Turkmenistan President 'we are same nation as Turkey,

[Böri]

New ambassador of Turkmens in Turkey transmit president Berdymukhamedov message to Turkish state television:
Turkey and Turkmenistan are two states but one nation. Two countries have exceptional close cultural and historical and ethnic ties. Turkey and Turkmenistan are brothers in bone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOG-JQqE2YM

So some people say here we are deluded. They call us fool. But feelings are obviously mutual. Other point is Turkmenistan face West so Turkey.

[sweetalmonds]

This thread is retard. Speaking similar languages doesn't mean that they are the same nationality, just like Flemish and Cape Coloureds, Portuguese and Mexicans, or Saudis and Maltese.

[Böri]

This thread is retard. Speaking similar languages doesn't mean that they are the same nationality, just like Flemish and Cape Coloureds, Portuguese and Mexicans, or Saudis and Maltese.

No .Turkish and Turkmen share common ancestry, common blood both people descend from medieval Seljuk empire. Azerbaijan and Gagauz peoples also related with Turkish and Turkmen. So it's not like Wasp and Jamaican. There is linguistic, genetics, ethnic and ancestry connections. You are wrong, President is right.

[Seya]

great! :))) i hope all Turkic people will unite ))) i can't wait to see that

[ariel]

great! :))) i hope all Turkic people will unite ))) i can't wait to see that

Do you speaking any turkic language?

[Seya]

Do you speaking any turkic language?

kazakh a bit ))) but i understand it better...

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOG-JQqE2YM

It always looks bizzarish, when non-yellow people speak chinese... :icon_rolleyes:

[Jehan]

That's strange.
The few I heard about Turkmenistan foreign politics is basically to stay quiet. Always be discret in international business. As the country is lead by dictator, being discret and don't make ennemy is there motto to keep the control of the country.

I'am very surprise by this, even if probably nobody out of the turkish world would give a shit about it.

[Ülev]

GÖKTENGİRİNİN ÇOÇUKLARINA SELAM OLSUN IRKIMIZI DOĞRU YOLU GÖSTERSİN

[Squall Leonhart]

Don't get me wrong they are closer to each other than say a WASP and a Jamaican but they are overall very different. Turkmenistan has more in common with NW China than Anatolian Turkey. This is just pan-Turkic PR stuff. And yes there are ethnic Central Asians living in Turkey but most Anatolian Turks are firmly a West Asian people.

[Rumata]

AFAIK, Turkmenistan ever since the destruction of USSR been considerably more backward than Turkey. Well, congrats anyway :thumb001:


i hope all Turkic people will unite ))) i can't wait to see that
But why?

[Ülev]

It always looks bizzarish, when non-yellow people speak chinese... :icon_rolleyes:

Gök babamız bize yardım et bizi koru, doğru yolu tekrar bütün ırkımıza göster. Rethel. R1 Turkic pride, so please convert.

[Böri]

Keep calm and digest Lol. What this thread shows? This destroy propaganda only Anatolian Turks identify with them and Turkmens dont care so they call us fools. They call us deludeds. Haha hahahaha. Ha ha ha. Hahaaaaaaa. Now you see this isnt love just from one side.Who cares system there? He can be dictator and this isnt my problem. No Turk give f•ck what you think. Turkish, Turkmens, Azeris, Gagauz all share common Seljuk origins and ONE SAME RACE.

[Rumata]

Tbh, I haven't even watched the video. Not interested. I'm out of here.

[Böri]

Tbh, I haven't even watched the video. Not interested. I'm out of here.

Man you are wise, you shouldnt be like us or them kids here. Why you trash you say they are backward? F•ck! you are old as my dad almost!

[Rumata]

Man you are wise, you shouldnt be like us or them kids here. Why you trash you say they are backward?
Thanks. I said it because I've read a bit about how this country was doing under Niyazov after getting independence. Some points:
Cult of personality (14 000 of statues to the 'president'). His book was a text book in the school.
Dictatorship. Police state. No freedom whatever.
Severe problems in education and medicine.
Economics is based on natural resources almost exclusively. Results were poor.

You can try to translate these readings. Here they are:
http://www.aif.ru/society/28747
http://forum.ykt.ru/viewtopic.jsp?id=1864264


F•ck! you are old as my dad almost!
OK. So what?

[Ülev]

Tüm Türk'lerin tek çatı altında toplandıgı günler ne zaman gelecek?





















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[Hudayar]

Don't get me wrong they are closer to each other than say a WASP and a Jamaican but they are overall very different. Turkmenistan has more in common with NW China than Anatolian Turkey. This is just pan-Turkic PR stuff. And yes there are ethnic Central Asians living in Turkey but most Anatolian Turks are firmly a West Asian people.


This thread is retard. Speaking similar languages doesn't mean that they are the same nationality, just like Flemish and Cape Coloureds, Portuguese and Mexicans, or Saudis and Maltese.


low IQ

[Profileid]

Why don't you look like them though?

[Böri]

Why don't you look like them though?

Each side got different experiences with different types of people over the last 1000 years that's why.

[Hudayar]

Why don't you look like them though?
They're not very different from us.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Iranian_students_30_June_30_2013_in_Baghrud_-_Nishapur_30.JPG

The only difference is that their mongoloid influenced people are way more mongoloid than our mongoloid influenced people here.

[Profileid]

Each side got different experiences with different types of people over the last 1000 years that's why.

You're trying to claim the bastardization is the same on both sides but it isn't.
https://orexca.com/images/fotogallery/img_full/1312975515_7362.jpg
meanwhile turks look like this
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246281403141062656/373668341203861506/Screenshot_7.png
Nigga on the left is a saudi prince

[Böri]

Christian Arab, plz keep your bs for yourself. In our case if anything it's intermarriage coz we can track back our roots.
In your mongrel Levantine case, there is nothing such as ethnicity.

Hell you speak Arab, Aramaic and whatnot else, you are a mix of anything from Arabid until Crusader North Euro including SSA and Red Sea, East Med, Armenoid with some Turkoman elite genes from Seljuk Atabegs which ruled your Levant region.

Now it's funny you come and call us bastards.

[Tong]

i have seen turkmens and turks, they certainly look very different. speak a similar language though.

[Tong]

You're trying to claim the bastardization is the same on both sides but it isn't.
https://orexca.com/images/fotogallery/img_full/1312975515_7362.jpg
meanwhile turks look like this
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246281403141062656/373668341203861506/Screenshot_7.png
Nigga on the left is a saudi prince

'''turk''' diaspora in europe is often inbred kurds, laz, gypsies, etc. in other countries they arent from isolated communities. at least, that is what a turk diaspora here told me.

[Profileid]

Christian Arab, plz keep your bs for yourself. In our case if anything it's intermarriage coz we can track back our roots.
In your mongrel Levantine case, there is nothing such as ethnicity.

Hell you speak Arab, Aramaic and whatnot else, you are a mix of anything from Arabid until Crusader North Euro including SSA and Red Sea, East Med, Armenoid with some Turkoman elite genes from Seljuk Atabegs which ruled your Levant region.

Now it's funny you come and call us bastards.

I'm a white Germanic.

And are you denying Turks are mongrels?

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2016/07/000_D93JS.jpg
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/07/GettyImages-584824882-1024x682.jpg
https://www.samaa.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/000_DH8NW.jpg
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2016/08/Turkey-Miltary-Coup_Horo1-e1470581021321.jpg

[Hudayar]

You're trying to claim the bastardization is the same on both sides but it isn't.
meanwhile turks look like this
Nigga on the left is a saudi prince

low iq
http://www.youngpioneertours.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/150_turkmen-national-performance.jpg
http://www.eurasianet.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleria_fullscreen/Turkmen%20Women.jpg
besides gedmatch results of Turks are on this website.

[Hudayar]

I'm a white Germanic.

And are you denying Turks are mongrels?

low iq x2

First of all, you're an American. Not "Germanic". Reminder that you're the mongrel yourself. But don't worry same goes for almost everyone in the New World.
Second, i already mentioned that you're American so i don't have to say this but i really want to say it again. low iq
Third, in the first pic you posted Arabs and in the last pic there's a turanid influenced woman.
what should i call you again: low iq or american? they're synonyms but wanna hear your opinion.

[Profileid]

low iq x2

First of all, you're an American. Not "Germanic". Reminder that you're the mongrel yourself. But don't worry same goes for almost everyone in the New World.
Second, i already mentioned that you're American so i don't have to say this but i really want to say it again. low iq
Third, in the first pic you posted Arabs and in the last pic there's a turanid influenced woman.
what should i call you again: low iq or american? they're synonyms but wanna hear your opinion.

I am a Germanic American.
Also they're all Turks. As always,you guys ignore the 90% of you that is MENA and focus on being 2% east asian. Which is very weird.

[catgeorge]

Third World Union

[Hudayar]

I am a Germanic American.
Also they're all Turks. As always,you guys ignore the 90% of you that is MENA and focus on being 2% east asian. Which is very weird.

As i mentioned before. You're a mongrel. Stop pretending to be "germanic". There are actual Germanic people on this forum. You make them cringe i'm 100% sure about it.

Second, you are low iq. I have posted several Turkish gedmatch results, they often come up as 10-15% Mongoloid and central asian heritage varies between 40-50%. And "Mena" heritage is usually around 50-60%. rest is med if you count med as european too.
and no, not all of them are Turks. in the first pic i see Arabs.

Now get the fuck out of this thread.

[Profileid]

As i mentioned before. You're a mongrel. Stop pretending to be "germanic". There are actual Germanic people on this forum. You make them cringe i'm 100% sure about it.

Second, you are low iq. I have posted several Turkish gedmatch results, they often come up as 10-15% Mongoloid and central asian heritage varies between 40-50%. And "Mena" heritage is usually around 50-60%. rest is med if you count med as european too.
and no, not all of them are Turks. in the first pic i see Arabs.

Now get the fuck out of this thread.

I am Germanic. The vast majority of my ancestry comes from the British isles. I am more Germanic than any Turk is Turkic going by genetics.
This is a typical Turk.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/12433583623_cdea332a6e_b.jpg

[Hudayar]

I am Germanic. The vast majority of my ancestry comes from the British isles. I am more Germanic than any Turk is Turkic going by genetics.
This is a typical Turk.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/12433583623_cdea332a6e_b.jpg
I don't give a shit about 23andme. http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=41291 and he's from this thread it seems. 6.35% mongoloid, which means he's mixed (I suppose he's part Circassian or an unknown ethnicity)
here are Turks
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?224818-Western-Turks-GEDmatch-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?223578-GEDmatch-results-of-a-Turk-from-South-Eastern-Anatolia
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222693-Gedmatch-results-of-a-Turkish-Y%F6r%FCk-Guy-From-Antalya
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?221304-MDLP-K23-results-of-a-Western-Anatolian-Turk

and here's an actual study
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222766-A-Genetic-Study-on-16-Turks-from-Different-Parts-of-Turkey

now bugger off.

[Profileid]

I don't give a shit about 23andme. http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=41291 and he's from this thread it seems. 6.35% mongoloid, which means he's mixed (I suppose he's part Circassian or an unknown ethnicity)
here are Turks
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?224818-Western-Turks-GEDmatch-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?223578-GEDmatch-results-of-a-Turk-from-South-Eastern-Anatolia
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222693-Gedmatch-results-of-a-Turkish-Y%F6r%FCk-Guy-From-Antalya
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?221304-MDLP-K23-results-of-a-Western-Anatolian-Turk

and here's an actual study
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222766-A-Genetic-Study-on-16-Turks-from-Different-Parts-of-Turkey

now bugger off.

I'm reading. The vast majority of the DNA is non-turkic.

[Hudayar]

I'm reading. The vast majority of the DNA is non-turkic.

depends on what you call Turkic.
in the calculators the central asian ancestry is around 40-50% if we take Turkmens/Nogais as Central Asians. but the original Turkic, the mongoloid dna, is around 10-15% as i mentioned. but the Seljuk immigrants weren't even 100% mongoloid so there's no need to discuss this. it's like calling a Balkan Turk not Turkish.

[Profileid]

depends on what you call Turkic.
in the calculators the central asian ancestry is around 40-50% if we take Turkmens/Nogais as Central Asians. but the original Turkic, the mongoloid dna, is around 10-15% as i mentioned. but the Seljuk immigrants weren't even 100% mongoloid so there's no need to discuss this. it's like calling a Balkan Turk not Turkish.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.81
2 West_Asian 26.69
3 North_Atlantic 11.78
4 West_Med 9.92
5 Siberian 8.04
6 East_Asian 5.21
7 Red_Sea 4.53
8 Baltic 3.52
9 South_Asian 2.41
10 Oceanian 1.07
11 Amerindian 0.04

That's 82% non-mongoloid by my count

[Böri]

depends on what you call Turkic.
in the calculators the central asian ancestry is around 40-50% if we take Turkmens/Nogais as Central Asians. but the original Turkic, the mongoloid dna, is around 10-15% as i mentioned. but the Seljuk immigrants weren't even 100% mongoloid so there's no need to discuss this. it's like calling a Balkan Turk not Turkish.

Well even iron age Altaian samples had Europoid DNA. The area was racially mixed.
The N y-dna Pazyryk Scythian sample with the ice princess etc (2500 years ago) is autosomally circa 40% Caucasoid 60% Mongoloid.


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.81
2 West_Asian 26.69
3 North_Atlantic 11.78
4 West_Med 9.92
5 Siberian 8.04
6 East_Asian 5.21
7 Red_Sea 4.53
8 Baltic 3.52
9 South_Asian 2.41
10 Oceanian 1.07
11 Amerindian 0.04

That's 82% non-mongoloid by my count

That person would cluster with Turkmens, Azerbaijanis, Turkic North Caucasians before Levantines etc. That makes the person genetically very very Turkic.

[Profileid]

Well even iron age Altaian samples had Europoid DNA. The area was racially mixed.
The N y-dna Pazyryk Scythian sample with the ice princess etc (2500 years ago) is autosomally circa 40% Caucasoid 60% Mongoloid.



That person would cluster with Turkmens, Azerbaijanis, Turkic North Caucasians before Levantines etc. That makes the person genetically very very Turkic.

So they cluster with other middle easterners? Wow.

[Babak]

To put it in basic terms, Anatolian turks are a mix of Turkmens and native anatolians.

[Hudayar]

Well even iron age Altaian samples had Europoid DNA. The area was racially mixed.
The N y-dna Pazyryk Scythian sample with the ice princess etc (2500 years ago) is autosomally circa 40% Caucasoid 60% Mongoloid.



That person would cluster with Turkmens, Azerbaijanis, Turkic North Caucasians before Levantines etc. That makes the person genetically very very Turkic.

i meant to say "original turkic" as in Yakut. not Central Asian. Forgot to elaborate it.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

True. Real ancestors of Real Turks were Turkmen looking people, before modern Turks (Oghuz tribes) invaded Anatolia.

[Böri]

i meant to say "original turkic" as in Yakut. not Central Asian. Forgot to elaborate it.

Yakuts were long thought as original Turks but this can be discussed.
They immigrated north during 12th century as a result of Mongolian pressure (Liao, Karakhitay etc.).

Their language isn't pure Turkic, it's uncommon due to heavy Mongolic, Tungusic and Samoyedic influences.
You must think of original Turks as more like Altaians or Tuvinians. It's also in that area the Turkic ethnogenesis happened.
Altaians speak a purer Turkic.

Altaians also hold the original Tengrist religion, while Sakhas/Yakuts are more animistic influenced too in their paganism as a result of intermingling with Samoyedic people.

It's like a snowball the situation of Turks until here.
Oghuz Turks were proto-Turks + west Central Asians.
Anatolian Turks are Oghuz with native Anatolian influences.



So they cluster with other middle easterners? Wow.

I wouldn't refer to Nogays, Kumyks, Karachays and Central Asian Turkmens as Middle Easterners.

[Pahli]

https://i.giphy.com/media/aSTJbOerwCKqc/giphy.webp

[Fedora]

We're cousins

[Joso]

This thread is retard. Speaking similar languages doesn't mean that they are the same nationality, just like Flemish and Cape Coloureds, Portuguese and Mexicans, or Saudis and Maltese.

"Portuguese and Mexicans" :picard1:

[Bobby Martnen]

Durka durka

[Sora]

You jealous retard son of bitches! How dare you confuse us with "Spanish and Mexicans"! We're genetically 50% THE SAME! But you retards can't understand!

Here are some proofs of that we're the same nations/ethnicities:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eM4t_FEFTsY/WohEVxy9tsI/AAAAAAAAAVs/odvrj7VP-jkyUpG1libqTTTdzNlLeZ5wgCLcBGAs/s1600/column.png

A Turkish results from Aydin, Western Turkey:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.81
2 West_Asian 26.69
3 North_Atlantic 11.78
4 West_Med 9.92
5 Siberian 8.04
6 East_Asian 5.21
7 Red_Sea 4.53
8 Baltic 3.52
9 South_Asian 2.41
10 Oceanian 1.07
11 Amerindian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.28
2 Azeri 12.02
3 Turkmen 14.53
4 Kurdish 17.59
5 Lebanese_Muslim 17.93
6 Armenian 17.99
7 Assyrian 18.14
8 Georgian_Jewish 18.27
9 Iranian 18.46
10 Kumyk 18.66
11 Syrian 18.88
12 Central_Greek 18.95
13 South_Italian 19.34
14 East_Sicilian 19.43
15 Italian_Abruzzo 19.65
16 Iranian_Jewish 19.78
17 Nogay 19.85
18 Cyprian 19.86
19 Kurdish_Jewish 20.03
20 Sephardic_Jewish 20.2


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
6 59% Turkmen + 41% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.23
10 61.7% Turkmen + 38.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.55
16 53.6% Nogay + 46.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.74

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Turkmen @ 6.514019

[itilvolga]

True, we are brothers in bone. Also not only genetically; culturally, mentally and historically. Nice to see that they also have same feelings with us :) Azerbaijan has also same feelings, Oghuz Turks are done, we just need Gagauzians...

[Philo]

Durka durka

That's my motto you sumbitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIlG9aSMCpg

[Georgia]

Kazakhs,Uzbeks,Azeris,Tatars,Chinese Uighurs,Turkmens and Anatolian Turks speak related languages that belong to the Turkic family,have some cultural similarities and share common ancestry from the same gene pool.