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Böri
04-05-2017, 11:23 AM
Gagauz are Turks of Oghuz group like Turkish and Azeri and Turkmenians.

http://i.hizliresim.com/V0DWyy.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/V0DWyy)

Wadaad
04-05-2017, 11:36 AM
Gagauz are Turks of Oghuz group like Turkish and Azeri and Turkmenians.

http://i.hizliresim.com/V0DWyy.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/V0DWyy)

if you told me she was a Swiss milk maiden I would not doubt...

Seya
04-05-2017, 11:38 AM
Gagauz people are genetically identical with the moldavians...they just speak a turkic language

Wadaad
04-05-2017, 11:39 AM
Gagauz people are genetically identical with the moldavians...they just speak a turkic language

makes sense, because this lady looks nothing Azeri or Turkomen

Wrong
04-05-2017, 11:40 AM
The Gagauzes, although speaking a Turkic language, belong genetically to the Balkan populations and the Gagauz language represents a case of language replacement. Gagauz belong to Y-DNA haplogroups I2a (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438) (23.6%), R1a (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a) (19.1%), G (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_(Y-DNA)) (13.5%), R1b (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b) (12.4%), E1b1b1a1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68) (11.1%). Haplogroups J2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M172) (5.6%) and Haplogroup N (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N_(Y-DNA)) (2.2%) are represented among Gagauzes at a usual frequency for many European and Balkan peoples. Finally, the phylogenetic analysis of Y-DNA situates Gagauzes most proximal to Macedonians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_(ethnic_group)), Serbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs) and other Balkan populations, resulting in a high genetic distance from the Turkish people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_people) and other Turkic peoples (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples).

OWDness.

Böri
04-05-2017, 11:44 AM
The buthurtness makes me cry here. İ see mostly jaleousy not classification. Stop being jaleous. They are Orthodox Turks period and this is how they identify. They are from Seljuks too.So they are technically closer to us than Kipchak Turks and Karluk etc coz Gagauz are Oghuz. So dont repeat your BS just classify.

http://i.hizliresim.com/ALzr3p.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ALzr3p)

Seya
04-05-2017, 11:50 AM
İ see mostly jaleousy not classification. Stop being jaleous. They are Orthodox Turks period and this is how they identify. They are from Seljuks too.So they are technically closer to us than Kipchak Turks and Karluk etc coz Gagauz are Oghuz.

http://i.hizliresim.com/ALzr3p.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ALzr3p)

how are they close to u if they are Christian Orthodox and genetically moldavians?

Böri
04-05-2017, 11:52 AM
how are they close to u if they are Christian Orthodox and genetically moldavians?

Because they are Turks. Are you crazy?
Yes they are Orthodox and yes they are lighter than Turks average but what this has to do with their ethnicity, ancestry, identity etc? They are Turks, Oghuz and from Seljuks (Christian Seljuks) just that. You want to discuss things WHİCH CANNOT BE DISCUSSED.

Wrong
04-05-2017, 11:57 AM
Because they are Turks. Are you crazy?
Yes they are Orthodox and yes they are lighter than Turks average but what this has to do with their ethnicity, ancestry, identity etc? They are Turks, Oghuz and from Seljuks (Christian Seljuks) just that. You want to discuss things WHİCH CANNOT BE DISCUSSED.
resulting in a high genetic distance from the Turkish people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_people) and other Turkic peoples (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples).

Seya
04-05-2017, 11:57 AM
Because they are Turks. Are you crazy?
Yes they are Orthodox and yes they are lighter than Turks average but what this has to do with their ethnicity, ancestry, identity etc? They are Turks, Oghuz and from Seljuks (Christian Seljuks) just that. You want to discuss things WHİCH CANNOT BE DISCUSSED.

u can thumb me down as much as u want..that wont change their ancestry

Wrong
04-05-2017, 11:58 AM
They are just Eastern Balkanoids with minor Turkic admixture, nothing else.

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:00 PM
u can thumb me down as much as u want..that wont change their ancestry

You had 12 thumbs down now you have 14 and deserved. This is classification thread and with all hurtness you and fellow jump:
'No no no they are not Turks they are Moldavs crrrrr hrghhhhhhhh, :)
Are you aware what you do?
OP girl is Gagauz and Gagauz are a Turkic Oghuz People. You put this in your head and this is not discussable thing. Now you are welcome if you want to classify.

Seya
04-05-2017, 12:01 PM
They are just Eastern Balkanoids with minor Turkic admixture, nothing else.

i've seen many results..they don't have any turkic admixture..not more then any other east balkanit at least...i have more then an average gagauz )))

Antimage
04-05-2017, 12:03 PM
The buthurtness makes me cry here. İ see mostly jaleousy not classification. Stop being jaleous. They are Orthodox Turks period and this is how they identify. They are from Seljuks too.So they are technically closer to us than Kipchak Turks and Karluk etc coz Gagauz are Oghuz. So dont repeat your BS just classify.

http://i.hizliresim.com/ALzr3p.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ALzr3p)

When exactly did they settle in the area where they live now?

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:08 PM
When exactly did they settle in the area where they live now?

Gagauz means in Turkic 'Celestial Oghuz, and there are different theories about their origin. The most widely accepted is they are from a Seljuk leader who lost a battle in Anatolia and then took his men and moved to Crimean by sea. Then moved west to Moldovia and settled there. Today Gagauz people live in Moldovia in eastern Europe and they have a federal republic.

Wadaad
04-05-2017, 12:11 PM
^^ Why not a bunch of Balkanoids who got culturually and linguistically "TURKIFIED"? (But not so much genetically...like Jamaican people are culturally Anglophone, or...Haitians Francophone, but not so much genetically.)

Kriptc06
04-05-2017, 12:12 PM
Gagauz people are genetically identical with the moldavians...they just speak a turkic language

Yeppers, I'm part gagauz and no Turk came in my DNA results, from Moldie BTW.

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:13 PM
^^ Why not a bunch of Balkanoids who got culturually and linguistically "TURKIFIED"? (But not so much genetically...like Jamaican people, or...Hawaiians)

This is what their historians even priests say that they are Seljuks descent. They arent Balkanians they are from Moldovia and this is eastern Europe. They couldnt be 'Turkified, because simply there wasnt a Turkish population or historical context to 'Turkify, people in middle of Moldavia.

Kriptc06
04-05-2017, 12:14 PM
The Gagauzes, although speaking a Turkic language, belong genetically to the Balkan populations and the Gagauz language represents a case of language replacement. Gagauz belong to Y-DNA haplogroups I2a (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M438) (23.6%), R1a (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a) (19.1%), G (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_(Y-DNA)) (13.5%), R1b (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b) (12.4%), E1b1b1a1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68) (11.1%). Haplogroups J2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M172) (5.6%) and Haplogroup N (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N_(Y-DNA)) (2.2%) are represented among Gagauzes at a usual frequency for many European and Balkan peoples. Finally, the phylogenetic analysis of Y-DNA situates Gagauzes most proximal to Macedonians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_(ethnic_group)), Serbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs) and other Balkan populations, resulting in a high genetic distance from the Turkish people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_people) and other Turkic peoples (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples).

OWDness.

Yeppers, nice wiki quote there.

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:15 PM
Yeppers, I'm part gagauz and no Turk came in my DNA results, from Moldie BTW.

LoL You are Bulgarian and like all Bulgarians you are obsessed with Gagauz and try to identify with them :) They live in middle of Moldovia again nothing to do with Bulgaria or Balkans.

Hadouken
04-05-2017, 12:17 PM
do you feel racially closer to the gagauz or to georgians armenians cypriots etc. siyendi ? I think you will say gagauz but maybe I am wrong

Kriptc06
04-05-2017, 12:17 PM
They migrated from bulgaria-macedonia in the times of the russo-turkish war, along with some Bulgarians themselves... Talks about both: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabian_Bulgarians

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:19 PM
do you feel racially closer to the gagauz or to georgians armenians cypriots etc. siyendi ? I think you will say gagauz but maybe I am wrong

This isnt question as you know. I am closer to even Kazakh than Armenians etc. Here ofc Gagauz.

Seya
04-05-2017, 12:23 PM
https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17796229_1286017054767669_9032222654501174461_n.jp g?oh=4022ddb59c68ed8d4637f13843be8427&oe=594EB038

Wrong
04-05-2017, 12:24 PM
https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17796229_1286017054767669_9032222654501174461_n.jp g?oh=4022ddb59c68ed8d4637f13843be8427&oe=594EB038
Lol you are right. They are even less Turkic than many Romanians.

Deniz
04-05-2017, 12:25 PM
:lol:

Kriptc06
04-05-2017, 12:25 PM
LoL You are Bulgarian and like all Bulgarians you are obsessed with Gagauz and try to identify with them :) They live in middle of Moldovia again nothing to do with Bulgaria or Balkans.

Are you telling me that my great-grandma last name Karamalak, isn't gagauz?

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:27 PM
'HULLOOOOOOGHHHHhhhhh they are not Turks they are Moldavs crrrrrgghhhhhhhhhh,... *-.:-/) :)
You trashed a innocent taxo thread for the beauty of the OP Turkic Oghuz girl. İts incredible the jaleousy. As Gagauz say, as we say they are Turks and from a very close group to us and nothing will change that

Deniz
04-05-2017, 12:27 PM
https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17796229_1286017054767669_9032222654501174461_n.jp g?oh=4022ddb59c68ed8d4637f13843be8427&oe=594EB038

You found.:)

Böri
04-05-2017, 12:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL3wzvU35m8


Bulgarians f*ck off, unstick. By living next to Gypsy you are becoming beggars and shameless like them. Just stand away. You are Slavs and Gagauz are Turks and nothing can change that.

Böri
04-05-2017, 01:02 PM
To understand Gagauz origins you must know Seljuk Turks always had Christian Turkic population. These Christian Turks even filled ranks of Byzantine army at battle Manzikert 1071 which changed the history of the world. Seljuk won because Christian Turks who fought for Byzantine shifted their side and joined their Seljuk kin.


Battle of Manzikert 1071

The Battle of Manzikert was fought between the Byzantine Empire and the Seljuk Turks on August 26, 1071 near Manzikert in modern Eastern Turkey.

After Seljuk conquests in Iraq, Syria and Armenia-Georgia in 1060's a peace treaty was signed between the Byzantines and the Seljuks in 1069. It also suited Sultan Alp Arslan as he considered the Fatimids of Egypt his main rivals. In February 1071, Romanus sent an embassy to Alp Arslan to renew the treaty of 1069. Sultan accepted and started the siege of Aleppo which belonged to Fatimids of Egypt. However, the offer to renew the peace treaty was a key element of Romanus' plan to distract the Sultan long enough to allow Romanus to lead a large army into Armenia and recover the lost fortresses before the Seljuks had time to respond.

Byzantines gathered a huge army and started to march East. The Eastern Roman army was accompanied by Frankish and Norman mercenaries, some Turkic (Uz and Pecheneg) and Bulgarian mercenaries, infantry under the duke of Antioch, a contingent of Georgian and Armenian troops and the Varangian/Viking Guard. Seljuk Turks following step by step the Byzantine movement moved tens of thousands horsemen from Aleppo area to Armenian possessions.

http://i.hizliresim.com/622AZ7.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/622AZ7)

August 23, Byzantines took back the fortress of Manzikert. Small Seljuk mounted units started some hit and run attacks. August 25, some of Romanos' Turkic mercenaries came into contact with their Seljuk kin and deserted. Romanos then rejected a Seljuk peace embassy. He wanted to settle the eastern question and the persistent Turkic incursions and settlements with a decisive military victory.

http://i.hizliresim.com/zAAPaR.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/zAAPaR)
Modern estimates put the Byzantine army figures around 70.000

August 26 the Byzantine army gathered itself into a proper battle formation and began to march on the Turkish positions, with the left wing under Bryennios, the right wing under Theodore Alyates, and the centre under the emperor. Alp Arslan also arrived from East with his troops.

The Seljuks were organized into a crescent formation about four kilometres away. Seljuk mounted archers attacked the Byzantines as they drew closer; the centre of their crescent continually moved backwards while the wings moved to surround the Byzantine troops.

http://i.hizliresim.com/DMMN5y.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/DMMN5y)

The Byzantines held off the arrow attacks and captured Arslan's camp by the end of the afternoon. However, the right and especially left wings, where the arrows did most of their damage started to weaken. Romanos was forced to order a withdrawal by the time night fell as he didn't succeed in engaging Seljuks to the decisive combat. However, the right wing misunderstood the order and ignored the emperor and marched back to the camp outside Manzikert, rather than covering the emperor's retreat. Also Dukas troops started to retreat faster. With the Byzantines thoroughly confused, the Seljuks seized the opportunity and attacked. Both Byzantine right and left flanks were routed and started to flee the battlefield. The remnants of the Byzantine centre, including the Emperor and the Varangian Guard, were encircled by the Seljuks and mostly exterminated.

http://i.hizliresim.com/oggDqo.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/oggDqo)

Romanos was injured and taken prisoner by the Seljuks. The survivors were the many who fled the field and were pursued throughout the night, but not beyond that; by dawn, the professional core of the Byzantine army had been destroyed whilst many of the peasant troops and levies fled.

The result of this disastrous defeat was, in simplest terms, the loss of the Eastern Roman Empire's Anatolian heartland. Sir Steven Runciman, in his "History of the Crusades", noted that "The Battle of Manzikert was the most decisive disaster in Byzantine history. The Byzantines themselves had no illusions about it. Again and again their historians refer to that dreadful day."




Manzikert is turning point of World history and now even Western historians admit it is cause of Crusades and turning point of Mena, Europe, Near East history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydVFqpbIIwA&t=354s

now you can understand the origins of Christian Oghuz Turks.

sulalp2016
04-29-2017, 09:42 PM
do you feel racially closer to the gagauz or to georgians armenians cypriots etc. siyendi ? I think you will say gagauz but maybe I am wrong
Hi my grandf..and grandmather borning makedonia and them surname is karamalak

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Hadouken
04-29-2017, 10:26 PM
Hi my grandf..and grandmather borning makedonia and them surname is karamalak

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thank

ЛыSSый
04-29-2017, 11:05 PM
Gagauz are Turks of Oghuz group like Turkish and Azeri and Turkmenians.

http://i.hizliresim.com/V0DWyy.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/V0DWyy)

yah, ok, but kgb has reported she's hungarian.

Böri
04-29-2017, 11:07 PM
yah, ok, but kgb has reported she's hungarian.

Gagauz have no own church and linked to Russian and strong Russification so probably they wont make it until 2100 because of KGB

ЛыSSый
04-29-2017, 11:11 PM
Gagauz have no own church and strong Russification so probably they wont make it until 2100 because of KGB

tnx for your farting, but can you show to us some proves she's gagauz?

Shah-Jehan
04-29-2017, 11:12 PM
Gagauz have no own church and linked to Russian and strong Russification so probably they wont make it until 2100 because of KGB

He's right, she's Magyar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/haagistvan/4664360669

Böri
04-29-2017, 11:14 PM
I took her pic from twitter account who promote Gagauz. I am innocent. :)

DarknessWin
04-29-2017, 11:18 PM
The buthurtness makes me cry here. İ see mostly jaleousy not classification. Stop being jaleous. They are Orthodox Turks period and this is how they identify. They are from Seljuks too.So they are technically closer to us than Kipchak Turks and Karluk etc coz Gagauz are Oghuz. So dont repeat your BS just classify.

http://i.hizliresim.com/ALzr3p.jpg (http://hizliresim.com/ALzr3p)

Then why they dont look like this :

http://i.imgur.com/rQvticd.jpg

Böri
04-29-2017, 11:24 PM
In that picture with the cross they are Gagauz :) no mistake. And ofc they are Turks, and not related with Levant Semite-shift Greeks who shamelessly try to relate with them,

ЛыSSый
04-29-2017, 11:27 PM
I took her pic from twitter account who promote Gagauz. I am innocent. :)

just stupied. it's common fault of your nation.

Böri
04-29-2017, 11:30 PM
Stfu alcoholic Slav. Beside that OP girl became irrelevant in the discussion of thread now. OK I owe the forum another, actual taxo thread with a Gagauz.

jatt
04-29-2017, 11:32 PM
where is the beautifull girl ??

ЛыSSый
04-29-2017, 11:35 PM
Stfu alcoholic Slav. it's prepayed servise. i feel pity to you: due to your terminal stupidity you can't come up some smater than proveless insult. even gypoturks from buljaria are smarter.

Полковник 95
04-29-2017, 11:36 PM
LOL @ these wannabe Turks.

Proto-Shaman
04-29-2017, 11:47 PM
how are they close to u if they are Christian Orthodox and genetically moldavians?
Did you ever heard of Christian Huns?