Post your CHG scores

[Hadouken]

post your Caucasus Hunter Gatherer numbers from these calculators (from GedrosiaDNA and Puntdnal):

Eurasia K10 CHG

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF

Puntndnal K15

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my results

Eurasia K10 CHG - 42.13

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF - 42.27

Puntdnal K15

# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 42.94

post yours


Georgian Waterpolo Player Petre Mshvenieradze would be proud of this thread . CHG BEAST MODE ON

https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/amLggG6_700b.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EIam6SW.jpg

[War Chef]

CHG 32.72


Let us skull fuck these Euro-Cunts dry..... teach them the way of the mountain

[Rethel]

It would be good if everyone would add
to the results an own photo, like All-In did.

[Hadouken]

It would be good if everyone would add
to the results an own photo, like All-In did.

yes it would be nice but it is not a must . a CHG beast mode is more about your heart than anything else . just like andid love

[War Chef]

It would be good if everyone would add
to the results an own photo, like All-In did.

rough & ready go

http://i.imgur.com/avnBeGx.jpg

[Mortimer]

Euroasia K10 CHG 25.21
Euroasia K11 CHG-NAF 26.06

[Hadouken]

Euroasia K10 CHG 25.21
Euroasia K11 CHG-NAF 26.06

https://media.giphy.com/media/S3Ot3hZ5bcy8o/giphy.gif

[de Burgh II]

Eurasia K10 CHG- CHG 17.92

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF- Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 17.13

[frankhammer]

Eurasia K10 CHG- CHG 20.94

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF- Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 21.28

[Petalpusher]

K10 CHG : 19.21

K11 CHG : 21.76



K11 has a Kalash component which is either lowering or inflating the CHG, depending on the Kalash score (Less Kalash> more CHG, and inversely). K10 is imo more reliable.

[Rius]

K10 CHG : 33.43

K11 CHG : 25.69

[Tchek]

K10 CHG 20.18

K11 CHG 18.89

[Ylla]

K10: 23.85

K11: 25.85

[The Illyrian Warrior]

K10: CHG 25.30%

K11: CHG 29.17%

[DRUM]

K10: 24,58

K11: 26,89

[Deniz]

K10
CHG 26.58
K11
CHG 24.03

[Pahli]

K10: 45.99

K11: 43.09

[firemonkey]

Just using FTDNA.

Me.

Euroasia K10 CHG 17.34
Euroasia K11 CHG-NAF 17.60

Father

Euroasia K10 CHG 21.15
Euroasia K11 CHG-NAF 16.38

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Eurasia K10 CHG - 20.56

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF - 21.96

[Rethel]

Sorry people, but without phenotypes
and additional components these results
are meaningless. Simply some numbers,
saying almost nothing.

[Kriptc06]

K10 CHG 15.72

K11 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 15.08

[Peterski]

Eurasia K10: my CHG is 21.74 (23andMe format) or 21.71 (FTDNA format)
Eurasia K11: my CHG is 13.36 (23andMe format) or 13.41 (FTDNA format)

Interesting, why such a big difference? Kalash doesn't explain this.

I will post my full Admixture results below (any explanations?):

1) 23andMe format:

Eurasia K10:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 41.57
2 CHG 21.74
3 EHG 16.16
4 Anatolian_Farmers 15.23
5 SW_Asian 4.35
6 Amerindian 0.76
7 Papuan 0.19

Eurasia K11:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 38.73
2 Neolthic_Anatolian_Farmer 21.89
3 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 17.76
4 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 13.36
5 E_African 3.96
6 Kalash 3.77
7 Papuan 0.44
8 W_African 0.09

2) FTDNA format:

Eurasia K10:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 41.56
2 CHG 21.71
3 EHG 16.18
4 Anatolian_Farmers 15.25
5 SW_Asian 4.34
6 Amerindian 0.77
7 Papuan 0.18

Eurasia K11:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 38.72
2 Neolthic_Anatolian_Farmer 21.9
3 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 17.81
4 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 13.41
5 E_African 3.93
6 Kalash 3.72
7 Papuan 0.37
8 W_African 0.12

===========================

23andMe format = my FTDNA raw data converted by DNA Land.

I downloaded that converted file, and uploaded it to GEDmatch.

[Petalpusher]

Eurasia K10: my CHG is 21.74 (23andMe format) or 21.71 (FTDNA format)
Eurasia K11: my CHG is 13.36 (23andMe format) or 13.41 (FTDNA format)

Interesting, why such a big difference? Kalash doesn't explain this.

I will post my full Admixture results below (any explanations?):

1) 23andMe format:

Eurasia K10:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 41.57
2 CHG 21.74
3 EHG 16.16
4 Anatolian_Farmers 15.23
5 SW_Asian 4.35
6 Amerindian 0.76
7 Papuan 0.19

Eurasia K11:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 38.73
2 Neolthic_Anatolian_Farmer 21.89
3 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 17.76
4 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 13.36
5 E_African 3.96
6 Kalash 3.77
7 Papuan 0.44
8 W_African 0.09

2) FTDNA format:

Eurasia K10:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 41.56
2 CHG 21.71
3 EHG 16.18
4 Anatolian_Farmers 15.25
5 SW_Asian 4.34
6 Amerindian 0.77
7 Papuan 0.18

Eurasia K11:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 38.72
2 Neolthic_Anatolian_Farmer 21.9
3 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 17.81
4 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 13.41
5 E_African 3.93
6 Kalash 3.72
7 Papuan 0.37
8 W_African 0.12

===========================

23andMe format = my FTDNA raw data converted by DNA Land.

I downloaded that converted file, and uploaded it to GEDmatch.

(replying your pm here).

A part is due to Kalash (not ideal component for Europeans), also surely some recombination between the NAF and CHG (the basal part) as your NAF score increased in K11. It shows how changing the K can really alter the score of everything, specially when some element are a mix of two things (chg=ane+basal, naf= whg+basal)

[Hadouken]

I forgot to add Puntdnal K15 :( it also has a Caucasus score

mine :


# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 42.94

[Kriptc06]

I forgot to add Puntdnal K15 :( it also has a Caucasus score

mine :


# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 42.94

Mine:

Caucasian 8.03

[Hadouken]

Mine:

Caucasian 8.03

why is it so much less than in the other calcs in your case ? weird . all 3 calcs give roughly the same number for me

[War Chef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eDygS7zG0

[Kriptc06]

why is it so much less than in the other calcs in your case ? weird . all 3 calcs give roughly the same number for me

good question, here it is the full results:
# Population Percent
1 NE_European 31.06
2 Mediterranean 27.57
3 Amerindian 11.16
4 W_African 10.15
5 Caucasian 8.03
6 SW_Asian 6.13
7 Horn_Of_Africa 2.88
8 Beringian 1.34
9 S_Indian 1.07
10 Oceanian 0.53
11 S_African 0.08

[jingorex]

K10

CHG 21.75
Amerindian 2.05
W_African -
Papuan 0.33
SW_Asian 4.44
S_Indian -
E_Asian -
WHG 39.69
Anatolian_Farmers 19.75
EHG 11.9

K11

# Population Percent
1 WHG 38.02
2 Neolthic_Anatolian_Farmer 20.85
3 Caucuses_Hunter_Gatherer 17.57
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 13.34
5 Kalash 4.66
6 Amerindian 2.33
7 Papuan 2.2
8 S_Indian 1.02

photo

http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w449/dogbiscuits/IMG_0076%20-%20Copy_zpskiqsmfcp.jpg

[Lucas]

Eurasia K10 CHG - 19.36
Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF - 22,41

Comparing to my compatriot Litvin. I have little less CHG in K10 but much more in K11. Strange.

Puntdnal K15 - only 6.51 (?)

[Linebacker]

All of it probably.

CHG and EHG will be so stronk it will break the lab machines and they will sue me.

[Hadouken]

All of it probably.

CHG and EHG will be so stronk it will break the lab machines and they will sue me.

thats the spirit I wanna see my bulgarian bro

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Does anyone has any idea how CHG might looked like, for WHG we superficially know something how they may looked like but for CHG I barely get any info.

[Linebacker]

Does anyone has any idea how CHG might looked like, for WHG we superficially know something how they may looked like but for CHG I barely get any info.

Modern Chechens

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*NLu0utKwXBzFFWgAdUCpsg.jpeg

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Modern Chechens

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*NLu0utKwXBzFFWgAdUCpsg.jpeg

How much they score, anyone knows this?

[Petalpusher]

The closest thing today ethnically, is an intermediate between Azeri and Turkmen, or Tadjik+Iranian.

In IBD this is more Armenians, Georgians, Abkhasians etc.. they are high on it but nobody is 100% CHG.

http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1511/96/6a5d57f4d459.png

[user_]

Georgians have the highest CHG.

[Coolguy1]

22.87 Caucasian on puntdnal k15

[The Illyrian Warrior]

The closest thing today ethnically, is an intermediate between Azeri and Turkmen, or Tadjik+Iranian.

In IBD this is more Armenians, Georgians, Abkhasians etc.. they are high on it but nobody is 100% CHG.

http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1511/96/6a5d57f4d459.png

Has anyone made a face reconstruction from Georgia CHG remains yet or they are too damaged to make one?

[Petalpusher]

K10 CHG, top 10 peaks:


Brahui 56.66
Abkhasian 56.62
Georgian 56.14
Balochi 55.85
Makrani 55.74
Azeri_Dagestan 50.75
Adygei 49.00
Chechen 48.85
Armenia 48.08
Georgian_Jew 47.37



Has anyone made a face reconstruction from Georgia CHG remains yet or they are too damaged to make one?

I think the best they have is a temporal bone.

edit :
Recent excavations of Satsurblia cave in Western Georgia yielded a human right temporal bone, dated to the Late Upper Palaeolithic 13,132–13,380 cal. BP
http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms9912

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I think the best they have is a temporal bone.

Yep, looks in pretty fucked up shape.
http://i68.tinypic.com/rhn8d5.jpg

[Nehellenia]

Eurasia K10 CHG 19.59

Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF 17.38

Puntndnal K15 9.38

[Petalpusher]

why is it so much less than in the other calcs in your case ? weird . all 3 calcs give roughly the same number for me

"Caucasian" is based on modern Caucasus, CHG is 13 000 years old, it's not the same thing but for some the score can be similar. Europeans share more of the late up paleo ancestry but not much with actual Caucasians, so it drops a lot.

[Petalpusher]

While im at it, i was looking for that interesting map showing the shift in population either more WC1 which is Iran_N or Zagros farmer (close to CHG) and Bar8 which is Barcin Anatolia_N (close to LBK)

https://s14.postimg.org/balcdrevl/Zagros_farmer_WC1.png


The reason the caucasus doesn't look that high with a smaller circle, is they have both, yet still a little WC1 shifted.

[firemonkey]

puntDNAL K15: 8.03
My father: 8.11

[Hadouken]

le bump