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Agrippa
11-06-2010, 02:27 PM
Interesting documentary, especially the quotes and some comparisons, food for thought at least and well made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJjSzXkm55o

Tomasz
11-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Another great clip by David Duke - high level as always.

I know many people in Poland, who partly agree with my pro-White views. They agree that mass immigration of muslims is a threat but they don't realize that the Jews are to blame for that. When I tell them that, they usually make this ironic smile and say: "yeah, yeah - Jews and freemasons are responsible for that". Clips by mr Duke are always helpful in providing proofs (especially these quotes) for my views. :thumbs up

Don
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Seal_for_the_Tribunal_of_the_Holy_Office_of_the_In quisition_(Spain).png

We did our job.

But we couldn't clean the neighbours homes as well.
Until the independence of the argentina and Nueva España in Northamerica, these regions were jewish free lands. Only cristianos viejos. Now they are nests of these high adapted parasites.

Not our responsability.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Cato
11-06-2010, 03:47 PM
Another good narration by David Duke.

The Journeyman
11-06-2010, 06:56 PM
God that's scary.

Gamera
11-06-2010, 07:30 PM
David Duke has some good videos, and this one is one of those, very interesting.

Thorum
11-06-2010, 07:54 PM
I can think of nothing Jews have done that offends me. All I need to do is look around the West to see the damage, annihilation, and utter destruction both Christianity and Islam have wrought on native cultures...

Tomasz
11-06-2010, 08:15 PM
I can think of nothing Jews have done that offends me. All I need to do is look around the West to see the damage, annihilation, and utter destruction both Christianity and Islam have wrought on native cultures...

Christianity is a Jewish religion, there's no doubt about it. It's rooted in Jewish Old Testament, it began as Jewish sect. As for Islam, notice that they aren't massively immigrating into European countries because they've planned long ago to do so. No, they just use opportunities WE give them. The gates to Europe are open, so they come here. And who has opened these gates? This video of mr Duke should help you understand it.

I understand Jewish actions from THEIR point of view. They are promoting Jewish people at the expense of all the others. It's completely natural behaviour but their interest is in conflict with our interest and that's the problem. White people don't act in their own favour at the expense of the others. Quite contrary - we help other races forgetting about our own.

The main issue lies in our own behaviour. Jews, muslims, negroes - they are no problem in "open fight". Whites have huge technological, military and intellectual advantage over the others. We're ten times stronger than all coloured races together. But we don't actually use this advantage. Instead, we adopted suicidal ideas of multi-culturalism spread primarily by Jews.

Agrippa
11-06-2010, 08:40 PM
I can think of nothing Jews have done that offends me. All I need to do is look around the West to see the damage, annihilation, and utter destruction both Christianity and Islam have wrought on native cultures...

Christianity had its own faults, but today the Christian religion is even more dangerous, because it argues Cultural Marxist and Liberal ideas with God and the bible, lost the good aspects it had, but strengthening the worst.

But obviously, the main issues today come from the Liberalcapitalist system and the Plutocratic Oligarchy and their main memetic poisons they sent to Europeans: Marxism and Liberalism.

Both being united with Cultural Marxism and blunt Capitalism to Neoliberalism, a totally Capitalist society with degenerated Financial Capitalism working for the Plutocrats only and Cultural Marxism serving as some sort of legitimation, also for the legimitation of speech and mind control with "political correctness", "anti-discrimination" and essentially anything Anti-Europeans - in a nightmare of Coudenhove-Kalergi, much worse than he had in mind actually, because the Anglo-Jewish Capitalists are no morally superiour, but corrupted to the bones.

Jews as a people can't be the scapegoats for everything, BUT
- without the Jewish people, those very harmful developments could have never taken place in Europe
- among the Plutocrats and their more powerful menials and supporters are disproportionally often Jews
- the Jewish people are among the most loyal supporters of the current system, even if they are not really satisfied with it neither, because they know:
a) As bad as it is now, the Jews are now a privileged and highly protected people, which justifies the rest
b) To challenge, to really challenge the system might mean that it would break up and with the Plutocratic Oligarchy the whole system supporting Jews might collaps, which MIGHT end in a situation in which:
- the Jews are in a much worse position
- true Anti-Semitism might became a huge problem to them, once the new system would disclose the Jewish role in the old system...

For that reasons, I can imagine many Jews saying among their own people: "Well, that system is crap and I don't like those bankers neither, but can you think of any system treating us better than this one, we are kings now and can get away as a people with almost everything, so better shut up and keep it that way..."

Curtis24
11-06-2010, 08:50 PM
I don't think Jews think that way. I don't think that Jews are as organized as you say they are, though certainly - to some extent - they will defend fellow Jews who have done wrong, though even that has limits.

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 08:52 PM
I can think of nothing Jews have done that offends me. All I need to do is look around the West to see the damage, annihilation, and utter destruction both Christianity and Islam have wrought on native cultures...

In general guys like Duke overstate Jewish malevolence and power, even to the point of coddling Muslims. It isn't to say Jews are political friendlies, but there is an enormous amount of absurdity spread about them.

Thorum
11-06-2010, 08:56 PM
...even to the point of coddling Muslims....

Such as this statement by Tomascz "As for Islam, notice that they aren't massively immigrating into European countries because they've planned long ago to do so. No, they just use opportunities WE give them."

Statements such as that, which are utter nonsense and deny reality, give huge assistance to the Islamic war begun by Mohammad against unbelievers and infidels...

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 09:01 PM
Such as this statement by Tomascz "As for Islam, notice that they aren't massively immigrating into European countries because they've planned long ago to do so. No, they just use opportunities WE give them."

Statements such as that, which are utter nonsense and deny reality, give huge assistance to the Islamic war begun by Mohammad against unbelievers and infidels...

Agreed. I just want to note that while the Netherlands has survived for centuries with Jews (and thrived actually as Jews helped them become a great commercial power), the country may not survive 50 more years with Muslims. Muslims are a severe racial threat which is something Jews could never remotely match.

Among the absurdities spread about Jews is that they somehow had hegemonic power to open Europe's immigration gates. While I have no doubt they favor such things, to ascribe it primarily to them is nonsense. There are a confluence of factors driving immigration, and Jews are a secondary cause. And it's just some Jews.

Tomasz
11-06-2010, 09:23 PM
I don't think Jews think that way. I don't think that Jews are as organized as you say they are, though certainly - to some extent - they will defend fellow Jews who have done wrong, though even that has limits.

They are very organised, primarily because of their powerful, ethnic religion. Jews first appeared in history about 5000 years ago. Many more intelligent and powerful peoples ceased to exist after far shorter time. Why they survived for so long even if they were always not too numerous and very often persecuted? It's because of their solidarity. They could always unite against their enemies, namely all the others.

One of the crucial factors which let Jews achieve that was their unique, strongly ethnic-oriented religion. Read the Old Testament, it's teaching are matching my description accurately. In this book, Jews kill whole tribes to get the "promised land" from them. In other words, they were acting in their own favour, at the expense of all the others.

In Talmud there are numerous passages that confirm what I've said. One of my "favourites" are comparisions between non-Jews and cattle or permission to cheat non-Jews in financial transactions. Modern emanation of Jewish thought and religion is politics of Zionism. Jews are weakening other peoples, especially Whites. They support multi-culturalism in Europe. Funnily, in their own country they have strict anti-immigration and anti-mixing laws but nobody talks about that. They ethnically cleanse Palestinian people and populate their land by their own people.


Such as this statement by Tomascz "As for Islam, notice that they aren't massively immigrating into European countries because they've planned long ago to do so. No, they just use opportunities WE give them."

Statements such as that, which are utter nonsense and deny reality, give huge assistance to the Islamic war begun by Mohammad against unbelievers and infidels...

Apparently, you misunderstood me, Thorum. I don't mean that muslims are okay and they are no danger. Quite contrary - I hate them to the core. They are one of main reasons Europe is dying. My point is that we, White people, are far superior to muslim nations. We could carpet bomb Mecca at any time if we would want to. Having such advantage gives us easy opportunity to end this terrible situation we're now in and to prevent such in the future. Unfortunately, there are many harmful views promoted among our people, namely liberalism, multi-culturalism, "tolerance". These views are to large extent promoted by Jews who never attacked us openly but sneakily - being parasites upon our society, gaining influences and promoting anti-White ideas.

Agrippa
11-06-2010, 09:28 PM
I don't think Jews think that way. I don't think that Jews are as organized as you say they are, though certainly - to some extent - they will defend fellow Jews who have done wrong, though even that has limits.

"The Jews" are obviously not one huge organism in which all parts act the same way, I know that and I know that many Jews have as little power as most gentiles.

But as I said, crucial is the Plutocratic Oligarchy and structures, memetic codes which Jews DISPROPORTIONALLY control, spread, keep up and defend.

Just think about Financial Capitalism, Hollywood and the mass media, negative ideological influences on the Universities and in art, in policy and with marketing, advisors, think tanks and interest groups.

Jews just play an enormous role in our current, rotten and degenerated, Liberalcapitalist system. So even if I would deny that they are well organised, they are WELL REPRESENTED, to the point that it becomes ridiculously absurd to deny their negative influence and role in this system. Regardless of their organisation and will, motivation or whatever, THEY JUST DO THOSE THINGS, they are among the first to do it, they do it very consequently and they are IRREPLACEABLE in the system, to keep it up the way it is.


In general guys like Duke overstate Jewish malevolence and power, even to the point of coddling Muslims.

Fact is, without Liberalcapitalism, Liberalism and Cultural Marxism, "political correctness" and anti-discrimination, the low birth rates thanks to societal and economic degeneration, memetic poisoning of our people and women in particular, without the loss of traditions and hindrance of alternative ideas and policies, Muslims and Islam would be no threat to us at - AT ALL!

After all, Islam was going down when the Israeli and US-actions caused the downfall of Socialist and Nationalist ideas in the Near East, even the regime in Iran is AT LEAST indirectly caused by British-US interventions, when Mossadegh was murdered.

Without all those degenerations, Muslims wouldn't be in Western countries in millions and there would be no such conflict, exactly of the way we experience it, between the Muslim and European world.

In fact, Islamism is the more or less natural reaction of the Muslim people to Dollar Imperialism and Zionism, especially after all European alternatives, primarily Nationalism, Fascism, Socialism etc. failed - back to the roots, to their traditions.

I despise the religion and don't want this foreign people in my country, but they don't pose a real threat by now, because if my people, if the Europeans to decide this or that, it can be done and the Muslims can do close to nothing to prevent it.

Fact is, the real weakness and problems comes from the destruction of our will, our ability to defend ourself, the destruction and degeneration of natural instincts and reason in our people.

If that wouldn't be the case, Muslims would be no threat at all - AT ALL!

The Western Culture has a deep rooted disease, for a long time it symptoms were obvious, but not too serious, now it became virulent and Liberalism and Marxism worked as a catalyst.

The immigrants really just took their chance, obviously often with their own plans, being no helpless something neither, but again, without our own degeneration, NEVER EVER they could have come to being close to something like a threat.

And thinking of the Western culture when Liberalism and Marxism began to rot it FINALLY being healthy, just because no immigrants were there, is inconsequent. Because if you look at the current disease, you have to search for the cause, rather than looking at the symptoms alone.

The mass immigration, low birth rates, even the substitution of our people - even if being main problems - being NOT THE CAUSE, but symptoms of the disease, because without it, it couldn't have happened.

Islam is not more a problem than Cultural Marxism, Liberalism and Capitalism in its current form, our marriage pattern and demographic behaviour, dysgenic trends and so on...

It is a foreign and hostile memetic tradition, carried on by often hostile and genetically foreign people, but it is only a small part of the huge disease Europeans got sick of.

Tomasz
11-06-2010, 09:38 PM
Fact is, without Liberalcapitalism, Liberalism and Cultural Marxism, "political correctness" and anti-discrimination, the low birth rates thanks to societal and economic degeneration, memetic poisoning of our people and women in particular, without the loss of traditions and hindrance of alternative ideas and policies, Muslims and Islam would be no threat to us at - AT ALL!

I despise the religion and don't want this foreign people in my country, but they don't pose a real threat by now, because if my people, if the Europeans to decide this or that, it can be done and the Muslims can do close to nothing to prevent it.

It's exactly, what I meant in my previous posts. :thumbs up

Saruman
11-06-2010, 10:05 PM
Such hypocrisy, Europe needs "multiculturalism" but Israel, non-Europeans in general don't. According to that woman you can feel that it's not even about the (economical) need at all, but some abstract "necessity of multiculturalism", translated = Europeans need to perish. This conflict lasted since Antiochus, Hadrian and it must be won, not for the sake of Europeans only but for the sake of preservation of what has been, what is, and what can be great, bright, beautiful, rational, powerful on this planet: European culture, civilization and people.

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by Agrippa
Fact is, without Liberalcapitalism, Liberalism and Cultural Marxism, "political correctness" and anti-discrimination, the low birth rates thanks to societal and economic degeneration, memetic poisoning of our people and women in particular, without the loss of traditions and hindrance of alternative ideas and policies, Muslims and Islam would be no threat to us at - AT ALL!


Islam was a threat to Europe for centuries before liberalism even really existed. The high mark of the Ottoman threat came before Locke, Spinoza, and the Enlightenment. This is really nothing new. It's just changed its form.


After all, Islam was going down when the Israeli and US-actions caused the downfall of Socialist and Nationalist ideas in the Near East, even the regime in Iran is AT LEAST indirectly caused by British-US interventions, when Mossadegh was murdered.


Yet nationalism in the Near East took off after the Mossadegh coup. Nasser in fact was faciliated by Eisenhower's threat to sink the pound during the Suez crisis.


In fact, Islamism is the more or less natural reaction of the Muslim people to Dollar Imperialism and Zionism, especially after all European alternatives, primarily Nationalism, Fascism, Socialism etc. failed - back to the roots, to their traditions.


The American racialist Lothrop Stoddard predicted the Islamic resurgence 90 years ago. Islam is Islam. As in past eras it hit a low ebb for a few decades, and is now coming back. It has little to do with Zionism. Islam is at war with virtually every people it touches, most of which have little discernable connection to Israel.


Islam is not more a problem than Cultural Marxism, Liberalism and Capitalism in its current form, our marriage pattern and demographic behaviour, dysgenic trends and so on...

It is a foreign and hostile memetic tradition, carried on by often hostile and genetically foreign people, but it is only a small part of the huge disease Europeans got sick of.


I think you overemphasize the role of capitalism as America was long a racialist state while having a strong puritan-capitalist ethos. I agree that our defenses have been compromised, and I agree Jews have played a role in that, but we disagree in the way their role has played out.

Grumpy Cat
11-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Zionists != Jews

Jews are alright people.

Zionists are the ones we are to worry about. They are the ones implementing such policies.

And Zionists are the enemy. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. They even screw over Jews by instilling fear-mongering about antisemitism in their mind, making ordinary Jews think all gentiles are out to get them when that is quite far from the truth.

Agrippa
11-06-2010, 10:16 PM
Islam was a threat to Europe for centuries before liberalism even really existed.

That's true, but Islam was defeated.

So were Jews for a certain time it seemed...


I think you overemphasize the role of capitalism as America was long a racialist state while having a strong puritan-capitalist ethos.

That was NEVER healthy - the American way and always prone for being hijacked by some influential bankers which formed a spiritual elite which the USA never had to the same degree like continental Europe, where an independent spiritual elite, which looked at society systematically, critically, controlled things and evaluated it, was just not present.

Being ruled by the money is a disease to begin with - it's older than the USA, but Great Britain and the USA became the first true plutocracies, so one has to question their whole cultural development, the idea of property and Individualism as it was brought up there, because obviously, this already opened the gates, as did the degenerated forms of Christianity, especially Calvinist sects in the USA...


I agree that our defenses have been compromised, and I agree Jews have played a role in that, but we disagree in the way their role has played out.

What do you think they did? How did they play their role out in your opinion?

Agrippa
11-06-2010, 10:17 PM
Zionists != Jews

Jews are alright people.

Zionists are the ones we are to worry about. They are the ones implementing such policies.

And Zionists are the enemy. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. They even screw over Jews by instilling fear-mongering about antisemitism in their mind, making ordinary Jews think all gentiles are out to get them when that is quite far from the truth.

Depends on your definition of Zionism, because in fact, some of the most healhty and "normal" Jews I know about, genetically-racially and memetically-culturally, live in Israel and become a minority there as well, thanks to the religious morons birth rates.

Whereas some of the worst Jewish representatives are so called "well integrated", not openly (!) Zionist people, just spreading the diseases of Capitalism, corruption, Cultural Marxism and Liberalism...

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 10:21 PM
Zionists != Jews

Jews are alright people.

Zionists are the ones we are to worry about. They are the ones implementing such policies.

And Zionists are the enemy. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. They even screw over Jews by instilling fear-mongering about antisemitism in their mind, making ordinary Jews think all gentiles are out to get them when that is quite far from the truth.

Defined properly, Zionism is merely a movement to return Jews to Palestine. In its early years anti-Semites favored Zionism as a means to get rid of Jews, including Arthur Balfour:

http://www.labournet.net/other/0312/zionism1.html


The only member of Lloyd George’s Cabinet to object to the Balfour Declaration was its sole Jewish member, Sir Edwin Montagu - on the grounds of anti-Semitism. The hero of the Zionism, Arthur Balfour, as Home Secretary introduced the Aliens Bill in 1906 with the specific purpose of preventing Jewish victims of the pogroms from coming to Britain.

We read further in Brenner's Zionism in the Age of the Dictators:

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch01.htm


Weizmann knew the full extent of Balfour’s anti-semitism, as he had unburdened himself of his philosophy to the Zionist on 12 December 1914. In a private letter, Weizmann wrote: “He told me how he had once had a long talk with Cosima Wagner at Bayreuth and that he shared many of her anti-Semitic postulates.”

Liberalism, not Zionism, is the problem, and to the extent Jews support liberalism, they're a problem. But Zionism is a form of virile nationalism that we should support and emulate. Even Benito Mussolini supported Zionism, and served as honorary head of Italy's main Zionist group.

The overriding fact may be that without Israel we'd get tons of Jewish refugees, which given Jewish political tendencies, means more highly motivated liberal activists. Avoiding that eventuality should be a priority, and is the main reason to support Zionism.

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Agrippa
What do you think they did? How did they play their role out in your opinion?

The key figure is Franz Boas. He had little to do with capitalism. He just destroyed our racial ethic. Capitalists were mostly restrained before him. That mass non-white immigration even became a possibility was due to the work of Boas. In my estimation he's been - by far - the most destructive figure in Western history, and yes, he was Jewish.

Joe McCarthy
11-06-2010, 10:50 PM
The head of the American Eugenics Society, Madison Grant, a man who probably ranks as the most influential of American racial thinkers, and whose book The Passing of the Great Race Hitler called "my Bible", reportedly refused to so much as shake hands with Boas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passing_of_the_Great_Race


Ultimately the thrust of this scientific research was furiously countered by the efforts of Marxist-leaning scientists, particularly those whose ethnicity under Nordic Racial Theory called into question their fitness within the Nordic society. Thus, Grant was involved in many debates on the discipline of anthropology against the anthropologist Franz Boas, who advocated cultural anthropology in contrast to Grant's "hereditarian" branch of physical anthropology. Eventually Grant came to conclude that Boas was both a poor researcher and one who was overtly and covertly politicized, to the point that he would suppress any discoveries favoring hereditarian anthropology (which came to be called scientific racialism). By the time both Grant and Boas served on the National Research Council Committee on Anthropology after the First World War Grant reputedly would not shake hands with Boas on account of the latter's Communism and anti-racialism. Grant represented the "hereditarian" branch of physical anthropology and was staunchly opposed to and by Boas himself (and the latter's students), who advocated cultural anthropology and eventually succeeded in driving hereditarian research and scientific racialism from most of the premier universities in the United States.

anonymaus
11-06-2010, 11:24 PM
Interesting documentary, especially the quotes and some comparisons, food for thought at least and well made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJjSzXkm55o

I am not easily nauseated, but that woman turned my stomach.

Cheesypie
11-06-2010, 11:48 PM
Its always nice when they admit things. The left in general has adopted this agenda and it has long since seeped into the white ruling classes of western Europe. As usual, of course, no such solutions are offered to the ethnic conflict in Israel.

Cheesypie
11-07-2010, 12:00 AM
The head of the American Eugenics Society, Madison Grant, a man who probably ranks as the most influential of American racial thinkers, and whose book The Passing of the Great Race Hitler called "my Bible", reportedly refused to so much as shake hands with Boas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passing_of_the_Great_Race

Unfortunate that Boas wasn't stabbed to death when he slithered the streets. At the least his "studies" should have been duplicated for others, for if they had, they would have been discovered to be the manipulative frauds they were well before they have done so much damage.

Finally, someone DID try to verify Boas' fraudulent data, and of course, found it worthless. In 2002, an NYTimes article came out (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/08/science/a-new-look-at-old-data-may-discredit-a-theory-on-race.html) that read in part,


'''I have used Boas's study to fight what I guess could be considered racist approaches to anthropology,' said Dr. David Thomas, curator of anthropology at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. 'I have to say I am shocked at the findings.'''

and

Dr. Jantz said that Boas ''was intent on showing that the scientific racism of the day had no basis, but he did have to shade his data some to make it work that way.''

That's no small concession.

An article announcing the find was released by PubMed.gov, which is the US National Institutes of Health's US Library of Medicine.

View that here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12374854).

Cato
11-07-2010, 12:14 AM
I don't think Jews think that way. I don't think that Jews are as organized as you say they are, though certainly - to some extent - they will defend fellow Jews who have done wrong, though even that has limits.

Duke isn't talking about the normal, everyday Jews, but the elite Jews who more or less run things behind-the-scenes. I know a Jewish guy who's never been to Israel (i.e. aliyah), eats pork, considers himself to be American and, like Michael Savage, white, but of Jewish ancestry. He teaches self-defense classes, likes martial arts, knives, and has something of an unspoken admiration for the Viking tales (yet is a practicing Reform Jew).

I don't judge all Jews by the standards I use to judge slimy, vile Jew bastards like Barney Frank.

Beorn
11-07-2010, 03:32 AM
What's this? The Phora banned comeback album?

Cato
11-07-2010, 11:39 AM
Depends on your definition of Zionism

Plenty of white Christians sadly consider themselves to be Zionists.

Agrippa
11-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Plenty of white Christians sadly consider themselves to be Zionists.

Yes, mostly coming from the degenerated Calvinist sects I spoke about.

After all, how stupid must you be to fight for a foreign Nationalism which actually works - at least often enough - against your own's people interests?

I have no problem with Israel in general or Jews in general, it always depends on what somebody does and what his actions produce.

Same goes for Muslims and all kind of people

As long as they don't harm me, my people and values, I have no problem with them, if they do, they made the problem.

Cato
11-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Yes, mostly coming from the degenerated Calvinist sects I spoke about.

After all, how stupid must you be to fight for a foreign Nationalism which actually works - at least often enough - against your own's people interests?

I have no problem with Israel in general or Jews in general, it always depends on what somebody does and what his actions produce.

Same goes for Muslims and all kind of people

As long as they don't harm me, my people and values, I have no problem with them, if they do, they made the problem.

The only nationalism that I'll openly say I support is American nationalism, falling under the auspices of American constitutional republicanism and not the current American corporate imperialism, which I'll have nothing to do with (and hence the reason why I don't vote).

I can agree that not all Jews, probably the vas majority of them, are no problem. These ones are like my friend, well-adjusted, succesful, nice people, and easy to get along with. I have the feeling that my Jewish friend thinks of Israel like I feel about England for example: as a place the forefathers came from, connects with in some way, might visit eventually, etc. He's not even very religious or political. His girlfriend is equally Jewish, but I can't fault the guy for being consistent with not wanting, say, a Christian girlfriend since I'd really do no less (i.e. not date Jews or Muslims).

As to Muslims themselves, I think the men are dirtballs. All of the Muslims I've talked to and liked, just about always, have been women. If you can remember Farah who was on the forum briefly, very smart young woman, this is something I find to be a bit of a constant (Islamic women tend to be well-educated and more open-minded than their cretinous male counterparts).

Aramis
11-07-2010, 05:45 PM
As to Muslims themselves, I think the men are dirtballs. All of the Muslims I've talked to and liked, just about always, have been women. If you can remember Farah who was on the forum briefly, very smart young woman, this is something I find to be a bit of a constant (Islamic women tend to be well-educated and more open-minded than their cretinous male counterparts).

Muslim women most be prone to western culture, as it guarantees them (more) rights and liberation from norms common in Islamic societies, whereas muslim men do not feel the urge to abandon their ancestral culture. Why should they?

I got symphaties for them, and groups alike (the ones living on their native soil). Modern age individualism and hedonism get most of us, depriving our existence of any meaning.

Agrippa
11-07-2010, 08:18 PM
Muslim women most be prone to western culture, as it guarantees them (more) rights and liberation from norms common in Islamic societies, whereas muslim men do not feel the urge to abandon their ancestral culture. Why should they?

I got symphaties for them, and groups alike (the ones living on their native soil). Modern age individualism and hedonism get most of us, depriving our existence of any meaning.

Women are generally more socially adaptable, less proud and egoistic, not so competitive and group oriented, so they always assimilate themselves to the current situation faster and more consequently than the males.

That's in my opinion no "Muslim only" thing...

Aramis
11-07-2010, 09:30 PM
Women are generally more socially adaptable, less proud and egoistic, not so competitive and group oriented, so they always assimilate themselves to the current situation faster and more consequently than the males.

Any example of these two from daily life?

Agrippa
11-07-2010, 10:33 PM
Any example of these two from daily life?

Of course, at any workplace, in universities and in schools women tend to agree more with authorities and what's "the general consensus".

They try always harder to be liked by others in a "nice way", so with less provocative and more adaptive behaviour.

Typical geeks for the praise of the seniors are fairly more common in women.

Women also tend to vote for more Liberal parties, even if they don't like foreigners, they don't want "to discriminate them" as often or to appear "intolerant" (the wish for a "tolerant" partner, "tolerant" in the "politically correct" sense of the term, being much more common in females), avoid conflict and risks, while males are more risk taking, group and principle oriented, less caring and more offensive, so they vote for radical parties - of the left and right - more often statistically.

In Germany f.e. the German women adapted themselves much faster to the new conditions after World War 2, they began much earlier to praise the new rules and standards, to start with the rebuiding of their lifes as if nothing happened, because they are then on a "survival mode", while males were broken and had much greater difficulties to accept the change.

That's also true in divorces or with social problems. Women get along much better and adapt their life much faster to the "societal demands" than men, which are more principled, risk taking, lazier and tend to avoid non-legitimated domination, are more often openly critical etc., more often addicted, alcoholics etc.

Women are made more for the inside of the group, for caring and keeping things together, culture-tradition being kept up and people healthy, males more for the outside, to go on longer tours, hunt, participate in wars, defend the group, making longer term plans, fighting for dominance etc.

So we shouldn't wonder that:
- Muslim women adapt more easily, if coming outside of the narrowness of the ethnocultural-religious context of their group at least, learn the language and come into contact with the new memes and sociocultural standards
- Muslim men try to keep them sticking to the old rules and their group, because they just defend their group as a whole and position in it.
In a partly hostile and degenerated environment, they have to get even more radical and primitive at times, to keep their group together, even more so because oftentimes only lower level individuals came, the spiritual elite of the Muslim communities is very weak, even weaker than in the respective homelands VERY OFTEN. So we deal with "disoriented redneck young male muslims", trying to defend with their very limited and primitive means the group and their women, like every normal group and man should.

That we Westerners don't, is part of our degeneration and not the Muslim's fault.

That doesn't make the concrete Muslim male approach much better nor Islam a healthy system, but neither is what we Western people have now anything healthy, rather on the contrary, for the reasons mentioned.

If the tide changes, women will change their attitude en masse as well, faster than many males even probably, once the societal structures reward the changed behaviour and those in charge, "the powerful people" and their role models and ideas and public opinion changed as well...

Cato
11-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Muslim women most be prone to western culture, as it guarantees them (more) rights and liberation from norms common in Islamic societies, whereas muslim men do not feel the urge to abandon their ancestral culture. Why should they?

I got symphaties for them, and groups alike (the ones living on their native soil). Modern age individualism and hedonism get most of us, depriving our existence of any meaning.

Devout, yet open-minded Muslim ladies are seemingly incapable of the idea of freethought or freedom of religion (or no religion at all). i.e. I've had more than one Muslim lady I've talked to say they'll pray for me to become Muslim for some oddball reason, even after I constantly say "I am non-religious."

Islam is a form of theological, rather than political, absolutism. It's not easily defeated.

Cheesypie
11-08-2010, 10:36 PM
Plenty of white Christians sadly consider themselves to be Zionists.

There's nothing wrong with that, but they should be that way for their own as well, and I mean as whites and not as generic Christians.

Joe McCarthy
11-09-2010, 12:24 AM
There's nothing wrong with that, but they should be that way for their own as well, and I mean as whites and not as generic Christians.

In essence Zionism is little different than sending blacks back to Africa. Marcus Garvey's back to Africa movement tended to be supported by the same whites that supported Zionism.

http://books.google.com/books?id=RgXSAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA828&dq=anti-semites+zionism+say&lr=&as_brr=1&output=text#c_top


All honor to the Jews, when, at last, they frankly confess that they are not at home among us.

All honor to them when they honestly allow that nationally, as well as, or even more than, religiously, they are other than we; that they have separate aims, separate aspirations, and a distinctive civilization.

By all means let them be all segregated together in a country of their own. Good luck to them and — good riddance for us. Let the alien element, which cannot assimilate with ourselves, depart for good and all.

Unlike their crafty brethren, who claim equality and emancipation, the Zionists honestly confess that they are not, and do not want to be, anything but Englishmen, Frenchmen, or Russians of the Jewish persuasion.

They boast their own nationhood; they crave their own home.

For heaven's sake, let them have it.

I regard Israel as a sort of Jewish Liberia.

Moreover, even leading Zionists were essentially sympathetic to the concerns of those who opposed having Jews in Gentile lands. We read again in Zionism in the Age of the Dictators:


In his autobiography, Trial and Error, written in 1949, Chaim Weizmann – then the first President of the new Israeli state – looked back at the controversy over the Aliens Bill. An immigrant to Britain himself, the brilliant young chemist was already, in 1902, one of the leading intellectuals of the new Zionist movement. He had met Sir William Evans Gordon, author of the anti-Jewish legislation; even with hindsight, with the Holocaust fresh in his mind, the then President of Israel still insisted that:

our people were rather hard on him [Evans Gordon]. The Aliens Bill in England, and the movement which grew up around it were natural phenomena ... Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them ... The fact that the actual number of Jews in England, and even their proportion to the total population, was smaller than in other countries was irrelevant; the determining factor in this matter is not the solubility of the Jews, but the solvent power of the country ... this cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off ... though my views on immigration naturally were in sharp conflict with his, we discussed these problems in a quite objective and even friendly way.

Cato
11-09-2010, 02:19 PM
whereas muslim men do not feel the urge to abandon their ancestral culture. Why should they?

They won't, because traditional Islamic culture is misogynistic and patriarchal, with women little more than enslaved property and useful only for breeding more Muslims. :grumpy:

Radola
12-02-2010, 09:37 PM
David Duke is famous in our country since he has been arrested here and then expelled:D

Sol Invictus
12-02-2010, 10:00 PM
lol @ the all seeing eye at 0:27 :D

Duke sure looks great though don't he? Much better than back when he had his tango with Wolf Blitzer on CNN when he called him out and their twisting of the President of Iran's words on how Israel must be wiped clean off the map.

Joe McCarthy
12-06-2010, 07:07 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Seal_for_the_Tribunal_of_the_Holy_Office_of_the_In quisition_(Spain).png

We did our job.

But we couldn't clean the neighbours homes as well.
Until the independence of the argentina and Nueva España in Northamerica, these regions were jewish free lands. Only cristianos viejos. Now they are nests of these high adapted parasites.

Not our responsability.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

The usual reason given to oppose Jews is that they promote racial mongrelization and such. But as we saw with the Spanish experience in Latin America, they mongrelized massively with Indians with no help from Jews.

My country is dealing with your legacy as we speak. I'm genuinely wondering what it is you're boasting about.

Agrippa
12-06-2010, 09:39 PM
The usual reason given to oppose Jews is that they promote racial mongrelization and such. But as we saw with the Spanish experience in Latin America, they mongrelized massively with Indians with no help from Jews.

My country is dealing with your legacy as we speak. I'm genuinely wondering what it is you're boasting about.

The real problem with the (stereotypically negative) Jewish influence is the corruption of society and economy, of thought and ideals, virtue and ethics.

Modern Capitalism is the beast of this tendency and many Calvinist sects and their way of looking at life was - partially AT LEAST - Judaised Europeans.

You can mix with foreign races, it doesn't matter, as long as you have structures which protect you at home. But if you let the memetic poison and corruption into your society, it doesn't even matter whether you are "racially pure" from a certain perspective or not, because sooner or later, you will degenerate as a group into something despicable and fall.