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Sikeliot
04-07-2017, 06:32 PM
MDLP K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.05
2 West_Med 17.32
3 West_Asian 13.84
4 Atlantic 11.19
5 Red_Sea 7.35
6 Baltic 5.79
7 Eastern_Euro 4.79
8 North_Sea 4.33
9 Southeast_Asian 0.66
10 Northeast_African 0.48
11 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jewish 5.66
2 Algerian_Jewish 6.16
3 Italian_Jewish 6.18
4 South_Italian 7.02
5 East_Sicilian 8.25
6 Tunisian_Jewish 8.42
7 Ashkenazi 8.5
8 Central_Greek 8.52
9 Cyprian 9.04
10 West_Sicilian 10.6
11 Libyan_Jewish 11.19
12 Italian_Abruzzo 11.47
13 Greek 12.59
14 Lebanese_Muslim 13.65
15 Greek_Thessaly 14.38
16 Syrian 14.62
17 Samaritan 15.38
18 Tuscan 16.74
19 Lebanese_Christian 17.01
20 Jordanian 17.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Greek + 44.8% Samaritan @ 2.93
2 59.1% Cyprian + 40.9% Greek @ 3.33
3 80.8% Cyprian + 19.2% Southwest_French @ 3.48
4 54.6% Cyprian + 45.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.51
5 57.9% Greek + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.59
6 73.5% Cyprian + 26.5% North_Italian @ 3.73
7 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.81
8 80.7% Cyprian + 19.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.83
9 66.6% Cyprian + 33.4% Tuscan @ 3.86
10 79.4% Cyprian + 20.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.87
11 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.92
12 79.4% Cyprian + 20.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.92
13 78.7% Cyprian + 21.3% Portuguese @ 3.93
14 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.96
15 78.6% Cyprian + 21.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.97
16 79.2% Cyprian + 20.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.98
17 80.6% Cyprian + 19.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4
18 79.8% Cyprian + 20.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.04
19 80.4% Cyprian + 19.6% Austrian @ 4.09
20 76.5% Cyprian + 23.5% Serbian @ 4.11


MDLP K23:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.72
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.29
3 Near_East 13.44
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.91
5 North_African 7.21
6 South_Central_Asian 6.09
7 South_East_Asian 2.29
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.03


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_East @ 4.515862
2 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 5.176376
3 Cretan @ 5.252841
4 French_Jew @ 5.289880
5 Sicilian_Agrigento @ 5.774903
6 Sicilian_Siracusa @ 5.866509
7 Turk_Jew @ 6.112687
8 Sicilian_West @ 6.191571
9 Italian_Jew @ 6.387537
10 Sephardic_Jew @ 6.451558
11 Romanian_Jew @ 6.588219
12 Maltese @ 6.892096
13 Sicilian_Trapani @ 7.321881
14 Ashkenazi @ 7.389619
15 Sicilian_Center @ 7.675289
16 Italian_South @ 8.072006
17 Greek_Smyrna @ 8.371055
18 Greek_Islands @ 8.967804
19 Greek_Phokaia @ 9.217427
20 Moroccan_Jew @ 9.342102

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi_Jew +50% Turk_Jew @ 3.305776


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Jew +25% Italian_North +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.498681


Dodecad K12:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.26
2 Atlantic_Med 25.75
3 Southwest_Asian 15.11
4 North_European 11.58
5 Gedrosia 6.96
6 Northwest_African 4.5
7 East_Asian 0.83
8 Sub_Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.39
2 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 5.59
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.75
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 5.94
5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 6.19
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 8.83
7 Greek (Dodecad) 10.86
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.27
9 Cypriots (Behar) 15.31
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.36
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.3
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.39
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.09
14 Lebanese (Behar) 18.31
15 Turks (Behar) 20.4
16 Syrians (Behar) 20.92
17 Druze (HGDP) 21.78
18 Jordanians (Behar) 22.02
19 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.36
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 23.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 40% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.99
2 87.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 12.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.17
3 90.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
4 90.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.28
5 90.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
6 92.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 7.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.31
7 90.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.31
8 91.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.33
9 91% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.35
10 90.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.37
11 92.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 7.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.37
12 92.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 7.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
13 91.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.39
14 90.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.4
15 81.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 18.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.41
16 88.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.42
17 90.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.42
18 80.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 19.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.43
19 51.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 48.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.53
20 93.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 6.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.56


HarappaWorld:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.91
2 Mediterranean 24.35
3 SW-Asian 15.62
4 NE-Euro 14.4
5 Baloch 7.68
6 NE-Asian 0.75
7 Beringian 0.47
8 W-African 0.43
9 E-African 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 2.48
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.72
3 sephardic-jew (behar) 5.75
4 morocco-jew (behar) 8.33
5 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.29
6 tuscan (1000genomes) 14.86
7 cypriot (behar) 14.99
8 tuscan (hgdp) 15.5
9 tuscan (hapmap) 16.17
10 lebanese (behar) 17.78
11 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.5
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.7
13 turk (behar) 20.05
14 lebanese-muslim (haber) 20.34
15 syrian (behar) 20.38
16 turkish (harappa) 20.73
17 palestinian (harappa) 20.81
18 jordanian (behar) 21.24
19 armenian (harappa) 21.49
20 lebanese-christian (haber) 22.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.4% lebanese-christian (haber) + 48.6% italian (hgdp) @ 1.72
2 89.5% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 10.5% cypriot (behar) @ 1.77
3 93.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6.2% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.85
4 94.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.9% assyrian (harappa) @ 1.86
5 77% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 23% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.88
6 94.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.7% iranian-jew (behar) @ 1.88
7 94.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 1.9
8 94% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6% georgia-jew (behar) @ 1.91
9 94.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 1.91
10 93.4% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6.6% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 1.92
11 93.7% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6.3% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 1.96
12 94.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.7% samaritian (behar) @ 1.99
13 94.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 5.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 2.02
14 92.5% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 7.5% lebanese (behar) @ 2.02
15 54.5% tuscan (1000genomes) + 45.5% lebanese (behar) @ 2.03
16 95.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 4.9% armenian (behar) @ 2.04
17 95.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 4.8% druze (hgdp) @ 2.05
18 80.7% sephardic-jew (behar) + 19.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 2.06
19 93.5% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.06
20 93.7% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 6.3% palestinian (harappa) @ 2.06


PuntDNA-L:

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 39.61
2 Caucasus_HG 26.86
3 Near_East 14.64
4 European_HG 14.05
5 East_Asian 2.52
6 Sub-Saharan 0.94
7 Siberian 0.67
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Oceanian 0.23
10 South_African_HG 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian_East 3.8
2 Ashkenazi_Jew 4.13
3 Sicilian_West 5.21
4 Moroccan_Jew 9.06
5 Turkish_Jew 9.1
6 Greek 11.28
7 Tuscan 11.63
8 Cypriot 11.94
9 Turkish_Aydin 12.63
10 Libyan_Jew 12.87
11 Albanian 13
12 Lebanese 14.02
13 Tunisian_Jew 14.13
14 Turkish 16.46
15 Turkish_Kayseri 16.77
16 Druze 16.97
17 Assyrian 17.35
18 Syrian 17.36
19 Bulgarian 17.74
20 Palestinian 18.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.5% Sicilian_East + 3.5% Japanese @ 2.25
2 96.5% Sicilian_East + 3.5% Korean @ 2.25
3 96.7% Sicilian_East + 3.3% Han_Chinese @ 2.26
4 96.3% Sicilian_East + 3.7% Mongolian @ 2.28
5 96.6% Sicilian_East + 3.4% Cambodian @ 2.3
6 96.9% Sicilian_East + 3.1% Vietnamese @ 2.31
7 97.2% Sicilian_East + 2.8% Ami @ 2.38
8 78.2% Sicilian_West + 21.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.4
9 94.1% Sicilian_East + 5.9% Hazara @ 2.51
10 90.5% Ashkenazi_Jew + 9.5% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.63
11 93.4% Sicilian_East + 6.6% Turkmen @ 2.68
12 94.6% Ashkenazi_Jew + 5.4% Saudi @ 2.7
13 92.7% Sicilian_East + 7.3% Uzbek @ 2.71
14 78.5% Sicilian_West + 21.5% Turkish @ 2.71
15 88.4% Ashkenazi_Jew + 11.6% Egyptian @ 2.72
16 83.8% Sicilian_West + 16.2% Georgian_Jew @ 2.72
17 86.9% Ashkenazi_Jew + 13.1% BedouinA @ 2.73
18 96.7% Ashkenazi_Jew + 3.3% BedouinB @ 2.76
19 79.5% Sicilian_West + 20.5% Assyrian @ 2.76
20 82.1% Sicilian_West + 17.9% Iranian_Jew @ 2.79


Eurasia K9:

# Population Percent
1 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 29.91
2 SW_Asian 22.52
3 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 20.95
4 WHG 19.56
5 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 4.94
6 Siberian_E_Asian 0.78
7 W_African 0.72
8 Ancestral_South_Indian 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 3.9
2 Maltese 4.73
3 Greek 8.18
4 Albanian 10.56
5 Tuscan 11.08
6 Cypriot 12.89
7 Turkish 13.79
8 Bulgarian 16.67
9 Lebanese 17.9
10 Druze 18.92
11 Syrian 19.86
12 Armenian 20.11
13 Kumyk 20.16
14 Jordanian 20.37
15 Adygei 20.53
16 Georgian_Jew 21.48
17 Spanish 21.66
18 Azeri 21.94
19 Iraqi_Jew 22.2
20 Chechen 22.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Albanian + 35.7% Druze @ 0.96
2 68.7% Greek + 31.3% Lebanese @ 0.97
3 56.4% Cypriot + 43.6% Bulgarian @ 1.11
4 67.9% Albanian + 32.1% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.18
5 70% Greek + 30% Druze @ 1.26
6 67.4% Cypriot + 32.6% French @ 1.57
7 71.7% Greek + 28.3% Jordanian @ 1.62
8 63.1% Albanian + 36.9% Lebanese @ 1.64
9 73.4% Greek + 26.6% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.66
10 71.2% Greek + 28.8% Syrian @ 1.78
11 66.9% Tuscan + 33.1% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.81
12 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Druze @ 1.82
13 86.1% Sicilian + 13.9% Georgian_Jew @ 1.82
14 71.3% Cypriot + 28.7% English @ 1.83
15 85% Maltese + 15% Azeri_Dagestan @ 1.87
16 61.6% Greek + 38.4% Cypriot @ 1.94
17 82.6% Maltese + 17.4% Adygei @ 1.94
18 69.1% Cypriot + 30.9% Hungarian @ 1.95
19 82.4% Maltese + 17.6% Kumyk @ 1.98
20 66.6% Cypriot + 33.4% Croatian @ 1.99


Near East Neolithic K13:

# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 31.97
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.59
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 17.49
4 NATUFIAN 15.91
5 SHG_WHG 5.11
6 EHG 3.58
7 SE_ASIAN 1.91
8 SIBERIAN 1.1
9 SUB_SAHARAN 0.81
10 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.39
11 PAPUAN 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 5.52
2 Jew_Ashkenazi 5.87
3 Italian_South 7.78
4 Jew_Moroccan 8.2
5 Greek 8.97
6 Cypriot 10.18
7 Turkish_Istanbul 10.5
8 Turkish 10.77
9 Albanian 11.96
10 Turkish_Balekesir 13.26
11 Turkish_Adana 13.33
12 Turkish_Kayseri 13.77
13 Turkish_Aydin 14
14 Jew_Tunisian 14.16
15 Jew_Libyan 14.64
16 Lebanese 16.36
17 Bulgarian 16.81
18 Turkish_Trabzon 16.93
19 Armenian 18.45
20 Druze 18.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Greek + 46.6% Cypriot @ 2.56
2 81% Sicilian + 19% Assyrian @ 2.59
3 92.3% Sicilian + 7.7% Iran_ChL @ 2.6
4 77.6% Sicilian + 22.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.65
5 54.3% Cypriot + 45.7% Albanian @ 2.65
6 81.6% Sicilian + 18.4% Jew_Iranian @ 2.83
7 94.8% Sicilian + 5.2% Iran_LN @ 2.84
8 94.8% Sicilian + 5.2% Iran_N @ 2.84
9 74% Sicilian + 26% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.85
10 81.2% Sicilian + 18.8% Jew_iraqi @ 2.85
11 79.5% Sicilian + 20.5% Armenian @ 2.87
12 88% Jew_Ashkenazi + 12% Armenia_ChL @ 2.91
13 90.3% Sicilian + 9.7% Iran_recent @ 2.93
14 86.1% Sicilian + 13.9% Kurd_C @ 2.97
15 63% Cypriot + 37% Bulgarian @ 3.04
16 66.9% Turkish_Adana + 33.1% Sardinian @ 3.05
17 85.3% Sicilian + 14.7% Iranian_Lori @ 3.12
18 88.4% Jew_Ashkenazi + 11.6% Armenia_MLBA @ 3.16
19 68.2% Sicilian + 31.8% Cypriot @ 3.17
20 74.3% Sicilian + 25.7% Turkish_Adana @ 3.22

jingorex
04-07-2017, 06:38 PM
Turkish or Greek.

Sikeliot
04-07-2017, 06:52 PM
Turkish or Greek.

What is your basis for this?

jingorex
04-07-2017, 06:57 PM
What is your basis for this?

occam's razor

MDLP K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.05
2 West_Med 17.32

Sikeliot
04-07-2017, 07:00 PM
occam's razor

MDLP K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.05
2 West_Med 17.32

That ratio is not consistent with most (mainland) Greeks or Turks.

jingorex
04-07-2017, 07:01 PM
That ratio is not consistent with most (mainland) Greeks or Turks.


well i am a moron, so...

was worth a guess.

MysteriousWays
04-07-2017, 07:25 PM
I'm going with cretan.

Sikeliot
04-07-2017, 07:36 PM
I'm going with cretan.

I am not giving the answer yet but I'll ask this. They score Sicily first on almost all calculators, so what made you not guess that?

Voskos
04-07-2017, 08:25 PM
Cretan or Aegean?

MysteriousWays
04-07-2017, 11:56 PM
My impression is this admixture is a bit atypical for Sicily in terms of Baltic number (bit high). East euro may also be high. I think West Asia is low for ashkenazi.

Sikeliot
04-08-2017, 01:10 AM
Cretan or Aegean?


My impression is this admixture is a bit atypical for Sicily in terms of Baltic number (bit high). East euro may also be high. I think West Asia is low for ashkenazi.


Answer: southern Italian. I cannot tell from where because their surname is widespread, but it would have to be Campania, Calabria, or Sicily. Based on its distribution they may be Campanian, though they come up a close match to a Sicilian person I know on "One to many" matches.

What is interesting is they're closer to Lebanese than to Thessalian Greeks.