HG vs Farmers

[Drawing-slim]

Why is everyone on TA desperately trying to be full HG while totally denying and looking down on farmers?!
Farming rules. Even to this day farming is superior to hunters and modern day stock market traders authors artists and businessmen.

[Drawing-slim]

I mean even the most successful men in the world today are eagerly going back to farming. In northwest america many billionaires and multi-millionaires have gone back to simple beautiful life of farming and reporting being happier than they have ever been.

[Peterski]

All humans used to be hunter-gatherers.

[Ujku]

Why is everyone on TA desperately trying to be full HG while totally denying and looking down on farmers?!
Farming rules. Even to this day farming is superior to hunters and modern day stock market traders authors artists and businessmen.

You are I2a1b?? I don't know much about genetics but isn't that slavic?? Atleast abubu claims it to be.

[Kelmendasi]

Hunter gatherers are the natives but the Neolithic farmer gave us the allele for white pigmentation or at least this is what I read

[Drawing-slim]

You are I2a1b?? I don't know much about genetics but isn't that slavic?? Atleast abubu claims it to be.

Yes, herr abubu happens to be right only this time, less than a broken clock average. My first paternal ancestor was in battle on the side of slav invadors when he witnessed a massacre done to a albanian gheg farmer, then he turned around and killed all his slav comrades. Then he was accepted as honorable gheg so 1300 years later here i am:cool:

[Ujku]

Yes, herr abubu happens to be right only this time, less than a broken clock average. My first paternal ancestor was in battle on the side of slav invadors when he witnessed a massacre done to a albanian gheg farmer, then he turned around and killed all his slav comrades. Then he was accepted as honorable gheg so 1300 years later here i am:cool:

lol you're gheg?? According to abubu it can be found only among tosks..

But yeah , 1300 years or even 1000 is a LONG time .. you differ nothing from the ev-13 or j2 Albanians..

Also i saw on a genetics map that I2a1b picks on modern Bosnia and Croatia , could it be because of the Illyrian connection?? Or the I2a1b came to the Balkans long after that?

[Kelmendasi]

lol you're gheg?? According to abubu it can be found only among tosks..

But yeah , 1300 years or even 1000 is a LONG time .. you differ nothing from the ev-13 or j2 Albanians..

Also i saw on a genetics map that I2a1b picks on modern Bosnia and Croatia , could it be because of the Illyrian connection?? Or the I2a1b came to the Balkans long after that?
Nah man I2a-Din is found among Ghegs too but at a smaller percentage than Tosks, It's not an Illyrian connection but it is Slavic

[Ujku]

Nah man I2a-Din is found among Ghegs too but at a smaller percentage than Tosks, It's not an Illyrian connection but it is Slavic

What I'm not getting is that , since there were/are so many places with Slavic names there must have been significant Slavic populations on those regions. My question is where did those people go?? There is no way they were assimilated since Albanians Were not that many.. One thing that might explain it, is that they wanted to be assimilated because they admired Albanians because as we all know we were/are some tough motherfuckers.

On the other hand , Slavic speaking people in Greece could be found even the late 1800s.

I guess we will never know for sure..

[Kelmendasi]

What I'm not getting is that , since there were/are so many places with Slavic names there must have been significant Slavic populations on those regions. My question is where did those people go?? There is no way they were assimilated since Albanians Were not that many.. One thing that might explain it, is that they wanted to be assimilated because they admired Albanians because as we all know we were/are some tough motherfuckers.

On the other hand , Slavic speaking people in Greece could be found even the late 1800s.

I guess we will never know for sure..
Probably was that they wanted to assimilate into us lol

[EL_BARBARO]

Indians vs settlers?

[Ujku]

Probably was that they wanted to assimilate into us lol

Jokes aside , That's actually very possible..

[Drawing-slim]

lol you're gheg?? According to abubu it can be found only among tosks..

But yeah , 1300 years or even 1000 is a LONG time .. you differ nothing from the ev-13 or j2 Albanians..

Also i saw on a genetics map that I2a1b picks on modern Bosnia and Croatia , could it be because of the Illyrian connection?? Or the I2a1b came to the Balkans long after that?
No worries about the I2a albos, whether tosk or gheg I2a's. What you need to understand is very simple.
All "I" carriers left africa about 10k-15k years before the E-v13 and J2 native balkanites which would be majority of ghegs.
So basically what this means in simple terms, I2a albos are fully blooded illyrians cuz they lived and mixed in full scale with albos for at least the last 500-1000 years.
So in simple terms, I2a albos are new york city citizens who joined and mixed with montana & alaska moutain men hunters, the latter being the ancient ghegs. So basically we helped albo hunters survive the modern day opressors by joining forces and becoming one body with them. Was that clear?

[Ujku]

No worries about the I2a albos, whether tosk or gheg I2a's. What you need to understand is very simple.
All "I" carriers left africa about 10k-15k years before the E-v13 and J2 native balkanites which would be majority of ghegs.
So basically what this means in simple terms, I2a albos are fully blooded illyrians cuz they lived and mixed in full scale with albos for at least the last 500-1000 years.
So in simple terms, I2a albos are new york city citizens who joined and mixed with montana & alaska moutain men hunters, the latter being the ancient ghegs. So basically we helped albo hunters survive the modern day opressors by joining forces and becoming one body with them. Was that clear?

Well , that would make sense if I2a is native to Balkans and not brought by Slavs like the other guys claim.
Personally i have not done any test yet , Someday i will for sure.

[Drawing-slim]

Well , that would make sense if I2a is native to Balkans and not brought by Slavs like the other guys claim.
Personally i have not done any test yet , Someday i will for sure.
No, this still doesn't make I2a's native to balkans, they're in fact newcomers to balkans, but it does make them more native to any land outside of Africa comparatively to native balkanites who left africa 10k after the "l" carriers.

[Ujku]

No, this still doesn't make I2a's native to balkans, they're in fact newcomers to balkans, but it does make them more native to any land outside of Africa comparatively to native balkanites who left africa 10k after the "l" carriers.

What's important is the settlement of the Balkans , Everything else has nothing to do with Albanians .

[Linebacker]

Because:

Hunter-Gatherers:

http://primoclipart.com/files/preview/big/121/Caveman%20Clip%20Art.jpg

Farmer:

http://lindsaywhitlow.weebly.com/uploads/5/1/9/8/51984815/9062740_orig.jpg

[Drawing-slim]

Because:

Hunter-Gatherers:

http://primoclipart.com/files/preview/big/121/Caveman%20Clip%20Art.jpg

Farmer:

http://lindsaywhitlow.weebly.com/uploads/5/1/9/8/51984815/9062740_orig.jpg
Exactly. So who is more superior? The hunter will never know what a good home cooked meal tastes like the farmer does. Nor a vegetable salad. Not fruit milk etc. The farmer is so superior in comparison he can domesticate the hunter gatherer just like he domesticated the dog.
That being said i think i score more hunter getherer than average south euro/balkanite,lol

[Not a Cop]

What I'm not getting is that , since there were/are so many places with Slavic names there must have been significant Slavic populations on those regions. My question is where did those people go?? There is no way they were assimilated since Albanians Were not that many.. One thing that might explain it, is that they wanted to be assimilated because they admired Albanians because as we all know we were/are some tough motherfuckers.

On the other hand , Slavic speaking people in Greece could be found even the late 1800s.

I guess we will never know for sure..

Probably by the time Slavs step on Albo land they were not Russians\Poles genetically, but something significantly native admixed.

[Danaan]

Pirates. Then traders.

[Dick]

Because:

Hunter-Gatherers:

http://primoclipart.com/files/preview/big/121/Caveman%20Clip%20Art.jpg

Farmer:

http://lindsaywhitlow.weebly.com/uploads/5/1/9/8/51984815/9062740_orig.jpg

Anthrotard stereotype. I don't know what farmers look like in Europe but the ones here are far from scrawny graciloids

[Danaan]

Farmers
https://i0.wp.com/www.pappaspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/22.jpg?w=702
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M518QhE1Unk/hqdefault.jpg

Hunter Gatherers
http://answersafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Cool-San-Man.jpg

[DarknessWin]

Who say that?? I want to be Farmer. They were clever ,stronger and they create civilization and armies

[Wrong]

If you look at the physiques of the remaining hunter-gatherer societies, I'd rather want to be a farmer then.

[DarknessWin]

Because:

Hunter-Gatherers:

http://primoclipart.com/files/preview/big/121/Caveman%20Clip%20Art.jpg

Farmer:

http://lindsaywhitlow.weebly.com/uploads/5/1/9/8/51984815/9062740_orig.jpg

You are 12 old kid or something ??
Farmers were taller and stronger because of more Testosterone from their diet.
Also farmers were the first with white skin when Hunters were short black mongoloids

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-28_oixJgcTA/VAWP0HRdqXI/AAAAAAAAAYM/D6vfAYrCQNI/s1600/Hunter_Farmer_Phenotypes.png

from all the warriors in know the stronger one's were the farmers like Spartans and Vikings

[DarknessWin]

Farmers
https://i0.wp.com/www.pappaspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/22.jpg?w=702
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M518QhE1Unk/hqdefault.jpg

Hunter Gatherers
http://answersafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Cool-San-Man.jpg

BIG TRUE

[Wrong]

Farming requires strong hands and body. It's hard work.

[DarknessWin]

Exactly. So who is more superior? The hunter will never know what a good home cooked meal tastes like the farmer does. Nor a vegetable salad. Not fruit milk etc. The farmer is so superior in comparison he can domesticate the hunter gatherer just like he domesticated the dog.
That being said i think i score more hunter getherer than average south euro/balkanite,lol

He mean that hunters were stronger in their bodies, this is BULLSHIT.
Actually Farmers were more active and they had stronger physical body and taller and they were not weak from nutritional unbalances like hunters

If you see the Hunter Gatherers of Africa they are like monkies , very weak body and slenter from famine

[jingorex]

scientific studies say they lived side by side for 2000 + years and never had sex.

i think science is wrong.

http://www.livescience.com/40332-genetics-of-european-farmers.html

edit: what is the best GEDmatch test to determine HG or Farmer?

[Dick]

You are 12 old kid or something ??
Farmers were taller and stronger because of more Testosterone from their diet.
Also farmers were the first with white skin when Hunters were short black mongoloids

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-28_oixJgcTA/VAWP0HRdqXI/AAAAAAAAAYM/D6vfAYrCQNI/s1600/Hunter_Farmer_Phenotypes.png

from all the warriors in know the stronger one's were the farmers like Spartans and Vikings

Vikings were also cattle breeders and dairy farmers. They ate a lot of beef unlike scrawny indo european horse fuckers that ate rice from Asia.

[DarknessWin]

Farming requires strong hands and body. It's hard work.

All farming people are strong , also they have nutritional balance.
hunters were famished

We can compere farmers with hunters in their bodies like
Farmers = Sprinters with strong body
Hunters = long distance athletes with weak muscle

[Wrong]

All farming people are strong , also they have nutritional balance.
hunters were famished

We can compere farmers with hunters in their bodies like
Farmers = Sprinters with strong body
Hunters = long distance athletes with weak muscleHunter-Gatherers in action

http://media.new.mensxp.com/media/content/2016/Jun/stop-jogging-to-be-muscular-and-to-get-stronger2-1467202712.jpg

[DarknessWin]

Hunter-Gatherers in action

http://media.new.mensxp.com/media/content/2016/Jun/stop-jogging-to-be-muscular-and-to-get-stronger2-1467202712.jpg

exactly , they needed a body to cover long distance to find food.
They needed to be light weight and have endurance

On the other hand farmers needed stronger body to work in the farm and they had full nutrition in their diet.
Also they had more Testosterone from Mediterranean diet and Sun

[DarknessWin]

Vikings were also cattle breeders and dairy farmers. They ate a lot of beef unlike scrawny indo european horse fuckers that ate rice from Asia.

True , Eurasian Farmers were also breeders and ate a lot of goat meat and milk.
And Goat milk is the best milk for Bodybuilding and strong body

[Wrong]

True , Eurasian Farmers were also breeders and ate a lot of goat meat and milk.
And Goat milk is the best milk for Bodybuilding and strong bodyYes goat milk is underrated, same goes for goat cheese.

[DarknessWin]

Yes goat milk is underrated, same goes for goat cheese.

It is the best cheese and milk , i eat only dairy from goat after training

[Dick]

True , Eurasian Farmers were also breeders and ate a lot of goat meat and milk.
And Goat milk is the best milk for Bodybuilding and strong body

Goats milk is expensive to buy here too

[Wrong]

It is the best cheese and milk , i eat only dairy from goat after training
And no lactose in it, makes it the optimal choice for most people of the Mediterranean.

[jingorex]

i think its a construct.

farmers most definitely also hunted.

but did hunters, farm?

Hmmmm....

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcmF2iGsTGEFVL2/giphy.gif

[Dick]

i think its a construct.

farmers most definitely also hunted.

but did hunters, farm?

Hmmmm....

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcmF2iGsTGEFVL2/giphy.gif

HGs in europe became farmers, neolithic farmers were also hunters as well. All ancient humans were, only early neolithic farmers did both unlike WHG

[Dema]

Farmers were more civilized and more high tech, others were below them.

[DarknessWin]

http://media.withtank.com/ddf4013ebb.jpg

Hunter/Gatherers are COMING LOL

[Petalpusher]

the ancestor of Natufians were building cities in Jericho 14 000 years ago while our hunters were cursing squirrels. But let's say both had their up and downs, hunters had great art in the paleolithic, and bad ass lives.

[Ujku]

Farmers were more civilized and more high tech, others were below them.

Why are you insulting me in a reputation comment?

[de Burgh II]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/bd/65/51bd658ace9fe843c1a1b1ebdae3260d.jpg

Where do ya' want the po'taters me lord! :3