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Sikeliot
04-01-2017, 11:00 PM
I had a thread like this but the forum crash took it.

My inclination is that some places have changed in different directions.

Greece is today likely more Near Eastern genetically than it has ever been, because of the influx of Pontics, Cypriots, and Anatolian Greeks to the mainland, who have mixed with the general population, even though there were also other Northern influences that may have balanced it out. But what is likely is the ancient Greeks were more Mediterranean in a Sardinian-like sense, and this is what got eroded over the millennia, while both North Euro and Near Eastern DNA increased.

Iberia, I couldn't say. It has been repopulated from north to south, and the original southern Spanish population has been largely exiled to North Africa in the Reconquista.

Sicily is likely the most European genetically now that it has ever been. Prior to Greeks, Italics, Normans, and Lombards, around 1000 BC when the only people on the island were Sicanians and Elymians, it is likely the North Euro element was even lower than today, and the Near Eastern share was higher.

Enflamme
04-01-2017, 11:11 PM
North Africa and peuple from Middle Eastern are like "semi-southern Europeans" (half caucasoid); that is, if you remove their Negroid and Arab part coming from the Arab-Muslim invasion (or not), they will resemble a sort of Atlanto-Mediterranean or pure Mediterranean without influence "Levantine" or others influences (negroid).


Otherwise I do not know, people confuse "having a tanned skin with Atlanto-Mediterranean or Gracile-Mediterranean facial features" with "being genetically Arabic or North African"

Perhaps there are countries in Europe that are genetically purely Mediterranean but with no significant genetically significant influence from modern North Africa or Middle Eastern (less than 1 or 0,30%).

If we compare Sicily with North Africa or peuple from Middle Eastern; Sicily seems to me to be genetically the most European, now I know nothing about Sicily, so... :rolleyes::p

Sikeliot
04-01-2017, 11:20 PM
North Africa and peuple from Middle Eastern are like "semi-southern Europeans" (half caucasoid); that is, if you remove their Negroid and Arab part coming from the Arab-Muslim invasion (or not), they will resemble a sort of Atlanto-Mediterranean or pure Mediterranean without influence "Levantine" or others influences (negroid).


Otherwise I do not know, people confuse "having a tanned skin with Atlanto-Mediterranean or Gracile-Mediterranean facial features" with "being genetically Arabic or North African"

Perhaps there are countries in Europe that are genetically purely Mediterranean but with no significant genetically significant influence from modern North Africa or Middle Eastern (less than 1 or 0,30%).

If we compare Sicily with North Africa or peuple from Middle Eastern; Sicily seems to me to be genetically the most European, now I know nothing about Sicily, so... :rolleyes::p


I mean genetically.

Enflamme
04-01-2017, 11:25 PM
I mean genetically.

Difficult to say, according to the countries of Southern Europe it changes completely.

You have to find genetic studies on the subject perhaps.

RN97
04-01-2017, 11:31 PM
North Africa and peuple from Middle Eastern are like "semi-southern Europeans" (half caucasoid); that is, if you remove their Negroid and Arab part coming from the Arab-Muslim invasion (or not), they will resemble a sort of Atlanto-Mediterranean or pure Mediterranean without influence "Levantine" or others influences (negroid).


Otherwise I do not know, people confuse "having a tanned skin with Atlanto-Mediterranean or Gracile-Mediterranean facial features" with "being genetically Arabic or North African"

Perhaps there are countries in Europe that are genetically purely Mediterranean but with no significant genetically significant influence from modern North Africa or Middle Eastern (less than 1 or 0,30%).

If we compare Sicily with North Africa or peuple from Middle Eastern; Sicily seems to me to be genetically the most European, now I know nothing about Sicily, so... :rolleyes::p

whachu talking about nigga. Arabs are originally caucasoid.