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Anglojew
03-17-2017, 01:35 PM
Please classify the members of Israel's almost solely American-Jewish baseball team;

Pitchers

19 Dylan Axelrod

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/zYIrHTPcKnetbeibjZXsFg/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPTc1O3c9NjAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/dylan-axelrod-baseball-headshot-photo.jpg

38 Corey Baker

http://www.milb.com/images/607452/t279/180x270/607452.jpg

27 Jeremy Bleich

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jeremy+Bleich+Pittsburgh+Pirates+Photo+Day+fBucdm2 mYHQl.jpg

54 Richard Bleier

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Qb9wM78Yw0UHTGq-5DKZYSQ4fjI=/0x285:3456x2589/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49715983/usa-today-9149019.0.jpg

32 Craig Breslow

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/16/03/17/3683312/3/628x471.jpg

41 Danny Burawa

http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2014/17/1a6c5f3b12ec63b17a487d76ef72024c9dcfe2ed.jpg

39 Jake Fishman

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/690524827669680128/05VpJvzM.jpg


33 Tyler Herron

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/patriots/files/2015/04/Tyler-Herron.jpg


35 Jake Kalish

http://www.milb.com/images/592455/t426/180x270/592455.jpg

25 Alex Katz

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3627624.1332944753!/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/display_960/image.JPG


4 Kenny Koplove

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/400/DN/DNNBVXOYSBEQMBT.20141024142532.jpg


17 Dean Kremer

https://www.baseball.org.il/images/SNT/Dean.jpg


26 Jared Lakind

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/592481.jpg

21 Jason Marquis

http://www.jewishbaseballnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/marquis-israel-jersey.jpg

44 Troy Neiman

https://www.baseball.org.il/images/Troy.jpg

16 R.C. Orlan

http://photos.digitalsports.com/1772016/P1290311_fullview.jpg

72 Ryan Sherriff

https://ssl.gannett-cdn.com/usatsimg/image/thumb/650-510nw/9907327.jpg

46 Zack Thornton

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Hfyrzh1VqfjTA2YJ0qhbBCZF4E8=/0x744:2807x2615/1200x800/filters:focal(0x744:2807x2615)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/31840427/470947023.0.jpg

6 Joey Wagman

http://imgix.scout.com/136/1365726.jpg

28 Josh Zeid

http://sportsnola.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zeid_astros_mug.jpg

Anglojew
03-17-2017, 01:35 PM
Catchers

9 Nick Rickles

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L7epreHJ9I4/maxresdefault.jpg

36 Ryan Lavarnway

https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/1A10RsrGSySnDFY0bN0B

Infielders

5 Scott Burcham

http://www.milb.com/images/664883/t573/180x270/664883.jpg


14 Cody Decker

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/572804.jpg


22 Tyler Krieger

http://www.milb.com/images/623513/t437/180x270/623513.jpg


45 Nate Freiman

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/474384.jpg

29 Ike Davis

http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Ike+Davis+New+York+Mets+Photo+Day+0EDFYvgyvSSl.jpg


56 Ty Kelly

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ty+Kelly+gaREy3qn76Wm.jpg

Outfielders

18 Zach Borenstein

https://www.baseball.org.il/images/P1320310.jpg

23 Sam Fuld

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Oakland+Athletics+Photo+Day+NGuyiF6UL_jl.jpg

2 Blake Gailen

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eQ53G1T3Bxs/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABE/pU7-PRGKFY8/photo.jpg

MysteriousWays
03-17-2017, 02:32 PM
Lots of people here, so not going to classify each individual. I'll focus on general trends.

First, to me, they pass best in France, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria as a group. Their overall phenotypes trend more those typical in Central Europe, towards slightly southern Europe. In terms of phenotypes, I'd say most common blends are Atlanto-Med with minor Alpine maybe, Atlanto-Med with Dinarid, and Alpine-Dinarid (towards Dinarid). I'm wondering if a couple are either not Ashkenazi or are mixed (Kelly, Burcham, and Orlan in particular). Some also have some degree of Taurid influence (hard for me to say to what degree either Armenoid or Dinarid).

Tellerin
03-17-2017, 03:50 PM
38 Corey Baker
Mediterranid+Taurid

54 Richard Bleier
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Probably one of the parrents is Paleo Atlantid wnd the other is Small Med

32 Craig Breslow
Mizrahi מזרחים
Huns looking
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Huns 400-500 AD or Hunno-Bulgars[more precisely the Blak Bulgarians - Kutriguri] 500-700 AD - Europoid Mongoloid mix
[White Bulgarians are Onogurs and then Tatars]
R1a Z-2123

41 Danny Burawa
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
North Pontid - Armenoid
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Bulgars-Utigurs

33 Tyler Herron
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Sarmatian Alans
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R1a Z-2122

25 Alex Katz
Mizrahi מזרחים
Mountain Jews יהודי קווקז
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Bulgars-Utigurs
Van-Bulgars

17 Dean Kremer
Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

26 Jared Lakind
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Central Asiatic

21 Jason Marquis
Mizrahi מזרחים
South East Caucasus - Front Asiatic

44 Troy Neiman
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Red Nordid - Taurid

16 R.C. Orlan
Sephardic
Persian Jews
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Tatars

72 Ryan Sherriff
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
South Caucasus

46 Zack Thornton
Pontid+Oriental
Sephardic
-------------
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
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common today Bulgaria

6 Joey Wagman
Sephardic distant
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid[distant oriental]

28 Josh Zeid
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Asiatic

9 Nick Rickles
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Central Asiatic
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common today Tatarstan Tatars
common today Bulgaria
R1a Z-2123

36 Ryan Lavarnway
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic

14 Cody Decker
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Asiatic

22 Tyler Krieger
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Sephardic early Cohen - distant
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Sarmatian Roxolan
3 of the East Slavic tribes - South Russia Ukraina
Rumania
R1a Z-280

45 Nate Freiman
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Asiatic

29 Ike Davis
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
Pontoid-Caucasiod-Front Asiatic +
Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

56 Ty Kelly
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
predominant
Atlantid-Ladogan[Finno-Ugrian]-Taurid
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subdominant
Caucasoid-Pontoid

18 Zach Borenstein
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Red Nordid - Taurid

23 Sam Fuld
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
North Pontid


2 Blake Gailen
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Nordo-Cromagnoid
Nord Pontid - Falid
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Irano-Nordid
Cromagnoid D

Anglojew
03-18-2017, 04:12 AM
Lots of people here, so not going to classify each individual. I'll focus on general trends.

First, to me, they pass best in France, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria as a group. Their overall phenotypes trend more those typical in Central Europe, towards slightly southern Europe. In terms of phenotypes, I'd say most common blends are Atlanto-Med with minor Alpine maybe, Atlanto-Med with Dinarid, and Alpine-Dinarid (towards Dinarid). I'm wondering if a couple are either not Ashkenazi or are mixed (Kelly, Burcham, and Orlan in particular). Some also have some degree of Taurid influence (hard for me to say to what degree either Armenoid or Dinarid).

Yes, only a couple eg Bleich, R.C. Orlan look specifically "Jewish."

Many are mixed eg Kelly etc reflecting the fact 75% of non-Orthodox Jews now marry a non-Jewish spouse in America (with the majority of their children maintaining some Jewish identity).

About half have blue eyes (about average, or a little above the average, for Ashkenazi Jews in my experience) & don't look specifically "ethnic" although I agree with you that they tend towards looking Central European. I'd say that many still retain some "exotic" features compared to your average non-Jewish Central European (convex nose shape etc) but most are white by even the strictest taxonomic measure although Scott Burcham looks mixed-race.

Anglojew
03-18-2017, 04:18 AM
38 Corey Baker
Mediterranid+Taurid

54 Richard Bleier
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Probably one of the parrents is Paleo Atlantid wnd the other is Small Med

32 Craig Breslow
Mizrahi מזרחים
Huns looking
-------------
Huns 400-500 AD or Hunno-Bulgars[more precisely the Blak Bulgarians - Kutriguri] 500-700 AD - Europoid Mongoloid mix
[White Bulgarians are Onogurs and then Tatars]
R1a Z-2123

41 Danny Burawa
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
North Pontid - Armenoid
-------------
Bulgars-Utigurs

33 Tyler Herron
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Sarmatian Alans
-------------
R1a Z-2122

25 Alex Katz
Mizrahi מזרחים
Mountain Jews יהודי קווקז
-------------
Bulgars-Utigurs
Van-Bulgars

17 Dean Kremer
Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

26 Jared Lakind
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Central Asiatic

21 Jason Marquis
Mizrahi מזרחים
South East Caucasus - Front Asiatic

44 Troy Neiman
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Red Nordid - Taurid

16 R.C. Orlan
Sephardic
Persian Jews
-------------
Tatars

72 Ryan Sherriff
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
South Caucasus

46 Zack Thornton
Pontid+Oriental
Sephardic
-------------
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
-------------
common today Bulgaria

6 Joey Wagman
Sephardic distant
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid[distant oriental]

28 Josh Zeid
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Asiatic

9 Nick Rickles
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic - Front Central Asiatic
-------------
common today Tatarstan Tatars
common today Bulgaria
R1a Z-2123

36 Ryan Lavarnway
Mizrahi מזרחים
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Pontoid - Caucasoic

14 Cody Decker
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Asiatic

22 Tyler Krieger
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Sephardic early Cohen - distant
-------------
Sarmatian Roxolan
3 of the East Slavic tribes - South Russia Ukraina
Rumania
R1a Z-280

45 Nate Freiman
Mizrahi מזרחים
Front Asiatic

29 Ike Davis
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
Pontoid-Caucasiod-Front Asiatic +
Russia South-East Upper Don-Sur-Oka rivers
one of the three types that create the North Pontid blend

56 Ty Kelly
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Mizrahi מזרחים
predominant
Atlantid-Ladogan[Finno-Ugrian]-Taurid
-------------
subdominant
Caucasoid-Pontoid

18 Zach Borenstein
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Red Nordid - Taurid

23 Sam Fuld
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
North Pontid


2 Blake Gailen
Ashkenazi אשכנזי
Nordo-Cromagnoid
Nord Pontid - Falid
-------------
Irano-Nordid
Cromagnoid D

Well done.

Zach Borenstein does look East Nordid.

http://www.melanielynnen.com/uploads/2/0/9/2/20923100/2119197_orig.jpg

Many are tall with Nate Freiman 2.03cm the tallest.