About Magicians. Religious and nonreligious people join this thread pls

[Porn Master]

can you explain how the hell this shit can happen and how the hell is this possible???



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3YLneFhr60



This question is mostly to experts!

[Dick]

I can do that trick with my dick too. I get the same reaction "is it real"?

[Wrong]

revealman reveals this

[Porn Master]

Don't derail this thread. The question was serious. Who can explain??

[Porn Master]

bump

[Porn Master]

anyone?

[Porn Master]

this one too. WTF??




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJpQI-jKiLQ

[Philip Latinowitz]

Good stuff. There's always the way how they do these things...better the magician harder to find out the trick :D

[Porn Master]

Good stuff. There's always the way how they do these things...better the magician harder to find out the trick :D



annoying sceptics can whine that these videos are fake and public was bought by magicians, but no one is on drugs and this looks so fucking real

[Philip Latinowitz]

annoying sceptics can whine that these videos are fake and public was bought by magicians, but no one is on drugs and this looks so fucking real
Yeah such people are stupid as fuck. It's obvious the reactions from kids in public are real. Now we just need to find out how they do it. Amazing :D

[black hole]

I have noticed that most magicians dress black clothes and most magicians look like gay, I mean their facial appearance looks feminine, not masculine

[Sekarotuinen]

I dont believe in magic per se. As in, everything is explainable scientifically. Even the machinations of 'the unseen', while seemingly magically could be explaimed scientifically.

[Rethel]

It is simple. Some of them can be tricks, but
these more "advanced" are clearly demonic
doings. Nothing strange, nothing new.

These magicians will be slaughter and burn
in hell - the same as most of their viewers.

[Sekarotuinen]

It is simple. Some of them can be tricks, but
these more "advanced" are clearly demonic
doings. Nothing strange, nothing new.
I believe in demons, and angels, and Djinn (whether demons and angels are types of Djinn, is a debate). I believe that they are found in a higher plain of existance, possibly 4th dimensional beings. They only cross our plain of existance where our 3 dimensions intersects their universe. While what they do seems like magic, and we cant truly comprehend them, we can mathematically deduce them.

What do you think of this, as I doubt many other people here believe in demons, lol.

[Rethel]

What do you think of this, as I doubt many other people here believe in demons, lol.

Djins it is arabic word for demons.

Idk in which demension they exosted, but clearly not in our per se. It
doesn;t matter where they are, the matter is, that they are acting in
our dimension, are enemies of God, enemies of Humankind, and they'll
be punished together with their admirers and followers. Every one who
is listening to thier teachings will burn/be annihilated together with them.
And majority of people follow them this way or another.

[Sekarotuinen]

If you dont get the 4th dimension, check this out.

https://youtu.be/N0WjV6MmCyM

4th dimensional constructs can exist without interacting with our 3rd dimensional plain. Just as we could go beyond an imagined 2d universe by going on the Z axis.

This also matches up well with the Abrahamic concept of the heavens and the earth being different realms.

[Rethel]

If you dont get the 4th dimension, check this out.

https://youtu.be/N0WjV6MmCyM

4th dimensional constructs can exist without interacting with our 3rd dimensional plain. Just as we could go beyond an imagined 2d universe by going on the Z axis.

This also matches up well with the Abrahamic concept of the heavens and the earth being different realms.

I get demensions, but it doesn;t matter.

[Sekarotuinen]

Djins it is arabic word for demons.

Idk in which demension they exosted, but clearly not in our per se. It
doesn;t matter where they are, the matter is, that they are acting in
our dimension, are enemies of God, enemies of Humankind, and they'll
be punished together with their admirers and followers. Every one who
is listening to thier teachings will burn/be annihilated together with them.
And majority of people follow them this way or another.
Watch the video I linked. It was made by an athiest, but think about how well it matches up with both Christian and Islamic teachings.

[Sekarotuinen]

I get demensions, but it doesn;t matter.
I'm just proposing that we could mathematically deduce how demons interact with the world (and angels as well), thus being more effective with how we combat them.

[Rethel]

Watch the video I linked. It was made by an athiest, but think about how well it matches up with both Christian and Islamic teachings.

I saw many of such.
If this is an atheist, this only proofs
that this people are willingly ignorant.

Islamic teachings are totally different and very material.
Do not compare this shit to Christianity, please.

[Porn Master]

Jinns mean unseen worlds in Arabic.
Wiki

[Rethel]

I'm just proposing that we could mathematically deduce how demons interact with the world (and angels as well), thus being more effective with how we combat them.

:picard2:

You can;t combat them without God.

[Sekarotuinen]

Jinns mean unseen worlds in Arabic.
Wiki
The word Djinn means 'the unseen'.

[Porn Master]

The word Djinn means 'the unseen'.



what did I tell then?

[Sekarotuinen]

what did I tell then?
It doesnt imply the word 'worlds'

[Sekarotuinen]

:picard2:

You can;t combat them without God.
But knowledge has better allowes us to fight evil, knowledge where not otherwise forbidden is a good thing. Math is a tool for the religious.

[Porn Master]

It doesnt imply the word 'worlds'



there are materialistic world and spiritual world. Why do you bother? Your religion teaches people there are many worlds beside our if you are Muslim you have to know that

[Root]

It is simple. Some of them can be tricks, but
these more "advanced" are clearly demonic
doings. Nothing strange, nothing new.

These magicians will be slaughter and burn
in hell - the same as most of their viewers.



Damn, man. You as a Christian are not even better than those Muslim bunch of radicalist members in the terrorist group ISIS acting in Syria and Iraq. These aggressive militaristic Abrahamic ideology will kill you all very soon.. remember, Magic is not a violent thing ;-)

[Sekarotuinen]

there are materialistic world and spiritual world. Why do you bother? Your religion teaches people there are many worlds beside our if you are Muslim you have to know that
The unseen does not equal other worlds. The Quran predicts the existance of exoplanets, and the 4th dimension, they are independent of each other.

[Rethel]

But knowledge has better allowes us to fight evil,

Not such knoledge. Is useless, as knowlegde among
ants about theoretical chemicals, when people use them.

Only Jehovah can provide a protection from demons.


knowledge where not otherwise forbidden is a good thing. Math is a tool for the religious.

You can even not know, that you deal with demons so...

[Rethel]

Damn, man. You as a Christian are not even better than those Muslim bunch of radicalist members in the terrorist group ISIS acting in Syria and Iraq. These aggressive militaristic Abrahamic ideology will kill you all very soon.. remember, Magic is not a violent thing ;-)

Unfortunatly, every muslim pwho do not convert will be eternaly damn.
If they will kill me - it is only better for me, not for them. So, what else
do you want to tell me? You cannot scared me using reprobates...



The unseen does not equal other worlds. The Quran predicts the existance of exoplanets, and the 4th dimension, they are independent of each other.

Koran is a satanistic lying book. It has the
same value as Book of Mormon. Is worthless.

[Sekarotuinen]

Not such knoledge. Is useless, as knowlegde among
ants about theoretical chemicals, when people use them.

Only Jehovah can provide a protection from demons.



You can even not know, that you deal with demons so...
That's why you consult religious texts. A demon can corrupt a priest or an imam as easily as a scientist.

[Root]

Unfortunatly, every muslim pwho do not convert will be eternaly damn.
If they will kill me - it is only better for me, not for them.




These magicians will be slaughter and burn
in hell - the same as most of their viewers.



This doesn't make you a better one than them people you don't like, does it?





do you want to tell me? You cannot scared me using reprobates...


Excuse me, what?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

annoying sceptics can whine that these videos are fake and public was bought by magicians, but no one is on drugs and this looks so fucking real

I don't believe there are any professional magicians on the forum to be able to tell you. Magicians are guarded against giving away the trick unless it's considered a hack trick. I have no idea if this guy did anything new and original. There was a show with Penn & Teller where magicians would perform for them. If they were stumped the magician won (I forget what they won). I only saw a couple of shows but Penn and Teller were quickly able to figure out every trick. It's their profession and they've been very successful at it. All they were seeing was old tricks in a different dress.

They would never give away the magicians trick unless it was a hack trick (such as using a trick watch). They would make comments that showed their understanding of the trick without giving the trick away and the magician confirms or denies (they're always correct from the episodes I've seen).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryaTwKpldRA

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryaTwKpldRA

Here was couple of non clear situations, and not all was showed, for example,
he was hanging many mailers together when he was hiding the card, so who knows..,

But nevermind. Those two guys, who were a subjects of experiment I saw long
ago in some anty-biblical spot. They are literally god hating satanists, and one
of these freaks had (I have no idea why) painted one nail. So, if two demonized
people are a participants of such show, then probably the third is also, especially
if he is doing such thing, being in edition from one of the most satanic and pagan
countries on earth - actually from the biggest one...

[de Burgh II]

That guy be hiding a baguette in his shirt for lunch from 9:43 to 9:51.

https://s28.postimg.org/n4yn95gal/Untitled.jpg

He hid my baguette beneath his scarf this whole time!

Sneaky, sneaky occultism... :tsk:

[Rethel]

This doesn't make you a better one than them people you don't like, does it?

I don't get your question. Reformulate please.

Do you claim, that I am the same as satanists and demon possed people?


Excuse me, what?

Which part do you not understand?

You said, that muslims will kill us, so what is not understandable for you?

[Rethel]

That guy be hiding a baguette in his shirt for lunch from 9:43 to 9:51.

I watched it. If there is no special efffects it is clearly satanic. But
the most interesting thing is, that people are going to be interesting
in such occultic stuff, but never will turn into living God, who can save
them, and protect now from this demonic influence..


He hid my baguette beneath his scarf this whole time!
Sneaky, sneaky occultism... :tsk:

It is possible, but look at the beginning, he
has a hand on the left of his body (his left).

[Root]

I don't get your question. Reformulate please.



I made a simple comparison between you and radicalists, nothing else.. you wish people like Magicians were burned in hell, this statement sounds quite radical to me(to others could be as well) which doesn't make you better than those radical believers you hate who wish the same punishment.





You said, that muslims will kill us, so what is not understandable for you?



Please re-read this quotation very carefully before switching into debates


These aggressive militaristic Abrahamic ideology will kill you all very soon

[Rethel]

you wish people like Magicians were burned in hell,

I didn't say, I wish, but I said, they will.
If they not repent and convert of course.


this statement sounds quite radical to me

What is radical in that?
God says, that magicians should be killed,
and all who will be make such things will
be condemed and will not enter the Kingdom.

Radical would be something, what would be above it.



(to others could be as well) which doesn't make you better than
those radical believers you hate who wish the same punishment.

Which radicals? Muslims? :picard2:
They are liers and enemies of Gospel.
If they will not repent, they will end
similar like those magicians.

Is God a radical, becasue said so?
Is a jugde in the court a radical,
when he is sentencing a criminal
into death according to state law? :picard2:

Is a radical someone, who says, that such
punishment is written in the penalty codex,
and that someone who is doing such and
such crimes, will be sentenced to death?

It is radicalism? :picard2:

Rather realism.

[Root]

I didn't say, I wish, but I said, they will.
If they not repent and convert of course.



What is r1adical in that?
God says, that magicians should be killed,
and all who will be make such things will
be condemed and will not enter1 the Kingdom.

R1adical would be something, what would be above it.



Which rad1icals? Muslims? :picard2:
They are lier1s and enemies of Gospel.
If they will not r1epent, they will end
similar1 like those magicians.

Is God a r1adical, becasue said so?
Is a jugde in the court a r1adical,
when he is sentencing a cr1iminal
into death accor1ding to state law? :picard2:

Is a r1adical someone, who says, that such
punishment is wr1itten in the penalty codex,
and that someone who is doing such and
such cr1imes, will be sentenced to death?

It is r1adicalism? :picard2:

R1ather r1ealism.






R1 here, there and everywhere..

joke


your God is brutal and merciless, no offense.

[Rethel]

your God is brutal and merciless, no offense.

He is maercyfull here and now at 2017! So, repent and give him glory,
until the time of judgment will come. He even gave his Only Begotten
Son for you, to allow you to live, not die. The ball is on your very side.
Everything depends on you. If you have a wish, you can be a child of
God and be forgiven. But if you do not want to, the only who is guilt
here are you yourself - becasue you are chosing way to destrucion.

[Root]

He is maercyfull here and now at 2017! So, repent and give him glory,
until the time of judgment will come. He even gave his Only Begotten
Son for you, to allow you to live, not die. The ball is on your very side.
Everything depends on you. If you have a wish, you can be a child of
God and be forgiven. But if you do not want to, the only who is guilt
here are you yourself - becasue you are chosing way to destrucion.




Wait, wait.. if I entertain the public with mysterious magic tricks means I'm on the way to destruction? Huh, what?

[Rethel]

Wait, wait.. if I entertain the public with mysterious magic tricks means I'm on the way to destruction? Huh, what?

If you are using demonic powers - yes, of course.

[Root]

If you are using demonic powers - yes, of course.



What is the destructive way according to you I follow with Demonic powers, in my case with magic abilities? How can you describe such kind of statement?

[Rethel]

What is the destructive way according to you I follow with Demonic powers, in my case with magic abilities? How can you describe such kind of statement?

Similar, as you would be an agent
of Soviets in America during Cold War.

Regardless what demons will do to you, it is a sin,
for which on the Judgment Day you will be condemn.
And btw, rightfull government should put you to death
anyway, in this life, for the sake of other citizens.

[Root]

Similar, as you would be an agent
of Soviets in America during Cold War.


but an agent of Soviets doesn't entertain the public, right?





Regardless what demons will do to you, it is a sin,
for which on the Judgment Day you will be condemn.
And btw, rightfull government should put you to death
anyway, in this life, for the sake of other citizens.


Do my magic tricks hurt random people in public places, when I entertain them? If not, I don't deserve any kind of punishment. Such declaration as "they'll burn in hell eternally" is not compatible with the modern and civilized society nowadays in the 21st century

[Rethel]

but an agent of Soviets doesn't entertain the public, right?

:picard2:


Do my magic tricks hurt random people in public places, when I entertain them? If not, I don't deserve any kind of punishment. Such declaration as "they'll burn in hell eternally" is not compatible with the modern and civilized society nowadays in the 21st century

This modern uncivilized society in
the 21st century, is not compatible
with the Creator and his ways...

He really doesn;t has to fit to
your ideas - but you must to his.

[Porn Master]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZvYglefsU

[Porn Master]

watch this one too from 5:11


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euWmhHBsR6g

[Skjaldemjøden]

I can do that trick with my dick too. I get the same reaction "is it real"?

Making it disappear?

[Dick]

Making it disappear?

In certain female body parts, yes.

[Immortal]

I can't tell you. A magician never reveals her secret.

[Porn Master]

I can't tell you. A magician never reveals her secret.




All magicians are actually male, not female :thumb001:

[Hadouken]

some things are creepy tbh.

[Immortal]

All magicians are actually male, not female :thumb001:

You mean most are. My favorite is Krystyn Lambert. Of course, she is much better than me.
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/15-hottest-female-magicians/

[Porn Master]

You mean most are. My favorite is Krystyn Lambert. Of course, she is much better than me.
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/15-hottest-female-magicians/



She is not famous. I don't know many females who are magicians

[Wadaad]

Haroot and Maroot brought the occult science to earth. It is still here but us lay people do not know of it (hidden knowledge), In anycase it is evil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harut_and_Marut

[Hadouken]

definitely not normal and not just "illusion". these guy are fucking creepy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLAs11gkqKE