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Tooting Carmen
04-07-2017, 03:39 AM
They are the children, teachers and parents of Gimnasio Moderno, an expensive private school in Bogota.

http://www.gimnasiomoderno.edu.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Carrera-Web-1-446x200.jpghttp://losmejorescolegios.com/images/colegios/gimnasio-moderno/gimnasio-moderno-bogota-7a.jpghttp://www.gimnasiomoderno.edu.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PH1_0690.jpghttps://franciscovelasco2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/francisco-velasco-gimnasio-moderno-bogotc3a1-colombia-40-ac3b1os-de-egresados.jpghttp://gimnasiomoderno.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/foto_142.jpghttp://gimnasiomoderno.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1Comunion2012-02.pnghttp://www.gimnasiomoderno.edu.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/semestralizacion1.pnghttp://static.iris.net.co/jetset/upload/images//2014/3/19/102538_114853_1.jpghttp://static.iris.net.co/jetset/upload/images//2014/3/19/102537_114853_1.jpghttp://static.iris.net.co/jetset/upload/images//2014/3/19/102489_92710_1.jpghttp://gimnasiomoderno.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/foto_610.jpg

Sikeliot
04-07-2017, 03:42 AM
They look Spanish but minor mixture still shows.

Tooting Carmen
04-07-2017, 03:45 AM
They look Spanish but minor mixture still shows.

Really? A lot of them look heavily Amerindian-influenced, such as the boy on the right:
http://static.iris.net.co/jetset/upload/images//2014/3/19/102489_92710_1.jpg

Though granted, there are more Whites and quasi-Whites than would be true further down the social spectrum (but I still very much maintain that the race-class link in Colombia is nowhere near as strong as some claim).

alnortedelsur
04-07-2017, 04:00 AM
Judging by the pictures where many people can be seen, I would say that at least 70-75% of them are into the white/Euro-mestizo range, with the remaining 25-30% being shared by balanced mestizos, indo-mestizos, triracials, and very very few isolated cases of some few griffes here and there (maybe 1%).

Argentano
04-07-2017, 04:01 AM
Is cundimarca similar to Medellin? In medellin genetic studies most people is castizo/harnizo/mestizo

Tooting Carmen
04-07-2017, 04:02 AM
Judging by the pictures where many people can be seen, I would say that at least 70-75% of them are into the white/Euro-mestizo range, with the remaining 25-30% being shared by balanced mestizos, indo-mestizos, triracials, and very very few isolated cases of some few griffes here and there (maybe 1%).

Apart from Colombia, where do they fit best? My inclination would be Venezuela, Panama and to a somewhat lesser extent Mexico and Ecuador.

Tooting Carmen
04-07-2017, 04:03 AM
Is cundimarca similar to Medellin? In medellin genetic studies most people is castizo/harnizo/mestizo

Medellin according to legend is whiter than Cundinamarca, but having visited both I don't think there is much difference.

alnortedelsur
04-07-2017, 04:21 AM
Apart from Colombia, where do they fit best? My inclination would be Venezuela, Panama and to a somewhat lesser extent Mexico and Ecuador.

Yes, most of them could pass for middle to upper class Venezuelans.

In Venezuela something curious happens:

You would find more full Euros and near whites among the Venezuelan middle class (children/grand children of recent European immigrants) than in the upper class, but also some more balanced mestizos, triracials, and few griffes here and there than in the upper class.

The Venezuelan upper class I think is more uniformly Euro-mestizo (harnizos/castizos), with less balanced mestizos and triracials than the middle class, but also with less people in the 85-100% Euro range than the Venezuelan middle class, which has more extremes compared to the Venezuelan upper class.

I think that happens because many European immigrants in Venezuela came poor, and managed to ascend into being middle class through hard work, and only few of them getting rich, while the Venezuelan upper class is made up with mostly Euro descent Venezuelans, who for being many generations living in Venezuela, have had more chances to get some more non-Euro admixture (more Amerindian than black) than the white middle class people of recent Euro background. But also, the middle class has absorbed some balanced mestizos and triracials, who progressed in some way or another into being middle class, while it has been impossible for them to get that high as being upper class.

At least that's my impression.

Tooting Carmen
04-19-2017, 12:22 AM
bump

Tooting Carmen
05-26-2017, 04:36 PM
More photos:
http://losmejorescolegios.com/images/colegios/gimnasio-moderno/gimnasio-moderno-bogota-10a.jpghttps://gimnasiomoderno.edu.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PH1_0690.jpghttp://bogotaesnuestra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012_03_16_98moderno011.jpghttps://gimnasiomoderno.edu.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/b_comunion-241x179.jpghttp://losmejorescolegios.com/images/colegios/gimnasio-moderno/gimnasio-moderno-bogota-2a.jpg

Odin
06-16-2017, 03:11 PM
Mainly castizos, harnizos, mestizos, triracials and few griffes. They can pass in Central America.

Antimage
06-16-2017, 03:11 PM
Mexico

Myapologies
06-16-2017, 03:18 PM
European: 50-100% - Mostly Spanish
African: 0-25%
Native: 0-25%

Estimated average:

75% European +-10%
12,5% African +-5%
12,5% Native +- 5%