San (Busmen) GEDMATCH kits and calc results!

[Lucas]

T158854

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Ancestor 90.67
2 Subsaharian 8.96
3 NearEast 0.38

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ju_hoan_North 9.62 San tribe
2 Khomani 31.33 San tribe
3 Mbuti 32.15
4 Biaka 69.67
5 Congo 78.65
6 Hadza 97.44
7 Bantu 101.85
8 Bantu 105.48
9 Bantu 106.11
10 Yemeni 113.31
11 Maasai 113.73
12 Bantu 113.79
13 Ethiopian 114.61
14 Moroccan 116.19

1 100% Ju_hoan_North + 0% Afroamerican @ 9.62


Africa9 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 San 100

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 San 0
2 SAN_NB 10.09
3 SAN_SA 40.47
4 HADZA 108.4
5 SANDAWE 115.48
6 Xhosa 120.41
7 Maasai 120.51
8 Bantu_N.E. 121.61
9 Ethiopians 121.69
10 Luhya 121.91



puntDNAL K8 African only Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern_HG 86.1
2 Ubangian_Congo 4.36
3 Omotic 2.69
4 E_Benue_Congo 2.54
5 Western_Semitic 1.99
6 Eastern_HG 1.35
7 Nilo_Saharan 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 SA_Khoisan 6.88
2 SA_Kung 24.36
3 SA_Xhosa 73.48
4 SA_Sotho/Tswana 75.59
5 SA_Bantu 76.41
6 SA_Nguni 85.72
7 SA_Pedi 87.62
8 Tanzania_Sandawe 89.06
9 Ethiopian_Wolayta 95.93
10 Kenyan_Bantu 96.9

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.5% SA_Khoisan + 1.5% DRC_Pygmy @ 6.6
2 99.4% SA_Khoisan + 0.6% Ethiopian_AriBlacksmith @ 6.84
3 99.5% SA_Khoisan + 0.5% Tanzania_Hadza @ 6.85
4 99.5% SA_Khoisan + 0.5% Ethiopian_AriCultivator @ 6.86
5 99.8% SA_Khoisan + 0.2% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 6.88
6 100% SA_Khoisan + 0% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 6.88


MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Khoisan 87
2 Archaic_African 13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ju_hoan_North ( ) 0.87
2 Naro ( ) 3.61
3 Taa_North ( ) 4.02
4 Taa_West ( ) 8.02
5 Ju_hoan_South ( ) 8.32
6 Taa_East ( ) 8.93
7 Xuun ( ) 18.34
8 Gui ( ) 19.21
9 Hoan ( ) 22.47
10 Nama ( ) 31.29
11 Khomani ( ) 32.35
12 Gana ( ) 32.99
13 Haiom ( ) 39.45
14 !Kung ( ) 43.95
15 Tshwa ( ) 48.82
16 Shua ( ) 54.14
17 Khwe ( ) 63.5
18 Kgalagadi ( ) 68.62
19 Xhosa ( ) 81.88
20 Bantu_SA_Tswana ( ) 82.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Ju_hoan_North ( ) + 0% !Kung ( ) @ 0.87
2 100% Ju_hoan_North ( ) + 0% AA_Denver ( ) @ 0.87

[RaulEspova]

If one takes a look at old albanian heroes or old people of pure albanians(especially gheghs) ,its clear that these people did not have an european past .The main element is by far Dinarid however unlike their neighbours its very HIGH in Armenoid , or in other words much more pure.
The only logical explanation is that unlike their neighbours it came much latter,a recent immigration.

See true history of albanians as most scholars and even albanians agree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDM02tDCuoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1K8zXebA3k


http://strugaekspres.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/lidhja-shqiptare-e-prizrenit_1878-874x492.jpg
http://de.academic.ru/pictures/dewiki/65/AlbanesesArmados1906--neareastpresents00lequuoft.png
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/46/36/a8/4636a8fecedc6c66e109f4b5cd89e60e.jpg
http://www.malesia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/malesoret.png

[RaulEspova]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/11/ab/ab/11abab2e5e576e9a5fb850f214d368b4.jpg
Analysis of autosomal DNA, which analyses all genetic components has revealed that few rigid genetic discontinuities exist in European populations[...]They found that Albanians, on the one hand, have a high amount of identity by descent sharing, suggesting that both Albanians from Albania and Kosovo derived from a relatively small population that expanded recently and rapidly in the last 1,500 years.The recent growth is particularly evident in Kosovar Albanians, which show particularly high levels of homogeneity, in contrast to the higher diversity otherwise found in other Balkan populations
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.3815v1.pdf

Novembre J. et al. (2008) Genes mirror geography within Europe, Nature doi:10.1038/nature07331

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The only logical conclusion is that it is the original ARNAUT phenotype, imported by Ottomans.
Just to clarify , Al-Arnaut(Ottoamn name meaning "those that did not return") or their ethnic anatolian name "Shqip-tari".This name is not Indo-European in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix "ar" or "tar". Much like: "Khaz-AR", "Av-AR", "Magy-AR", "Bulg-AR", "Hung-AR", "Ta-TAR" - "Ship-TAR". see:
CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA
ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA

[RaulEspova]

Here are some example of Gheghs,you can find thousands of photos in this forum on TA albanian section or by googlin "albanian gheghs".

Pure Armenoid
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Armenoid_Armenian.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Armenoid_Lebanese.jpg

Irano Afghan
http://www.ems.net76.net/index_files/image5362.jpg

Typical armenoid turk
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/Armenoid%20Turks/62f437c3-7888-460a-b9de-8db81c514eb5_zpscqkxepfg.jpg

vs GHEGHS
-Albanians in traditional dress. Malësores mountains (northern Albania). Ca. 1925.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f5/82/54/f5825442e636a4bcb70c659bd7c219fd.jpg


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/92/3b/5b/923b5b2bd0ab0155cad2a5a6fe870069.jpg

Isa BOletini ,very known gheg "Hero" and idol of many albanians in this forum.
http://www.forumishqiptar.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124534&stc=1&d=1259041869
http://radionacional.al/wp-content/uploads/isa-boletini_2.jpg

File:Albanians Debar 1863
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Albanians_Debar_1863.jpg

Kosovo, 1910: Albanian armed men somewhere around Kosovo.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/66/c9/97/66c997ce5ee5683dedbdc91a9e973019.jpg

the bayraktars clan leaders of dukagjini(example is even from TA forum posted by albanians)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f8/0b/e3/f80be3a0694c229dbe55d0f931b3eede.jpg



Ghegh with Dinaric phenotype by Coon.
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe395.jpg

Another Ghegh Dinaric's by Coon
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/coon_files/vlb_images1/csc015.jpg
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/coon_files/vlb_images1/csc017.jpg

The last one is mixed with CM obviously ,tho dinarid is still main element..
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/coon_files/vlb_images1/csc039.jpg

Peja, Kosovo's second largest City(he traditional costumes of the Gheg (northern Albanian) people was very common, the men wearing the ''tirq'', raw woollen trousers and a ''qeleshe'' or ''plisi'', a felt skull cap.)
http://ozoutback.com.au/Kosovo/peja/slides/1967071511.jpg


Different variations of the dinarid(armenoid+ alpinid) ,some with alpinid higher .ALL GHEGHS.
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/coon_files/vlb_images1/csc042.jpg

Malësorë shqiptarë në fillimvitet 1900
http://www.gazetadita.al/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shqiptaret.jpg

[Lucas]

what:)?

[RaulEspova]

what:)?

I reccomd these for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDM02tDCuoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1K8zXebA3k


Spread them out to your friends,family.
The truth must be known,give your kids a chance to know the truth!

[jingorex]

Malësorë shqiptarë në fillimvitet 1900
http://www.gazetadita.al/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shqiptaret.jpg

is that Mortimers grandpappy on the left?

[RaulEspova]

is that Mortimers grandpappy on the left?

Well Mortimer is related to Herr Abubu and therefore with many albanians on this forum.

[jingorex]

Well Mortimer is related to Herr Abubu and therefore with many albanians on this forum.

i have no idea who that is but dude on the left looks like Morti for sure.

[RaulEspova]

i have no idea who that is but dude on the left looks like Morti for sure.

Malësorë shqiptarë në fillimvitet 1900

Typical high caste gheghs ,the pic is from google ,you can find manyothers by googling "Albanian gheghs" ,these people are subhumans and they claim illyrian.

[Lucas]

This thread was merged with some Albo thread. I have no idea why:)

[Leto]

Interesting.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T158854

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Sub-Saharan 60.29
2 Northeast_African 38.77
3 Oceanian 0.54
4 Amerindian 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 San 2.47
2 Mbuti_Pygmy 9.42
3 Bantu_N.E. 19.26
4 Luhya 20.44
5 Biaka_Pygmy 28.18
6 Sudanese 29.09
7 Sandawe 29.99
8 Ethiopian_Anuak 35.17
9 Bantu_S.E. 37.38
10 Maasai 38.82
11 Bantu_S.W. 40.08
12 Hadza 41.42
13 Mandenka 47.12
14 Ethiopian_Gumuz 53.39
15 Yoruban 55.42
16 Ethiopian_Oromo 67.95
17 Somali 69.45
18 Ethiopian_Wolayta 69.62
19 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator 71.17
20 Mozabite_Berber 72.43