View Full Version : DNA testing services giving results which appear to be false
(visibly Amerindian woman is ~99% European)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeLjzV6eBU
(visibly white man is ~14% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XDKiO-i4Q
(visibly black woman is 3% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne_Ee8gchbE
So, anyone care to guess what's going on here? It seems like there are a number of possibilities. Some of these explanations might seem more likely than others.
*The DNA tests are giving inaccurate results because they are flawed or scientifically unsound (ie. missing or misattributing key genetic factors)
*The genetic factors which differ between races do not correlate strongly with physical appearance
*In some situations, the DNA testing companies make mistakes (ie. mixing up the samples or mail packages)
*DNA test results do not align with perceived race due race being a social construct and not a biological one
*Some people within DNA testing companies, or some people who influence those companies, are deliberately sending out inaccurate results in an attempt to undermine the apparent ability of DNA tests to identify race
*The people in these videos are lying about the results they received, perhaps for attention
Wrong
03-25-2017, 08:50 PM
No wonder 23andme asks you to fill in your ethnicity and information before the spit sample is processed.
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 08:51 PM
Nothing can beat this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV31xQpjPUI
Kim kardashian is half white american and scored more than 90% armenian
HAHAHA
Peterski
03-25-2017, 08:51 PM
Yes, in 1 / 100,000 cases it might happen.
But in 99,999 other cases the results are at least quite accurate.
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 08:52 PM
(visibly white man is ~14% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XDKiO-i4Q
He had posted his dna test recently, and it shows 100% european.
Craig Cobb was tested with a really bad one. He did a 2nd one and GOT 100% European
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 08:54 PM
Cobb's real dna results
Cobb said in March 2015 that a second DNA test found him Caucasian except for what he called a “3% Iberian thing.
http://s2.postimg.org/bi1zqfzft/Screen_Shot_2015-03-10_at_12.45.48_AM.png
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 08:56 PM
Nothing can beat this
[vieo=youtube;vV31xQpjPUI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV31xQpjPUI[/video]
Kim kardashian is half white american and scored more than 90% armenian
HAHAHA
Yh that is clearly retarded since she is half white lololololololololol
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 08:57 PM
My YDNA result could be either an error or someone else's but it could be mine. I have upgraded to Family finder as that will confirm if it's mine or not
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 08:58 PM
Yh that is clearly retarded since she is half white lololololololololol
and theres no such thing as armenian on any dna test
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:02 PM
and theres no such thing as armenian on any dna test
But yet again these results can be manipulated by the TV show producers. Still though that would mean that her Mother is 100% Native american for her to be 6% native and 94% Armenian lol.
Shah-Jehan
03-25-2017, 09:03 PM
That black girl's hawt.
jingorex
03-25-2017, 09:04 PM
i lost IQ point listening to that first video.
many of these videos are setup and fake
just like this one exposed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV31xQpjPUI
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:05 PM
many of these videos are setup and fake
Yh I agree. But some are just straight up errors
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:06 PM
The Kim K one is probably fake, her reaction to her being 96% Armenian was "That explains all the hair" hahahahahaha ffs
Yh I agree. But some are just straight up errors
chances for errors are really slim. Science seems to take seriously Ydna and autosomal tests. Now maybe some company does better job then other but how time goes on quality will only improve.
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:08 PM
No wonder 23andme asks you to fill in your ethnicity and information before the spit sample is processed.
They do this to lower the chances of mixing samples up with another one, I assume this why they ask about your ethnicity so they can spot the eventual errors more easily.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:09 PM
They do this to lower the chances of mixing samples up with another one, I assume this why they ask about your ethnicity so they can spot the eventual errors more easily.
Yh I agree with this
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 09:09 PM
But yet again these results can be manipulated by the TV show producers. Still though that would mean that her Mother is 100% Native american for her to be 6% native and 94% Armenian lol.
https://content1.promiflash.de/article-images/landscape1024/kris-jenner-1998-und-2015-r2.jpg
http://cdn-wpmsa.defymedia.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/04/young-kris-jenner-70s.jpg
I dont doubt that many americans would think Kris jenner fits well in cherokee tribes because read the comments hahaha
many people agree with the results
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:12 PM
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I dont doubt that many americans would think Kris jenner fits well in cherokee tribes because read the comments hahaha
many people agree with the results
Kim Kardashian says herself that she has Scottish ancestry. People should realize from the fact that the presenter say "94% Armenian" that this is fake lol
My YDNA result could be either an error or someone else's but it could be mine. I have upgraded to Family finder as that will confirm if it's mine or not
Your results are in. Sorry bro but you're adopted.
cosmoo
03-25-2017, 09:14 PM
So, anyone care to guess what's going on here? It seems like there are a number of possibilities. Some of these explanations might seem more likely than others.
*The DNA tests are giving inaccurate results because they are flawed or scientifically unsound (ie. missing or misattributing key genetic factors)
That's what I was talking about the whole time. Those results you posted are just tip of the iceberg of totally false "genetic composition" results. I think the case is either that those "autosomal" tests are still in their earliest phases of infancy, or the first explanation you posted.
Not only "genetic" results often don't match physical traits, but they don't match most of the time.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:15 PM
Sorry bro but you're adopted.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL. I might say this to the admins so that I can get free BigY lol;). Anyways are you I1-L22?
Enflamme
03-25-2017, 09:15 PM
(visibly Amerindian woman is ~99% European)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeLjzV6eBU
(visibly white man is ~14% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XDKiO-i4Q
(visibly black woman is 3% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne_Ee8gchbE
So, anyone care to guess what's going on here? It seems like there are a number of possibilities. Some of these explanations might seem more likely than others.
*The DNA tests are giving inaccurate results because they are flawed or scientifically unsound (ie. missing or misattributing key genetic factors)
*The genetic factors which differ between races do not correlate strongly with physical appearance
*In some situations, the DNA testing companies make mistakes (ie. mixing up the samples or mail packages)
*DNA test results do not align with perceived race due race being a social construct and not a biological one
*Some people within DNA testing companies, or some people who influence those companies, are deliberately sending out inaccurate results in an attempt to undermine the apparent ability of DNA tests to identify race
*The people in these videos are lying about the results they received, perhaps for attention
The results of Cobb Finds are not false; they simply were deliberately distorted by the person, in the show, revealing the results. Indeed, as he say it in a forum (of himself), his true results indicate that he is 100% of European origin (or almost) with some origins of Southern Europe (if i remember well)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL. I might say this to the admins so that I can get free BigY lol;). Anyways are you I1-L22?
No. I1 - S2077
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:19 PM
One thing we learnt about these genetic test so far for Americans, is casting down entirely their claim of having native american, it barely shows any to anyone non hispanics.
The results of Cobb Finds are not false; they simply were deliberately distorted by the person, in the show, revealing the results. Indeed, as he say it in a forum (of himself), his true results indicate that he is 100% of European origin (or almost) with some origins of Southern Europe (if i remember well)
Yep they just make a show with fake results then they tell them later their real one. I mean its stupid as fuck i tryed watching it once and my iq went down after it.
Voskos
03-25-2017, 09:21 PM
No wonder 23andme asks you to fill in your ethnicity and information before the spit sample is processed.
which is why i didnt fill in the ethnicity survey where i tested
Heather Duval
03-25-2017, 09:23 PM
Kim Kardashian says herself that she has Scottish ancestry. People should realize from the fact that the presenter say "94% Armenian" that this is fake lol
her native american is false too, in that video she said "what?" and everyone knows that many white americans loves to claims such ethnicity, she was surprised of having any indigenous on her
Rethel
03-25-2017, 09:27 PM
False or not - why do this aDNA testing anyway? :picard2:
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:28 PM
No. I1 - S2077
So it's not Norse is it?
Shah-Jehan
03-25-2017, 09:29 PM
False or not - why do this aDNA testing anyway? :picard2:
How'd you find out your haplogroup if you didn't test :blink:
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:30 PM
How'd you find out your haplogroup if you didn't test :blink:
Ydna and Mtdna shows haplogroup, aDNA shows genetic make up
Shah-Jehan
03-25-2017, 09:30 PM
Ydna and Mtdna shows haplogroup, aDNA shows genetic make up
oh ok, I thought he meant DNA testing overall.
Rethel
03-25-2017, 09:31 PM
How'd you find out your haplogroup if you didn't test :blink:
I'll quote myself. Once agian: "False or not - why do this aDNA testing anyway?"
For knowing Y it is enuagh to make Y-test.
So it's not Norse is it?
No. My big y matchs with no snpa difference is a German from dusseldorf and a Dutch from frisia.
Rethel
03-25-2017, 09:34 PM
No. My big y matchs with no snpa difference is a German from dusseldorf and a Dutch from frisia.
CHFG - Continental Hunter-Farmer-Gatherer :)
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:35 PM
No. My big y matchs with no snpa difference is a German from dusseldorf and a Dutch from frisia.
Oh I see it's a Continental Germanic branch of I1 so probably Saxon or Angle. Anyways congrats on your haplo result, I1 is one of my favorite haplogroups tbh
Oh I see it's a Continental Germanic branch of I1 so probably Saxon or Angle. Anyways congrats on your haplo result, I1 is one of my favorite haplogroups tbh
Yeah that's what the admins say. I'm still looking for my real father though :dielaughing:
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 09:40 PM
Yeah that's what the admins say. I'm still looking for my real father though :dielaughing:
HAHAHAHAHAHA lololololololololol. It's actually really funny how you said that your adopted and now they give you free BigY
Antimage
03-25-2017, 09:41 PM
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The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:43 PM
Yeah that's what the admins say. I'm still looking for my real father though :dielaughing:
You serbs are really good on lying, I gotta give you that......Reminds me of Stefan, still can't believe how he fooled all us over until another serb exposed him. :D
Antimage
03-25-2017, 09:46 PM
(visibly Amerindian woman is ~99% European)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeLjzV6eBU
(visibly white man is ~14% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XDKiO-i4Q
(visibly black woman is 3% African)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne_Ee8gchbE
So, anyone care to guess what's going on here? It seems like there are a number of possibilities. Some of these explanations might seem more likely than others.
*The DNA tests are giving inaccurate results because they are flawed or scientifically unsound (ie. missing or misattributing key genetic factors)
*The genetic factors which differ between races do not correlate strongly with physical appearance
*In some situations, the DNA testing companies make mistakes (ie. mixing up the samples or mail packages)
*DNA test results do not align with perceived race due race being a social construct and not a biological one
*Some people within DNA testing companies, or some people who influence those companies, are deliberately sending out inaccurate results in an attempt to undermine the apparent ability of DNA tests to identify race
*The people in these videos are lying about the results they received, perhaps for attention
Tbh the first girl being 99% euro and the second being 3% afro is believeable.
You serbs are really good on lying, I gotta give you that......Reminds me of Stefan, still can't believe how he fooled all us over until another serb exposed him. :D
What?
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:51 PM
Tbh the first girl being 99% euro and the second being 3% afro is believeable.
I'm suspicious about third girl, her 2% SSA to influence her pheno too much is hardly to believe, she scores similar SSA amount as Sikeliot yet look vastly different.
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:52 PM
What?
Come on you ain't adopted, are you?
Come on you ain't adopted, are you?
What about that guy stefan? Last time I talked to him I gave him another asshole for calling me a dirty mutt.
Sikeliot
03-25-2017, 09:56 PM
I'm suspicious about third girl, her 2% SSA to influence her pheno too much is hardly to believe, she scores similar SSA amount as Sikeliot yet look vastly different.
I can believe the first girl being 99% European. I cannot believe the girl who looks very mixed being the same amount African as I am.
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 09:58 PM
What about that guy stefan? Last time I talked to him I gave him another asshole for calling me a dirty mutt.
He lied basically about everything what's to be lied about himself but none has noticed until a serb caught him cold.
He lied basically about everything what's to be lied about himself but none has noticed until a serb caught him cold.
Like what? I wasnt around at the time. Of course I'm not not adopted. That was a joke between Kel and I.
Antimage
03-25-2017, 10:03 PM
I'm suspicious about third girl, her 2% SSA to influence her pheno too much is hardly to believe, she scores similar SSA amount as Sikeliot yet look vastly different.
"throwback genes" maybe?White south africanss are like 1-5% ssa, but this happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Laing
The girl in OP is barely african facially, the most striknig african feature in her is the hair, but menas and even south euros have that hair sometimes. Give her straight hair and she will look indian, arab or something.Even now she looks sorta mena.
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:08 PM
Like what? I wasnt around at the time. Of course I'm not not adopted. That was a joke between Kel and I.
The guy is not Kosovo Serb, neither was his father killed during a fight with Albanians in 99' and many other things of which were exposed by another serb member......Thread is now deleted because I'd post it here how interesting turn have taken out of nothing.
Carlito's Way
03-25-2017, 10:11 PM
"throwback genes" maybe?White south africanss are like 1-5% ssa, but this happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Laing
The girl in OP is barely african facially, the most striknig african feature in her is the hair, but menas and even south euros have that hair sometimes. Give her straight hair and she will look indian, arab or something.Even now she looks sorta mena.
these niggas are something else, last time they made a thread about white people with curly hair, and now they think curly hair is a black trait smh
Nurzat
03-25-2017, 10:12 PM
the girl in the OP video seems quite dumb. she's cute too
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:13 PM
"throwback genes" maybe?White south africanss are like 1-5% ssa, but this happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Laing
The girl in OP is barely african facially, the most striknig african feature in her is the hair, but menas and even south euros have that hair sometimes. Give her straight hair and she will look indian, arab or something.
Throwback genes is very rare occurrence, much believable version is that her sample simply could have been mixed up with another person......Her features are really foreign for a person scoring 97% European.
The guy is not Kosovo Serb, neither was his father killed during a fight with Albanians in 99' and many other things of which were exposed by another serb member......Thread is now deleted because I'd post it here how interesting turn have taken out of nothing.
It was obvious he was trolling but isn't he related to all the albos here anyway? xD
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:24 PM
It was obvious he was trolling but isn't he related to all the albos here anyway? xD
How, was he Albanian?
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:26 PM
It was obvious he was trolling but isn't he related to all the albos here anyway? xD
He did a great job then since he fooled all us over, however left immediately when he was 'caught', wish he came back however to joke and annoy him exactly for this :D......I think he's related with some if he hasn't lied about this also. xD
How, was he Albanian?
Ño. I think his father's side was from kosovo.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:28 PM
He did a great job then since he fooled us all over, however left immediately when he was 'caught', wish he came back however to joke and annoy him exactly for this :D......I think he's related with some if he hasn't lied about this also. xD
How is he related to them?
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:28 PM
these niggas are something else, last time they made a thread about white people with curly hair, and now they think curly hair is a black trait smh
Ok, she's white, your black since you sure as hell like to sound as one. :D
He did a great job then since he fooled us all over, however left immediately when he was 'caught', wish he came back however to joke and annoy him exactly for this :D......I think he's related with some if he hasn't lied about this also. xD
I think with abubu and a skerdi. Maybe others here too
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:31 PM
How is he related to them?
Autosomally, certainly for us isn't too hard to be related with Serbs, I get some too, but not him since he was not tested in ftdna.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:31 PM
Autosomally, certainly for us isn't too hard to be related with Serbs, I get some too, but not him since he was not tested in ftdna.
Obviously we did mix with South Slavs.
Antimage
03-25-2017, 10:32 PM
(visibly Amerindian woman is ~99% European)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBeLjzV6eBU
Here is a 5/8 prussian, 2/8 scando, 1/8 british guy who got classified as "10-15% amerindian looking" http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?205779-Classify-my-phenotype-and-tell-me-where-I-could-pass
Mongol look just happens sometimes among full euros. If Björk was canadian people would say she must be 1/4 inuit or something.
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:32 PM
I think with abubu and a skerdi. Maybe others here too
Something tells me I would be related with him also if he took a ftdna test.
Something tells me I would be related with him also if he took a ftdna test.
And mortimer :heh:
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:36 PM
And mortimer :heh:
Lol, who doesn't want to be related with such a big celebrity man.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:37 PM
Lol, who doesn't want to be related with such a big celebrity man.
What cluster of E-V13 is Mortimer?
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:39 PM
Obviously we did mix with South Slavs.
Only to some degree, but could be vice versa effect too, you have many orthodox albos who have been lost to Serbs or Montenegrins.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:41 PM
Only to some degree, but could be vice versa effect too, you have many orthodox albos who have been lost to Serbs or Montenegrins.
True, I'd say that I have some Slavic(Montenegrin) admixture due to where we are from
Carlito's Way
03-25-2017, 10:45 PM
Ok, she's white, your black since you sure as hell like to sound as one. :D
you didnt see her damn results? shes mix race dumbass
and yeah im black, one drop rule in America
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:46 PM
True, I'd say that I have some Slavic(Montenegrin) admixture due to where we are from
I don't think our Slavic admixture is that big, in fact its already proven that we Albanian Ghegs have been the least affected group genetically by Slavs, even Greeks have more.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:48 PM
I don't think our Slavic admixture is that big, in fact its already proven that we Albanian Ghegs have been the least affected group genetically by Slavs, even Greeks have more.
Yes it is a small admixture but it is there since our clans exchanged brides with one another. Tosks have more Slavic input AFAIK
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:49 PM
you didnt see her damn results? shes mix race dumbass
and yeah im black, one drop rule in America
lol, 3% non white is barely a mixed race even less by new world standards.
How much black you score, beaner?
Carlito's Way
03-25-2017, 10:56 PM
lol, 3% non white is barely a mixed race even less by new world standards.
How much black you score, beaner?
3% is North African you moron, shes part Jewish and the other european (southern european), watch the fucking video you cunt
you look non white yourself, the fuck you complaining, you probably part Turkish or something
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 10:56 PM
Yes it is a small admixture but it is there since our clans exchanged brides with one another. Tosks have more Slavic input AFAIK
What can we do, we certainly wanted to shag some slavic bitches.
Kelmendasi
03-25-2017, 10:57 PM
What can we do, we certainly wanted to shag some slavic bitches.
Slavic women are known to be very attractive so in all fairness I can't blame my ancestors for fucking them lol ;)
The Illyrian Warrior
03-25-2017, 11:10 PM
3% is North African you moron, shes part Jewish and the other european (southern european), watch the fucking video you cunt
you look non white yourself, the fuck you complaining, you probably part Turkish or something
:picard1:
Oh God look what this stupid fucktard has to say. ^
Are you mentally challenged?! I see that you've missed her results not me, also show up how nigga you're or shut the fuck up with that forced nigga talking.
Rethel
03-25-2017, 11:11 PM
But why do this at all - false or not!?
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