FTDNA - MyOrigins update

[Kriptc06]

check your FTDNA results it has updated!

finally! my balkan/eastern euro!
http://i.imgur.com/Fiz8rs0.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7bIbVlIqEc

[Iloko]

Seems like an improvement!

http://i.imgur.com/RuYVve7.jpg

[The Illyrian Warrior]

http://i67.tinypic.com/bisbj4.jpg

[Kriptc06]

[IM.jpg[/IMG]

oh man :C

[The Illyrian Warrior]

oh man :C

Yeah I know, 100% Balkan stronk. :cool:

[Kriptc06]

Seems like an improvement!
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my full results are a rainbow

[Alessio]

They have lumped Southern Italy together with South Eastern Europe.

[Kriptc06]

They have lumped Southern Italy together with South Eastern Europe.

yes xd

[Kelmendasi]

[IG]http://i67.tinypic.com/bisbj4.jpg[/IMG]
I told you it was due to the Balkan category didn't I hehehe ;)

[Argentano]

check your FTDNA results it has updated!

finally! my balkan/eastern euro!
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64519&d=1491320607


what are your full results now?

[Alessio]

http://i64.tinypic.com/2wq8ln6.png

Darn I'm an Albanian Jew :p

[Alessio]

My South Eastern Europe should be higher and this Eastern Euro must be non excistent. Also British Isles should be Central/Western Europe

[Kriptc06]

what are your full results now?

A lot more like the gedmatch calculators, second highest being America, followed by Africa and middle Eastern (North Africa and Levant)
And trace regions: Ashkenazi, South American native and south-west Africa

Overall it's the same thing, I'm still 78% Caucasian

[Argentano]

A lot more like the gedmatch calculators, second highest being America, followed by Africa and middle Eastern (North Africa and Levant)
And trace regions: Ashkenazi, South American native and south-west Africa

Overall it's the same thing, I'm still 78% Caucasian

how much native and SSA?

[frankhammer]

http://i.imgur.com/KkPYJlE.png

[de Burgh II]

https://s13.postimg.org/40a1jtblz/Untitled.jpg

[Coolguy1]

https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17792491_1299423360140811_2029686497_n.png?oh=96fd e58b46c05e400b2240d8018b49b6&oe=58E5CED1

[Kelmendasi]

[im]https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17792491_1299423360140811_2029686497_n.png?oh=96fd e58b46c05e400b2240d8018b49b6&oe=58E5CED1[/img]
Nice result :). Every Balkanite seems to be scoring 90-100% Balkan/South east European lol the majority of Albanians are 100% Balkan/South east European so far. What was your trace regions?

[Kelmendasi]

Did ancient origins get updated?

[Coolguy1]

Nice result :). Every Balkanite seems to be scoring 90-100% Balkan/South east European lol the majority of Albanians are 100% Balkan/South east European so far. What was your trace regions?

Finland, which is strange I think

[Kriptc06]

reboved

[Alessio]

Finland, which is strange I think

You know what is strange. Being half Southern Italian and scoring 8% East European.

[Kelmendasi]

Finland, which is strange I think
Maybe Varangian Vikings or something since the Byzantines did hire them as mercenaries or it could just be noise

[Alessio]

Okay

[Coolguy1]

Maybe Varangian Vikings or something since the Byzantines did hire them as mercenaries or it could just be noise

Who knows, each calculator and site seems to give different results. Have you done an autosomal test?

[Kelmendasi]

Who knows, each calculator and site seems to give different results. Have you done an autosomal test?
Still waiting for Family finder, my kit was supposed to come yesterday but it got delayed due to the upgrade but since the upgrade has finished I guess that my results will come before the new expected time

[Not a Cop]

Still waiting for Family finder, my kit was supposed to come yesterday but it got delayed due to the upgrade but since the upgrade has finished I guess that my results will come before the new expected time

Don't give much credit to Ftdna, they are slowest of em all.

[Kelmendasi]

Don't give much credit to Ftdna, they are slowest of em all.
Yh, they really get annoying with their timing

[Alessio]

Yh, they really get annoying with their timing

It's that they know that if they want to maintain popular they'd have to throw in some new features into the mix to attract new customers. They're still the worst of the big 3 when it somes down to estimating ancestry based on reference panels made from modern populations.

[DRUM]

https://i.imgur.com/rnwlnpo.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

[IG]https://i.imgur.com/rnwlnpo.jpg[/IMG]
Another Albo with 100% Balkan/South east European hehehhe

[Sikeliot]

https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17792491_1299423360140811_2029686497_n.png?oh=96fd e58b46c05e400b2240d8018b49b6&oe=58E5CED1

What is your trace result?

I am 65% Southeast Euro, so it seems to be a south Italian-Greek-Albanian centered cluster.

[Coolguy1]

What is your trace result?

I am 65% Southeast Euro, so it seems to be a south Italian-Greek-Albanian centered cluster.

Finland

[Sikeliot]

Finland

My mother has it too. :lol:

[Iloko]

Dad:
http://i.imgur.com/2RJJp1c.jpg
...
Mom:
http://i.imgur.com/2akVs5d.jpg

[Era]

http://i66.tinypic.com/35hlisn.jpg

[Geni]

European 97%(South East Europe)
Scandinavia <2%(is not Europe ?):confused:
Iberia <2% (is not Europe ?):confused:
South America <2%
...:shrug:

African 0%
South Central Africa 0%
East Central Africa 0%
West Africa 0%
New World 0%
North and Central America 0%
South America < 2%
Central/South Asian 0%
Central Asia 0%
Oceania 0%
South Central Asia 0%
East Asian 0%
Northeast Asia 0%
Siberia 0%
Southeast Asia 0%
Middle Eastern 0%
Asia Minor 0%
East Middle East 0%
North Africa 0%
West Middle East 0%
European 97%
British Isles 0%
East Europe 0%
Finland 0%
Scandinavia < 2%
Southeast Europe 97%
Iberia < 2%
West and Central Europe 0%
Jewish Diaspora 0%
Ashkenazi 0%
Sephardic

[Kelmendasi]

European 97%(South East Europe)
Scandinavia <2%(is not Europe ?):confused:
Iberia <2% (is not Europe ?):confused:
South America <2%
...:shrug:
The Scandinavian component is part of Europe but it's not in the Europe category for you because it is a trace region for you. Anyways congrats

[Sikeliot]

European 97%(South East Europe)
Scandinavia <2%(is not Europe ?):confused:
Iberia <2% (is not Europe ?):confused:
South America <2%
...:shrug:

Misinterpreted Turkic maybe. I am going to assume it to be the same for me too.

[Kelmendasi]

Misinterpreted Turkic maybe. I am going to assume it to be the same for me too.
It's most probably noise

[Nilotik]

http://i.imgur.com/OW6BwUV.png
Before the update, I scored a substantial amount of Eastern European and Middle Eastern, both are gone now. Now I score Finland and Siberia as trace regions which is pretty much in line with my DNA.Land/WeGene/GEDmatch results.

[Mazik]

My results:

https://s11.postimg.org/4g1ma9fsz/ftdna.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

A lot of people are getting trace regions for some reason but I guess this is common in other algorithms as well

[Ylla]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2zscmeq.jpg

[Sikeliot]

I wonder what a full southern Italian would score. If Albanians and Greeks are the base for the "SE European" as they score nearly 100%, then southern Italians must be scoring 90% of that, and maybe 10% of Asia Minor, Levant, or something else.

[Kelmendasi]

Did ancient origins get updated?

[Kelmendasi]

I wonder what a full southern Italian would score. If Albanians and Greeks are the base for the "SE European" as they score nearly 100%, then southern Italians must be scoring 90% of that, and maybe 10% of Asia Minor, Levant, or something else.
Maybe Iberian

[Lucas]

97% East Euro
3% SE Euro

Trace - West Middle East (don't be confused with Jewish clusters, there are separate :cool:)

Before 100% East Euro.

If somebody had trace results before update?

[Africa]

African 53%
West Africa 37%
East Central Africa 16%

Middle Eastern 44%
North Africa 24%
East Middle East 15%
West Middle East 5%

Trace Results
South Central Africa < 2%
Siberia < 2%
South America < 2%
East Europe < 2%
Southeast Europe < 2%

[Kriptc06]

African 53%
West Africa 37%
East Central Africa 16%

Middle Eastern 44%
North Africa 24%
East Middle East 15%
West Middle East 5%

Trace Results
South Central Africa < 2%
Siberia < 2%
South America < 2%
East Europe < 2%
Southeast Europe < 2%

Troo African, are you North African? May you share your gedmatch nun?

[Wrong]

http://i67.tinypic.com/bisbj4.jpg
100.00% Balkan

[Embryo]

http://puu.sh/v9jky/c1b9606020.png

Shiptar with a slavic paternal great-grandmother who was also a western hybrid.

[Potentia]

Ay

https://i.gyazo.com/d00868ec530b3097cbe1b456c090e675.png

[Trojet]

http://i67.tinypic.com/of4j14.jpg

[Albannach]

Oceanian again! I'm sure I must have an abbo in the family somewhere.

African 0%
South Central Africa 0%
East Central Africa 0%
West Africa 0%
New World 0%
North and Central America 0%
South America 0%
Central/South Asian 0%
Central Asia 0%
Oceania < 2%
South Central Asia 0%
East Asian 0%
Northeast Asia 0%
Siberia 0%
Southeast Asia 0%
Middle Eastern 0%
Asia Minor 0%
East Middle East 0%
North Africa 0%
West Middle East 0%
European 99%
British Isles 84%
East Europe 0%
Finland 0%
Scandinavia 13%
Southeast Europe 2%
Iberia 0%
West and Central Europe 0%
Jewish Diaspora 0%
Ashkenazi 0%
Sephardic

[Skerdilaid]

There appears to be some Kurwa in there, alright?

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2hydook.jpg

[Trojet]

There appears to be some Kurwa in there, alright?

4%? That's nothing brother...

[Timawa]

Mine:

http://i.imgur.com/SR9RUiN.jpg

Dad:

http://i.imgur.com/7kc4inj.jpg

Mom:

http://i.imgur.com/9NZMpZR.jpg

[Enflamme]

Do not take your results from the FTDNA update seriously; Most people have very strange results and some have totally impossible results, absurd!

Example of people with weird results:

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41505


Another person

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41380


Answer, i quote: "The simple truth is that none of these tests are perfect. In fact, they are all very much in need of upgrading and best viewed as works in progress."

Another thread:

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41496

I quote: "Congratulations FTDNA!!!

Now the results are even strangER than before!

I dont even need to start a new thread, but since there is a new version, then it deserves a new one. Good news is... the strange results are still there!

#MOSR001
Only one parent has X% of an ethnic group, but son/daughter has actually higher percentage.

#MOSR002
Only one parent has 50% of an ethnic group, but son/daughter has 0 (zero) percentage.

#MOSR003
Individual has double digit percentage of an ethnic group, but his matches to this group are ridiculously scarce, e.g. less than 5%.

#MOSR004
Individual has small percentage of an ethnic group, but none of the parents have it.

#MOSR005
Individual has 100% of an ethnic group, but matches have 0% of it.

#MOSR006
Individual with well known very diverse ancestry has simplified (lumped together) ethnic group composition, missing one or more ancestry groups.

#MOSR007
Individual has different ethnic groups shown by other DNA tests.

#MOSR008
Individual has results showing only 99%. Where is the missing 1%?

#MOSR009
Individual has results showing only below 100% European descent, but Ancient Origins show 100% European. A contradiction?

You gotta love this mess... "

LMAO.



Your results can change in a few months.

I have seen that many genetically European people, can get 5 to 10% of Asia Minor origin while they have no ancestors from this part of the world ... it's totally absurd.

I have seen other people who get strange results unrelated to their parents' results!

It is therefore necessary to wait for the final results.

[Trojet]

Currently, there is no perfect Autosomal DNA test. They're good for getting the overall genetic profile, genetic cousins, and to see overall comparisons between different populations/ethnicities. The rest is pretty much speculative...
This is the reason why I don't take it too seriously and would rather prefer Y-DNA analysis ;)

[Dema]

http://i.imgur.com/KrSCS5J.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/mbq4NrU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0cRkNYl.jpg

[Lek]

https://i.snag.gy/etl40C.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/4Z6B2y.jpg

[Dema]

Here are E and SE explanations also:

http://i.imgur.com/zz7nogH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jkJNt2O.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

Here are E and SE explanations also:

[IG]http://i.imgur.com/zz7nogH.jpg[/IMG]

[MG]http://i.imgur.com/jkJNt2O.jpg[/IMG]
Is Eastern European a Slavic or Yamnaya component?

[Lek]

Is Eastern European a Slavic or Yamnaya component?

It's obviously Slavic.

[Dema]

Is Eastern European a Slavic or Yamnaya component?

Eastern European means that it comes from territory of East Europe. Nothing more detailed then that.

Edit: But finding it in Albanians looks that its strong indicator of mixing with Slavs. especially after update.
Thats how i think, i would like to see more Albo results also whats up with your results, they should already be in, lets hope you will be posting them soon.

[Alessio]

Eastern European means that it comes from territory of East Europe. Nothing more detailed then that.

Edit: But finding it in Albanians looks that its strong indicator of mixing with Slavs. especially after update.
Thats how i think, i would like to see more Albo results also whats up with your results, they should already be in, lets hope you will be posting them soon.

I don't believe it holds much value, because I score 8% and no other calculator, 23andme's AC or AncestryDNA suggest any significant input from Eastern Europe on my Italian nor Dutch side. Not even the older version of FTDNA had any Eastern Euro.

http://postimg.org/image/nll4chv61/

[Kelmendasi]

Eastern European means that it comes from territory of East Europe. Nothing more detailed then that.

Edit: But finding it in Albanians looks that its strong indicator of mixing with Slavs. especially after update.
Thats how i think, i would like to see more Albo results also whats up with your results, they should already be in, lets hope you will be posting them soon.
My results were supposed to come on the 3rd but they got delayed even further due to the update, but since the update is over I should be getting them before the new estimated date. When I get them I will post them. Yh I also think it's due to Slavs now since not every Albanian get's it

[Dema]

I don't believe it holds much value, because I score 8% and no other calculator, 23andme's AC or AncestryDNA suggest any significant input from Eastern Europe on my Italian nor Dutch side. Not even the older version of FTDNA had any Eastern Euro.

http://postimg.org/image/nll4chv61/


What DNA land tells you, do you get any N Slavic there?

I am sorry about how you feel but that its how it looks for now. Need more Albo results tho. Also Greek and Italian would be nice.

[Thrax]

Here are my results

European 79%
Southeast Europe 57%
East Europe 17% (!)
Iberian 7%
Middle Eastern 19%
Asia Minor 19%
Trace results
West and Central Europe <2%

[Alessio]

Here are my results

European 79%
Southeast Europe 57%
East Europe 17% (!)
Iberian 7%
Middle Eastern 19%
Asia Minor 19%
Trace results
West and Central Europe <2%

Now it makes sense why I have the Eastern Euro. Only I should've scored more Asia Minor, if you even score high amounts. I think their reference panel sucks. Lumping together most of Italy and Southeastern Europe if already a big fail.

[Alessio]

What DNA land tells you, do you get any N Slavic there?

I am sorry about how you feel but that its how it looks for now. Need more Albo results tho. Also Greek and Italian would be nice.

No, it's not 'how I feel' and screw DNA Land, they're even worse. No, I don't got EasternEuro anywhere and I did more testing then 99% on this forum. I am just trying to figure out how they made such a mistake. My Italian side is proper Southern Italian with no other significant admixture and this shows in all of my A-DNA tests except this one. There must be something off here.

[Dema]

No, it's not 'how I feel' and screw DNA Land, they're even worse. No, I don't got EasternEuro anywhere and I did more testing then 99% on this forum. I am just trying to figure out how they made such a mistake. My Italian side is proper Southern Italian with no other significant admixture and this shows in all of my A-DNA tests except this one. There must be something off here.

show your DNA Land

[Alessio]

show your DNA Land

Which one of the 3?

[RHouallet]

It's an intriguing change. They completely obliterated my British DNA...Forgot what FTDNA formerly posted, but it's 76% at Ancestry.DNA, and boosted my Scandinavian from 17% to 36%. Now they're saying I'm <2% South-Central African and <2% Western Middle East...Where'd that come from all of a sudden? Cripes.

[Dema]

Which one of the 3?

DNA Land ancestry composition results

[Alessio]

show your DNA Land

http://i64.tinypic.com/nwjarr.png

http://i66.tinypic.com/2a8gg3p.png

[Nurzat]

I did the autosomal transfer two years ago but I still can't see my results, it shows 0% on both myOrigins and ancientOrigins maps. do you know how do I solve this? I tried to re-load my raw data and it says it's already loaded (of course it is..)

[Voskos]

2%

exeis katholou katagogi apo mikra asia h ponto?

[Thrax]

I did the autosomal transfer two years ago but I still can't see my results, it shows 0% on both myOrigins and ancientOrigins maps. do you know how do I solve this? I tried to re-load my raw data and it says it's already loaded (of course it is..)

You need to pay 20$ to be able to get your results

[Ylla]

Eastern European means that it comes from territory of East Europe. Nothing more detailed then that.

Edit: But finding it in Albanians looks that its strong indicator of mixing with Slavs. especially after update.
Thats how i think, i would like to see more Albo results also whats up with your results, they should already be in, lets hope you will be posting them soon.

Looks like me you and skerdi mixed with slavs. Explains mymtdna.

[Thrax]

exeis katholou katagogi apo mikra asia h ponto?

No, I don't.

[Kelmendasi]

Looks like me you and skerdi mixed with slavs. Explains mymtdna.
Isn't U5a1 ancient in Europe? Also I think I may have some Slavic admix as well

[Dema]

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I dont know, it might be some ancient component not related to modern Slavs but i am still not sure because North had influence on East so maybe thats how you and them got it. You have North/central European.

Anyways you are not Albanian and i said it clearly for Albanians observing their results so far. I should see results of your region and of people similar to you to be able to give some opinion.

[Nurzat]

You need to pay 20$ to be able to get your results

ok I will pay and get back with the results. thanks

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Looks like me you and skerdi mixed with slavs. Explains mymtdna.

May explain his y dna too, he also scores north slavic along with Skerdilaid in dna.land....I get none of that apart of Finland and Northern Siberia component which could mean anything also not present now.

[Kelmendasi]

May explain his y dna too, he also scores north slavic along with Skerdilaid in dna.land....I get none of that apart of Finland and Northern Siberia component which could mean anything also not present now.
Nah, Dema's Ydna is due to ancient Levantines not Slavs

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Nah, Dema's Ydna is due to ancient Levantines not Slavs

I don't man but his clade is spread exclusively to slavic territories not quite present in our lands, I could be wrong thou.
https://s10.postimg.org/68d5adm49/karta_j2b_m205_haplogrupe.png

[Voskos]

No, I don't.

pisteuw exei na kanei me ta reference populations. apo ti stigmh pou exeis px parapanw west asian/Caucasus Hunter Gatherer apo to reference tha sou vgalei ena extra "asia minor" gia na vgoun oi praxeis.

[Kelmendasi]

I don't man but his clade is spread exclusively to slavic territories not quite present in our lands.
[IG]https://s10.postimg.org/68d5adm49/karta_j2b_m205_haplogrupe.png[/IMG]
His haplogroup isn't from Slavs bro, this is confirmed as a Roman gladiator from the Levant had the same haplogroup as Dema

[The Illyrian Warrior]

His haplogroup isn't from Slavs bro, this is confirmed as a Roman gladiator from the Levant had the same haplogroup as Dema

I'm not saying his clade is slavic marker per se like R1a or I2a-din however his clade is mostly present in western balkans dwell by slavs, most likely his clade derives from Romanized people in Balkans who may possibly carry this hg, Kosova was known vlach settlement during middle age same goes for Bosnia where many Vlachs began to settle there.

[Dema]

His haplogroup isn't from Slavs bro, this is confirmed as a Roman gladiator from the Levant had the same haplogroup as Dema


Nah, Dema's Ydna is due to ancient Levantines not Slavs

I think he trolls because i sometimes joke with E-v13.
Anyways regarding me personally we know that we stolen, Islamized and Albanized Serbian bride 6 or 7 generations ago. I even know from what village was she. Its still active Serb village in Kosovo even today. So i expected to score some Slavic.

Ohh he started to post maps from Poreklo lol, he completely gone insane officially now.

[Kelmendasi]

I'm not saying his clade is slavic marker per se like R1a or I2a-din however his clade is mostly present in western balkans dwell by slavs, most likely his clade derives from Romanized people in Balkans who may possibly carry this hg, Kosova was known vlach settlement during middle age same goes for Bosnia where many Vlachs began to settle there.
With this I agree as his haplo is probably from Romans of Levantine origin

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I think he trolls because i sometimes joke with E-v13.
Anyways regarding me personally we know that we stolen, Islamized and Albanized Serbian bride 6 or 7 generations ago. I even know from what village was she. Its still active Serb village in Kosovo even today. So i expected to score some Slavic.

Ohh he started to post maps from Poreklo lol, he completely gone insane officially now.

I'm not being salty here man :D, just want to clear clouds up, no need to get touchy about this, :p

I wasn't bothered to check for the source, but we know that J2b M205 is usually found in Western Balkans where Slavs reside.

[Kelmendasi]

https://s18.postimg.org/oedzu2c0p/Haplogroup-_J2b1.png

[The Illyrian Warrior]

^ I should have posted this instead, but still I would get hate from Dema even though wasn't my intention to hurt or insult him in any way.

[Kelmendasi]

^ I should have posted this instead, but still I would get hate from Dema even though wasn't my intention to hurt or insult him in any way.
Nah I think he knows that you didn't mean it in a bad way

[Skerdilaid]

Looks like me you and skerdi mixed with slavs. Explains mymtdna.

I only got a tit though, or just a nipple ;) Funny, on the previous family finder I scored like 22% Eastern European while you only 4%. Now the roles have been reversed.

[Lek]

Where are the haters now that I get 100% South East Euro?

[Kelmendasi]

Where are the haters now that I get 100% South East Euro?
They haven't got shit to say bro

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Where are the haters now that I get 100% South East Euro?

http://www.beheadingboredom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/japan-riding-dirty.jpg

[Embryo]

There appears to be some Kurwa in there, alright?

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2hydook.jpg

Nice... It seems J2b2 and R1b can't get enough of slavic puss

[Lek]

Nice... It seems J2b2 and R1b can't get enough of slavic puss

Their update is much more accurate imo. Same as my DNALand. All that East Euro before in Albanians and Asia Minor was meaningless. No way all that was Slavic, my assumption was correct. Now, no Asia Minor and a little bit East Euro and West/Central Euro, we mixed here and there a little, makes sense. AncestryDNA is another test where Albanians get high East Euro due to no Balkan/South East European cluster. They need to update it. DNA Tribes calls their South East Euro cluster Aegean. I'm pretty sure I'd get the same results as here.

[Embryo]

Their update is much more accurate imo. Same as my DNALand. All that East Euro before in Albanians and Asia Minor was meaningless. No way all that was Slavic, my assumption was correct. Now, no Asia Minor and a little bit East Euro and West/Central Euro, we mixed here and there a little, makes sense. AncestryDNA is another test where Albanians get high East Euro due to no Balkan/South East European cluster. They need to update it. DNA Tribes calls their South East Euro cluster Aegean. I'm pretty sure I'd get the same results as here.

Yes I like the new update a lot, I get my 8% east euro but I seriously dont understand the 9% british isles and thats why I speculated that it was some half slav-western hybrid somewhere down dad's line, but I don't think there were any westerners in Kosovo/Montenegro/S.Serbia recently

Could just be that ftdna is confused because of my high WHG which could be due to something else

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Yes I like the new update a lot, I get my 8% east euro but I seriously dont understand the 9% british isles and thats why I speculated that it was some half slav-western hybrid somewhere down dad's line, but I don't think there were any westerners in Kosovo/Montenegro/S.Serbia recently

Could just be that ftdna is confused because of my high WHG which could be due to something else

Would be useful if we had Croat results to drop any dilemma.

[Peterski]

There appears to be some Kurwa in there, alright?

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2hydook.jpg

Sorry but 96% is more than "some". That's a lot.

[Voskos]

woa woa fight is on!

[Dick]

Do not take your results from the FTDNA update seriously; Most people have very strange results and some have totally impossible results, absurd!

Example of people with weird results:

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41505


Another person

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41380


Answer, i quote: "The simple truth is that none of these tests are perfect. In fact, they are all very much in need of upgrading and best viewed as works in progress."

Another thread:

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=41496

I quote: "Congratulations FTDNA!!!

Now the results are even strangER than before!

I dont even need to start a new thread, but since there is a new version, then it deserves a new one. Good news is... the strange results are still there!

#MOSR001
Only one parent has X% of an ethnic group, but son/daughter has actually higher percentage.

#MOSR002
Only one parent has 50% of an ethnic group, but son/daughter has 0 (zero) percentage.

#MOSR003
Individual has double digit percentage of an ethnic group, but his matches to this group are ridiculously scarce, e.g. less than 5%.

#MOSR004
Individual has small percentage of an ethnic group, but none of the parents have it.

#MOSR005
Individual has 100% of an ethnic group, but matches have 0% of it.

#MOSR006
Individual with well known very diverse ancestry has simplified (lumped together) ethnic group composition, missing one or more ancestry groups.

#MOSR007
Individual has different ethnic groups shown by other DNA tests.

#MOSR008
Individual has results showing only 99%. Where is the missing 1%?

#MOSR009
Individual has results showing only below 100% European descent, but Ancient Origins show 100% European. A contradiction?

You gotta love this mess... "

LMAO.



Your results can change in a few months.

I have seen that many genetically European people, can get 5 to 10% of Asia Minor origin while they have no ancestors from this part of the world ... it's totally absurd.

I have seen other people who get strange results unrelated to their parents' results!

It is therefore necessary to wait for the final results.


Autosmal dna will never be as accurate like y or Mt

[Dema]

Autosmal dna will never be as accurate like y or Mt


It will in future. You cant even imagine technology we will posses in 2000 or 5000 years from now.

[Ylla]

I only got a tit though, or just a nipple ;) Funny, on the previous family finder I scored like 22% Eastern European while you only 4%. Now the roles have been reversed.

I was suprised when I saw East Euro but even more with Iberian, thats probably just neolithic.

[Kelmendasi]

I was suprised when I saw East Euro but even more with Iberian, thats probably just neolithic.
Or maybe from a Venetian merchant of Iberian Descent or Roman/Celt-Iberian or even a soldier from the Navarre company

[Dick]

It will in future. You cant even imagine technology we will posses in 2000 or 5000 years from now.

Actually I don't imagine but I will now. Thank you.

[Skerdilaid]

Sorry but 96% is more than "some". That's a lot.

96% of awesomeness and only 4% Kurwa, I can live with that my Slavic brotha ;)

[Skerdilaid]

I was suprised when I saw East Euro but even more with Iberian, thats probably just neolithic.

It's all non sense, FTDNA doesn't do phasing and 'British', 'Iberian' or western European components are just 'best fit' along with some eastern Europen for the northern influence we have - it varies from sample to sample. All depends how they have geared their software program. A Malsor scores like 25% western European lol

[HellLander87]

Populations within the Italian peninsula and Greek and Baltic states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The Ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian cultures – such as Samnites and the Umbrians – who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Baltics mostly consisted of small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia).
lol

[Lek]

It's all non sense, FTDNA doesn't do phasing and 'British', 'Iberian' or western European components are just 'best fit' along with some eastern Europen for the northern influence we have - it varies from sample to sample. All depends how they have geared their software program. A Malsor scores like 25% western European lol

Is this person fully malsor? do you know where all his ancestors came from like 500 years ago or more? I doubt it. That person has most likely some norman or goth ancestry considering this test goes like 1300-1000 years back and DNA you would of gotten before that too.. Those populations settled in balkans before slavs came. Albanians would of easily absorbed those populations even in malsia and also doubt all modern malsors lived there all the time.

As for her Iberian, she gets Italian on 23andme and like 91% Balkan and East European noise, a test that goes like only 500 years back. Her results aren't shocking, I predicted it tbh.

I predicted a lot of Albanian results here.

[Alessio]

FTDNA sucks.

[Kelmendasi]

FTDNA sucks.
Yep, they take too long although tbh this update seems really cool and accurate for Balkanites/Albanians

[Alessio]

Yep, they take too long although tbh this update seems really cool and accurate for Balkanites/Albanians

Another Northern South Italian mix who is on every calculator a few pecent more northern than I am got 51 British, 42% Southeast Euro and 7% Middle Eastern.

[Dick]

I was suprised when I saw East Euro but even more with Iberian, thats probably just neolithic.

that looks like a nice mix ;)

[Coolguy1]

How far does ftdna go back? Because im sure every balkanite has some slav in them but many are not scoring east euro at all.

[Ylla]

As for her Iberian, she gets Italian on 23andme and like 91% Balkan and East European noise, a test that goes like only 500 years back. Her results aren't shocking, I predicted it tbh.

I predicted a lot of Albanian results here.

How did you predict my results? lol

[Dick]

How did you predict my results? lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2YWh7wOftaDgtqP6/giphy.gif

[Skerdilaid]

Is this person fully malsor? do you know where all his ancestors came from like 500 years ago or more? I doubt it. That person has most likely some norman or goth ancestry considering this test goes like 1300-1000 years back and DNA you would of gotten before that too.. Those populations settled in balkans before slavs came. Albanians would of easily absorbed those populations even in malsia and also doubt all modern malsors lived there all the time.

As for her Iberian, she gets Italian on 23andme and like 91% Balkan and East European noise, a test that goes like only 500 years back. Her results aren't shocking, I predicted it tbh.

I predicted a lot of Albanian results here.

I wouldn't know if he is full Abanian. I see though eve Serbs and Croats score 'British' etc.


Of course brah, you're the next J2 messiah, just keep guessing that shit xD

[oszkar07]

Interesting Changes.
I find theses score more in line with my Gedmatch calculator scores.
I wonder why FTDNA change things for My Origins, was there a lot of dissatisfaction and criticism of previous results.
Oszkar07
Ethnic Makeup Percentage
African 0%
South Central Africa 0%
East Central Africa 0%
West Africa 0%
New World 0%
North and Central America 0%
South America < 2%
Central/South Asian 0%
Central Asia 0%
Oceania 0%
South Central Asia 0%
East Asian 0%
Northeast Asia 0%
Siberia 0%
Southeast Asia 0%
Middle Eastern 0%
Asia Minor < 2%
East Middle East 0%
North Africa 0%
West Middle East < 2%
European 97%
British Isles 0%
East Europe 27%
Finland 0%
Scandinavia 0%
Southeast Europe 0%
Iberia 0%
West and Central Europe 70%
Jewish Diaspora 0%
Ashkenazi 0%
Sephardic 0%

[Dema]

Why are my posts deleted, who did that?

[Kelmendasi]

How far does ftdna go back? Because im sure every balkanite has some slav in them but many are not scoring east euro at all.
1000 or so years. But bare in mind that the South Eastern Europe category probably includes some South Slavic component as well as South Slavs are a mix of Balkan/south Eastern Europe and Eastern Europe

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

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oh wow

....longbowman!!!!! you gotta see this!!!!

[Coolguy1]

1000 or so years. But bare in mind that the South Eastern Europe category probably includes some South Slavic component as well as South Slavs are a mix of Balkan/south Eastern Europe and Eastern Europe

Thats probably the case, balkanites who score east euro probably have much more immediate Slavic ancestry.

[Geni]

I have 0 east euro..all is south:icon_yes:east..

[Wrong]

IamnotSlav.

[Pahli]

http://i.imgur.com/MzFHvuD.png

8% Sephardic Jew? Where does that shit come from lmao.

[Dema]

I'm not saying his clade is slavic marker per se like R1a or I2a-din however his clade is mostly present in western balkans dwell by slavs, most likely his clade derives from Romanized people in Balkans who may possibly carry this hg, Kosova was known vlach settlement during middle age same goes for Bosnia where many Vlachs began to settle there.

When observing Vlach Aromun genetics there is found plenty of E-V13 but barely one example of J2b1. My hg is none existent among Vlachs unlike your is. Going by these genetic standards you are much more Vlach then i am. On the other hand Vlach is how Sclaveni called all remains of Roman empire population that they found on Balkan so again that would make us both Vlachs. There is no other term for Vlach except original Germanic meaning which is stranger.

Furthermore M205 does not exist in Slavic countries except at Balkan South Slavs that all together have TMRCA 900 years and he was not Slav (do you understand this part?) and i am far away from their group 1000 - 1500 years. Just as much as our Y22066 all together TMRCA is 1500-1600 years.

It means since we arrived in Balkan before 1500 years i split almost immediately from rest of them and i have more distance to their group then their entire TMRCA of 900 years.

What we know for sure its our hg j2b1 m205>ph4306 has Fertile Crescent origin and first expansion also we have few interesting ancient DNA like Roman gladiator found in England. https://j2-m172.info/2016/01/exogenous-roman-era-york-3drif-26-is-j2b1-m205-and-likely-middle-eastener/

See m205 is j2b1 with Fertile Crescent origin while L283 which is J2b2>Z1825>m241>l283 is native in Blakan.
https://j2-m172.info/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/10/J2b-M102-Project-2009_edit-2015.png

We both come out of j2b 16 000 years ago just they emigrated much earlier while we stand to defend the homeland. We escaped just in time like 300 years prior to Arab Islamic conquer of that area. That is why there is great chance we took part in Mesopotamia ancient civilizations from Sumerians and Babylonians to Persians and Assyrians.

Hoping for more ancient dna in future but there is some chance our Balkan TMRCA also improves.

So dont you Vlach me... I fucked whoever i wanted and in the end it was Albanians. For sure i would not fuck ugly Vlachs thats why my Ydna dont exist there. :cool:

I am not interested in Illyrian nor Roman or Greek history, neither Slavic one. For me scoring Sumerian ancient dna would be like telling me that i am part God.

Many civilizations had pictograms but it was them who first simplified them and gave them phonetic characteristics similar to today alphabet, not to mention they were obsessed with writing and we found plenty of their ancient texts.. Akadians the Semitic people first sacked Sumerians when their civilization started to fall. Out of their ruins Babylon has rise. Story of first book starts with Sumer, but these are stories for another thread and perhaps another time ;) :cool:

[Embryo]

When observing Vlach Aromun genetics there is found plenty of E-V13 but barely one example of J2b1. My hg is none existent among Vlachs unlike your is. Going by these genetic standards you are much more Vlach then i am. On the other hand Vlach is how Sclaveni called all remains of Roman empire population that they found on Balkan so again that would make us both Vlachs. There is no other term for Vlach except original germanic meaning which is stranger.

Furthermore M205 does not exist in Slavic countries except at Balkan South Slavs that all together have TMRCA 900 years and he was not Slav (do you understand this part?) and i am far away from their group 1000 - 1500 years. Just as much as our Y22066 all together TMRCA is 1500-1600 years.

It means since we arrived in Balkan before 1500 years i split almost immediately from rest of them and i have more distance to their group then their entire TMRCA of 900 years.

What we know for sure its our hg j2b1 m205>ph4306 has Fertile Cresent origin and first expansion also we have few interesting ancient DNA like Roman gladiator found in England. https://j2-m172.info/2016/01/exogenous-roman-era-york-3drif-26-is-j2b1-m205-and-likely-middle-eastener/

See m205 is j2b1 with Fertile Cresent origin while L283 which is J2b2>Z1825>m241>l283 is native in Blakan.
https://j2-m172.info/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/10/J2b-M102-Project-2009_edit-2015.png

We both come out of j2b 16 000 years ago just they emigrated much earlier while we stand to defend the homeland. We escaped just in time like 300 years prior to Arab Islamic conquer of that area. That is why there is great chance we took part in Mesopotamia ancient civilisations from Sumerians and Babylonians to Persians and Assyrians.

Hoping for more ancient dna in future but there is some chance our Balkan TMRCA also improves.

So dont you Vlach me... I fucked whoever i wanted and in the end it was Albanians. For sure i would not fuck ugly Vlachs thats why my Ydna dont exist there. :cool:

I am not interested in Illyrian nor Roman or Greek history, neither Slavic one. For me scoring Sumerian ancient dna would be like telling me that i am part God.

Many civilizations had pictograms but it was them who first simplified it and gave it phonetic characteristics similar to today alphabet, not to mention they were obsessed with writing and we found plenty of their ancient texts.. Akadians the Semitic people first sacked Sumerians whhen their civilisation started to fall. Out of their ruins Babylon has rise. Story of first book starts with Sumer, but these are stories for another thread and perhaps another time ;) :cool:

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think
http://puu.sh/vaDTt/17820b300f.png

[Kriptc06]

It changed me from 98% euro and the rest Amerindian to 93% euro and 5% Middle East and rest Amerindian.

youre mestizo

[Dema]

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think
http://puu.sh/vaDTt/17820b300f.png

Vlach - Aromuns are j2b2, E-v13, R1b and from Slavs they got R1a and I2a-din. Only one was j2b1.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2005.00251.x/full

[jingorex]

It changed me from 98% euro and the rest Amerindian to 93% euro and 5% Middle East and rest Amerindian.

I thought i saved the first one but cant find it in the bucket thats too bad. anyway here is the updated:

http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w449/dogbiscuits/origins2_zpsvewjqqbr.jpg

[Embryo]

Vlach - Aromuns are j2b2, E-v13, R1b and from Slavs they got R1a and I2a-din. Only one was j2b1.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2005.00251.x/full

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

[Trojet]

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think
http://puu.sh/vaDTt/17820b300f.png

I have looked at these STRs. All of J (48%) in Aromanians from Dukas, Albania is J2b2-L283 and likely PH1751, but if so it would appear to be very distant from the "Gheg Albanian" PH1751, as they have DYS388=17 vs 15, which is very slow to mutate

[Embryo]

I have looked at these STRs. The J in Aromanians from Dukas, Albania is almost all (over 40%) J2b2-L283 and most likely PH1751, but if so it would be very distant from the "Gheg Albanian" PH1751, as they have DYS388=17 which is very slow to mutate

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

[Dema]

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

there are str markers in that research made public. its not so easy to see.

[Trojet]

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

There is STR analysis brother, as they usually don't test for deep SNPs below J2-M172, like L283, etc... Dema is right, they do have considerable amount of J2b2-L283...

[Dema]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

Yes most of Vlachs are Romanized/Latinized Illyrians. It would be strange if there would not be j2b2 E-v13 or R1b among them.

[Embryo]

Dema is right, they do have considerable amount of J2b2-L283...

Very cool and good, but I dont think romanians have that much J2b2 or PH1751 right?

[Trojet]

Very cool and good, but I dont think romanians have that much J2b2 or PH1751 right?

Romanians do have some actually, at about 6-8% according to a study I saw, which is higher than Balkan average outside of Albanians. According to STRs from that study I didn't see any that could be PH1751 subclade.

[Trojet]

I have also looked at a study of Apulians (Italy). Some of their J2b2 appears to be likely PH1751 ;)

[Embryo]

I have also looked at a study of Apulians (Italy). Some of their J2b2 appears to be likely PH1751 ;)

Interesting, thats where the messapians (thought to have been illyrians and Indo-Europeans) settled :p

[Wrong]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.
Told ya broder.

[Trojet]

Interesting, thats where the messapians (thought to have been illyrians and Indo-Europeans) settled :p

It would be interesting if we get some confirmation through FTDNA testing along with a TMRCA estimate, but those areas appear to be heavily under-tested. I would expect this subclade to show up in Bulgaria as well though. There is already a Greek example, but may be Arvanite.

[Dema]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

I think j2b2 was at least Pelasgian, Illyrian, Thracian, Hellenic, Roman.

It is very nicely spread thru area and it has nice TMRCA. Also Italy and Greece are rich in it so everything falls into its place.

Its strange tho Vinca and Starcevo are already tested but we yet cant test Illyrian samples. Also Ancient Greeks are not tested as far as i know.

[Embryo]

I think j2b2 was at least Pelasgian, Illyrian, Thracian, Hellenic, Roman.

It is very nicely spread thru area and it has nice TMRCA. Also Italy and Greece are rich in it so everything falls into its place.

Its strange tho Vinca and Starcevo are already tested but we yet cant test Illyrian samples. Also Ancient Greeks are not tested as far as i know.

Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

[Trojet]

Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

Nah lol. I think E-V13 would be very common among Illyrians (there is a great diversity within this HG in our areas), probably more northern ones. I see J2b2 and R1b's in the Balkans as more south central, perhaps associated with Dardanians, southern Illyrians, Thracian, Ancient Macedonians. Of course this is just a speculation in our part until we get some ancient DNA from the time periods in question.

[Embryo]

Nah, I think E-V13 would be very common among Illyrians (there is a great diversity within this HG in our areas), probably more northern ones. I see J2b2 and some R1b's in the Balkans as more south central, perhaps associated with Dardanians, southern Illyrians, Thracian, Ancient Macedonians. Of course this is just a speculation in our part until we get some ancient DNA from the time periods in question.

All I want to know regarding haplogroups is what Illyrians, Hellenes and Thracians belonged to and what haplogroup Skanderbeg belonged to :D

[Dema]

Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

I suspect both Illyrians and Hellas to be E-v13, j2b2 and R1b. Perhaps that is reason why there is no their results yet.
E-v13 once come from Zoomalia but we civilized them and with time they got whiter :)

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.

[Embryo]

I suspect both Illyrians and Hellas to be E-v13, j2b2 and R1b. Perhaps that is reason why there is no their results yet.
E-v13 once come from Zoomalia but we civilized them and with time they got whiter :)

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.

I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC

[Trojet]

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.


I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC

The biggest problem with this is that there is no laboratory that does ancient DNA analysis as a fee-for-service to my knowledge (I have asked before). This is usually done by western academia, universities and such.
If you ask someone from back home, they would be like what's Y-DNA, lol...

[Dema]

and what haplogroup Skanderbeg belonged to :D

Actually my friend is Arbanas from Zadar and Arbanasi say for themselves that they belong to house of Kastrioti, therefore same clan as Skenderbeg.
To be more interesting his surname is Gjergja and i found him on the list where Croatian Catholic priests written them as they were arriving. Also free land was given to them.

I will have meeting with him soon and try to talk him into a testing. Sounds really interesting for sure, but i dont know how much chance is there that he is same paternal line as Skenderbeu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_people

[Wrong]

I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC
it is the biggest problem.

[Wrong]

Actually my friend is Arbanas from Zadar and Arbanasi say for themselves that they belong to house of Kastrioti, therefore same clan as Skenderbeg.
To be more interesting his surname is Gjergja and i found him on the list where Croatian Catholic priests written them as they were arriving. Also free land was given to them.

I will have meeting with him soon and try to talk him into a testing. Sounds really interesting for sure, but i dont know how much chance is there that he is same paternal line as Skenderbeu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_people
Kastrioti were from around Dibra area, so most likely J2b2/R1b/EV13 indeed.

[Mortimer]

https://s21.postimg.org/flxt44g9j/myoriginsupdate2.0.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/f96exxxzn/)20mb image hosting (https://postimage.org/)

[Kriptc06]

[rl]

interesting, Iberia...

and oh boy they are handing out free south american to everyone xD

[Mortimer]

interesting, Iberia...

and oh boy they are handing out free south american to everyone xD

interesting yes, why the iberian in some balkan users or users who are partly balkan like me

[Alessio]

interesting yes, why the iberian in some balkan users or users who are partly balkan like me

Because it sucks.

[EdAlencar]

My results are a mess. All my known relatives were/are from Portugal and I score no Iberian. On the other hand, I score Italian and Greek (central and east Europe). It doesn't make sense.

[Kriptc06]

Am I the only one that got somewhat coherent results?
Lol I wonder if this is a April fools prank then

[Kelmendasi]

Am I the only one that got somewhat coherent results?
Lol I wonder if this is a April fools prank then
Oh shit maybe it was lolololol. In all seriousness I doubt it was a prank as they are too serious of a company to do this I think and for Balkanites this new update seems legit

[Alessio]

Oh shit maybe it was lolololol. In all seriousness I doubt it was a prank as they are too serious of a company to do this I think and for Balkanites this new update seems legit

You only say this becuase the Albanians here got almost a 100% Southeastern Euro. As if that says anything; most of Italy along with the Balkan are lumped together.

[Alessio]

Oh shit maybe it was lolololol. In all seriousness I doubt it was a prank as they are too serious of a company to do this I think and for Balkanites this new update seems legit

You only say this becuase the Albanians here got almost a 100% Southeastern Euro and this feeds your wishes to be a 'real' Albanian (no offense). As if that says anything; most of Italy along with the Balkan are lumped together and this already makes this ''Southeastern Euro'' to broad of a cluster. FTDNA's MyOrigins 2.0 fails in estimating ancestry for mixed individuals.

[Kelmendasi]

You only say this becuase the Albanians here got almost a 100% Southeastern Euro. As if that says anything; most of Italy along with the Balkan are lumped together.
Yh, it's obvious that Albanians have mixed with their neighbors which are still Balkanic though

[Kelmendasi]

You only say this becuase the Albanians here got almost a 100% Southeastern Euro and this feeds your wishes to be a 'real' Albanian (no offense). As if that says anything; most of Italy along with the Balkan are lumped together and this already makes this ''Southeastern Euro'' to broad of a cluster.
None taken

[knowledge is king]

Maybe I have sufficiently atypical DNA, that processing of it took additional time. Actually my results are still processing.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You only say this becuase the Albanians here got almost a 100% Southeastern Euro and this feeds your wishes to be a 'real' Albanian (no offense). As if that says anything; most of Italy along with the Balkan are lumped together and this already makes this ''Southeastern Euro'' to broad of a cluster. FTDNA's MyOrigins 2.0 fails in estimating ancestry for mixed individuals.

I agree with you, they seem to be not accurate with people of different background and Italians shouldn't be lumped together with Balkanites even though we plot not far from each other.

[Kriptc06]

Oh shit maybe it was lolololol. In all seriousness I doubt it was a prank as they are too serious of a company to do this I think and for Balkanites this new update seems legit

Yeah, I have South slav ancestry and it seams spot on for me, I have also other spycis xD, looks fine for me

[Sikeliot]

If anyone is wondering, for the Sicilian results I have seen, they range from also scoring 100% SE European, to ending up with about 25% of Middle Eastern.

[Enflamme]

If anyone is wondering, for the Sicilian results I have seen, they range from also scoring 100% SE European, to ending up with about 25% of Middle Eastern.

I saw a person who got 16% Scandinavian origin while the person's parents, who also have a kit on FTDNA, get 0% Scandinavian origin ...

This is the magic of FTDNA MyOrigins update (and in general)! That is totally inaccurate.

[EdAlencar]

how much native and SSA?

http://i.imgur.com/CTVJhvv.png

I don't know what to think of this update. haha Where is my Iberian side?

[Kriptc06]

http://i.imgur.com/CTVJhvv.png

I don't know what to think of this update. haha Where is my Iberian side?

Your results are almost a copy-pasta of mine lol
64524
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64524&d=1491508049

[EdAlencar]

Your results are almost a copy-pasta of mine lol

What part of Brazil do you live in?

[knowledge is king]

As I promised, my former and current results are here. I am 3% Southeast Asian now!

It was

1. East Asian 52%
..... Northeast Asia 52%

2. European 25%
..... Finland and Northern Siberia 14%
..... Easter Europe 9%
..... British Isles 2%

3. Middle Eastern 11%
..... Eastern Middle East 11%

4. Central/South Asian 8%
..... Central Asia 8%

5. New World 3%
..... Native American 3%

It is

1. East asian 55%
..... Norttheast asia 37%
..... Siberia 15%
..... Southeast asia 3%

2. European 17%
..... East Europe 12%
..... Finland 5%

3. Middle eastern 17%
..... Asia minor 17%

4. Central/South Asian 9%
..... Central Asia 9%

5. Trace results 2%
..... South America <2%


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jkvD-keHMf4/WOa5O-Yi_cI/AAAAAAAAGzg/SUkyvhSRX8cEojlDtF4msoNE90Arai8-gCLcB/s1600/2017-04-06_13-42-40.png

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vS9cAkHwUtg/WOa3poXVoOI/AAAAAAAAGzU/PKjhtV28WR04lQlY_vjSouFptZmK04sPQCLcB/s1600/2017-03-28_11-39-48.png


Also try to compare it with my eurogenes admixture composition:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-thMnamLmpzg/WNyMC6dvoEI/AAAAAAAAGrc/PI1Fjgx9TpYX8NfnQB7M5t7PoVN4Fh3VACLcB/s1600/Eurogenes%2BK13%2B1.png


I am very grateful to you for your attention.

[Erronkari]

64526

[Kriptc06]

64526

Wow, a lot of Iberian there

[Erronkari]

Wow, a lot of Iberian there

I really feel suprised, friend... Because I see that I am more homogeneous than which I thought. ;)

[Kriptc06]

I really feel suprised, friend... Because I see that I am more homogeneous than which I thought. ;)

Do you have any Italian?

[Erronkari]

Do you have any Italian?

I had an italian grandmother (my dad's mother), from Pisa, Tuscany.
But a very big part of our family from that side also comes from Spain, indeed her surname was "De Cori", but it was changed in Italy, it was originally "Coria".
Believe or not haha.

[Erronkari]

Which is weird is that I scored 12.42% italian according Gedmatch Eurogeneses K36... but well... any calculator whith its algorithm...

[Kriptc06]

I had an italian grandmother (my dad's mother), from Pisa, Tuscany.
But a very big part of our family from that side also comes from Spain, indeed her surname was "De Cori", but it was changed in Italy, it was originally "Coria".
Believe or not haha.

cool, oh I just realised you have oit written in your profile lol,

[Erronkari]

Exactly mate.
Even, which calculator is more accurate... anybody knows... :p

[Argentano]

http://i.imgur.com/CTVJhvv.png

I don't know what to think of this update. haha Where is my Iberian side?

I guess in south/west euro

Your results are almost a copy-pasta of mine lol
64524
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64524&d=1491508049

i was going to say the same, very similar.

Interesting that while being similar geneticaly, maybe one identifies as white and the other as pardo.

[Kriptc06]

I guess in south/west euro


i was going to say the same, very similar.

Interesting that while being similar geneticaly, maybe one identifies as white and the other as pardo.

others consider me white here, if I ever bring the subject of african or native I get mocked on or laughed about, no one take it seriously..
but I'm proud for my slav side finally showing up, thats all that matters lol, i could be half black, id still be proud of my slavness.

[EdAlencar]

I guess in south/west euro


i was going to say the same, very similar.

Interesting that while being similar geneticaly, maybe one identifies as white and the other as pardo.

The highlighted Iberian area belongs to "my" Serphadic heritage, which accounts for less than 2% of the DNA.

A lot of this east Europe should be Iberia. I just feel like this result is a bit off of the reality. Other calculators show a lot of west/Central Europe, but for me (and for now), being west/east European means nothing if Iberia is not there. I also think that the North African part is exaggerated (9%).

[Kriptc06]

The highlighted Iberian area belongs to "my" Serphadic heritage, which accounts for less than 2% of the DNA.

A lot of this east Europe should be Iberia. I just feel like this result is a bit off of the reality. Other calculators show a lot of west/Central Europe, but for me (and for now), being west/east European means nothing if Iberia is not there. I also think that the North African part is exaggerated (9%).

You really have dutch ancestry? how do you know? northeast Brazil or Olambra? I've always heard tales of having Dutch ancestry too, but my "Brit isles", former central-west euro, is probably my azorean side, flemish, as I have seen in my family tree that I have Van der Haegen (da Silveira) among other surnames..
I wonder if that could be a combo of Flemish and very little Dutch, because 21%, or 23 as it was is very a very big chunk..

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_van_der_Haegen

[Alessio]

If anyone is wondering, for the Sicilian results I have seen, they range from also scoring 100% SE European, to ending up with about 25% of Middle Eastern.

I should've got more ME also as one friend of mine got 42% Southeastern Euro and an additional 8% ME, while she always comes out more northern than me (southern Lazio and British).

[Petalpusher]

I didn't test on FT so only my dad's update:

He's 50% Burgundy+Isère and 50% Swiss (1/4 French/German + 1/4 Lombardy), it's somehow accurate but what the hell FTDNA, East Europe is not counted as European? Since when xD

https://s18.postimg.org/u9734rkih/ftdadupd1.jpg

[Lucas]

I didn't test on FT so only my dad's update:

He's 50% Burgundy+Isère and 50% Swiss (1/4 French/German + 1/4 Lombardy), it's somehow accurate but what the hell FTDNA, East Europe is not counted as European? Since when xD


Maybe because it's trace region.
But in my case trace region wasn't counted. I was 100% European (97% East Euro, 3% SE Euro). And my one trace region was West Middle East (not summarized).

[Kriptc06]

I didn't test on FT so only my dad's update:

He's 50% Burgundy+Isère and 50% Swiss (1/4 French/German + 1/4 Lombardy), it's somehow accurate but what the hell FTDNA, East Europe is not counted as European? Since when xD

httpspg

No, it's because its a trace region,

[Petalpusher]

Maybe because it's trace region.
But in my case trace region wasn't counted. I was 100% European (97% East Euro, 3% SE Euro). And my one trace region was West Middle East (not summarized).

Yes i guess that's the reason, still their system doesn't make sense. Trace regions should be counted as Euro if it is and non Euro if it isn't.

[Voskos]

Italian:

75% European
71% Southeast Europe
2% East Europe
2% Finnish

20% Asia Minor

5% Ashkenazi

Bulgarian:

84% Southeast Euro; 9% East Euro; 7% Scandinavia 2% of South America

Maltese:

Middle Eastern 20%

-------------

Asia Minor (Turkey) 12%
East Middle east 0%
North Africa 8%
West Middle east 0%

European 80%

-----------------

British Isles 10%
East Europe 0%
Finland 0%
Scandinavia 0%
South East Europe 55%
Iberia 9%
West and Central Europe 6%

Jewish diaspora

Ashkenazi 0%
Sephardic 0%

Italian:

My new myOrigins:
(N. Italian ancestry)
- Southeast Europe: 44%;
- British Isles: 19%;
- Iberia: 18%;
- East Europe: 10%;
- Scandinavia: 6%.
Trace results:
- Ashkenazi: <2%

[Longbowman]

Better than before, but not by much. More detailed, same accuracy, IMO. Could stand to improve still.

90% Ashkenazi
5% Sephardic
3% Southeast Europe
<2% North Africa
<2% South America (MyHeritage gives me this too for some reason but it's obviously bogus)
<2% West Middle East

[Dragoon]

East Euro 94%
West Middle East 4%
Ashkenazi <2%
North and Central America <2%

These sites are not perfect. And theres lots of reasons for that. There will probably improvements over the next decade or two.
The criteria for these groups probably range from dna site to dna site.
Still dont know how far back ftdna goes.
I dont have any Native/Aboriginal American in me (I would bet a good sum on that, nothing against them of course).

The results are different from 23andme (what my brother and mom got). Somewhat close, in that they both picked up large amount of Eastern Europe

[Enflamme]

I didn't test on FT so only my dad's update:

He's 50% Burgundy+Isère and 50% Swiss (1/4 French/German + 1/4 Lombardy), it's somehow accurate but what the hell FTDNA, East Europe is not counted as European? Since when xD



Almost the same results than me.

Bullshit Asia Minor...

[HellLander87]

https://s10.postimg.org/46hfvq9ex/resu.png

[EdAlencar]

You really have dutch ancestry? how do you know? northeast Brazil or Olambra? I've always heard tales of having Dutch ancestry too, but my "Brit isles", former central-west euro, is probably my azorean side, flemish, as I have seen in my family tree that I have Van der Haegen (da Silveira) among other surnames..
I wonder if that could be a combo of Flemish and very little Dutch, because 21%, or 23 as it was is very a very big chunk..

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_van_der_Haegen

The only reason why I did a DNA test was to find out whether the Dutch ancestry would be confirmed, but I knew it would hardly show up, as 10 generations have passed since the Dutch invaded my area (Pernambuco). A lot of people today in my region still have that non-Portuguese appearance, many of them indeeed have some Dutch blood, but due to the circumstances, their roots had to be forgotten as they were persecuted. According to studies, Dutch people could have contributed to at least 1 million people's DNA in the northeast. I have Wilker in my family tree (same as Jose Wilker, who is also from my city), but the known Dutch heritage came from my fathers side (as far as I know). They just knew they descended from Dutch, my great great grandfather had no surname, later on they addopted "Cazuza" (menino danado) as their surname, but this surname was not passed down to us.

After getting my results I found out I had 7% Scandinavian, of course this number is inflated, but when I checked my distant cousins, many of them were non Portuguese... some were Dutch, some were Norwegian (5th cousin), some Finnish... the only thing we know well is my Portuguese mothers side, as the Alencar family has been involved in some wars with other families and some movements like the Pernambucan Revolution and Equador Confederation, they also have a small museum, which kept our history alive, other than that is just common knowledge. My parents did not finish high school, my grandparents didn't go to school, yet we knew we had some Dutch and we know there were some Jewish... it was not until I had history class and understood how our region was colonized that I understood that this "tale" could reflect reality. And the same goes to the African and Native American heritage... we know we have it, but don't know when, who, how, where. I have no recent European contribution to my DNA. All my family came to "Brazil" before the 1700s. All my family comes from small villages from the Northeast (Pernambuco, Paraíba, Alagoas, Ceará), small villages whose habitants are predominantly white and light features (eyes/hair) are very common.

[Sikeliot]

Italian:

75% European
71% Southeast Europe
2% East Europe
2% Finnish

20% Asia Minor

5% Ashkenazi


Asia Minor is high. Where is this person from specifically?

[Jana]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/4r9650.jpg
http://oi63.tinypic.com/14m8ff8.jpg

[Pahli]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/4r9650.jpg
http://oi63.tinypic.com/14m8ff8.jpg

How are you and Stears btw? :laugh:

[Kriptc06]

The only reason why I did a DNA test was to find out whether the Dutch ancestry would be confirmed, but I knew it would hardly show up, as 10 generations have passed since the Dutch invaded my area (Pernambuco). A lot of people today in my region still have that non-Portuguese appearance, many of them indeeed have some Dutch blood, but due to the circumstances, their roots had to be forgotten as they were persecuted. According to studies, Dutch people could have contributed to at least 1 million people's DNA in the northeast. I have Wilker in my family tree (same as Jose Wilker, who is also from my city), but the known Dutch heritage came from my fathers side (as far as I know). They just knew they descended from Dutch, my great great grandfather had no surname, later on they addopted "Cazuza" (menino danado) as their surname, but this surname was not passed down to us.

After getting my results I found out I had 7% Scandinavian, of course this number is inflated, but when I checked my distant cousins, many of them were non Portuguese... some were Dutch, some were Norwegian (5th cousin), some Finnish... the only thing we know well is my Portuguese mothers side, as the Alencar family has been involved in some wars with other families and some movements like the Pernambucan Revolution and Equador Confederation, they also have a small museum, which kept our history alive, other than that is just common knowledge. My parents did not finish high school, my grandparents didn't go to school, yet we knew we had some Dutch and we know there were some Jewish... it was not until I had history class and understood how our region was colonized that I understood that this "tale" could reflect reality. And the same goes to the African and Native American heritage... we know we have it, but don't know when, who, how, where. I have no recent European contribution to my DNA. All my family came to "Brazil" before the 1700s. All my family comes from small villages from the Northeast (Pernambuco, Paraíba, Alagoas, Ceará), small villages whose habitants are predominantly white and light features (eyes/hair) are very common.

I have ancestry from the interior of PE, my granny is light haired and eyed, blueish/gray, I strongly suspect she has Dutch, along with the family tales ofc. I'll PM u so we can talk about it better. That's why I suspect that I have a little Dutch + my confirmed Flemish, but I'd have never guess it would be over 20%

[Voskos]

[/IMG]

was expecting to see some cuman traces regions

[Vascontelo]

https://s13.postimg.org/i87jw4bo7/jew2.jpg

[Ylla]

x

How much Iberian?

[Vascontelo]

How much Iberian?

38

[Voskos]

FYROM:

Middle Eastern 12%

Asia Minor

12%

East Middle East

0%

North Africa

0%

West Middle East

0%


European 71%

British Isles

0%

East Europe

47%

Finland

0%

Scandinavia

0%

Southeast Europe

24%

Iberia

0%

West and Central Europe

0%


Jewish Diaspora 17%

Ashkenazi

0%

Sephardic

17%

[Africa]

Troo African, are you North African? May you share your gedmatch nun?

I am from black community in north africa

[Enflamme]

Asia Minor is high. Where is this person from specifically?

This dna test is not representative of recent ancestors: FTDNA seems to reflect the ancestors of people over 2000 years (according to themselves; people of FTDNA was told me that by email when I asked them a question).

For example, a person could be 95% European on FTDNA (get 5% from minor asia) and at the same time 100% of European origin on 23andme.

[Borgias]

I'm of South Italy, central Apulia. The new MyOrigins is better then the oldest.
My old result: 65% South Europe and 35% Asia Minor
My results are now accurate:
European 98% : Southest Europe 94% , West and Central Europe 4%;
Traces: South Central Asia, South America, West Middle Est.
64545

[knowledge is king]

xxx

I am glad you had received those, finally.

[Vascontelo]

I am glad you had received those, finally.

Thanks dude!

[Karol Klačansky]

my results

European 100%
East Europe 52%
British Isles 34%
Southeast Europe 8%
Scandinavia 6%

[Graham]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17888116_10155118755675421_591845500_n.png?oh=c6c3 dff6b5e67ef8b66500fc2ac9b3d4&oe=58EDB376https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/17886865_10155118761335421_861845924_o.png?oh=af1d b2ed0974ddbce5df6e7b459561d0&oe=58EE6B1C

[knowledge is king]

You are the pure Scottish, congrats!

[Vascontelo]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17888116_10155118755675421_591845500_n.png?oh=c6c3 dff6b5e67ef8b66500fc2ac9b3d4&oe=58EDB376https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/17886865_10155118761335421_861845924_o.png?oh=af1d b2ed0974ddbce5df6e7b459561d0&oe=58EE6B1C

woah

[Enflamme]

I'm of South Italy, central Apulia. The new MyOrigins is better then the oldest.
My old result: 65% South Europe and 35% Asia Minor
My results are now accurate:
European 98% : Southest Europe 94% , West and Central Europe 4%;
Traces: South Central Asia, South America, West Middle Est.
64545

This does not seem "accurate" for everyone, because I have seen people who have totally fanciful results and do not match their genealogical ... after, according to FTDNA, the results reflect our origins on more than 2000 years ... so, not recent ancestors (not on the last 1000 years).

[Borgias]

This does not seem "accurate" for everyone, because I have seen people who have totally fanciful results and do not match their genealogical ... after, according to FTDNA, the results reflect our origins on more than 2000 years ... so, not recent ancestors (not on the last 1000 years).

I'm southern Italy. Based on my documented genealogy in each branch up to 1400, and for some branches even further, I have also far ancestors of North Italy,Croatia, England, France, German, Spain, and the oldest Normans and Lombards. These are also confirmed by the match from these Nations on FTDNA.
In my case, the new MyOrigins is better then the oldest.I expected only a percentage or trace at least from Spain.

[Potentia]

I'm not all too sure that this is accurate.

As, I really don't think I have Eastern European Ancestry. Besides Iberian, I have German, British, and Norwegian ancestry.... Where did my British and German go?

Also, Asia Minor? I wonder if that could be my Sephardic Ancestry.

https://i.gyazo.com/d979836297fb0d6fcec9c610ca460613.png

[Albannach]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17888116_10155118755675421_591845500_n.png?oh=c6c3 dff6b5e67ef8b66500fc2ac9b3d4&oe=58EDB376https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/17886865_10155118761335421_861845924_o.png?oh=af1d b2ed0974ddbce5df6e7b459561d0&oe=58EE6B1C

It's odd that with ancestry from Shetland, Northumbria and Cumbria you get 0% Scandinavian. I got 100% British isles in the old myorigins but now I'm getting 13% Scandanavian and 2% South East European and 1% Oceanian!

[Kelmendasi]

https://s18.postimg.org/g6yo3hcux/Screenshot-2017-04-13_11.45.34.png

[Dema]

https://s18.postimg.org/oedzu2c0p/Haplogroup-_J2b1.png

That map is also wrong, also the spot you see in Russia is mistake, it doesn't exist there.

[Dema]

nvm... Era then dont troll if you cant take some trolling back, to make it worse i was not trolling. :D

[knowledge is king]

On the profile page, new health report is available, you can check it now. Who ordered it already for 50$?

[Kelmendasi]

On the profile page, new health report is available, you can check it now. Who ordered it already for 50$?
Yh I saw this as well seems interesting tbh. Not sure if I will order it though

[DarknessWin]

Yeah I know, 100% Balkan stronk. :cool:

This is Med , not Balkan actually

[Kelmendasi]

This is Med , not Balkan actually
Not really. The main reference populations are Balkanites. It's Southeast Europe like Ftdna says

[knowledge is king]

No need to be shy. You should order it and post the results here so we can see it. Who is the first?

[Kelmendasi]

No need to be shy. You should order it and post the results here so we can see it. Who is the first?
Will see. It seems interesting and cool but I don't know how accurate it is since I haven't even heard of this feature before must be a new feature

[DarknessWin]

Not really. The main reference populations are Balkanites. It's Southeast Europe like Ftdna says

Read what it say , its based in Romans and Greeks so this is Med and not Balkan.

[Kelmendasi]

Read what it say , its based in Romans and Greeks so this is Med and not Balkan.
I have read it as I scored 100% Southeast Europe lol. It says that these people are the most related to the Neolithic farmers that settled there, it is Med in a sense since the Balkans are Med but it isn't conclusively Med, the reference for this category is Italy, Greece and the Balkans although it is mostly concentrated in the Balkans as Balkanites are the ones that score 100% of this mainly Albos, I would like to see some more Greek results tbh and see if they also score 100% Southeast Euro as well

[DarknessWin]

I have read it as I scored 100% Southeast Europe lol. It says that these people are the most related to the Neolithic farmers that settled there, it is Med in a sense since the Balkans are Med but it isn't conclusively Med, the reference for this category is Italy, Greece and the Balkans although it is mostly concentrated in the Balkans as Balkanites are the ones that score 100% of this mainly Albos, I would like to see some more Greek results tbh and see if they also score 100% Southeast Euro as well

Illyrians must score east Europe or British isles (Celtic) , so this dont make sense

[Kelmendasi]

Illyrians must score east Europe or British isles (Celtic) , so this dont make sense
Maybe or maybe not we will never know I guess lol but I wouldn't say East Europe as that is linked with Slavs in the new MyOrigins but they definitely were mainly Southeast Europe . I didn't make up the reference Ftdna did and it mainly seems to be of Balkan influence and not Italian as you don't see Italians getting 100% Southeast Europe but Balkanites on the other hand do, and I don't know where you saw it saying that it is Greek and Roman, it does mention them but it doesn't say that the cluster is made up of those groups. Have you tested?

[Kelmendasi]

From Ftdna: "Southeast Europe

The Southeast Europe cluster consists of present day populations from the areas of Italy, Greece, and the western Balkan states from Bulgaria to Croatia.

Present day populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe roughly 11,000 years ago. This wave of migration consisted of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent and expanded primarily into southern Europe, incorporating small scattered European hunter-gatherer communities along their path.

The island of Sardinia, having early evidence of postglacial hunter-gatherer inhabitants, was not permanently settled until this migration of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent populated it roughly 8,000 – 7,000 years ago. Although a key position in early Mediterranean trade routes, the populations of Sardinia remained relatively isolated genetically, and today, represent a particularly unique connection to Southeast European Neolithic ancestry.

Populations within the Italian peninsula and Greek and Baltic states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The Ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian cultures – such as Samnites and the Umbrians - who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Baltics were largely small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia).

Migrations from Alexander the Great and the Roman expansion, as well as migrations from Slavic tribes, having been forced from the Carpathians by Germanic tribes in the 5th - 6th centuries, into this region illustrate the international reach of these early civilizations.

The Southeast Europe cluster is home to civilizations that many consider to have founded the principles of Western civilization, and continue to influence modern politics, art, and architecture. Greek and Roman influence spans the western and southern regions of this cluster, while the influence of the Hellenistic world of Macedonia and Alexander the Great encompass the Western Balkan states."
Btw the author or whatever they are called accidentally calls the western Balkans Baltic at one point

[DarknessWin]

From Ftdna: "Southeast Europe

The Southeast Europe cluster consists of present day populations from the areas of Italy, Greece, and the western Balkan states from Bulgaria to Croatia.

Present day populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe roughly 11,000 years ago. This wave of migration consisted of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent and expanded primarily into southern Europe, incorporating small scattered European hunter-gatherer communities along their path.

The island of Sardinia, having early evidence of postglacial hunter-gatherer inhabitants, was not permanently settled until this migration of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent populated it roughly 8,000 – 7,000 years ago. Although a key position in early Mediterranean trade routes, the populations of Sardinia remained relatively isolated genetically, and today, represent a particularly unique connection to Southeast European Neolithic ancestry.

Populations within the Italian peninsula and Greek and Baltic states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The Ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian cultures – such as Samnites and the Umbrians - who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Baltics were largely small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia).

Migrations from Alexander the Great and the Roman expansion, as well as migrations from Slavic tribes, having been forced from the Carpathians by Germanic tribes in the 5th - 6th centuries, into this region illustrate the international reach of these early civilizations.

The Southeast Europe cluster is home to civilizations that many consider to have founded the principles of Western civilization, and continue to influence modern politics, art, and architecture. Greek and Roman influence spans the western and southern regions of this cluster, while the influence of the Hellenistic world of Macedonia and Alexander the Great encompass the Western Balkan states."
Btw the author or whatever they are called accidentally calls the western Balkans Baltic at one point

Yeah but if you see the map its mostly italy and Greece with the darker color and then is the west balkan so this make it mostly Med populations.
anyway......

[Kelmendasi]

Yeah but if you see the map its mostly italy and Greece with the darker color and then is the west balkan so this make it mostly Med populations.
anyway......
Yes I agree that those regions are darker, but still they don't seem to make up the bulk of this category as they don't score 100% Southeast Europe not sure about Greeks though but Italians for one don't score 100% of it.

[Kamal900]

West Middle Eastern 41%
Asia Minor 30%
North Africa 3%
Sephardic Jew 22%
South east Asia 2%
South central asia 2%
eastern Europe 2%

[Voskos]

jewish is a proxy for ancient levantine ancestry

[Kriptc06]

For me, and some friends, few Trace Results changed from <2% to <1%, It looks a bit even now and "better".

Check yours;

[knowledge is king]

I got the same update. it looks better for now.

[Pahli]

Asia Minor 70%
Central Asia 16%
Sephardic 8%
West Middle East 4%
East Middle East < 2%

[Lek]

https://s20.postimg.org/k87vbdlrh/IMG_20170620_101406.png

[kingjohn]

I'm not all too sure that this is accurate.

As, I really don't think I have Eastern European Ancestry. Besides Iberian, I have German, British, and Norwegian ancestry.... Where did my British and German go?

Also, Asia Minor? I wonder if that could be my Sephardic Ancestry.

https://i.gyazo.com/d979836297fb0d6fcec9c610ca460613.png
cool results :)
maybe your german ancestors where from eastern germany ?
because eastern germans do score this eastern european component ...
regards
adam

[Longbowman]

FTDNA is rubbish compared to other major companies. For example, my girlfriend's 23andme pretty accurately represented her (1/4 British, 1/8 German (South Tyrol), 1/8 Italian, 1/2 Chinese). FTDNA gives her 40% SE Asia, 10% NE Asia, 28% Eastern Europe (?), 15% West Euro, only 6% British, trace Scando and SE Euro.

It's just an anecdote but we all know dozens of similarly barmy results.

[kingjohn]

did you try my heritage ?
if you do can you share your results in the forum
regards
adam

p.s
they{ ftdna my origins 2.0} notice your sefhardi
and also my sefhardi

maybe they read her german as eastern european and also west central euro

[Enflamme]

FTDNA is rubbish compared to other major companies. For example, my girlfriend's 23andme pretty accurately represented her (1/4 British, 1/8 German (South Tyrol), 1/8 Italian, 1/2 Chinese). FTDNA gives her 40% SE Asia, 10% NE Asia, 28% Eastern Europe (?), 15% West Euro, only 6% British, trace Scando and SE Euro.

It's just an anecdote but we all know dozens of similarly barmy results.

The update is inexact on many points ...

Already, some Europeans get 1 to 5 (or even more) percent of Asia Minor origin (and this is not a "Moorish" origin); Finnish origin is not recognized as European and "Eastern Europe" also (although it depends on people?).

No sense...