Any Albanian/Greek with lower Baltic + East Euro result than mine?

[Wrong]

Eurogenes K15



<tbody>
Baltic
9.30


Eastern_Euro
6.57

</tbody>


Post yours

[Coolguy1]

I get like 19 combined, whats the difference between baltic and east euro? Ive seen some results with high baltic and very low east euro

[Kelmendasi]

I get like 19 combined, whats the difference between baltic and east euro? Ive seen some results with high baltic and very low east euro
Baltic I would guess is Finno-Ugric influence with maybe an influence of Slavic and East European I think would either be Steppe/Indo-european or Slavic influence

[Coolguy1]

Baltic I would guess is Finno-Ugric influence with maybe an influence of Slavic and East European I think would either be Steppe/Indo-european or Slavic influence

On the k15 population maps baltic is more associated with slavic countries and east euro with finno ugric areas around the ural mountains.

[Kelmendasi]

On the k15 population maps baltic is more associated with slavic countries and east euro with finno ugric areas around the ural mountains.
If that's the case then Baltic possible is a mix of Finnish and Slavic but with massive Slavic input maybe

[Coolguy1]

Eastern_Euro component

38 : Mari
36 : Chuvash
28 : Erzya, Selkup (Centre Siberia)
27 : Russian_Kargopol, Saami_Finland
24 : East_Finnish, Finnish, Ket (Centre Siberia)
23 : Shor (Altaï), Southwest_Russia
22 : Tatar
21 : Belorussian, Estonian, Lithuanian
20 : Polish, Russian_Smolensk
19 : Khakas (South Siberia)
18 : South_Polish, Southwest_Finnish
15 : Burusho, Croatian, Kalash, Moldavian, North_Swedish, Tabassaran
14 : Lezgin
13 : Austrian, East_German, Hungarian, Serbian
12 : Afghan_Pashtu, Afghan_Turkmen, Danish, Icelandic, Pathan, Punjabi_Jat, Tadjik
11 : Altaian, Norwegian, Swedish
10 : Afghan_Tadjik, Afghan_Uzbeki, Balochi, Chechen, North_German, Romanian,
09 : Brahmin_UP, Brahui, Bulgarian, Hazara, Kabardin, Nogay , North_Dutch, South_Dutch
08 : Adyghei, Afghan_Hazara, Balkar, Gujarati, Irish, Kshatriya (warrior caste), Kumik, Orcadian, Sindhi, SouthEast_English , SouthWest_English
07 : Greek, Makrani
06 : Azeri, Bangladeshi, East_Sicilian, French, Iranian, Kanjar (NW India), Kurdish, Mongolian, Ossetian
05 : Ashkenazi, Greek_Thessaly, North_Kannadi (SW India), North_Ossetian, Southwest_French
04 : Chukchi, Darkhar (craftmen N India), Dolgan, Kol (tribe E India), Koryak, North_Italian, Portuguese, Sp_Cantabria, Sp_Catalunia, Sp_Extremadura, Sp_Galicia, Sp_Valencia
03 : Abkhasian, Buryat, Central_Greek, French_Basque, Georgian, Georgian_Jew, Italian_Abruzzo, Sp_Andalusia, Sp_Aragon, Sp_Castilla_La_Mancha, Sp_Murcia
02 : Armenian, Assyrian, Chamar(Dalit N India), Cyprian, Dusadh (Rajputs N India), Evenki, Iranian_Jew, Kurdish_Jewih, Kurumba (farmer S India), Lebaneze_Druze, North_Amerindian, Sp_Castilla_Y_Leon,


Populations east euro is mostly associated with

[Kelmendasi]

Eastern_Euro component

38 : Mari
36 : Chuvash
28 : Erzya, Selkup (Centre Siberia)
27 : Russian_Kargopol, Saami_Finland
24 : East_Finnish, Finnish, Ket (Centre Siberia)
23 : Shor (Altaï), Southwest_Russia
22 : Tatar
21 : Belorussian, Estonian, Lithuanian
20 : Polish, Russian_Smolensk
19 : Khakas (South Siberia)
18 : South_Polish, Southwest_Finnish
15 : Burusho, Croatian, Kalash, Moldavian, North_Swedish, Tabassaran
14 : Lezgin
13 : Austrian, East_German, Hungarian, Serbian
12 : Afghan_Pashtu, Afghan_Turkmen, Danish, Icelandic, Pathan, Punjabi_Jat, Tadjik
11 : Altaian, Norwegian, Swedish
10 : Afghan_Tadjik, Afghan_Uzbeki, Balochi, Chechen, North_German, Romanian,
09 : Brahmin_UP, Brahui, Bulgarian, Hazara, Kabardin, Nogay , North_Dutch, South_Dutch
08 : Adyghei, Afghan_Hazara, Balkar, Gujarati, Irish, Kshatriya (warrior caste), Kumik, Orcadian, Sindhi, SouthEast_English , SouthWest_English
07 : Greek, Makrani
06 : Azeri, Bangladeshi, East_Sicilian, French, Iranian, Kanjar (NW India), Kurdish, Mongolian, Ossetian
05 : Ashkenazi, Greek_Thessaly, North_Kannadi (SW India), North_Ossetian, Southwest_French
04 : Chukchi, Darkhar (craftmen N India), Dolgan, Kol (tribe E India), Koryak, North_Italian, Portuguese, Sp_Cantabria, Sp_Catalunia, Sp_Extremadura, Sp_Galicia, Sp_Valencia
03 : Abkhasian, Buryat, Central_Greek, French_Basque, Georgian, Georgian_Jew, Italian_Abruzzo, Sp_Andalusia, Sp_Aragon, Sp_Castilla_La_Mancha, Sp_Murcia
02 : Armenian, Assyrian, Chamar(Dalit N India), Cyprian, Dusadh (Rajputs N India), Evenki, Iranian_Jew, Kurdish_Jewih, Kurumba (farmer S India), Lebaneze_Druze, North_Amerindian, Sp_Castilla_Y_Leon,


Populations east euro is mostly associated with
Some of them aren't even in Europe. I would guess that the Asian part of this is Indo-European and so is some of the European part but most seems Slavic influenced

[Drawing-slim]

Eurogenes K15



<tbody>
Baltic
9.30


Eastern_Euro
6.57

</tbody>


Post yours
Baltic 10.23%
East euroe 5.60%
Same shit

[Petalpusher]

Easy to just look at the spreadsheet on Gedmatch. It basically reflects an increasing ANE to WHG ratio as you go east in those 3 "North Eurasian" components.


North_Sea
Norwegian 39.73
Swedish 39.32
Danish 36.57

Baltic
Lithuanian 36.36
Belorussian 32.02
Estonian_Polish 31.21

Eastern Euro
Mari 38.39
Chuvash 36.15
Erzya 29.07


ANE map
https://s9.postimg.org/nxzuwd1nz/mmeiht.png

[Era]

Me:
Baltic 8.40
Eastern_Euro 6.98


My brother
Baltic 8.59
Eastern_Euro 5.86

[Wrong]

Me:
Baltic 8.40
Eastern_Euro 6.98


My brother
Baltic 8.59
Eastern_Euro 5.86You're less Skljavic than I am.

I probably have more Skljavic admixture from maternal ancestors.

[Era]

You're less Slavic than I.

I probably have more Slavic admixture from maternal ancestors.

I doubt it, differences are too small and merely reflect our geography, I am at the most western point of Albania so it makes sense.

[Wrong]

I doubt it, differences are too small and merely reflect our geography, I am at the most western point of Albania so it makes sense.
Some of it could be Indo-European admixture, too. I guess this is true in my case since it makes sense with the DNA.land results.

[Wrong]

Which ancient groups had very high Eastern Euro? Was it many Bronze Age groups? Makes sense since it's high in Iran and probably North India(no samples from India in the map).


Easy to just look at the spreadsheet on Gedmatch. It basically reflects an increasing ANE to WHG ratio as you go east in those 3 "North Eurasian" components.
Eastern Euro
Mari 38.39
Chuvash 36.15
Erzya 29.07


ANE map
https://s9.postimg.org/nxzuwd1nz/mmeiht.png

[Petalpusher]

Which ancient groups had very high Eastern Euro? Was it many Bronze Age groups? Makes sense since it's high in Iran and probably North India(no samples from India in the map).
Yes it was high in Yamnaya, but with a lot of N.Sea and West Asian as well (because they were EHG+CHG mix)

Yamnaya Kit M655536
# Population Percent
1 Eastern_Euro 31.93
2 North_Sea 31.56
3 West_Asian 17.7
4 Baltic 10.57
5 South_Asian 4.52
6 Amerindian 3.73



ANE is still prominent today in central and south asia, which we only see partially on the map. Even Indians have more than any Euro groups. Peaks in Amerindians, then central&south Asians.

[Nilotik]

Baltic 14.40
Eastern_Euro 5.61

:D

[Kelmendasi]

I doubt it, differences are too small and merely reflect our geography, I am at the most western point of Albania so it makes sense.
What part?

[Coolguy1]

My baltic is 11 but my east euro is 8 which is strange, because I also have the highest amount of east med ive seen on a Peloponnesian.

[Deniz]

Just for diversity and comparison.

Baltic 14.58
Eastern_Euro 11.96

[DRUM]

23andme
Baltic 9.37
Eastern_Euro 7.58

ftdna
Baltic 9.63
Eastern_Euro 7.91

[Wrong]

23andme
Baltic 9.37
Eastern_Euro 7.58

ftdna
Baltic 9.63
Eastern_Euro 7.91Is the ftdna a separate spit sample or is it 23andme upload feature?
Seems like ftdna makes people slightly more northern than 23andme.

[Ylla]

Baltic 9.20
Eastern_Euro 6.36

[DRUM]

Is the ftdna a separate spit sample or is it 23andme upload?
Seems like ftdna makes people slightly more northern than 23andme.

separate sample

but also west med and east med is higher for me at ftdna, so it all averages out in the end.. max difference is 0.59 for north sea component
on that PCA plot i get same coordinates with both companies

[Wrong]

separate sample

but also west med and east med is higher for me at ftdna, so it all averages out in the end.. max difference is 0.59 for north sea component
on that PCA plot i get same coordinates with both companiesThere are some people who get different and more northwestern plotting on average with ftdna opposed to 23andme.

But yeah, only 1% deviation or something.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Not Greek or Albanian, just posting my score to compare southwestern to southeastern. I scored similar Eastern European levels to some of you on K13. Lesser Baltic though.

Eastern_Euro 5.49
Baltic 5.19

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Baltic 11.48
East Euro 5.02

[Geni]

Eurogenes K15



<tbody>
Baltic
9.30


Eastern_Euro
6.57

</tbody>


Post yours
East_Med 23.65
North_Sea 18.17
West_Med 16.89
Atlantic 14.32
West_Asian 12.12
Baltic 8.35
Eastern_Euro 3.25
Red_Sea 2.45

[ChocolateFace]

Baltic 13.41
Eastern_Euro 8.05

[Wrong]

Me:
Baltic 8.40
Eastern_Euro 6.98


My brother
Baltic 8.59
Eastern_Euro 5.86
Siblings can be really different autosomally. This is already about 1% difference only from these 2 populations.

Which is why autosomalism is autism.

[Wrong]

This is pure autism. Delet this thread.

[Dibran]

Eurogenes K15



<tbody>
Baltic
9.30


Eastern_Euro
6.57

</tbody>


Post yours

Me:


Baltic 9.34
Eastern_Euro 6.71

Father:

Baltic 11.67
Eastern_Euro 6.55

[Wrong]

Me:


Baltic 9.34
Eastern_Euro 6.71

Father:

Baltic 11.67
Eastern_Euro 6.55

The Sllav admix seems to increase for every generation you go back paternally.

[Dibran]

The Sllav admix seems to increase for every generation you go back paternally.

Only my father plots more southern than I do. And in most calculators I have more of it(probably from my Malesore mom)

[King Niko]

I am brown and from the Med/Balkans and Anatolia :)

[Pjeter Pan]

Baltic 9.56
Eastern_Euro 7.63