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catgeorge
03-31-2017, 08:26 AM
Simple excel calculation done from this data

Greece

Greece:
Aegean Islands 20,50%
Central Greece 23,00%
South Greece 23,50%
North Greece 26,50%
Crete 29,50%
Albania 33,50%
FYROM 39,50%
Bulgaria 39,50%
South Italy 40,00%
Cyprus 42,50%
Tuscany 42,50%
Austria 43,00%
Romania 53,50%

North Greece

North Greece:
Greece 21,00%
Central Greece 23,00%
South Greece 29,50%
Aegean Islands 38,00%
Crete 38,00%
FYROM 38,50%
Bulgaria 40,00%
Serbia 44,00%
Albania 46,50%
Hungary 50,50%
Tuscany 58,00%
Austria 60,00%
South Italy 65,00%

South Greece

North Greece 23,50%
Greece 24,50%
Aegean Islands 25,00%
Central Greece 40,00%
Crete 41,00%
FYROM 42,00%
Albania 47,00%
South Italy 48,50%
Cyprus 49,00%
Bulgaria 53,00%
Austria 57,50%
Romania 58,00%

Albania:

South Greece 17,00%
Greece 26,50%
Central Greece 27,50%
Aegean Islands 34,00%
Bulgaria 38,00%
North Greece 38,00%
FYROM 42,00%
Crete 54,00%
Cyprus 56,50%
Romania 58,00%


FYROM

North Greece 21,00%
Bulgaria 29,00%
Greece 39,50%
Albania 42,00%
South Greece 42,00%
Serbia 43,50%
Central Greece 45,50%
Romania 48,00%
Aegean Islands 52,00%
Cyprus 54,50%
Hungary 60,00%
Bosnia-Herzegovina 68,50%
Crete 69,00%


Bulgaria

North Greece 23,00%
FYROM 29,00%
Romania 37,00%
Albania 38,00%
Serbia 38,50%
Greece 39,50%
Central Greece 42,50%
South Greece 47,00%
Aegean Islands 51,00%
Bosnia-Herzegovina 59,50%
Ujku
03-31-2017, 08:27 AM
what do those numbers mean?
catgeorge
03-31-2017, 08:30 AM
The smaller the percentage the closer the genetic distance between regions
Dema
03-31-2017, 08:35 AM
Fyrom is closer to Kosovo Albanians and Albanians then to Greece for sure.
Especially because 1/4 of Macedonians are ethnic Albanians and in other 3/4 there is also assimilated Albanians.
Lucas
03-31-2017, 08:48 AM
It is based on what? Y-DNA frequencies?

North Greece closer to Crete than neighbour FYROM? I don't buy it.
Laberia
03-31-2017, 08:55 AM
what do those numbers mean?

Nothing. Just fuck the brain of the people with BS. The new frontiers of brainwashing.
catgeorge
03-31-2017, 08:56 AM
It is based on what? Y-DNA frequencies?

North Greece closer to Crete than neighbour FYROM? I don't buy it.

You should because I1, I2b, R1b, E1b, T, Q, N is almost identicle... that leaves only R1a and J2 skewed.

I have not weighted a haplo to a greater importance than the other maybe I should - I did look for a "match" and calculated differences though. So if the number of matches and frequencies of differential were small they ranked higher.
Petalpusher
03-31-2017, 10:46 AM
Frequency of haplogroups are not a genetic distance. You never know the direction of the hg's geneflow, which makes it even worse based on macroclades. With that logic India is close to Poland.

If hg A split into two and go into X people and Y people. What's the relation between X and Y? Possibly none, they just both have an A element.
catgeorge
03-31-2017, 10:56 AM
Frequency of haplogroups are not a genetic distance. You never know the direction of the hg's geneflow, which makes it even worse based on macroclades. With that logic India is close to Poland.

If hg A split into two and go into X people and Y people. What's the relation between X and Y? Possibly none, they just both have an A element.

If I can be bothered and get data with solid data integrity I will use the match function with some tweaks to do this again. But in terms of something non exhaustive thats what I got :cool:
catgeorge
03-31-2017, 10:59 AM
Meaning I will dissect the most micro of SNP and zone in by micro-region... who can be bothered though...