before 1740]
566 (=790) Edward Cannon, b. ... , d. ...
m.
567 (=791) ... , b. ... , d. ...
568 (=792) John Hurst, b. Northumberland Co., Va., ... [ca. 1695], d. Northumberland Co., Va., ... 1745/6
m.
569 (=793) Mary Harvey, b. ... , d. ...
570 (=794) Joseph Nutt, b. ... , d. ...
m.
571 (=795) Judith Corbell, b. ... , d. ...
572 (=796) Richard Hudnall, b. ... 1710, d. Northumberland Co., Va., ... 1760
m.
573 (=797) Rebecca Jameson, b. ... , d. Northumberland Co., Va., ... Sept. 1763
660 (=736 =2836) John Magee, b. Edgecombe Co., N. C., ... 1742, d. Duplin Co., N. C., ... 1802
m.
661 (=737 =2837) Ann Moore, b. ... , N. C., ... 1739, d. ... , N. C., ... 1804
664 Joshua Lee, b. ... 1706, d. ... 1782
m.
665 Mary Woodard, b. ... 1706, d. ...
666 John Philip Shelly, b. ... , Va., ... 1702, d. ... , N. C., ... 1749
m. ... 1738
667 Mary Waddell, b. ... , N. C., ... 1693, d. ... , N. C., ... 1748
672 Bartholomew Ball, b. St. Johns, S. C., ... 1707, d. ... [after 13 March 1777]
m.
673 Elizabeth Nelson, b. ... 1710, d. ... 1755
674 Dea. William Baker, b. Goose Creek, Berkeley Co., S. C., ... [ca. 1710/15], d. Midway, Liberty Co., Ga., 5 March 1767
m.
675 Sarah Osgood, b. Dorchester, Berkeley Co., S. C., ... 1716, d. Midway, Liberty Co., Ga., 4 Feb. 1763
676 (=1484) John Warren, b. ... 1725, d. Liberty Co., Ga., ... 1781
m.
677 (=1485) Martha Dubose, b. ... , d. Liberty Co., Ga., 1 Oct. 1831
678 (=1486) Rees Perkins, b. Prince Frederick Parish, S. C., ... 1729, d. Charleston, S. C., 26 May 1767
m. ... 1749
679 (=1487) Elizabeth Colson, b. ... 1733, d. ... 1768
680 John Connerly, b. Johnston Co., N. C., ... 1718, d. Johnston Co., N. C., ... March 1751
m. ... 1738
681 Keziah Herring, b. Isle of Wight Co., Va., ... 1715, d. Duplin Co., N. C., ... 1751
682 Luke Ward, b. ... 1730, d. Duplin Co., N. C., 30 May 1796
m.
683 Bridget Draughton, b. ... 1726, d. Duplin Co., N. C., 27 July 1827
708 - 709 same as 164 - 165, above
710 Moses Brown, b. ... 7 Feb. 1777, d. Marion Co., Miss., 27 Feb. 1838
m. ... [ca. 1804]
711 Sarah Robertson, b. ... , d. Liberty Co., Ga., ... 1810
712 Esau Bass, b. Craven Co., N. C., ... 1754, d. Dale Co., Ala., ... [ca. 1835]
m.
713 ... , b. ... , d. ...
714 Stephen Cross, b. ... , d. ... , Ga., ... 1787
m.
715 ... , b. ... , d. ...
718 Hardy Pittman, b. ... [ca. 1772], d. ... [ca. 1821]
m.
719 Nancy Rowland, b. ... , d. ...
736 - 737 same as 660 - 661, above
738 Nehemiah Scott, b. ... 1734, d. Duplin Co., N. C., ... [before 1801]
m.
739 Elizabeth Atkinson, b. ... [ca. 1734], d. ...
740 [Robert] Fleming Tynes, b. Halifax Co., Va., ... 1755, d. ... , La., ... 1829
m.
741 Melissa Watkins, b. ... [ca. 1766], d. ...
742 - 743 same as 338 - 339, above
748 Richard Davison, b. ... 1783, d. Phillips Co., Ark., ... 1856
m. Barren Co., Ky., 23 Feb. 1806
749 Tracy Perry, b. ... , d. ...
750 Drury Stovall, b. Granville Co., N. C., 17 Dec. 1770, d. Marion Co., Miss., 1 Nov. 1858
m. Lincoln Co., Ga., ... 1803
751 Lucy Wright, b. Amelia Co., Va., ... 1780, d. Marion Co., Miss., 1 Sept. 1869
756 John Beard, b. Cumberland Co., Pa., Spartanburg, S. C., 31 March 1765 d. Williamson Co., Tenn., 31 May 1825
m. Spartanburg, S. C., 1 Jan. 1785
757 Mary Blackstock, b. Spartanburg, S. C., 1 Oct. 1771 d. Williamson Co., Tenn., 5 Dec. 1853
768 - 769 Same as 544 - 575, above.
824 William Mixon, b. ... , Va., ... 1705, d. Craven Co., S. C., 13 Jan. 1783
m.
825 Frances ... , b. ... [ca. 1715], d. ... [ca. 1748]
8/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
1096 (=1544) Matthew Strickland, b. ... 1663, d. Isle of Wight Co., Va., 25 Oct. 1730
m.
1097 (=1545) Ann Braswell, b. ... 1674, d. ... 1744
1100 (=1548) Richard Pace, b. ... , d. ... Feb. 1737/8
m.
1101 (=1549) Rebecca Poythress, b. ... , d. ...
1120 (=1568) Daniel Travis, b. Munster, co. Cork, ... 1669, d. ... , N. C., ... 1698
m.
1121 (=1569) Susannah King, b. ... [ca. 1676], d. ...
1122 (=1570) John Mills, b. ... [ca. 1669], d. Prince George's Co., Md., ... 1717
m.
1123 (=1571) Mary O'Luine, b. ... [ca. 1673], d. ...
1136 (=1584) Thomas Hurst, b. ... 1652, d. ... 1721
m.
1137 (=1585) Elizabeth ... , b. ... , d. ...
1138 (=1586) William Harvey, b. ... , d. ...
m.
1139 (=1587) ... , b. ... , d. ...
1144 (=1592) Richard Hudnall, b. Northumberland Co., Va., 1 Nov. 1680, d. ... 19 Apr. 1732
m.
1145 (=1593) Mary ... , b. ... 1682, d. ... [ca. Sept. 1763]
1320 (=1472 =5672) William Magee, b. ... [ca. 1710], d. Duplin Co., N. C., 20 March 1796
m.
1321 (=1473 =5673) Elizabeth McCullough, b. ... 1710, d. ...
1328 John Lee, b. Nansemond Co., Va., ... 1671, d. Bertie Co., N. C., ... 1738
m.
1329 Mary ... , b. ... , d. ...
1330 John Woodard, b. ... , Va., ... 1695, d. Edgecombe Co., N. C., ... 1765
m.
1331 Margaret ... , b. ... 1765, d. ... , N. C., ... 1765
1344 William Ball, b. ... 1678, d. St. Johns Co., S. C., ... 1729
m.
1345 Margaret Sampson, b. ... 1681, d. ...
1348 Thomas Baker, b. ... , d. Berkeley Co., S. C., 13 July 1717
m.
1349 Joanna ... , b. ... , d. Colleton Co., S. C., ... 1741
1350 Thomas Osgood, b. Andover, Mass., 17 Dec. 1680, d. Dorchester, S. C., ... March 1735/6
m. ... [ca. 1708]
1351 Waitstill Way, b. Salem, Mass., ... 1691, d. Dorchester, S. C., ... [ca. 1750]
1352 (=2968) John Warren, b. ... 1703, d. ... 1788
m.
1353 (=2969) Mary Whilden, b. ... , d. ...
1354 John Dubose, (=2970) b. ... , S. C., ... [ca. 1706], d. Craven Co., S. C., ... 1778
m.
1355 (=2971) Mary Whilden, b. ... [ca. 1708], d. ...
1356 (=2972) Samuel Perkins, b. ... [ca. 1700], d. ...
m.
1357 (=2973) ... Rees, b. ... , d. ... 1743
1358 (=2974) Abraham Colson, b. Isle of Wight, Co., ... 1717, d. Craven Co., S. C., 7 Sept. 1750
m.
1359 (=2975) Sarah Ford, b. ... 1715, d. ... [ca. 1778]
1362 Samuel Herring, b. Isle of Wight Co., Va., ... [ca. 1682], d. Johnston Co., N. C., 22 Oct. 1750
m.
1363 Anne Williams, b. Isle of Wight Co., Va., ... [ca. 1690], d. ... [before 1750]
1366 Walter Draughton, b. ... 1690, d. Bertie Co., N. C., ... 1766
m.
1367 Bridget ... , b. ... , d. ...
1416 - 1419 same as 328 - 331, above
1424 Jeremiah Bass, b. ... 1720, d. ...
m.
1425 Nancy ... , b. ... , d. ...
1436 Newitt Pittman, b. ... [ca. 1738], d. ... 1787
m. ... 24 Aug. 1769
1437 Sarah Pitts, b. ... [ca. 1745], d. ... [after 1787]
1438 John Rowland, b. ... , d. Robeson Co., N. C., 27 Oct. 1803
m.
1439 Martha Willis, b. ... , d. ...
1472 - 1475 same as 1320 - 1323, above
1476 Joseph Scott, b. ... 5 Nov. 1716, d. Duplin Co., N. C., ... [before Jan. 1781]
m.
1477 ... , b. ... , d. ...
1480 William Tynes, b. ... , d. Granville Co., N. C., ... 1761
m.
1481 Ann Jennings, b. ... , d. ...
1484 - 1487 same as 676 - 679, above
1496 James Davison, b. ... , Va., ... 1768 d. Obion Co., Tenn., 22 Aug. 1824
m.
1497 Nancy Isbell, b. ... , d. ...
1500 Josiah Stovall, b. ... , Va., ... 1749, d. Lincoln Co., Ga., 20 Nov. 1798
m. ... 1768
1501 Mary Hicks, b. Hanover Co., , Va., 20 Nov. 1751, d. Hinds Co., Miss., 12 Dec. 1845
1502 William Wright, b. Lunenburg Co., Va., ... 1744, d. Lincoln Co., Ga., 9 May 1827
m.
1503 Drucilla Griffin, b. Halifax Co., N. C., ... [ca. 1753], d. Lincoln Co.., Ga., ... [after 1827]
1514 William Blackstock, b. ... 1750, d. Spartanburg, S. C., 9 May 1841
m.
1515 Eupheny ... , b. ... 1749, d. ...
1536 - 1599 Same as 1088 - 1151, above.
1648 John Mixon, b. Gloucester Co., Va., 14 Feb. 1680, d. Carteret Co., N. C., 25 Feb. 1733/4
m.
1649 Prudence Lide, b. Gloucester Co., Va., 18 March 1682/3, d. ... 9 June 1728
9/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
2192 (=3088) Matthew Strickland, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2193 (=3089) Elizabeth Lorrains, b. ... , d. ... 1724
2194 (=3090) Richard Braswell, b. ... 1651, d. ... 1734
m.
2195 (=3091) Sarah Sampson, b. ... , d. ... 1735
2200 (=3096) Richard Pace, b. ... , d. Charles City Co., Va., 14 Nov. 1697
m.
2201 (=3097) Mary Baker, b. ... , d. ...
2202 (=3098) Francis Poythress, b. ... 1639, d. ... 1690
m. ... 1668
2203 (=3099) Rebecca Coggin, b. ... 1643, d. ... 1693
2240 (=3136) William Travis, b. co. Cork, ... 1624, d. Albemarle Co., N. C., ... 1685
m.
2241 (=3137) Sarah West, b. ... , d. ...
2242 (=3138) John King, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2243 (=3139) Katherine Riggs, b. ... , d. ...
2244 (=3140) William Mills, b. ... , d. Calvert Co., Md., ... [before 26 Apr. 1676]
m. ... [ca. 1665]
2245 (=3141) Tabitha Wright, b. ... , d. Prince George's Co., Md., ... [before 20 Jan. 1699/1700]
2272 (=3168) Henry Hurst, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2273 (=3169) Mary Batte, b. ... , d. ...
2288 (=3184) John Hudnall, b. ... 1644, d. ... 19 Dec. 1683
m.
2289 (=3185) Margaret ... , b. ... , d. ...
2656 James Lee, b. ... 1647, d. ...
m.
2657 Sarah ... , b. ... , d. ...
2660 John Woodard, b. Bath Co., N. C., ... 1679, d. ... , N. C., ... [before 10 Dec. 1734]
m.
2661 Sarah Cannon, b. ... , d. ...
2690 Lewis Sampson, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2691 ... , b. ... , d. ...
2700 Thomas Osgood, b. Ipswich, Mass., 22 May 1651, d. Berkeley Co., S. C., ... Jan. 1728/9
m.
2701 Sarah Lord, b. Ipswich, Mass., ... 1650, d. Berkeley Co., S. C., ... Jan. 1726/7
2702 William Way, b. Dorchester, Mass., 30 Nov. 1652, d. Dorchester, S. C., ... 1725
m.
2703 Persis Witt, b. Dorchester, Mass., ... [ca. 1655], d. Dorchester, S. C., ... 1725
2708 (=5422 =5940) Isaac du Bose, b. Dieppe ... 1665, d. Jamestown, Berkeley Co., S. C., ... 1718
m. ... 1688
2709 (=5423 =5941) Suzanne Couillandeau, b. ... , d. ... [ca. 1737]
2710 (=5942) Jonathan Whilden, b. ... , d. ... 1736
m.
2711 (=5943) Elizabeth du Bose, b. ... 1691, d. ... 1736
2712 (=5944) John Perkins, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2713 (=5945) Lydia ... , b. ... , d. ...
2714 (=5946) Daniel Rees, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2715 (=5947) Elizabeth ... , b. ... , d. ... 1719
2716 (=5948) Joseph Colson, b. ... 1698, d. Brunswick Co., Va., ... [before 7 Apr. 1737]
m.
2717 (=5949) Mary Turberville, b. ... 1702, d. ...
2724 Anthony Herring, b. ... 1648, d. ... 1715
m.
2725 Rebecca West, b. ... 1652, d. ...
2832 - 2839 same as 656 - 663, above
2872 Thomas Pittman, b. ... 1704, d. Edgecombe Co., N. C., 4 Apr. 1754
m. ... 1723
2873 Anne Coffield, b. ... , d. ...
2944 - 2951 same as 2640 - 2647, above
2960 Samuel Tynes, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2961 ... , b. ... , d. ...
2962 Orlando Jennings, b. ... , d. ...
m.
2963 ... , b. ... , d. ...
2968 - 2975 same as 1352 - 1359, above
2992 Alexander Davison, b. Gloucester Co., Va., 31 Jan. 1744, d. Barren Co., Ky., 15 Aug. 1817
m. ... 1763
2993 Anna Bridges, b. ... , Ireland, ... 1746, d. Rutherford Co., N. C., ... [ca. 1783]
3000 John Stovall, b. Henrico Co., Va., ... 1712, d. Granville Co., N. C., 9 July 1781
m.
3001 Dorcas Poole, b. ... , d. ...
3002 John Hicks, b. ... , d. ...
m.
3003 Obedience ... , b. ... , d. ...
3006 John Griffin, b. Prince George Co., Va., 22 June 1727, d. ... [after Apr. 1797]
m.
3007 Sarah Parrish, b. ... , d. ... 14 June 1823
3028 William Blackstock, b. Belfast, co. Antrim, ... 1710 d. Union, S. C., 14 Dec. 1798
m. Cumberland Co., Pa., ... 1745
3029 Mary Jane Irwin, b. Cumberland Co., Pa., 2 May 1722, d. Union Co., S. C., ... 1798
3072 - 3199 Same as 2176 - 2303, above.
3296 John Mixon, b. ... , d. ... 1733
m.
3297 Grace ... , b. ... , d. ... 1735
3298 Richard Lide, b. ... , d. ...
m.
3299 ... , b. ... , d. ...
10/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
4384 (=6176) Jacob Strickland, b. ... , d. ...
m.
4385 (=6177) Amy Salvin, b. ... , d. ...
4386 (=6178) Anthony Lorains, b. ... , d. ...
m.
4387 (=6179) Anne Binnes, b. ... , d. ...
4388 (=6180 =10902) Robert Bracewell, b. ... 1613, d. ... 1667/8
m.
4389 (=6181 =10903) Rebecca Izard, b. ... , d. ...
4400 (=6192) George Pace, b. ... , d. Charles City Co., Va., 4 June 1655
m.
4401 (=6193) Sarah Maycock, b. ... , d. Charles City Co., Va., 25 Feb. 1657/8
4402 (=6194) Richard Baker, b. ... , d. ...
m.
4403 (=6195) Ann ... , b. ... , d. ...
4404 (=6196) Francis Poythress, b. ... , d. ... 1662
m.
4405 (=6197) Mary Sloman, b. ... , d. ...
4406 (=6198) John Coggin, b. ... , d. ...
m.
4407 (=6199) Frances Bland, b. ... , d. ...
4546 (=6338) Robert Batte, b. ... 1560, d. ... 1618
m.
4547 (=6339) Mary Parry, b. ... , d. ... 1633
5312 John Lee, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5313 ... , b. ... , d. ...
5320 Henry Woodard, b. ... 1659, d. ... 1715
m.
5321 Mary Martin, b. ... 1660, d. ...
5322 Edward Cannon, b. ... , d. ... 1729
m.
5323 ... , b. ... , d. ...
5400 Christopher Osgood, b. ... 1615, d. Ipswich, Mass., 10 Aug. 1650
m. St. Mary's, Marlborough, co. Wilts, 28 July 1633
5401 Margery Fowler, b. ... 1615, d. Andover, Mass., 20 Nov. 1701
5402 Robert Lord, b. ... , d. Ipswich, Mass., 2 Aug. 1683
m.
5403 Mary Waite, b. ... , d. Ipswich, Mass., 21 Apr. 1683
5404 Aaron Way, b. ... , d. Dorchester, Mass., 26 Sept. 1695
m. ... , Mass., ... 1647
5405 Joanna Sumner, b. ... , d. Dorchester, Mass., 26 Sept. 1695
5416 (=10844 =11880) Louis du Bose, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5417 (=10845 =11881) Anne ... , b. ... , d. ...
5418 (=10846 =11882) Pierre Couillandeau, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5419 (=10847 =11883) Suzanne Tramblade, b. ... , d. ...
5420 (=11884) John Whilden, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5421 (=11885) Mary ... , b. ... , d. ...
5422 - 5423 same as 2708 - 2709, above
5432 (=11896) Jacob Colson, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5433 (=11897) Mary Davis, b. ... , d. ...
5448 John Herring, b. ... 1620, d. Isle of Wight Co., Va., 10 June 1672
m.
5449 Marjorie Whitfield, b. ... 1624, d. ... 1674/5
5450 William West, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5451 Rebecca Bracewell, b. ... , d. ...
5664 - 5679 same as 1312 - 1327, above
5696 John Bass, b. ... 4 Dec. 1673, d. ... 1732
m.
5697 Love Harris, b. ... , d. ...
5888 - 5903 same as 5280 - 5295, above
5936 - 5951 same as 2704 - 2719, above
5984 Alexander Davison, b. ... , Scotland, ... 1690, d.Spotsylvania Co., Va., 7 Feb. 1747
m. ... 1742
5985 Sarah Ellis, b. Middlesex Co., Va., 7 Nov. 1717 d. ... [ca. Oct. 1752]
5986 Moses Bridges, b. ... , d. ...
m.
5987 ... , b. ... , d. ...
6000 Bartholomew Stovall, b. Albury, co. Surrey, 24 Aug. 1665, d. Henrico Co., Va., ... 1721
m. Henrico Co., Va., 8 Aug. 1693
6001 Anne Burton, b. ... [ca. 1670], d. Henrico Co., Va., ... 1725
6012 Richard Griffin, b. ... , Va., ... 1700, d. Halifax Co., Va., 22 Sept. 1766
m.
6013 Mary Green, b. Lunenburg Co., Va., ... 1703, d. ...
6056 Thomas Blackstock, b. ... , d. ...
m.
6057 ... Berry, b. ... , d. ...
6144 - 6399 Same as 4352 - 4607, above.
11/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
8800 (=12384) Richard Pace, b. ... , d. Surry Co., Va., 9 May 1625
m.
8801 (=12385) Isabella Smythe, b. ... , d. Charles City Co., Va., 26 Aug. 1629
8802 (=12386) Samuel Macock, b. ... , d. [in a massacre] Charles Hundred, Va., 22 March 1621/2
m.
8803 (=12387) Mary ... , b. ... , d. ...
8808 (=12392) Joshua Poythress, b. ... , d. ...
m.
8809 (=12393) Peachy ... , b. ... , d. ...
10624 Henry Lee, b. ... , d. ... 1657
m.
10625 ... , b. ... , d. ...
10640 Francis Woodard, b. ... 1625, d. ... 1679
m.
10641 Ann Hayes, b. ... , d. ...
10642 Joel Martin, b. ... , d. Bath Co., N. C., 24 Oct. 1715
m.
10643 Elizabeth Ward, b. ... , d. ...
10802 Philip Fowler, b. ... , d. Ipswich, Mass., 24 June 1678
m.
10803 Mary Winslow, b. ... , d. Ipswich, Mass., 30 Aug. 1659
10808 Henry Way, b. ... , d. Dorchester, Mass., 24 March 1666/7
m.
10809 Elizabeth Bacheler, b. ... , d. Dorchester, Mass., 23 Apr. 1665
10810 William Sumner, b. ... , d. ...
m.
10811 Mary West, b. ... , d. ...
10832 (=21688 =23760) Pierre du Bose, b. ... 1590, d. ...
m.
10833 (=21689 = 23761) Françoise Lienville, b. ... 1590, d. ...
10836 (=21692 =23764) Pierre Coillandeau, b. ... 1613, d. ...
m.
10837 (=21693 =23765) Marie Fougeraut, b. ... 1617, d. ...
10844 - 10847 same as 5416 - 5419, above
10866 (=23794) John Davis, b. ... , d. Isle of Wight Co., Va., 20 Sept. 1720
m.
10867 (=23795) Mary Burton, b. ... , d. ...
10896 Julines Herring, b. ... , d. ...
m.
10897 ... , b. ... , d. ...
10898 John Whitfield, b. ... , d. ...
m.
10899 ... , b. ... , d. ...
10900 Henry West, b. ... , d. ...
m.
10901 Sarah ... , b. ... , d. ...
10902 - 10903 same as 4388 - 4389, above
11328 - 11359 same as 2624 - 2655, above
11392 William Bass, b. ... , d. ...
m.
11393 Catherine Lanier, b. ... , d. ...
11776 - 11807 same as 10560 - 10591, above
11872 - 11903 same as 5408 - 5439, above
11974 Hezekiah Ellis, b. ... , d. Middlesex Co., Va., 23 Dec. 1726
m.
11975 Mary ... , b. ... , d. ...
12002 Thomas Burton, b. Henrico Co., Va., ... 1634, d. Henrico Co., Va., 1 Apr. 1689
m.
12003 Susannah Hatcher, b. Henrico Co., Va., ... 1646, d. ... 1699
12024 Ralph Griffin, b. ... , d. ...
m.
12025 ... , b. ... , d. ...
12026 Filmer Green, b. ... , d. ...
m.
12027 Mary Walker, b. ... , d. ...
12288 - 12799 Same as 8704 - 9215, above.
12/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
21688 - 21695 same as 10832 - 10839, above
21804 - 21807 same as 8776 - 8779, above
22656 - 22719 same as 5248 - 5311, above
23552 - 23615 same as 21120 - 21183, above
23744 - 23807 same as 10816 - 10879, above
24006 William Hatcher, b. ... 14 Jan. 1613, d. Henrico Co., Va., 1 Apr. 1680
m.
24007 Marian ... , b. ... , d. ... 1646
24052 Thomas Green, b. ... , d. ... 1714
m.
24053 Martha Filmer, b. ... , d. ...
24576 - 25599 Same as 17408 - 18431, above.
13/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
43376 - 43391 same as 21664 - 21679, above
43608 - 43615 same as 17552 - 17559, above
45312 - 45439 same as 10496 - 10623, above
47104 - 47231 same as 42240 - 42367, above
47488 - 47615 same as 21632 - 21759, above
48104 Thomas Green, b. ... , d. ...
m.
48105 Martha Malone, b. ... , d. ...
48106 Henry Filmer, b. ... , d. Warwick Co., Va., ... 1671
m.
48107 Elizabeth Standards, b. ... , d. ... 1667
49152 - 51199 Same as 34816 - 36863, above.
http://www.wargs.com/other/spears.html

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

being honest is saying " im native american and my grandparents were irish born in ireland, even tho census says they were all american born"? no thanks

If that's what you're told by family, then that's what you believe unless you do the work yourself.

[Heather Duval]

If that's what you're told by family, then that's what you believe unless you do the work yourself.

no, many celebrs do it to fake an image
to be seen as cool
to got minority respects and stuffs
everything is money

[Heather Duval]

Britney says that her grandmother was british and in her case she can prove it cause census says so

7 Lilian Irene Portell, b. 32 Barkham Road, Tottenham UD, Middlesex, 12 Nov. 1924 [entry no. 63], d. Kentwood, La., 30 May 1993 [SSDI 439-76-7337]

Barkham road is a place in UK, and census says she was died in kentwood :rolleyes:

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

"His family tree contains mostly English surnames and English-born distant ancestors, along with a smaller amount of Scottish, Welsh, and German, roots. No Native American ancestry has been documented/verified in any publicly available family trees of Chuck Norris, and all of Chuck’s grandparents are described as “white” on U.S. censuses.

Chuck is the son of Wilma (Scarberry) and Ray D. Norris. Chuck’s patrilineal line traces back to a John Norris, born in the 1500s, in Norfolk Co., England.

Chuck’s paternal grandparents were James Henry Norris (the son of William/Simon Norris and Eliza Ann) and Ella “Ellie” May Tinker (the daughter of James Asbury Tinker and Clarisa “Clara” Ann Cofer). William was the son of Samuel Norris and Melissa Curtis. Chuck’s great-grandfather James Tinker was the son of Jesse Tinker and Margaret McArthur.

Chuck’s maternal grandparents were John Porter Scarberry (the son of an unnamed father and Martha Scarberry) and Ada Agnes Hargrove (the daughter of John “Jack” P. Hargrove and Alice or Jemimie). Martha was the daughter of Richard E. Scarbrough and Eliza Jane Smith."


Chuck’s father, Ray D. Norris, on the 1930 U.S. Census –
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC7M-8QB
Chuck’s paternal grandmother, Ella “Ellie” May Tinker, on the 1880 U.S. Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6P5-KM3
Chuck’s maternal grandparents, John Porter Scarberry and Ada Agnes
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MN1K-D5T
Genealogy of Chuck’s maternal grandfather, John Porter Scarberry (focusing on his own father’s side)
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bobhopkins0&id=I10809
Chuck’s maternal great-grandparents, John P. “Jack” Hargrove and Alice, on the 1910 U.S. Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ML71-MV9

Sources: Genealogies of Chuck Norris
http://www.wargs.com/other/norris.html
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=14x24&id=I0001
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adam993&id=I431439

Whether someone is listed as White or not on the US census in the past was dependent on what the census taker thought of the person. It wasn't self declared. For example, some Mexican Americans were listed as White and others as Mexican depending on how the person looked to the census taker (this is before the Hispanic ethnic label was used). My ex-gf would be declared as White because she didn't live on a reservation and didn't look as if she had NA, while her mother wouldn't be listed as White.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

no, many celebrs do it to fake an image
to be seen as cool
to got minority respects and stuffs
everything is money

That explains him 'lying' about having Irish ancestry.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

That explains him 'lying' about having Irish ancestry.

Actually, now that I think about it, I had another ex-gf who was both Scots-Irish (mostly) and Irish but would always says Irish instead of making a distinction. I've heard that some Scots-Irish in the US simply refer to themselves as Irish but I don't know how accurate that is. On relatively recent census ethnic maps areas that are heavily Scots-Irish always fall under 'American.' Those maps are based on self reported ancestry.

[Heather Duval]

That explains him 'lying' about having Irish ancestry.

poc people are an huge group in usa
if you are famous you have to own them
about irish
its the same thing about some americans lies about being german/italian
seems more cool than be just english descent

[Heather Duval]

Whether someone is listed as White or not on the US census in the past was dependent on what the census taker thought of the person. It wasn't self declared. For example, some Mexican Americans were listed as White and others as Mexican depending on how the person looked to the census taker (this is before the Hispanic ethnic label was used). My ex-gf would be declared as White because she didn't live on a reservation and didn't look as if she had NA, while her mother wouldn't be listed as White.
Colton Haynes has DISTANT(well, nattie is from 1900 but she is mostly mestiza lol) native american ancestry and the census has listed his relative as indigenous...

"Colton’s paternal grandfather was Clayton Jack Haynes (the son of William W. Haynes and Nettie Mildred Bendura/Bendure). Clayton and his father, William, are listed as “White” on the 1930 U.S. Census, and was the son of Lilla. Clayton’s mother, Nettie (Colton’s great-grandmother), is listed as “Indian"

Nettie on census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLQJ-LXC

[RMuller]

My favourite from Last of the Mohicans Eric Schweig although he is Inuit.

https://ericschweigfan.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/es-bwots.jpg
https://ericschweigfan.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/epenow-before-the-attack.jpg

He doesn't look Inuit. He looks Silvid.

[Grace O'Malley]

He doesn't look Inuit. He looks Silvid.

He isn't just Inuit (my mistake). He is is an Inuit and Ojibwe/Anishinaabe Aboriginal Canadian according to Wikipedia.

[Peter Nirsch]

A lot of them claim native american ancestry just to solve their guilt towards Amerindians.

[Philip Latinowitz]

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/12/01/12/Messi-Suarez-Neymar1.jpg

Wonder how much of native admixture would each of them score

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Colton Haynes has DISTANT(well, nattie is from 1900 but she is mostly mestiza lol) native american ancestry and the census has listed his relative as indigenous...

"Colton’s paternal grandfather was Clayton Jack Haynes (the son of William W. Haynes and Nettie Mildred Bendura/Bendure). Clayton and his father, William, are listed as “White” on the 1930 U.S. Census, and was the son of Lilla. Clayton’s mother, Nettie (Colton’s great-grandmother), is listed as “Indian"

Nettie on census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLQJ-LXC

Did you even understand the post you were responding to? It doesn't touch on what I said and so I'm confused.

btw, this guy, Gino Odjick, (changed his first name because there was another kid on the reservation with the same first name) is a Native Canadian (Algonquin) with a mother who was part French.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2F6D0fjW6F0/S8oVCeQfeSI/AAAAAAAAAo0/66ta4vgwi00/s1600/gino.jpg

Everett Sanipass was born on a Mi'kmaq reservation (many men from this group joined the US army despite being Canadians to fight in Vietnam. The group is also referenced in the film Pet Cemetery.

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/tf4AAOSwB-1YrXLB/s-l225.jpg

Stan Jonathan. I believe he's Algonquin also but I'm not sure. I do know he grew up on the border of Ontario/New York state.

https://nbcprohockeytalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt uxzmvjngnhzti5ndmzmjy1zgrmnja2ztdmmja4nzjm.jpeg?w= 905

Notice the differences between the three. People who were 'half breeds' either joined Metis groups (speaking of Canada) or married into the mother's tribal group. In the US there weren't self identifying Metis groups to join and so they'd join the mother's tribe.

Men like to have sex and they'll have sex with anyone regardless of their socio-economic background. That's very different than marrying and raising the children. In a society where pre-marital sex was looked downed up men cross over to the other side of town and naturally have sex with women who are in need because of their status in society and desperate situation. Occasionally illegitimate children would be born and the women just stuck it out. Black women faced the same issue.

There is also Whites taken in raids and becoming part of the group but it doesn't appear to have been common. Although there is documented cases of Sanipass' tribe doing so to families living in northern Maine.

There is also men on the frontier who would take native women as brides because there weren't any White women around. A common occurrence in what is the modern state of Georgia when it was first being settled.

Except for Jonathan none of those men look like the photos of Amerindians taken in the 19th century. Odjick would be seen as a White guy (an odd looking one, yes). Sanipass looks like a White guy with a tan (European features). Jonathan is the only one who looks similar to photos of natives taken from the 19th century.

https://magazine.du.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/slideshow1.jpg

Admixture is pretty much going in one direction when it comes north of Mexico (in the direction of Native American groups) but this creates situations where people with native ancestry would be seen as White if someone didn't know any better.

[Awebo]

Canadians are more likely to have genuine Native American ancestry than Americans who claim any are.

[Heather Duval]

Did you even understand the post you were responding to? It doesn't touch on what I said and so I'm confused.

btw, this guy, Gino Odjick, (changed his first name because there was another kid on the reservation with the same first name) is a Native Canadian (Algonquin) with a mother who was part French.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2F6D0fjW6F0/S8oVCeQfeSI/AAAAAAAAAo0/66ta4vgwi00/s1600/gino.jpg

Everett Sanipass was born on a Mi'kmaq reservation (many men from this group joined the US army despite being Canadians to fight in Vietnam. The group is also referenced in the film Pet Cemetery.

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/tf4AAOSwB-1YrXLB/s-l225.jpg

Stan Jonathan. I believe he's Algonquin also but I'm not sure. I do know he grew up on the border of Ontario/New York state.

https://nbcprohockeytalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt uxzmvjngnhzti5ndmzmjy1zgrmnja2ztdmmja4nzjm.jpeg?w= 905

Notice the differences between the three. People who were 'half breeds' either joined Metis groups (speaking of Canada) or married into the mother's tribal group. In the US there weren't self identifying Metis groups to join and so they'd join the mother's tribe.

Men like to have sex and they'll have sex with anyone regardless of their socio-economic background. That's very different than marrying and raising the children. In a society where pre-marital sex was looked downed up men cross over to the other side of town and naturally have sex with women who are in need because of their status in society and desperate situation. Occasionally illegitimate children would be born and the women just stuck it out. Black women faced the same issue.

There is also Whites taken in raids and becoming part of the group but it doesn't appear to have been common. Although there is documented cases of Sanipass' tribe doing so to families living in northern Maine.

There is also men on the frontier who would take native women as brides because there weren't any White women around. A common occurrence in what is the modern state of Georgia when it was first being settled.

Except for Jonathan none of those men look like the photos of Amerindians taken in the 19th century. Odjick would be seen as a White guy (an odd looking one, yes). Sanipass looks like a White guy with a tan (European features). Jonathan is the only one who looks similar to photos of natives taken from the 19th century.

https://magazine.du.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/slideshow1.jpg

Admixture is pretty much going in one direction when it comes north of Mexico (in the direction of Native American groups) but this creates situations where people with native ancestry would be seen as White if someone didn't know any better.

And what is the relative with being listed indian or white in the census? I bet colton indian ancestry is not even pure indian but was listed as one because of one drop rule

[alnortedelsur]

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/12/01/12/Messi-Suarez-Neymar1.jpg

Wonder how much of native admixture would each of them score

The one in the middle is mixed with black, the one on the left has some substantial Amerindian mixture, and Messi just has some little Amerindian admixture.

[alnortedelsur]

Canadians are more likely to have genuine Native American ancestry than Americans who claim any are.

If I am not wrong, at least half, or most than half of the Canadian population has at least some minor Amerindian mixture.

[Heather Duval]

If I am not wrong, at least half, or most than half of the Canadian population has at least some minor Amerindian mixture.

Mostly french canadian.