Classify Mari man (Eastern Mari)

[SCARtem]

Eastern Mari separated in the XVI century from Meadow Mari and went to the east beyond Kama river
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/34fe3/QU9DcBqCBms.jpg
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https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/34fd2/DhI3yCB-upI.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/34fec/BO-ZAAnp16g.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/34ff5/mqlW2HptSjc.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/34ffe/J_u02gb3IGE.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/35007/UwiPhoinAYY.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c604617/v604617359/35010/RnBIemmxDO0.jpg

https://youtu.be/qNLPGMFpoVg

[Purohit ji]

https://youtu.be/W3XFChOz-Z0

[crazyladybutterfly]

keltic nordid?

[Odin]

Noric.

[Columella]

Mainly Baltic. Slight Nordic or Noric temdency

[RN97]

Looks like Stears, lol

[Jana]

Looks like Stears, lol
Indeed, he a Stearsoid. I always told you that Stears preserved ancient Hungarian (Fino-Ugric) look, which can be found in Russia today.

[RN97]

Indeed, he a Stearsoid. I always told you that Stears preserved ancient Hungarian (Fino-Ugric) look, which can be found in Russia today.

That's not true, lol. Finno-urgians looked like this, a lot chinkier:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?69707-Finns-Mongoloid-originally

[Kamal900]

Eastern Slavic.

[Tommie]

Hm, interesting. Mari wouldn't have been my first guess.

[Jana]

That's not true, lol. Finno-urgians looked like this, a lot chinkier:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?69707-Finns-Mongoloid-originally

This man will be cca. 20% Siberian genetically and he still have such look, so it didn't come from outside source. I think such phenotype was always present among Finno-Ugric people.

[RN97]

This man will be cca. 20% Siberian genetically and he still have such look, so it didn't come from outside source. I think such phenotype was always present among Finno-Ugric people.

They probably mixed with the slavs. A lot more Russians look like that than Mari people do. There is no proof this man is that Siberian, that's just the average for his folks. This look to me is found more among Belarusians, Russians and Ukranians than among Finno-ugrians (I don't consider Finns truly fenno-ugric)

[Kamal900]

They probably mixed with the slavs. A lot more Russians look like that than Mari people do. There is no proof this man is that Siberian, that's just the average for his folks. This look to me is found more among Belarusians, Russians and Ukranians than among Finno-ugrians (I don't consider Finns truly fenno-ugric)

I also think that the finno-ugric tribes of eastern Europe also played a major role in the ethnogenesis of the eastern Slavic peoples since many of them got mixed and assimilated by the early Slavic tribes of eastern Europe.

[RN97]

I also think that the finno-ugric tribes of eastern Europe also played a major role in the ethnogenesis of the eastern Slavic peoples since many of them got mixed and assimilated by the early Slavic tribes of eastern Europe.

That should be true for Russians, but the more west you get, the less it is probably. Poles don't really have any Siberian admixture.

[Jana]

They probably mixed with the slavs. A lot more Russians look like that than Mari people do. There is no proof this man is that Siberian, that's just the average for his folks. This look to me is found more among Belarusians, Russians and Ukranians than among Finno-ugrians (I don't consider Finns truly fenno-ugric)

Maybe you are right :)
But this Mari man is also kind of Stearsoid as you write, so it seems not rare at all among them
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?206635-Classify-Mari-man

I remember one Mari woman elsewhere say they (unmixed Mari) can look anything from East Baltic, Uralic Eurasian to full nordids, and you know they are genetically homogenous and cluster far away from Russians. So we shouldn't reject idea they had various phenotypes from beginnings

[Odin]

Strange thing is most Mari girls I have seen look white, I expected Siberian types. :laugh:

[Kamal900]

That should be true for Russians, but the more west you get, the less it is probably. Poles don't really have any Siberian admixture.

Yeah, which tells us that the early proto-Slavs did not interacted with the finno-ugric tribes of Europe until when the eastern Slavic tribes interacted and assimilated them in the early middle ages in contrast to their western and southern Slavic counterparts.

[Ziveth]

Nordid.

[blogen]

I think, this and this another are (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?206635-Classify-Mari-man) the Volgid race.

I don't know nothing about this race, not exists between the Hungarians.